Hi Terry, You said: If anyone is interested, I would be willing to make the list part of a future e-mail to this group. I would love to see that list in future emails. Thank you for offering it to us. I also wanted to mention that I have a booklet for the Farina, Illinois SDA. It is titled "Commemorating A Century of Seventh Day baptist History at Farina, Illinois 1866-1966." It gives information about it founding and general information throughout its history. It also lists all the ministers from 1866 to 1966. Unfortunately, the church was torn down a few years ago. The town was basically founded by the SDA but there is only one family left there today. They have all moved on, or married into non-SDA families. There is a nice monument at the location of the old church. So, if anyone is interested in the information from the Farina booklet, just let me know, I will be glad to share it. Stephen P.H. Frakes

I have a copy of the First Records 1745 -1834 of Shrosebeary on "September 6 1789 ""Then did the body of this Church Remove from Shrosebeary in order to settle in the state o Virginey"" and the first Mettinting at Salem was on May 13 1792 . below is a part of the story you can find on the Salem WV web page . HISTORY OF SALEM IN 2000 WORDS OR LESS City of Salem Harrison County, West Virginia by Dorothy Davis (1996) ". Randolph, from New Jersey, had never ventured into the state of Virginia, let alone Harrison County, where the land lay. Across the Pennsylvania border from Woodbridgetown, where Randolph lived, was a group of settlers newly arrived from New Jersey and members of the Seventh Day Baptist Church. Randolph belonged to the denomination. Some of the settlers kept coming to tell him that they were dissatisfied with their land on White Day Creek in Monongalia County. They wanted to push on to new territory. " IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE," Randolph told them, "I have a deed for 400 acres you can take with you to find the land in the headwaters of the Monongahela River. " The settlers decided to start out. The chance the would-be settlers took was greater than their innocence let them know. No one before the Battle of Fallen Timbers in Ohio in 1795 would try to live beyond the West Fork River of the Monongahela River System. Forts protected people east of the river, but west of the river was Indian territory. Chance saved the settlers who were at the site they named "New Salem" in 1791. After the Indian menace ended in 1795 on Tenmile Creek, a tributary of the West Fork River, an Indian told the settlers that his people could have wiped out the people in New Salem, but refrained from the slaughter for one reason: the settlers wore jackets, pantaloons and hats which told the Indians that they were from Pennsylvania or New Jersey. The Indians hated the Virginians who wore hunting shirts and coon-skin caps. Indians called the Virginians "Long Knives" and killed all of them they could. But the settlers were glad to have eight members of the Virginia Militia stationed in the blockhouse they had built during the winters of 1792-93 and 1793-94. Samuel Fitz Randolph followed the settlers to New Salem in 1793 and immediately set about to have the town incorporated by the Virginia Assembly in 1794.

Was there a Seventh Day Baptist Church before 1820 in the area which was then within the boundaries of "Sempronius," one of the townships within then-Cayuga County? Presentday "Sempronius" is 4 miles from presentday "Scott," but "Sempronius" in 1820 was much larger. Sanford's "Central New York State" volume gives Scott as "organized 1820" and original records at Cornell Univ. Also, does anyone know the exact date that the Salem, West Virginia SDB church was founded? The "Newport Trilogy" says in a footnote to the Hubbard genealogy that it was after the Rev War. I had family in Hampshire County, VA at the time of the Revolution, and I'm curious whether (a) the SDBs were in Virginia west of the mountains in the 1770s, and (b) whether Salem was at that time in Hampshire County. Especially since my family name was "Burgett," which some people speculate about sounding like "Burdick," and I have a Nancy Barbara Burgett (1769-1858) married to Thomas RODGERS (1767-1850). The surname "Rogers" pops out at me in SDB records. Thanks. Jim Johnson

Hi, I found this Greene family web site. It is an SDB family & contains many familiar names that someone might be looking for. There are 2 John Greene lines listed, : John Greene of Quidnessett, RI for sure has many SDB connections. http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/genelogy.html

Received this from a fellow researcher on another list. I have not seen this book myself but thought I would pass it along as many of our SDB ancestors moved from Rhode Island to Chenango County. Audrey -----Original Message----- Are you familiar with Nelson B. Tiffany's "Revolutionary War Veterans Chenango County New York," Heritage Books, 1998? This is an excellent source of information. I know that the accuracy of Tiffany's work is subject to the reliability of DAR records, but since it does reference pension records, you might send for a copy of them.

