Hello I'm stuck on one of my Love's, Robert Love born in 1786 in Ireland. Robert married Deborah Semans in Nov 25, 1810. Robert and Deborah had 7 seven children: David, James, Elizabeth, Frances, Simon, William, and Ellen. I have know idea who David's parents are. Deborah's parents are Simon Semans and Frances Sina McKay. Deborah was born Oct 1 1794. Robert died 1847 in Wahington Twp, Miami Co, IN and his wife died Feb 1871 in Kosciusko Co., IN. If any of this information looks familiar please let me know. Thank you Jill mailto:kcccs1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Here's a suggestion that might work for some. When I get a check back from a County Clerk or a Historical Society or Library because they can't find what I asked for, I send that amount to Rootsweb cooperative. I figger it is already spent, it isn't a big chunk of money and Brian and Karen Leverich could put it to good use. When I say "not a big chunk of money", it is usually $5 to $10. They seem happy to get it. I do that a couple of times a year. I am very grateful for Rootsweb and for the Seaman Listers. I have been on about 6 lists in the past, and ya'll are most gracious in your sharing of information. Kudos to you all. Marilyn ---- Let us then be up and doing With a will for any fate. Still achieving, still pursuing, Learn to labor, and to wait. ---- It's by Longfellow. He must have been a genealogist.

When we launched RootsWeb, we assumed that our users would prefer to support us as much as they were able, in exchange for a site open to all, without banners plastered all over everything and without having resources locked up (as is done at other genealogy sites), available only for fees on the order of $60 per year. Instead, people can support RootsWeb for as little as $12 per year. We thus hoped that a reasonable fraction of our users, perhaps half of them, would support us in some way. And because we expected support from the community, we made promises to projects like USGenWeb that we would freely host them for the good of the Internet genealogy community. We have no intention of reneging on those early promises, but it has been difficult, because the community support we anticipated has not been there. Although people use the site like crazy, fewer than 7% of our users have chipped in to keep things going. The other 93%? Perhaps they're busy, or they're broke, or they won't pay unless they have to, or they don't think RootsWeb is useful. Who knows? But it means that RootsWeb has run at a cash flow loss. In simple terms, Karen Isaacson and Brian Leverich have donated not only their time as system administrators but a substantial part of their personal resources to provide the genealogical community with RootsWeb. The rest of RootsWeb's staff have also made substantial contributions. Because RootsWeb's costs exceed its income, we can't provide all the genealogical facilities we'd like to support. These could include online searchable databases of pension records, census indexes, vital records, or countless other valuable genealogical services that we could easily provide -- if only we could afford the staff to support them. And, ultimately, RootsWeb can't even continue to exist if we don't bring our costs and revenues into balance, something we want to have under control before the transition to non-profit status (as opposed to losing money status) is completed. We are doing what we can to remedy the situation. For instance, we are selling banner advertisements where we can. However, this alone will never provide enough revenue to cover the costs of the unbannered volunteer projects which consume most of RootsWeb's resources yet by their very nature produce no direct revenue, even as they provide invaluable content to the genealogical community. The new communities, from their inception, will be fully supported by advertising. They will be paying their own way. We can shift some of the costs of maintaining the Web, mailing list, GenConnect, and search engine servers onto the new communities, so that the new communities will subsidize a genealogical community that hasn't been supporting itself. Although we have been disappointed in the amount of financial support of the genealogical community, we would like to express our deep gratitude to the writer of the letter above and the other 7% of our users who have helped make RootsWeb available to the whole community. Without their support and encouragement, there would be no RootsWeb. If you would like to join the folks who are making RootsWeb possible and thus help us bring new genealogical data online, freely available to all, please visit: <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> or send e-mail to: RW-info@rootsweb.com Carolyn Mussina Seaman Kinderhook, NY <gregseaman@berk.com>

If you need to find maps of about any description, go here. There's a bunch of other good info there too. http://www.homeworkcentral.com/ Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

