If this message came to me I would do look-up like newspaper graduation pictures etc and I would mail or scan it to her as I would any request I get. Newspaper articles and pictures in them seem to me to be public domain. I never question a legality on a look-up. Fact is someone could mail the whole newspaper to her therefore not choosing just the son's portion . She could also call the newspaper office and buy a newspaper to be sent to her without any personal explanation at all . I think this is all that can be done unless a person aquainted with her could respond at their choice and relate news. Maybe someone who knew her when she lived there could respond with news. I was a child of this kind and I certainly could have benifited by casual info from someone.. Coral Babb ______________________________ --------------------

Thanks. The post of the mother in Oregon is something that is the plight of many both mothers and fathers across our Nation has had to deal with. Maybe our law makers (voteing today) need to take a hard look at. It i sad but rewarding to hear of a mothe who gave her soul so that her child could live a "normal" life of not having to be the ball between the parents because some inconsiderate of the child ruled such thoughtlessly for the child. Thank the mother in Orgon for sharing, Thanks to the list mebe for posting it and Thank you owner of AGS for printing A plight on the web that is in the spotlight of the public.........Maybe someone will be encouraged and our laws will change the way we treat our children. Olivia in Ca. ______________________________ --------------------

Sorry, that last email was to go to another list, sorry! Some days are like that!! Judy Wallis White Branches http://www.pionet.net/~jwhite Aitkin County Minnesota http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnaitkin Pipestone County Minnesota http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnpipest ______________________________ --------------------

Top to bottom: Alexander Valentine, born in NC, married to Margaret Coffey. They had 2 sons and don't know of any other siblings, David and Charles Alexander. David married Malinda Benton. Charles married Elizabeth Ann Watson (Betty) Anyone out there have these people in your tree? Wendy ______________________________ --------------------

Judy Do you happen to have birthplaces of either William (1726-1778) or Samuel (1754-1841) NEELY? Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: W. Glenn Davenport <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:16 PM Subject: [SCYORK-L] Henry's, Allen's, and Neely's >I am a new list member. I have quite abit of info on Henry's, Allen's, >and Neely's of York Co., SC. Willing to share. I am looking for anyone >working on Thomas Allen or George Allen, Jr. of York, SC. Their parents >were George and Rebecca Allen, >both born in NC. Their sister, Jane Allen married Jackson Neely Henry. >Judy Davenport > >

Do you have any Tomlinson's, Tomlin's, Thomblinson's or Tumlinson's that have married into your family names? I recognize some of the names being neighbors.

I am a new list member. I have quite abit of info on Henry's, Allen's, and Neely's of York Co., SC. Willing to share. I am looking for anyone working on Thomas Allen or George Allen, Jr. of York, SC. Their parents were George and Rebecca Allen, both born in NC. Their sister, Jane Allen married Jackson Neely Henry. Judy Davenport

Larry, I do not know if I am the one whose name you do not know but if your reference is to the thing I wrote on Marriages, Births and Deaths in South Carolina, there are multiple sources. However, I believe it would all be covered in a book by Theresa M. Hicks, titled SOUTH CAROLINA-A GUIDE FOR GENEALOGISTS, Columbia, SC: Peppercorn Publications, Inc.. 1985. The address of Peppercorn is P. O. Box 11874 Capitol Station, Columbia, S. C. 29211. It is a handy book to have. Louise Pettus

Larry, I hope I'm not discouraging you, but South Carolina didn't start recording marriages until 1911. ---------- > From: Larry D. Hamilton Coats <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCYORK-L] York Co. marriages c. 1790 > Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 12:40 PM > > Does anyone have ready access to York Co. marriages c. 1790? I am trying > to confirm the marriage of a Robert Neely(b. 26 Aug 1768; d. 8 May 1811 > TN)to a Margaret Chissum(1765-1844). This marriage took place, according > to what I have been given, on 28 Sept 1790, but no one has given me the > location of this marriage. I have guessed that if it didn't happen in > York Co, then it had to have occured in Augusta(now Botetourte)Co. Va. > > Which leads me to another related question....anyone researching > Chissums/Chisms/Chisums in York Co. or vicinity? Sure would like to talk > to anyone who is working on this name. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Larry D. Hamilton Coats > P.O. Box 823 > Aspermont, TX 79502 > (940)989-3489 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know your name, but thank you so much. The location is critical to an on-going debate about the Neelys; but what is your source for that info? Published book? Notes? That would be useful info when backing up my argument. Many thanks. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Larry D. Hamilton Coats P.O. Box 823 Aspermont, TX 79502 (940)989-3489 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------