In a message dated 5/24/99 3:41:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Received this from a fellow researcher on another list. I have not seen > this book myself but thought I would pass it along as many of our SDB > ancestors moved from Rhode Island to Chenango County. > This could be great news for me!! Does anyone have a Cynthia Seward who was born in 1798 in Chenango?? She married Robert Robinson and they had FOURTEEN children, the youngest of which was Henry Bunker, b. 1844. Looking for Seward info as well as Robert's parents. Jan Robison Casselberry, FL

Hello! I am new to the list and have lots of questions but I will start with this one: Was there a SDB community in Luzerne and/or Wyoming counties PA in the early 1800's? Thanks for any help you can give. Denise Sallee Monterey, CA

Hello everyone! I have learned that George Bradford Carpenter, b. 1846, was, indeed SDB. Does anyone have any info??? I know he married Mary Elizabeth Covey, b. 1846 and have the names of their children, one of which was my great grandmother, Harriet Wells Carpenter. She married Theodore Julian Van Horn ("T.J.") who was a SDB minister. Am particularly interested in knowing who his parents were, etc. He is my dead end. Many thanks! Jan Robison Casselberry, FL

If you go to http://wvweb.com/www/salemwv/index.html#historic_sites Then go to "HISTORIC INFORMATION" there a lot of background on the Church that move from Monmouth Co NJ to Salem WV, go down to "HISTORY OF SALEM IN 2000 WORDS OR LESS City of Salem Harrison County, West Virginia by Dorothy Davis (1996)" Try for more info SALEM-TEIKYO UNIVERSITY www.salem-teikyo.wvnet.edu SALEM POLICE DEPARTMENT www.iolinc.net/salempd Richard "Brandstetter Tinton Falls ,Monmouth Co NJ Audrey Bennett wrote: > > Hello everyone - > > There is so little traffic on our SDB list! > > How's this for an idea: let's all share some web sites we've found that > have been helpful to us in our search for SDB ancestors. Please let the > list know about any sites you have found that contain great information. > > Here is what I have: > > There are some listed in the rotating taglines that appear at the bottom of > messages to SDB-L: > > - The Seventh Day Baptist Church has a website: > http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/ > > - Check out the SDB books available at Heritage Books: > http://www.heritagebooks.com/ > > - Visit the Crandall Family Association at > http://www.geocities.com/~wyatt1599/cfa/contents.html (If it's late at > night, turn down the volume...there's music.) > > - Learn more about your Stillman ancestors: http://www.stillman.org/ > > Another I've found that's really great is the EMGS website, which has tons > of valuable information for researchers in the western NY state area, where > so many SDB members lived. You'll find it at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3294/oags.html > > There is a Burdick page at http://ra.nilenet.com/~hburdick/botw.html > > Happy hunting! > > Your listowner, > Audrey Bennett > [email protected] > Bellevue, WA USA > > ==== SDB Mailing List ==== > Visit the Crandall Family Association at > http://www.geocities.com/~wyatt1599/cfa/contents.html > (If it's late at night, turn down the volume...there's music.)

Hello everyone - There is so little traffic on our SDB list! How's this for an idea: let's all share some web sites we've found that have been helpful to us in our search for SDB ancestors. Please let the list know about any sites you have found that contain great information. Here is what I have: There are some listed in the rotating taglines that appear at the bottom of messages to SDB-L: - The Seventh Day Baptist Church has a website: http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/ - Check out the SDB books available at Heritage Books: http://www.heritagebooks.com/ - Visit the Crandall Family Association at http://www.geocities.com/~wyatt1599/cfa/contents.html (If it's late at night, turn down the volume...there's music.) - Learn more about your Stillman ancestors: http://www.stillman.org/ Another I've found that's really great is the EMGS website, which has tons of valuable information for researchers in the western NY state area, where so many SDB members lived. You'll find it at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3294/oags.html There is a Burdick page at http://ra.nilenet.com/~hburdick/botw.html Happy hunting! Your listowner, Audrey Bennett [email protected] Bellevue, WA USA