The following letter dated December 24, 1835 was written in New York by John F. Seaman to his brother Israel Seaman in St. Catherines, Canada. Dear Brother, We received a letter from home dated 6th Dec. and were very glad to hear that they were all well and that you arrived safe at your place of destination. After leavng you at High Bridge we proceeded t te canal and got on board a boat about dark. We passed through Utica the afternoon of next day and arrived at Schenectady Friday morning about three oclock. We took the railroad at 6 for Albany and arrived there in a short time. we stayed in Albany until 4 oclock in the afternoon when we went on board the Robert L. Steven for New York. We arrived at NY about 4 oclock on Saturday morning and found them all well there. Father aand I went around considerable in search of a situation. I had several chances of getting in. Isaac Simonson wished to get some one in his grocery. E & S Willetts also made me an offer in their crockery store, but they would nly board me the first year and the next year give me two hundred dollars and board myself which I thought would not do for me. Elbert Jackson also made me an offer of 8 dollars per month this winter, and if suited more in the spring which I should have accepted but his business did not suit. He kees a liquor store and my friends told me it was not in a very good neighborhood. I accordingly accepted the offer ofBlake and Frost to give me board until Spring and then if I did not like he would assist e in getting a situation. They are manufacturers and dealers in Tusdan and straw hats. They are not doing much business at this season of the year, their business comes in the spring.Father went up on the L.I. on Monday and I on Friday after. On Thursday I went to Hester St. meeting and saw John G. Seaman married to Ann R. Wall of this city. I went up with Zebulon's folks, stopped at Noah's and stayed all night found them well. M.J. had a son not many weeks old. Next morning I went to Jerusalem, called at Braddock's none of them knew me. Went to Uncle Williams' the boys wer4e out to work. I went to Father to South in a wagon, called at several places by the way. We went down by Solomon Jackson. We called at the ld place, went in the mill. You cannot think how different everthing appeared on L.I. from what it used to, everything looked so small and the distances so short. The mill looked hardly half as large as it formerly did. They are altering it into a grist mill. Henry Mullineau and John Southard were at work on it. They are going to have the two run of stones in it. They will not get it in operation befor Spring. I suppose you know that Aksa (?) James owns it now. The saw mill does no business of any consequence. The canal was dry. We did not go to the house. We then went to Samuel's store. We thought William was in Brooklyn but he is in partnership with Samuel and attends a store. We eat dinner at John Althouse and went over to te brick house to see the great house which David Jones is building. It stands back from the turnpike perhaps forty yrods. It is fifty six feet square and I believe forty feet posts. It makes a very good appearance. They are clearing off the swamp and they have made a dam from Thomas Jones land all across to the Brick house by the side of the turnpike for a trout pond. It has cost them a great deal. We than came back and called at Thos. Whitson. The man there has also dug a small trout pond. Called at Robert Powell just at dark and stayed a short time and then went to Jerusalem. Elbert & Townsend have grown very much. E is about as tall as I & T is a little taller and looks very much as David used to. The folks have many of them altered considerably, but all looked natural. Eleanor is in very poor health. Had I gone up unexpectedly not one in the neighborhood whould have known me. On first day I went to meeting at Jerusa. The meeting is small. Whitehead spoke a little. John Powell and Elbert Verity went to Uncle W. and stayed the afternon. The next day I went around some and in the afternoon I called at Willetts to see Aunt Amy. She looks very natural but is not so fleshy as she used to be and is ... very much. I stayed at Robert O. that night and the next morning started with R. Waters for NY. I only staid three days in the neighborhood. On Wednesday night we received a letter from home. Mother wrote that Bradley had run away and affairs were in a very bad state and wished father to return at once. He accordingly started Thursday night and arrived home the monday after. He found his affairs in great confusion. It seems they met that day to sell the hay but the sale was put to fathers return by the request of mother. They met again afterwards but oweing to some blunder it was not effected. Sarah wrote that father stated to them the agreement and they were in hopes it would not trouble them. At any rate father will not allow anything to be taken off the place that he can hold. I suppose that you have heard from home since I have though. Almy has not been up to L.I. yet she intends to go after New Years. On Wednesay night last the 16th inst. we had one of the greatest fires that ever happened in this city. About 30 or 40 acres in the lower and most business part of the city is now covered with a mass of burning ruins and property to the amount of 15 million of dollars has been destroyed. I suppose you see the papers if so they will contain all the particulars. Many of the insurance offices are broken. The fire commenced at about 9 oclock on Wednesday and was not got under control until Thursday afternon. Mother wrote tha you had started for Oswego to take lake and we thought that you must have been on the lake at the time of the heavy gale and we were very uneasy about you until we heard from you. John Gilbert Seaman was married to JAne Althaus since I was up there. We have had some very cold weather, but it is now quite moderate, no snow of any consequence. I wrote home a few days ago. Pray write soon. I am yours & c John F. Seaman Israel Seaman Direct your letter to 214 Pearl St. Care of Blake and Frost More next time. Would any one know whether 214 Pearl street in NY City still exists?