The marriage of Robert Neely and Margaret Chessum took place 9/28/1790, Halifax County, Virginia.

I have a William Barnett mar. to Rohda Campbell in York Co ( also born there) and left with family , when?? went to Giles Co Tnn trhen to Monteau Mo then to Lauderdale Co Al. From there he went with son Robert Sylvanus Armstrong Barnett ( yes he had 2 middle names), to Sherman Co Tx at Farmington/ Sherman. Bothe died there and are bur there. I also would like to know more about the migration anr the Wagon trains that couls have carried these people from one place to the other and when they left York Co S C. Many of my desscendants/ Barnett's/ Adam's/ Spratt's/ Biggers/ others are burried in the Bethel Church Cemetery in York Co S C Maxine in Wa [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: [SCYORK] Re: SCYORK-D Digest V00 #78 In a message dated 6/4/0 9:01:28 PM, [email protected] writes: << Does anyone know of any books, articles, web sites, etc that discuss the > migration from South Carolina to Alabama...? >> Lee, I do not know of any articles on your subject. I do know that there is a Rev. Faires buried in the Wesley Chaple cemetery in Lauderdale County who came to Lauderdale from York Co. SC in 1819. I think he may have brought his flock with him as there are many other Faires around that church. I hope this may help your search. L&S, Bob Davis Vancouver, WA

So many York County researchers have requested information on marriage, birth or death records in SC that I wrote the following for their benefit: NO BIRTH, MARRIAGE, OR DEATH RECORDS UNTIL 1911 Many subscribers [to The Quarterly, a publication of the York County Genealogial and Historical Society] have requested our publishing early York County marriage records. Few are available but we will try to publish those few from time to time. The state of South Carolina did not require the recording of marriages until July 1, 1911. In York County the task of recording marriages was given to the probate judge. In 1911 the probate judge was L. R. Williams. He issued the first York County marriage license to Lathern Brown McFadden and Mollie Albright of Rock Hill. Until July 1, 1950 the record of the marriage was preserved only in the county in which the marriage occurred. There was no state record. After July 1, 1950, the state of South Carolina centralized all of the marriage records by placing them in the Bureau of Vital Statistics, a division of the State Board of Health. The Bureau of Vital Statistics was not created until 1915 and then kept only a record of births and deaths. The state did not require a record of births and deaths before January 1, 1915. For many years it was very easy to get married and impossible to get divorced. South Carolina was the last state in the union to permit divorce. It was not until 1950 that divorces were allowed and not until July 1, 1962, that the Bureau of Vital Statistics began keeping a record of divorces. The largest collection of Marriage and Death Notices is at the South Caroliniana Library on the University of South Carolina campus in Columbia. It is far from being inclusive. It is unfortunate that South Carolina did not follow the example of North Carolina and keep vital statistics from the beginning of statehood.) Newspapers did publish some marriage notices, or "hymeneals" but these account for only a few of the marriages. A few churches, or their pastors, may have kept records but few have been preserved. Historically, South Carolina has treated births, marriages, and deaths as private family matters of no concern to the state unless these events also were pertinent to other matters such as marriage settlements that dealt with titles to certain properties held by the woman. Records of births, marriages and deaths were kept in Charleston by the Church of England and after the Revolution were kept by the Episcopal Church, the successor of the Church of England, until the 1850s. But York County had no Church of England congregation at all and few Episcopalians at any time. The Presbyterian and Methodists seem not to have kept these records in the pre-Civil War period. Flint Hill Baptist Church in Fort Mill township is a notable exception, but, even there, marriages and deaths are recorded sporadically and births not at all. Baptisms were recorded only by name with no age attached. Louise Pettus Larry D. Hamilton Coats wrote: > > Does anyone have ready access to York Co. marriages c. 1790? I am trying > to confirm the marriage of a Robert Neely(b. 26 Aug 1768; d. 8 May 1811 > TN)to a Margaret Chissum(1765-1844). This marriage took place, according > to what I have been given, on 28 Sept 1790, but no one has given me the > location of this marriage. I have guessed that if it didn't happen in > York Co, then it had to have occured in Augusta(now Botetourte)Co. Va. > > Which leads me to another related question....anyone researching > Chissums/Chisms/Chisums in York Co. or vicinity? Sure would like to talk > to anyone who is working on this name. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Larry D. Hamilton Coats > P.O. Box 823 > Aspermont, TX 79502 > (940)989-3489

