This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FdB.2ACE/501.2 Message Board Post: In response to your query I am sending this genealogy report. There may be some of it you don't have, although I can tell from your message of 21Oct 2001 on the RootsWeb Message Board of York Co SC that you have a great deal on the family. I am not a descendant of either the Blacks or McElwee families, but I have a Henry line and some of them intermarried with the McElwees. Hope that there is something within that will give you a little more ingformation that you can use. If there is anything you think of that you would like to ask me, please email me at mhm@commspeed.net. I have a lot of records from the Pike Co MO area, as my paternal Grandmother, my Father, Rue Curtis Hudson (b Aug 9 1894)and many of his brothers and sisters, as well as other relatives and my husband's parents were born there. Marilyn Moore Descendants of Rhoda Black Generation No. 1 1. Rhoda1 Black was born Abt. 1774 in SC- living in 1835-mention in will of son, John H McElwee, and died Aft. 1860. She married (1) Rev James McElwee1, son of William McElwee and Janet Black. He was born August 19, 1758 in Brunswick Co VA - to Buffalo Twp Pike Co MO-March 1832, and died January 13, 1834 in will adm Jan 31 1834. She married (2) John Givens. He was born 1805 in South Carolina. Notes for Rhoda Black: In the Louisisana Pike Co MO 1850 Census, Rhoda's sisters, Mary and Elizabeth, Betsy, McELwee were in household. Notes for Rev James McElwee: 1850 Census A Margaret McElwee-75 SC, Mary McElwee-30 SC a Narcissa McElwee-27SC and Betsy McElwee-26 SC were living with John and Rhoda McElwee James Black fought in the Revolutionary War The complete record of military services is located in the files of the National Archives of the US under File No. W 9553, relating to pensions of Revol War soldiers. the pension application, No. 106, of his widow Rhoda Black is there also. The James McElwee Chapter of D.A.R. at Sigourney, IA was established my Mary Virginia McElwee Goldner in honor of this James McElwee. Notes for John Givens: IN 1850 Fed Census , Louisiana, Pike Co, MO John 45- and wife Rhoda36- were in household with Samuel G Givens-b MO -14yrs, Narcissa Givens-27 born SC, Margaret Givens, 75-SC. Mary McElwee -30, and Betsy McElwee-26 yrs SC. In 1850 Pike CO MO Census there was a Samuel Givens, 49 from SC and Sarah (wife?) 52 in Louisiana Pike Co MO, aong with Lawson, (m) 22 yrs. Albert R, 20 yrs, Margaret, 18 yrs, Elizabeth 16 yrs, E Wilson Howell-) 10 yrs-all of MO and Jemima Gilmore 80 yrs-SC Could Samuel and John be brothers? In 1860 Census, Samuel, 60 yrs, Sarah, 62 years, Lawson W, 30 yrsand Wilson Howell, 19 yrs were living near John D and Mary Mills McElwee. Children of Rhoda Black and James McElwee are: 2 i. Jemima2 McElwee, born Unknown. 3 ii. Ann B McElwee, born April 01, 1795 in she was mentioned in Alexander Henry's will; died in in her father, James McElwee's will. She married William Josiah Henry; died in Two were living in York Co SC-1834. 4 iii. Jane McElwee, born June 09, 1797. + 5 iv. Matilda McElwee, born August 17, 1798. + 6 v. William Black McElwee, born October 08, 1799; died 1837. 7 vi. John Henry McElwee, born April 11, 1800; died October 05, 1835 in will probate. 8 vii. Margaret McElwee, born March 23, 1801. 9 viii. Dan McElwee, born January 17, 1802. + 10 ix. James Darby McElwee, born January 17, 1802 in South Carolina; died 1871. + 11 x. Rhoda McElwee, born June 18, 1808 in South Carolina; died Bef. 1880. 12 xi. Ross McElwee, born May 20, 1809. He married Naomi McGary October 06, 1840 in Pike Co MO-Rev Thomas T Johnson. 13 xii. Mary McElwee, born July 12, 1812. 14 xiii. Abner Lewis McElwee, born January 06, 1814. 15 xiv. Amos Harris McElwee, born April 29, 1816. 