I see 3 Obediah Seamans who were 4th generation. All were born on Long Island it appears. One was born in 1736, one has no birth date who was the son of Martha Valentine and Samuel3 Seaman. The one who was born in 1729 was the son of Thomas and Philadelphia Titus. Is there any more information on any of these Obediahs? I am trying to identify the Obediah Seaman who appears to have been a partner of Willets Seaman in New Jersey, because he was a co-plaintiff in 1772 (Court of Common Pleas.) Willets was 18 when his father died about 1759, leaving him and David his Blacksmith shop and tools. Question would be whether Willets was in business with a younger cousin or an older one. I haven't nailed down Willets' wife Mary's last name either. Don't know if he married in Long Island or in NJ. He had one son (David of WV) born in NJ in 1768. Usually people stayed home until they married, but with no father he may have gone out "to seek his fortune" before. Did his mother Mary Willets move in with one of the kids after the farm was sold? M Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; McCoy of Greene County,PA; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ, WV, KY, and "ye Westward". New Patriot to be added soon to the DAR roll: Willets Seaman of NJ, descendant of Capt. John Seaman of Hempstead, Long Island, NY ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

In a message dated 99-05-01 17:17:23 EDT, you write: << Am I reading this Fraud site correctly? It appears that Seaman lines traced by this Gustave Anjou could be unsupported by traceable citations. Has anyone ever quoted him? I never heard of him before, but that means nothing. >>Well I can say I haven't used the information....Still haven't got Sylvanus Seaman out of Illinois.... Mary

Is anyone familiar with these SEAMANs??? All b circa 1776-1810 in NY/NJ area. Joshua m Susan MILLS David m Sally LAZZARA Catherine m ? SANTHENSTALL John m Susan COLE Stephen m Jane MILLS Isaac m Sarah CRANE William m Sarah McWILLIAMS Alfred m Ann McWILLIAMS Henry m Mary WELCH All are members of the same family. Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a message from a new SEAMAN researcher. I am out of the action for a while repairing my computer and database so can someone else help him along? -----Original Message----- From: KeithS39@aol.com <KeithS39@aol.com> To: jmrubins@napanet.net <jmrubins@napanet.net> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 9:59 PM Subject: Seaman >My grandfather was Forest Whitney VanSise (born 8/29/1885 in New York), son >of Frederick S. VanSise and Antoinette Seaman (daughter of John Jackson >Seaman.). I know that the Seaman family have been on Long Island in the >general area of Hempstead, Oyster Bay, Jerusalem since early colonial times. >I'm trying to trace the history but it is difficult from the Chicago area. > >Can you suggest sources, on-line databases, etc. > >Thanks >Keith Shafer -- KeithS39@aol.com >