--part1_2c43fae8.244c03c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought I would pass this on. It speaks for itself. --part1_2c43fae8.244c03c5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.36]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:37:48 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA19739; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16864; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Jean & Marc Partlow" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Subject: Thank God we survived the FHL shooting Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:22:26 -0700 Organization: Words 'n Stats X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"LSfVE.A.VHE.FTqG3"@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/470 X-Loop: [email protected] To: [email protected] Precedence: list Errors-To: [email protected] Resent-Sender: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] Jean sent you a message last week that we were going to the Family History Library in SLC to do research. Thank God for the bravery and leadership of staff member John Beebe and others. I was less than twenty feet from the gunman when he started shooting. When they evacuated us from the first floor it was at least 45 minutes before they evacuated the second basement where Jean was locked in an office with other researchers and staff praying. You can imagine my fear and anxiety for that time. After an hour or so the police directed us across the street to Abravonal Hall, a concert hall where we could reunite with missing loved ones and group members. There were still 13 of our 40 member group from Orange County Calif Genealogical Society missing. Within half an hour of getting there local catering companies had hot lunch buffet tables set up and the staff members from the library where there serving us, perhaps 500 to a thousand, free food. they responded immediately to the need without thinking of the cost. Our group was asked to meet in the lobby and a very young, perhaps twenty, year old man with a badge that said LDS Services listened to our stories. There was little he could do other than get us the current information as best he could and to listen. In the library at the time of the crises there was no screaming of panic; under the leadership of Mr. Beebe we were evacuated safely and orderly. Of course people were terrefied, but everthing was orderly. That night at dinner the waitress overheard us talking and said she was spouse to one of the swat team in the crises. She gave us free desserts and said in this small way she could comfort us. Saturday morning when Jean and I went into the library to get our things it was very somber. As we left out the back door Jean was crying and a LDS staff lady came up to us and asked if there was anything she could do to help. The all were so kind and careing. For my part I'd like to point out that this kind of tragedy can happen at any time and any place when one is dealing with a mentally unstable person. As I have pieced together the stories of others present I realized how any one of us could have been harmed had Mr. Beebe not acted in his courageous manner. Today in the paper I read that he (and his wife) do not consider themselves heroes. The honor goes to God for giving him the strength to do what he did..He was shot at three times, once literally splitting the hair on his head. I choose to emphasize the strength of the human spirit that pulls people together in time of crises. I'm sure there were over a thousand people in the library when this occurred. This community, and especially those members of the LDS church were outstanding in their helpfulness to those in need. I am not Mormon, but want to give these people the credit they deserve. If it is in your tradition, I ask you to pray for those that have suffered loss or fear from this ordeal. I have spoken with several that do not intend to return to SLC again because of the fear. thank you for indulging my rambling and excuse my spelling. Marcus Partlow & Jean McCombs --part1_2c43fae8.244c03c5_boundary--

Some wonderful person told me where they found a reference to my George Bradford Carpenter, b. August 6, 1846 in North Brookfield. Does anyone have access to WFT Volume 16, #2356?? I would be very grateful to them for doing a lookup for me. Need any and all particulars about this man. Many thanks, Jan Robison Casselberry, FL

Hi, all- In my research this week, I was able to narrow down when the different SDB Churches in Southeastern CT and Southern RI existed. They all are considered off-shoots of the Newport SDB Church, because many of the original members of the first churches came out of Newport's congregation. *Ashaway, RI, known as "First Hopkinton SDB Church", 1708 - present. *Rockville, RI, known as "Third Hopkinton SDB Church", 1770/71 - present *Waterford (CT) SDB Church, 1784 - present. *Second Hopkinton SDB Church, 1835 - sometime after 1971. (Interesting start to this group. Tell you another time.) (I'm not sure where in Hopkinton it was located, or when it stopped being an active congregation.) *Westerly, RI, known as "Pawcatuck SDB Church", 1840 - present. *Greenmanville SDB Church, in lower Mystic, CT, 1850 - circa 1900-01. (The meeting house was sold in 1902.) I was unable to gain access to the Westerly Library's Local History Room on Wed. night. It's staffed by volunteers, and there isn't anyone there most evenings. One of the reference librarians pulled out 2 books for me to look at while I was there, which are where I got this information. The books are: "Seventh Day Baptists in New England, 1671-1971, Historical Notes" by Karl G. Stillman; and "Marine Historical Association, Mystic, CT, vol. 1, No. 13", with an article entitled, "George Greenman and Company, Shipbuilders of Mystic, CT", by Thomas A. Stevens and Dr. Charles K. Stillman. The librarian also told me there is a book at the Ashaway Library entitled, "Bicentennial Celebration of the First SDB Church of Hopkinton." I plan to get over to both libraries sometime in the next few weeks and see what else I can find. Catch you all later! Terry L. (Crane) Durst Groton, CT