16 xv. Elizbeth Betsy J McElwee2, born October 01, 1817 in SC. Children of Rhoda Black and John Givens are: 17 i. Margaret2 Givens, born 1833 in SC. 18 ii. Sarah Givens, born 1835 in MO. 19 iii. Green Givens, born 1836 in MO. 20 iv. Narcissa Givens, born 1855 in SC. Generation No. 2 5. Matilda2 McElwee (Rhoda1 Black) was born August 17, 1798. She married John Nathen Sr (?) Massey. Notes for Matilda McElwee: Matilda's parents wereJames McElwee b. Aug 19, 1758 in that part of Brunswick Co., VA, which is now Greenville Co., and died in Pike Co., MO on Jan 13, 1834. He enlisted as a volunteer in the SC Militia in York Co., in the winter of 1775 uner Capt. John Moffett, who was under Col. Thomas Neel. James married Rhoda Black and they had 14 children Ann B. Apr 1, 1795, Jane Jun 9, 1797, Matilda Aug 17, 1798 (originally was listed as 1998), William Black Oct 8, 1799; John Henry Apr 11, 1800; Margaret March 23, 1801; James Darby Jan 17 1802; Dan May 2, 1806; Rhoda Jun 8, 1808; Ross May 20, 1809; Mary July 9, 1812; Abner Lewis Jan 6, 1814; Amos Harris Apr 29, `1816; and Elizabeth Oct 1, 1817. There are 3 pages of James in the various wars. The complete record of military services is located in the files of the National Archives of the US under File No. W 9553, relating to pensions of Revol War soldiers. the pension application, No. 106, of his widow Rhoda Black is there also. The James McElwee Chapter of D.A.R. at Sigourney, IA was established my Mary Virginia McElwee Goldner in honor of this James McElwee. In March of 1832 James, his wife and children, except Ann, moved to Pike County, MO. They floated their covered wagons and oxen across the Mississippi River by cutting trees and attaching them to the sides of the wagons. This portage was made close the the present site of the Champ Clark Bridge at Louisiana, Missouri.They settled 165 acres located about half way between LA and Bowling Green, Missouri, located 5 miles north of the present US Hwy 54. Here he errected a home of handmade bricks consisting of two large rooms with a fireplace across the end of the west room. It still stands today. He built a sawmill which is still to be seen in ruins. Across a revine, about a quarter of a mile sw, is the family cemetery where James and his wife and quite a number of his descendants are buried. Their inscription: "Sacred to the memory of James McElwee , an old Revolutionary soldier, born in Greenville County, Virginia, Aug 19, 1758 and died in Pike County Mo., January 13, 1834, age! d 75 years 4 months and 24 days." Hope this helps. Linda Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message ted to this board also appear in the "BLACK-L@rootsweb.com" mailing list. Search all Ancestry.com databases for "Black" records List Messages | Post New Message | Add Board To Favorites | Add Board To Notifications | Links & Announcements <<Thread • Previous • Next • Thread>> Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? Author: Robin Date: 26 Sep 2001 2:49 AM GMT Surnames: Black and Mcelwee Classification: Query Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message I am searching for information on Janet Black b, 19 Aug 1738, maybe in VA She married William McElwee in PA. She died in York, SC Dec 25 1825. I would like to find out who her parents were. I have also found another Black. Her name was Rhoda Black. She was married to Rev. James W. McElwee. She might of been born abt. 1774, and died 1845. Her husband died in Pike Co. MO. I am thinking that these to are related somehow. I would appreciate any help that you can give me! My email address is byrdie92@hotmail.com Bye, Robin ******** Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? : Susy McClellan -- 5 Dec 2001 Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? : Robin -- 6 Dec 2001 Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? : Susy McClellan -- 6 Dec 2001 ******************* Boards > Surnames > Black >From Suzy McClellan Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? Author: Susy McClellan Date: 5 Dec 2001 1:18 AM GMT Classification: Query In Reply to: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? by: Robin Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message James W. McElwee is the son of Wm & Janet (Black) McElwee. He married Rhoda Black. That's what's in our family records... ******************************* Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? Author: Robin Date: 6 Dec 2001 6:18 PM GMT Classification: Query In Reply to: Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? by: Susy McClellan Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message Thank you for the info. Do you have any info on the parents of Janet Black, and Rhoda Black. I have absolutly nothing on them. Thank you for any help that you can give me! Bye, Robin ******************** Susy McClellan Date: 6 Dec 2001 11:41 PM GMT Classification: Query In Reply to: Re: Janet Black, born about 19 Aug 1738, VA? married William McElwee in PA? by: Robin Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message Sorry--nothing more on Black family Messages posted to this board also appear in the "SCYORK-L@rootsweb.com" mailing list. Re: McElwee/Massey 1790s Author: L. Glenn Date: 12 Nov 2001 11:06 PM GMT Surnames: McElwee/Massey Classification: Query In Reply to: McElwee/Massey 1790s by: Johnette Hodgin Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message Matilda McElwee b. Aug 17, 1798 married Nathan Massey. They had 2 sons: John N. (1820) and James D. (1822). According to family tradition neither son is supposed to have married. ************ Children of Matilda McElwee and John Massey are: 21 i. John N3 Massey, born in Pike Co MO. 22 ii. James D M Massey. 6. William Black2 McElwee (Rhoda1 Black) was born October 08, 1799, and died 1837. He married Isabelle Mills. She was born 1828. Notes for Isabelle Mills: In Pike CO Marriages on Dec 19 1839 a John Humphrey and widow Isabella McElwee were married by Thomas T hompson, MG. Could Ibby be short for Isabella Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Missouri > Counties > Pike McElwee - Humphrey Author: Leaneta Eilers Date: 16 Jun 1999 12:00 PM GMT Surnames: McElwee, Macklewee, Humphrey Classification: Query Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message Am looking for information on a Isabella McElwee also may be known as Ebbie Mills Macklewee? She married John Humphrey @ 1840 and had 4 children: Bilsie(Elsie), William, John Samuel and Nancy ******* Isabella McElwee Author: Diana Christopulos Date: 20 Oct 1999 12:00 PM GMT Surnames: McElwee Classification: Query In Reply to: McElwee - Humphrey by: Leaneta Eilers Re: Isabella Mills McElwee in Pike County, MO. She may be the Isabelle Mills who b. 1828 who married William Black McElwee. He d. 1837, so she could have remarried. I have no other info on her except that they had daughters named Elizabeth Jane and Mary Margaret. William's lineage is as follows: William McElwee and Janet Black >> James W. McElwee m. Rhoda Black >> William Black McElwee. James was a Revolutionary War veteran who moved to Ohio late in life. A good source on James is "Virginia/West Virginia Geneology Data from Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Records," v. 3 compiled by Patrick G. Wardell, Lt. Col. U.S. Army, retired. Heritage Books, 1992. There is also a McElwee family history of this branch written by Pinckney McElwee and available in some geneology libraries. Hope this helps. **** Lavina Elizabeth Humphrey nee:Smith Author: Leaneta Eilers Date: 15 Jun 1999 12:00 PM GMT Surnames: HUMPHREY, SMITH, MILLS Classification: Query Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message Am looking for information on Lavina Elizabeth Smith b. 7/8/1850 in Pike County, MO. She married John Samuel Humphrey on 4/17/1870 in Vandalia. They had 4 children that followed them to Almira, WA. Lavina is my GG Grandmother. Will be happy to share. John Samuel's mother was Ebbie Mills, any info? Smiths ofPike county : Jan Mhoon -- 22 Nov 2000 Surnames: Smith, Lamberson Classification: Query In Reply to: Lavina Elizabeth