Good morning Listers: I received Micah Seaman's record yesterday, and talk about an adventurous career! The abstract I read did not cover the whole story. That boy was either very lucky or he was born under a bad star. The army kept drafting him for short periods to march him off here or there and he'd get back home and they'd do it again. Micah was in a tent with others, apparently, when a cannon ball hit it and killed the others, but he escaped with a wound to his arm. From the abstract I thought the worst--loss of arm--but no! He went back home to NJ. The army came and got him again and he suffered a bayonet wound to his side (I thought blood and guts) but the record says he suffered a flesh wound. And went back home to Warren county NJ. (His sojourn in Morris County was long enough to get into court, though.) This is like reading a "who-dunit" and finding the last page gone just as the detective is pointing to the murderer. The archives didn't send the last page, assuming there is one. I'll write again. Meanwhile... Has anyone else got Micah's papers from the archives? It's great reading, and much more interesting than the abstracted version. Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ, WV, KY, and "ye Westward". New Patriot to be added soon to the DAR roll: Willets Seaman of NJ, descendant of Capt. John Seaman of Hempstead, Long Island, NY ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Anyone familiar with a Joshua or John SEAMAN who leased land on Ellis Island just before the government took it over? === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Eddleman Jr [mailto:JOEEDDLEMAN@charleston.net] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 4:58 PM To: SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Seamna letter Some time ago I posted a few Seaman letters in my possession which I thought might be of interest to Seaman researchers. Due to family commitments I was unable to publish many. I will try to continue to post additional letters, time permitting, which might be helpful to members of this forum. By letter dated April 1, 1836 from Jerusalem from Almy J. Seaman (born 3/19/1819 and daughter of Benjamin Seaman and Jane Rhinehart} to her sister Sarah Seaman she writes: You wished me to write particulars of every one and I will now comply with your request. The people are generally well. William Jones is in partnership with Samuel in the store. Samuel is going to build a house and barn this summer. Israel is going to live in part of his father's house and work the farm. Mary Powell has gone to Jerico to teach school she gets thirty dollars a quarter. Sally Garner is very much afflicted. She has a lump in her breast which people think will prove to be the Rose Cancer it is very much swelled and her arm and hand also. The doctor does not say it is cancer but he says it will be something very serious. She is not able to sit up all day.. At times she seems very low spirited. She often says if I am taken away what will become of my poor children? John Birdsall is going to move in the house with her. I suppose you have seen an account of the death of Benjamin Birdsall at Brooklyn in the Star. He had the pleurisy and was sick only a week. He was brough up and buried in the meeting house yard. Hewlett Smith and Nancy Post were married about two months ago. I have been all around the south but I have not time to tell the places. I have not seen Lawyer Jones house yet but I intend to go and see it as soon as the weather gets a little warmer. He and his family are going to board at Thomas Jones's through the summer. Mary Jones has got a new beau his name is Smith. He is a Navy Officer and said to be very rich. People think they will be married soon. Mary Wigam and her two daughters have been at Zebulon's all winter. They are going to New York the first of next month.Elizabeth is very proud. She has not visited any of the neighbors. I think they will all be glad when her Ladyship leaves the place. Our Albums are going around south but they get along slowly. Noah has moved in part of Deborah Seaman's house.He and Mary Jane are going to Mass. the last of May or the first of June and Noah talks of going from there to our house and if he does I think I shall go with him. Mary Jane sends her love to you all. She says she would like to go with Noah out there but thinks she is not able to travel so far with her child. Littgle Edgar grows very much and Mary often inquires about Mary Jane and Martha Ann.Aunt Phebe is now at Noah's. She has been up two weeks but is going down in a few days. Uncle William and Aunt Almy (Amy?) have just started for Samuel Jones's at East-Woods. He is very sick and they do not think he will live long. I shall go to Noah's tomorrow and see what he saids about going to the West. Tell father he must be sure and have a stoop built and you may have the room finished as you are a mind to. April 17th I am now at Noah's. He saids he cannot tell certain whether he will go to the west or not but I think he will. I wish you would write immediately on receiving this and let me know what you all think of my going to Tyringham. The expense will not be a great deal more and I should like it very much to go but if mother thinks I had better not I will try to find out if there is any friends going up to yearly meeting. Aunt Phebe sends her love to you all. She saids she is going to write by the merchants when they come down. I conclude with love to you all. Sarah Seaman New York Tuesday evening April 26, 1836 Dear Sister, suppose you are by this time expecting a letter from us. Should we take example from you? We should not write for a month to come. I am very glad to inform you of our good health. I have not much news to write to you. We are very busy in the store now. I have been expecting to see some of the merchants from that neighborhood, but have seen none yet. I sold a bill of Bonnets the othe day to go to Syracuse. I thought of delaying writing to you until I had made some arrangements with my employers, but as Almy has written I thought I would write now. I suppose she will scold because I have put it off as long as I have. I do not know yet what they will allow me through the the summer. I shall however do the best I can and shall write again before long. The last letter I received from Israel was dated 20th March. His health was then good and had been through the winter. He stated he had received no letter from home since he wrote me before. You wished to know the price of Tuscan Bonnets. The braids are very high. I could not send any kind of a descent Bonnet short of 2.50 or 3.00. I think I had better send some straws such as and Almy's. I suppose I can get them at cost. A new shape has come out this spring called the Grecian Cottage. They are something like the straight cottage except that the fr.... from the crown foll (?) up. I think it is very.... it will be warn a great deal. James family are well. They are very kind to me. The small pox is somewhat prevalent in the city. Isaac Sm... just recovered from it and I heard his brother.... a few days ago. They thought I had better be vaccinated which I accordingly was yesterday morning... know as it was of any use. I wrote you that John... was in the grocery. I do not know what he..... I also wrote you that Samuel Seaman was coming here in the Spring but I believe he has been here for eighteen months past. I heard since Almy wrote that Mary Jones was married. I suppose you thought that from the proceeds of the butter we should have money enough to last us for a great while but I have been very obliged to get so many clothes that is is nearly all gone. And besided I have many other little expenses which it is impossible to avoid. I hope however I have enough to last without spending much more in some time. If you can spare a little before Almy goes home I should be very glad. I do not like to send for money so soon for I fear you will think I have been extravagent. I hope however to be able to repay it at some future day and I shall get along with as little as possible. I suppose you are ploughing by this time as we used to begin about the first of April. The weather here has been rather cold, it has been quite warm today and the streets are getting quite dusty. I am now boarding in Cherry St. No. 43. They have only about 10 or a dozen boarders. I pay 3 dollars per week which is the lowest I could. Yours John F. Seaman Would anyone know whether # 43 Cherry St. is still standing?