Does anyone have ready access to York Co. marriages c. 1790? I am trying to confirm the marriage of a Robert Neely(b. 26 Aug 1768; d. 8 May 1811 TN)to a Margaret Chissum(1765-1844). This marriage took place, according to what I have been given, on 28 Sept 1790, but no one has given me the location of this marriage. I have guessed that if it didn't happen in York Co, then it had to have occured in Augusta(now Botetourte)Co. Va. Which leads me to another related question....anyone researching Chissums/Chisms/Chisums in York Co. or vicinity? Sure would like to talk to anyone who is working on this name. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Larry D. Hamilton Coats P.O. Box 823 Aspermont, TX 79502 (940)989-3489 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am also very interested in the Wells testimony as this is my husband's line. Please answer on the list so we can all share the information. And a big thank you to Louise Pettus who is willing to do some research for us. Donna

It would be 24 dollars and 10 cents. What year was the case? For some years there were journals and if so, then the testimony would be in the journal. If you will tell me the year I will look up the SC Archives listing of York County microfilm (the archives has microfilmed all the pre-Civil War York County records and some of the post-Civil War records) and I can tell you if there was a journal. Louise Pettus

Sorry I can't answer your question, but if the Lucinda Wells to whom you refer is Lucinda Gladden Wells, widow of Robert H. Wells, I'm interested in the documents to which you refer. I am familiar with the dispute among his heirs concerning distribution of the estate and would like to have access to a copy of the court case. How did you obtain the copy? [email protected]