Humphrey nee:Smith by: Leaneta Eilers Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message I just found your query from 1999. Now this may be far fetched, but here goes. My great great grandparents; Commadore Perry Smith and his wife Mary (Lamberson) Smith resided in Pike county about 1850. In the 1850 census they are listed with four children;Eliza J; Frances Mary; Commadore Perry, and an infant daughter listed as being 1/12 year old. Now the census was taken August 17,1850. Now if your Lavinia was born on July 8, l850, that would put her one month old on census day. Could we possibly connect? Jan Children of William McElwee and Isabelle Mills are: 23 i. Elizabeth Jane3 McElwee. 24 ii. Mary Margaret McElwee. 10. James Darby2 McElwee (Rhoda1 Black) was born January 17, 1802 in South Carolina, and died 1871. He married Mary Mills January 03, 1833 in Pike Co MO -Lewis Rogers, JP. She was born 1810 in South Carolina, and died 1871. Notes for James Darby McElwee: One record had Daniel as the middle name of James Darby McElwee Homeplace is now(1980) on the William Herche farm on Hwy UU This is the site of the McELwee-Stewart-Carr Cemetery- A cem rec in Jefferson City MO stated that Catherine Allison Henry bur there. 1850 Census In his household was living with them Azhba Mills 64- SC Mother of Mary ?- Abner L McElwee,36 son, and John N Massie 20 ,(who?) both men were listed as" to the mines" In 1860 Census James D, Mary , Martha, Wm B, James H and M E (Mary Elizabeth?) were in household. Notes for Mary Mills: Could Mary Mills have been a sister-in-law of Rosanna Henry Mills, wife of James Mills? Children of James McElwee and Mary Mills are: 25 i. Matilda A3 McElwee3, born 1835 in Missouri. She married John Nathen Sr (?) Massey. 26 ii. William B McElwee, born 1838 in Missouri. 27 iii. James H McElwee, born 1842 in Missouri. 28 iv. John M McElwee, born 1844 in Missouri; died in - not in household in 1860 Census-Pike Co MO. + 29 v. Mary Emily McElwee, born 1847 in Missouri; died in Kansas City MO. 11. Rhoda2 McElwee (Rhoda1 Black) was born June 18, 1808 in South Carolina, and died Bef. 18804. She married John Givens. He was born 1832. Notes for Rhoda McElwee: In 1850 Census her mother Margaret, sisters: Mary Betsy and a Narcissa McElwee , poss another sister. Notes for John Givens: Birth years from 1880 Pike Co -Calumet Twp-MO Fed Census-no wife mentioned. Children of Rhoda McElwee and John Givens are: 30 i. Samuel3 Givens, born 1862. 31 ii. Adah Givens, born 1864. 32 iii. Mollie Givens, born 1866. 33 iv. John Givens, born 1869. 34 v. Joseph Givens, born 1871. Generation No. 3 29. Mary Emily3 McElwee (James Darby2, Rhoda1 Black) was born 1847 in Missouri, and died in Kansas City MO. She married J F B Stewart 1865. He died in Ralls Co MO. Notes for J F B Stewart: Several of the 12 children of J Stewart and Mary Emily Mills are buried in tje McElwee-Stewart-Carr Cem on the Herche Farm in Pike Co MO Children of Mary McElwee and J Stewart are: 35 i. Sarah M4 Stewart. She married Mr Barton. 36 ii. Mary E Stewart, born 1868. She married Henry Price Davenport; born November 04, 1869. Endnotes 1. Virginia/Wesr Virginia Genealogy Data from Revolutionary War-Pension and Bounty Land Warrent Records, Vol 3, author Patrick G Wardell, Lt Col US Army Ret Heritage Books 1992. 2. 1860 Census PIke Co Missouri, Elizabeth McElwee, 35 of SC was living in household of John Givens and her mother, Rhoda Black, McElwee GIvens, along with the Givens children: Green-24 , b MO -Sarah-25 , b MO -Margaret -29, b SC and Narcissa-4, b SC. Since James MCElwee had been dead 26 years in 1860,,,,,,,,,, Margaret Givens must have been by another wife or Givensson of John Givens. Was Narcissaher daughter or Rhoda Givens child? 3. 1860 Census PIke Co Missouri, Name given as Martha in the 1860 Census. 4. 1880 Census Calumet Twp Pike Co MO, In the 1880 Census , John and children: Sam, Adah, Mollie, John and Joseph were all that was in the household.