Am I reading this Fraud site correctly? It appears that Seaman lines traced by this Gustave Anjou could be unsupported by traceable citations. Has anyone ever quoted him? I never heard of him before, but that means nothing. Might MT Seaman have quoted his sources, not checked them out and not attributed the "research" to him? I am going to SLC on the 22nd of this month and I will look at this book. If anyone goes earlier or knows about this book: 929.273 Se 16a it would be a favor to comment on it. Marilyn in San Diego Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ, WV KY, and "ye Westward". New Patriot to be added soon to the DAR roll: Willets Seaman of NJ, descendant of Capt. John Seaman of Hempstead, Long Island, NY ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

I just found this site and was surprised to find the SEAMAN name. Better check our lineages carefully! http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/fraud223.htm galvan@ctllc.com

I don't know if you have seen this or not. I may have sent it before. About 8 SEAMANs & 3 or 4 CRONK/CRONKITE. http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

This tips regarding viruses appeared today on another list and I thought the information worth passing on. I just heard from Jim Rubins that his system was infected by the CIH virus. He says he will be out of commission for several days. Hope the rest of you got through Monday without a problem. ------------ DataFellows has been offering F-Prot for years free for personal use. This is a DOS virus scanner/cleaner, but highly respected and effective. And it is updated every month or two. If run under DOS it is better to boot in DOS rather than from a DOS window; instructions are included in the zip file. http://www.datafellows.com/gallery/anti-virus/download.htm --------- Would like to point out that in addition to all you have suggested, there is a free virus checker called housecall on the internet that takes just a few minutes to check for viruses. Here is the url for you to check out and give to your subscribers if you wish. http://housecall.antivirus.com/explorer.html ------- I bought Norton Antivirus version 4 at Walmart for $10. This is a great deal. I had the dreaded CIH virus back in January. I found Norton for 10 bucks and had to get it. It even comes with a year of updates. ------ I have found a spot (due to directions from a son) where you can get a FREE antivirus program. It is as good as Norton. Go to http:///support.cai.com/ and download "Enoculateit". It is free and it does work. ------- Please tell this person they may still be able to recover their precious photos. Last month my boot sector on my hard drive was corrupted. I couldn't even boot my computer. It did not recognize my hard drive at all. I purchased a product at Best Buy, a major electronics store chain in Dallas. (I'm sure it is available elsewhere) It is called Lost & Found. It is produced by Powerquest. You can recover data from corrupted drives, damaged sectors, head crashes, or other damage even after reformatting the hard drive. It was very very simple to use. It works with all IDE, EIDE, and SCSI drive configurations and both FAT16 and FAT32 partitions. And, it doesn't need to installed on your machine prior to use. Its worth a shot. It was only $60. It was WELL worth it. (Norton also has an Unerase program.) Some viruses may just delete the files, which means these programs can work. Other wipe the files which removes all traces of them. All you can do is try this and see what happens. -------- There is a shareware program called "Second Copy" that will back up your data files, or files of your choosing, as you go, if you keep your data disk in a drive, or you can back up at a time you choose. I use a SparQ 1Gb, (no longer made.) I chose it because it can hold a lot more data than my Iomega 100Mb Zip. You can get a 30-day, fully-activated copy of it to try it out. Then you would need to register and pay for it. I think it's $29.95. I heard about it on a program on ZDTV network. I downloaded it from ZDTV at hotfiles.com. It's a pretty easy way to keep data backed up. I am still trying it out and learning more about it. It seems to be pretty sophisticated program, but not hard to learn. Carolyn Mussina Seaman Kinderhook, NY <gregseaman@berk.com>