1860 York County Census Index Name Post Office Page Umphries, Joseph New Center 421 Underwood, Polly Clay Hill 407 Vaugher, Mary Hopewell 501 Venable, B. New Center 432 Venable, Hugh Meeks Hill 470 Vickers, Elvira Yorkville 438 Walker, Emma Yorkville 366 Walker, F. M. Meeks Hill 471 Walker, Jane Yorkville 436 Walker, John Yorkville 430 Walker, M. J. Yorkville 370 Walker, Sarah Blairsville 466 Walker, Sarah E. Yorkville 430 Walker, William M. Yorkville 369 Wallace, A. M. Zeno 413 Wallace, A. S. Meeks Hill 470 Wallace, A. T. Clarks Ford 496 Wallace, Alexander Yorkville 436 Wallace, Brumfield Ground Hill 510 Wallace, Daniel Hickory Grove 490 Wallace, David Boydton 492 Wallace, David Hickory Grove 490 Wallace, David New Center 425 Wallace, David Zeno 414 Wallace, E. R. J. Fort Mill 405 Wallace, Eda Bullocks Creek 447 Wallace, Ellen A. Clay Hill 417 Wallace, Esther Clarks Fork 508 Wallace, Frank Yorkville 437 Wallace, G. F. Yorkville 416 Wallace, Henry Meeks Hill 468 Wallace, Hugh B. Zeno 418 Wallace, Maj. J. M. Guthriesville 377 Wallace, J. Randolph New Center 424 Wallace, James Clay Hill 417 Wallace, James Meeks Hill 507 Wallace, James H. Ground Hill 473 Wallace, James M. Yorkville 436 Wallace, Jane Hickory Grove 506 Wallace, Jane Meeks Hill 471 Wallace, John Clarks Ford 496 Wallace, Maj. John Tersey 389 Wallace, John Yorkville 438 Wallace, Joseph Clay Hill 417 Wallace, Margaret E. Clay Hill 406 Wallace, Mary A. Zeno 419 Wallace, Miles Boydton 496 Wallace, O. L. Yorkville 367 Wallace, Robert Blairsville 467 Wallace, Robert M. Blairsville 467 Wallace, Sarah Boydton 496 Wallace, Susan Clarks Fork 507 Wallace, Terrena Clay Hill 410 Wallace, William Meeks Hill 471 Wallace, William New Center 425 Ward, William Antioch 486 Ware, James R. Rock Hill 386 Ware, Mary Antioch 484 Warlie, Catherine Sharon Valley 465 Warlie, William Sharon Valley 465 Warmich, A. B. Boydton 493 Warren, Anna New Center 423 Warren, Anna Yorkville 409 Warren, B. J. Fort Mill 403 Warren, Emma Yorkville 365 Warren, Hugh Tersey 390 Warren, James S. Zeno 413 Warren, James T. Clay Hill 417 Warren, Rachel Clay Hill 410 Waters, Edward Taylors Creek 453 Wats, Eliza Rock Hill 386 Wats, George Rock Hill 386 Watson, A. W. Zeno 422 Watson, D. A. A. Clay Hill 406 Watson, J. C. New Center 433 Watson, John L. Clay Hill 406 Watson, Joseph Fort Mill 395 Watson, Marcem Yorkville 409 Watson, Margaret Clay Hill 411 Watson, Margaret Y. Clay Hill 410 Watson, Margret Hickory Grove 505 Watson, Mary Clay Hill 407 Watson, Mary New Center 434 Watson, Samuel L. Zeno 422 Watson, William Taylors Creek 454 Watt, Evans Fort Mill 395 Watt, Nancy Catherine Fort Mill 395 Watts, John Fort Mill 397 Weaver, Adam Yorkville 375 Weaver, Adam Yorkville 372 Weaver, John Antioch 486 Weaver, John T. Sharon Valley 465 Weaver, Rachel Hickory Grove 490 Weaver, Thomas Sharon Valley 465 Webb, David Tersey 390 Webber, Brattan Harmony 481 Webber, Charles G. Harmony 481 Webber, James Harmony 481 Webber, John Harmony 481 Webber, John G. Harmony 481 Webber, Joseph G. Harmony 481 Weiss, J. B. Yorkville 372 Welkins, Nancy Yorkville 373 Wells, Robert Clarks Ford 498 West, Sarah Taylors Creek 459 Westbrook, John Taylors Creek 453 Westbrook, S. G. Taylors Creek 453 Westbrooks, Charles Rock Hill 387 Westmarch, Hartwell Sharon Valley 464 Westmoreland, Peterson Boydton 496 Westmoreland, Peterson Hickory Grove 490 Westmoreland, W. D. Clarks Ford 498 Wheeler, B. T. Yorkville 371 Wherry, Andrew Taylors Creek 454 Wherry, Elizabeth