Jan- When was Amy Doris Van Horn born? When did her father serve as an SDB minister? I may be able to find something more on Rev. Van Horn at the Westerly Public Library, or one of the other local libraries. (I was told that the Mystic/Noank Library had information about the Greenmanville SDB Church.) I will be in Westerly this evening, so I'll be sure to find out if their local history room has any information about the Ashaway SDB Church and the Van Horns. I'll let everyone know what I find. Terry L. (Crane) Durst Groton, CT

Richard, are you sure your not talking about Shiloh in Cumberland County NJ? This is a small community that was had an SDB church that my relatives belonged to. Bill Maryott Richard Brandstetter wrote: > There is a story on S D Baptist church, Shilob , Salem NJ.in "old and > Historic Churches of New Jersey Bolume 2 "by Ellis L Derry 1994 Plexus > Publishing Inc Medford NJ . It a 9 Page story on this church Names dates > and history .there about 23 church in the Volume I do not have volume 2 > as of now . > > ==== SDB Mailing List ==== > The Seventh Day Baptist Church has a website: http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/

Jan Robison [email protected] wrote: > > My great grandfather was an ordained SDB minister. His only child, Amy > Doris, was born in Ashaway, RI. Can anyone tell me anything about him? I > have all family lines both ancestors and descendants. Just wanting to know > him better. > > Jan Robison > Casselberry, FL > > ==== SDB Mailing List ==== > Check out the SDB books available at Heritage Books: http://www.heritagebooks.com/ A little information from DAVIS Genealogy by Thomas Clayton Davis to be found at SDB headquarters: "Rev T J Van Horn entered Milton College in the fall of 1884, 'working his way,' and was graduated in Jun 1888. After serving as principal of the high school at Walworth WI one year, he entered the Baptist Union Theological Seminary at Morgan Park, Chicago in 1890. He was graduated from the Univ of Chicago in 1893." Marilyn Shuler Kenosha WI

I am interested in further background information on Rev. Samuel Woodbridge. Some information on him was found in the book "Seventh Day Baptist History" by Corliss Fitz Randolph. It shows he was born in 1746 in Penn. and died 7 July 1814 in Woodbridgetown, Fayette Co., Penn. The book says he founded Woodbridgetown. Samuel Woodbridge married Anne Jolliffe, the daughter of James Jolliffe and Hannah Springer. They would have no children of their own, but did adopt a child, Sarah. Thank you, Kathleen Rizer

My great grandfather was an ordained SDB minister. His only child, Amy Doris, was born in Ashaway, RI. Can anyone tell me anything about him? I have all family lines both ancestors and descendants. Just wanting to know him better. Jan Robison Casselberry, FL

yes it is Cumberland County NJ Salem is south West of Shiloh . Cohansey Corners became Shiloh. I may be off on this but in the Fitz Randolph Book it hard to tell if he thinks of them as the same place or group . I know living in Monmouth Co I have to say Salem for some one to know about were the church is in the State .The story is on S D Baptist church, Shilob.Shilob has a daughter church at Marlboro , Richard Brandstetter William Maryott wrote: > Richard, are you sure your not talking about Shiloh in Cumberland County NJ? This > is a small community that was had an SDB church that my relatives belonged to. > Bill Maryott > > Richard Brandstetter wrote: > > > There is a story on S D Baptist church, Shilob , Salem NJ.in "old and > > Historic Churches of New Jersey Bolume 2 "by Ellis L Derry 1994 Plexus > > Publishing Inc Medford NJ . It a 9 Page story on this church Names dates > > and history .there about 23 church in the Volume I do not have volume 2 > > as of now . > > > > ==== SDB Mailing List ==== > > The Seventh Day Baptist Church has a website: http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/ > > ==== SDB Mailing List ==== > Visit the Crandall Family Association at > http://www.geocities.com/~wyatt1599/cfa/contents.html > (If it's late at night, turn down the volume...there's music.)

There is a story on S D Baptist church, Shilob , Salem NJ.in "old and Historic Churches of New Jersey Bolume 2 "by Ellis L Derry 1994 Plexus Publishing Inc Medford NJ . It a 9 Page story on this church Names dates and history .there about 23 church in the Volume I do not have volume 2 as of now .