Hope these help someone! Judy 1865 East Fishkill Census, Dutchess County, NY 1-118 SEAMAN, Charles 44 farmer $500 Louisa 44 (4) William H. 17 b. Onidago Ann M. 15 b. Onidago George 11 b. Onidago 1-119 SEAMAN , Daniel 70 farmer $800 Maria 65 Jiles 35 Margaret Crandle 21 servant 1-122 SEAMAN, Emiline 41 (6) $600 Putnam Anna F. 12 EElla 7 Walter 19 1-85 SEAMAN, Job 58 farmer $1000 Mariah 58 Phebe Smith 26 niece Matilda Cronk 22 servant James Cronk 14 servant 2-65 BOGARDUS, Edward 37 $1500 Susan 34 (3) Charles A. 16 laborer James W. 12 Mary 8 James 73 father Ann Teller 45 servant Switzerland William Lafeller 26 servant-laborer Germany Salina SEAMAN 20 boarder 1865 Census Pleasant Valley, Dutchess County NY 73- SEMAN, Egbert C. 62 (12) M-2 Sarah A. 30 Josie 20 William A. 13 Hettie Armstrong 22 dau. Emma Armstrong 10 dau. Clara B. Armstrong 7/12 dau. 1865 Census, Stanford, Dutchess County NY 1-52 SEAMAN, Eliza 60 Sally 58 Charity 55 1-51 BECKER, Philip 49 (M-2) farmer $1000 Germany Julia A. 48 Shrader, Jacob 21 nephew SEAMAN, Jacob B. 13 nephew