Taylors Creek 453 Wherry, Margaret Coats Tavern 457 Wherry, Thomas Taylors Creek 461 Whibrider, J. H. Rock Hill 384 Whisanant, Alvin Clarks Ford 497 Whisanant, Aron W. Antioch 486 Whisanant, Elizabeth Boydton 486 Whisanant, Gros Boydton 487 Whisanant, Henderson New House 478 Whisanant, John N. Boydton 487 Whisanant, Joseph Antioch 485 Whisanant, Martha Boydton 488 Whisanant, William Boydton 486 Whisenant, Davidson Antioch 484 Whisenant, Ross Antioch 485 Whisenant, Rufus Antioch 484 Whisenhunt, Calvin Hickory Grove 506 Whit, Mont Yorkville 366 Whitaker, Emily Meeks Hill 468 Whitaker, Marvin Yorkville 430 Whitaker, William B. Yorkville 430 White, Allen Clarks Fork 509 White, Ann Rock Hill 386 White, Archibald Coats Tavern 462 White, Benjamin Coats Tavern 459 White, Henry Boydton 492 White, Henry W. New House 479 White, Hugh M. Fort Mill 403 White, Isam Boydton 491 White, J. J. Fort Mill 395 White, James Clarks Fork 509 White, John Bullocks Creek 447 White, John Clarks Ford 498 White, John M. Fort Mill 403 White, Joseph T. Fort Mill 404 White, M. Sandersville 446 White, R. P. Taylors Creek 454 White, Sallie Boydton 492 White, Thomas Coats Tavern 458 White, William Blairsville 452 White, William Bullocks Creek 447 White, William Coats Tavern 458 White, William Yorkville 430 White, Willis New House 476 Whiterider, Eliza Clay Hill 411 Whiterider, M. M. Yorkville 368 Whiterider, Thomas New Center 425 Whitesides, Calvin Coats Tavern 428 Whitesides, John Meeks Hill 470 Whitesides, John Sharon Valley 465 Whitesides, John B. Meeks Hill 507 Whitesides, John T. Hopewell 501 Whitesides, Joseph M. Taylors Creek 453 Whitesides, Martha Meeks Hill 508 Whitesides, Meek Hickory Grove 506 Whitesides, Robert Hickory Grove 505 Whitesides, Robin Clarks Ford 496 Whitesides, Rufus Hickory Grove 506 Whitesides, Thomas Hickory Grove 489 Whitesides, Thomas Meeks Hill 508 Whitesides, Thomas Yorkville 473 Whitesides, Z. P. Meeks Hill 471 Whitkaer, D. A. Yorkville 430 Wier, James W. Meeks Hill 470 Wiles, Hanah Clay Hill 417 Wiles, Henry Meeks Hill 468 Wiles, John J. Rock Hill 387 Wiley, William Sharon Valley 463 Wilkerson, Charles E. Meeks Hill 468 Wilkerson, Margaret S. Meeks Hill 470 Wilkinson, H. E. Bullocks Creek 449 Wilkison, Lucinda Hopewell 504 Willfong, Adda Taylors Creek 460 Willfong, Daniel E. Taylors Creek 460 Williams, B. F. Bullocks Creek 448 Williams, Dan C. Yorkville 366 Williams, Daniel Yorkville 474 Williams, Edgar Yorkville 367 Williams, Mrs. G. A. Yorkville 376 Williams, George Yorkville 370 Williams, George Yorkville 371 Williams, Hugh Meeks Hill 472 Williams, James Guthriesville 377 Williams, James Yorkville 376 Williams, James D. Rock Hill 386 Williams, James M. Yorkville 367 Williams, Jenet Clay Hill 417 Williams, John Sandersville 446 Williams, M. Taylors Creek 456 Williams, Margaret New Center 433 Williams, Martha Bullocks Creek 448 Williams, Mary Yorkville 365 Williams, Mary Yorkville 366 Williams, P. W. Sandersville 440 Williams, S. H. Yorkville 374 Williams, Thomas G. Mcconelsville 440 Williams, William B. Yorkville 371 Williamson, Harvey Rock Hill 382 Williamson, John Rock Hill 385 Williamson, Sylvanus Guthriesville 378 Williamson, W. B. Yorkville 371 Williford, James M. Taylors Creek 455 Williford, William Taylors Creek 455 Willson, Bill Yorkville 409 Willson, George New House 476 Willson, Wallace Ground Hill 510 Wilson, Charles New Center 426 Wilson, Edwin New Center 432 Wilson, Elmina Coats Tavern 428 Wilson, Fanny Yorkville 429 Wilson, H. W. Clay Hill 407 Wilson, Hamilton New House 478 Wilson, J. J. New Center 424 Wilson, J. Louis New House 478 Wilson, James Clay Hill 410 Wilson, Jim Yorkville 429 Wilson, John Fort Mill 400 Wilson, John New House 476 Wilson, John Yorkville 409 Wilson, John C. Rock Hill 384 Wilson, John J. Clay Hill 415 Wilson, Dr. John R. Fort Mill 404 Wilson, Lawrence Guthriesville 377 Wilson, Lewis Fort Mill 400 Wilson, Lila Mcconelsville 440 Wilson, Liza Yorkville 370 Wilson, Lizza Guthriesville 377 Wilson, Maria L. Yorkville 435 Wilson, Mary Yorkville 429 Wilson, Mary Yorkville 462 Wilson, Mary K. Fort Mill 396 Wilson, Nancy New House 479 Wilson, Nancy E. Fort Mill 402 Wilson, Newton Zeno 422 Wilson, Peter Yorkville 367 Wilson, R. S. Fort Mill 404 Wilson, R. W. Clay Hill 415 Wilson, Rachel Yorkville 409 Wilson, Ransler Boydton 487 Wilson, Robert M. Zeno 414 Wilson, S. L. New Center 425 Wilson, Sarah Blairsville 451 Wilson, Sarah Clay Hill 415 Wilson, W. B. Yorkville 374 Wilson, William Yorkville 409 Wilson, William A. H. Yorkville 416 Wilson, William J. Blairsville 451 Wilson, William J. New Center 422 Wings, Monroe Boydton 491 Wisheit, Jackson Hickory Grove 490 Withers, Allen Clarks Fork 509 Withers, Jefferson Fort Mill 396 Withers, John N. Yorkville 374 Withers, John T. Fort Mill 396 Withers, John W. Yorkville 372 Withers, R. B. Harmony 481 Withers, T. B. Fort Mill 403 Witherspoon, Ann Yorkville 366 Wood, Ann Bethany 499 Wood, Joseph Clarks Ford 497 Wood, Mary Harmony 482 Wood, Rachel Zeno 418 Wood, Wilburn Clay Hill 410 Wood, William Clay Hill 417 Wood, William Yorkville 429 Woods, A. Yorkville 369 Woods, C. D. Clay Hill 411 Woods, Thomas Rock Hill 386 Woodward, Isabella Clarks Ford 496 Workman, James Rock Hill 388 Workman, John Taylors Creek 453 Workman, John F. Rock Hill 388 Workman, Rebecca J. Rock Hill 388 Workman, Reece W. Rock Hill 388 Workman, Rober Tp. Taylors Creek 453 Workman, Robert Rock Hill 388 Workman, William A. Rock Hill 388 Wormic, James R. Rock Hill 385 Yearwood, W. Yorkville 430 Young, James D. Harmony 480 Young, John, Sr. Harmony 480 Young, Peggy A. Yorkville 430 Young, W. P. Coats Tavern 458 Young, Zimri Coats Tavern 427 Youngblood, J. W. Yorkville 415 Youngblood, Samuel C. Sandersville 446 Youngblood, Thomas W.Clay Hill 406 Youngblood, William O. Clay Hill 406 Zurcher, John M. Yorkville 368 The End

I have just received copies of a court case from the York County Court of Common Pleas, for Lucinda Wells and children. In it they indicate that the children received $24.10 for each share. Is this 24 dollars and ten cents, 24 thousand dollars and ten cents or 2 thousand, 4 hundred dollars and ten cents? Also the case refers to testimony given, but it is not included in the case. Any ideas where I could get the testimony? Thank you for any help.

-----Original Message----- From: Maxine Baldwin Westerfield <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 8:49 PM Subject: Fw: [SCYORK-L] Indianland >My Barnett also ended up mar to a direct line descendant of Jonnathon Barret >and these Barnett's came from York Co S C My5th gr grandfather was Thomas >barnett b av bt 1767 in York Co SC and he and his wife are bur. in the >Bethel Church yard Cem there in York Co by the Bethel Church. They d in >early befor I think 1850's. > Maxine I have an Elizabeth Barnett (1765-1841) in York Co, and am looking for her parents. They may be Robert Barnett and Hannah Herron. Do they fit with your family? Thanks, John