-----Original Message----- From: Linda Harper <pharper@direct.ca> To: Jim Rubins <jmrubins@napanet.net> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 3:01 PM Subject: Althouse >Following is the family tree of john Jr. that we have. I descend from >Elizabeth Althouse Debecks son George > >Descendants of John Jr. Althause > >Generation No. 1 > > >1. JOHN JR.2 ALTHAUSE (JOHN1) was born November 29, 1765 in Scotland, >and died December 17, 1850 in Jerusalem South (now Seaford), Long >Island. He married (1) RACHEL [VELSER] MONTGOMERY. She was born March >13, 1797, and died January 04, 1850. He married (2) JANE JACKSON >September 03, 1783, daughter of RICHARD JACKSON and ROSETTA -------. >She was born 1770, and died February 13, 1790. He married (3) MARTHA >SEAMAN August 06, 1791, daughter of BENJAMIN SEAMAN and LETITIA ALLEN. >She was born December 23, 1768, and died August 11, 1826. > > >Notes for JOHN JR. ALTHAUSE: > >Information about the descendents of John Althouse Jr. were provided by >William Henry Althause (the spelling he used more often) in a letter to >George Ward DeBeck, dated 7 May, 1913. William H. Althause was living >at the time at 2239 Bathgate Avenue, New York, NY. > > >A commission was granted by Sir Henry Clinton to John althause Jr. as >Ensign in NY Vols., commanded by Lieut. Col. George Turnbull - dated 31 >Aug 1779. A commission was granted by Sir Guy Carleton to John >Althause Jr. as Lieut. in NY Vols., commanded by Lieut. Col. George >Turnbull - 5 Sep 1783. > > >John Althause appears on the 1800 NY Census for Queens Co. in the town >of Hempstead, p. 74A # 115. >1 male under 10 yrs, 1 male 26 to 45 yrs, 1 female 26 to 45 years. > > >Notes for JANE JACKSON: >Jane Jackson was a descendant of Robert Jackson, who settled in >Hempstead, Long Island, NY 1644. > > >Notes for MARTHA SEAMAN: >Martha Seaman was a descendant of Capt. John Seaman, who with his six >sons were the first settlers of Jerusalem (now Wantagh) Long Island, in >1666. > > > >Child of JOHN ALTHAUSE and RACHEL MONTGOMERY is: > >2. i. JOHN JACOB3 ALTHAUSE, b. December 23, 1829; d. February >16, 1894. > > >Child of JOHN ALTHAUSE and JANE JACKSON is: > >3. ii. RICHARD JACKSON3 ALTHAUSE, b. December 12, 1786; d. >December 28, 1868. > > >Child of JOHN ALTHAUSE and MARTHA SEAMAN is: > >4. iii. ELWOOD S.3 ALTHAUSE, b. June 26, 1792; d. March 29, >1859. > > > >Generation No. 2 > > >2. JOHN JACOB3 ALTHAUSE (JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was born December 23, 1829, >and died February 16, 1894. He married PHEBE BALDWIN. > > >Child of JOHN ALTHAUSE and PHEBE BALDWIN is: > > i. DAUGHTER4 ALTHAUSE. > > > >3. RICHARD JACKSON3 ALTHAUSE (JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was born December 12, >1786, and died December 28, 1868. He married ELISABETH BIRDSALL, >daughter of BENJAMIN BIRDSALL and FREELOVE JONES. She was born March >10, 1785, and died October 09, 1865. > > >Notes for RICHARD JACKSON ALTHAUSE: > >"Jackson" Althause apears on the 1810 NY census for Queens Co., Oyster >Bay & Hempstead, p. 380. Males: under 10 yrs (1), 16 - 26 yrs. (1); >females: 16 - 26 yrs. (1), 26 - 45 yrs (1). Other free persons (1). > > >Richard Althause appears on the 1850 NY census for Queens Co. - 238 >-1581, next to the John G. Saman family. > > > > >Notes for ELISABETH BIRDSALL: >Elisabeth Birdsall was a descendant of Nathan Birdsall, on eof the first >purchasers of land from the Indians at Matinecock, Long Island, 1667, >also a descendant of Major Thomas Jones -- the first settlers of Fort >Neck, Long Island (now Massapequa) in 1695. > > >Children of RICHARD ALTHAUSE and ELISABETH BIRDSALL are: > >5. i. SAMUEL BIRDSALL4 ALTHAUSE, b. July 04, 1807. > >6. ii. JANE ELIZABETH ALTHAUSE, b. August 28, 1813; d. April >06, 1891. > > > >4. ELWOOD S.3 ALTHAUSE (JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was born June 26, 1792, and >died March 29, 1859. He married SARAH SEAMAN, daughter of JOHN SEAMAN >and MARY WHITSON. She was born September 30, 1792, and died February >16, 1873. > > >Children of ELWOOD ALTHAUSE and SARAH SEAMAN are: > >7. i. ELEANOR DURGAVIL4 ALTHAUSE, b. October 26, 1816; d. July >31, 1875. > > ii. SARAH M. ALTHAUSE, m. JOHN J. ALTHOUSE. > > iii. THOMAS E. ALTHAUSE, b. Abt. 1831; d. March 16, 1863; m. >ADELIA JACKSON. > >8. iv. MARTHA ALTHAUSE. > > > > >Generation No. 3 > > >5. SAMUEL BIRDSALL4 ALTHAUSE (RICHARD JACKSON3, JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was >born July 04, 1807. He married HELEN WELLING SEALY. > > >Children of SAMUEL ALTHAUSE and HELEN SEALY are: > > i. JANE ELIZABETH5 ALTHAUSE, b. 1828. > > ii. JOHN JACKSON ALTHAUSE, d. 1881. > > iii. SAMUEL BIRDSALL JR. ALTHAUSE, d. 1907; m. CHRISTIANA >MOTT; d. 1891. > > iv. HELEN LOUISA ALTHAUSE, d. 1906; m. WILLIAM F. LEE; d. >1888. > > v. ADELIA BIRDSALL ALTHAUSE. > > vi. JERUSHA MOTT ALTHAUSE, d. 1878; m. WILLIAM CUSHING; d. >1900. > > vii. TELAZEAL ELIZA ALTHAUSE, d. 1840. >9. viii. WILLIAM HENRY ALTHAUSE, b. 1841. > > > >6. JANE ELIZABETH4 ALTHAUSE (RICHARD JACKSON3, JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was >born August 28, 1813, and died April 06, 1891. She married JOHN GILBERT >SEAMAN December 05, 1834, son of JOHN SEAMAN and MARY WHITSON. He was >born September 09, 1813, and died June 02, 1895. > > >Notes for JOHN GILBERT SEAMAN: > >John G. Seaman and family appear on the 1850 NY Census for Queens Co., >p. 238, Dwelling 1515, family 1580. Richard J. Althause is next door. > > >Children of JANE ALTHAUSE and JOHN SEAMAN are: > > i. JOHN JACKSON5 SEAMAN, b. October 07, 1840. > > ii. WILLIAM HENRY SEAMAN, b. June 23, 1844. > > iii. HELEN LOUISA SEAMAN, b. December 02, 1850. > > > >7. ELEANOR DURGAVIL4 ALTHAUSE (ELWOOD S.3, JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) was born >October 26, 1816, and died July 31, 1875. She married SAMUEL S. JONES >June 07, 1834 in Hempstead, Queens [now Nassau], NY, son of WILLIAM >JONES and ALMY SEAMAN. He was born March 26, 1809, and died November >27, 1893. > >Children of ELEANOR ALTHAUSE and SAMUEL JONES are: > > i. EDGAR TOWNSEND5 JONES, b. November 27, 1839; d. May 17, >1890. > > ii. ALBERT GALLATIN JONES, b. June 13, 1842. > > > >8. MARTHA4 ALTHAUSE (ELWOOD S.3, JOHN JR.2, JOHN1) She married WILLIAM >D. JONES December 18, 1841. He was born June 17, 1814, and died July >23, 1866. > > >Children of MARTHA ALTHAUSE and WILLIAM JONES are: > > i. ADELIA5 JONES, b. July 25, 1845; d. November 15, 1845. > > ii. SARAH MARIA JONES, b. March 23, 1848. > > > > >Generation No. 4 > > >9. WILLIAM HENRY5 ALTHAUSE (SAMUEL BIRDSALL4, RICHARD JACKSON3, JOHN >JR.2, JOHN1) was born 1841. He married SARAH ANN SMITH 1869. > > >Children of WILLIAM ALTHAUSE and SARAH SMITH are: > > i. WILLIAM HENRY JR.6 ALTHAUSE, b. 1870; d. 1875. > > ii. JOHN GELSTON ALTHAUSE, b. 1871; d. 1875. > > iii. WALTER ALTHAUSE, b. 1876; m. MARY E. BLACK. > > >Notes for WALTER ALTHAUSE: >Walter Althouse worked as a stockbroker. > > > iv. JANE ELIZABETH ALTHAUSE, b. 1878. > > v. FREDERICK D. ALTHAUSE, b. 1879; d. 1882. > > vi. CARRIE ALTHAUSE, b. 1882. >

Hello Looking for connection to Israel Seaman born 1776 in town of ????married??? died ??? His son David Seaman born ??? in town of ??? married 1815 to ??? died 1865. His son Silas Seaman born 1826 in town of Chatham Penn., married ??? died ??? His son (my mothers father) Willice Mace Seaman, born April 12, 1869 Farmington Penn.,married Hattie Lucy of Elmira, New York June 28 ,1897 at Bedford Park ,NYC but lived in Elmira untill 1910.My Mother was born their in 1904.Willce was living in Elmira from at least 1880. Information came from my Mothers sister. No one alive today to ask. George Van Riper Fair Lawn NJ

-----Original Message----- From: David See <dsee@preferred.com> To: Jim Rubins <jmrubins@napanet.net> Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Parents of Mary and Margaret Seaman who mar. sons of Peter See in Tarrytown >Margaret Seaman md. Isaac See. He was b. 1766 in or around Tarrytown, NY, d. >1826. Margaret See, wife of Isaac died 1849 and is buried in Sleepy Hollow >churchyard. The couple had nine children. I don't have her parents or her birth >place or date. > >Dr. John See was b. 1768, also at Tarrytown, and d. 1838 in NYC. He married >Maria Seaman in 1797. Maria d. 1869. I even have an exact birth date for her, 15 >Jul 1782, but no place. They had 10 children of record. I know a bit more about >Dr. John. He did his apprenticeship in Livingston manor. In the late 1790s the >family lived in Saddle Ridge, NJ before they moved to NYC. > >Thanks if you can help! > >Dave > I have confirmation of the marriage of John SEA [sic] to Maria Seaman but I don't have her lineage. 1. Maria1 Seaman She married John Sea December 2, 1797 in New Amsterdam Reformed Church, New York City, NY (Source: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society: Vol 10 Marriages from 1639 to 1801 in the Reformed Dutch Church New Amsterdam NYC, (New York: 1940), 274.). ==================================================== I am taking the liberty of posting your query on the SEAMAN e-mail list to see if any other researchers have clues.