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Hi Imogene, James Faires was my gggg grandfather he lived around Allison's Creek and Catawba River, he had a brother named Alexander b-abt1740 and died 1824 in York Co. Alexander had a son named Thomas Faires unknown dob. I wish I could be more help but I do not know anymore nor do I have Isbil Ferris in my documents. The name has several spellings I have found my gggg grandfathers name spelled Farris, Faris,Farriss etc. I have never found it spelled Pharris, or any other spelling with a "P" I am very interested in what the 99 year lease was all about. Is there any documentation of the leases? Thank You, Imogene ..........bye the way I have kinfolk in Elkland and other parts of Dallas and Greene Co. I also have a g-aunt Elva Smith who lives in Springfield. Imogene Bennett wrote: > I want to thank Louise Pettus for posting the information in regard to the > lack of any plats of land in the Catawba Indian Lands. I had also wondered > the same question. > > Can anyone help me with puzzling out a DRENNAN - HARRISON - FARIES question? > > I have an ancestor and his brother who each received one of those 99-year > leases. My ancestor, John DRENNAN, moved from York Co SC to Wilson Co TN > between 1803-1805. In 1787, his land joined Thomas DRENNAN, Alexander > FARIES, John ROBINSON, and James ROBINSON. This was on Allison's Creek and > Catawba River. I don't know who later owned his land. > > John's brother, Thomas DRENNAN, died in York County. In 1787, his land > joined John DRENNAN and Isaac FERRIS. His 1802 will gave equal shares to > two (?sons/stepsons?) -- one to receive the lower end of the tract and the > other the upper end of the tract. > > I've never been able to figure for sure whether Thomas DRENNAN had natural > children or if the two mentioned in his will were sons, stepsons, or even > perhaps children of friends. He does not call either mother his wife, nor > does he bequeath to any wife. He made bequests to a brother, a nephew, and > a support of corn to a female cousin. His will reads, "...my son Thomas > DRENNAN, otherwise called Thomas FARRIS, son of Isbil FARRIS ..." and "my > son, William DRENNAN, otherwise called William HARRISON, son of Marget > HARRISON ..." > > Can anyone identify Isbil FARRIS/FARIES or Marget HARRISON? Were these > maiden names or were they widows? Did Thomas DRENNAN marry these ladies or > did he bequeath to their sons for some special reason? > > I hope Isbil or Marget might fit into someone's family who reads this > message. If they do, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank you in > advance. > > Imogene Bennett > Springfield, MO > [email protected]

Imogene Bennett has written: >Can anyone help me with puzzling out a DRENNAN - HARRISON - FARIES question? > >I have an ancestor and his brother who each received one of those 99-year >leases. My ancestor, John DRENNAN, moved from York Co SC to Wilson Co TN >between 1803-1805. In 1787, his land joined Thomas DRENNAN, Alexander >FARIES, John ROBINSON, and James ROBINSON. This was on Allison's Creek and >Catawba River. I don't know who later owned his land. > >John's brother, Thomas DRENNAN, died in York County. In 1787, his land >joined John DRENNAN and Isaac FERRIS. His 1802 will gave equal shares to >two (?sons/stepsons?) -- one to receive the lower end of the tract and the >other the upper end of the tract. > >I've never been able to figure for sure whether Thomas DRENNAN had natural >children or if the two mentioned in his will were sons, stepsons, or even >perhaps children of friends. He does not call either mother his wife, nor >does he bequeath to any wife. He made bequests to a brother, a nephew, and >a support of corn to a female cousin. His will reads, "...my son Thomas >DRENNAN, otherwise called Thomas FARRIS, son of Isbil FARRIS ..." and "my >son, William DRENNAN, otherwise called William HARRISON, son of Marget >HARRISON ..." > >Can anyone identify Isbil FARRIS/FARIES or Marget HARRISON? Were these >maiden names or were they widows? Did Thomas DRENNAN marry these ladies or >did he bequeath to their sons for some special reason? > >I hope Isbil or Marget might fit into someone's family who reads this >message. If they do, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank you in >advance. > >Imogene Bennett >Springfield, MO >[email protected] Imogene, I would suggest that you join the Farris-L. Hopefully someone on our mailing list will be able to help you. We have over 200 researchers who are subscribed to the list, many of whom research the Farris families in York County, SC (and all variations of spelling). To join the list, send an e-mail to: [email protected] In the body of the message, type ONLY: SUBSCRIBE Thanks! Wanda Rabb (researching Rabb (NC/SC), Penix (NC), Bradshaw (VA>NC), (Gantt (NC), Nix, Robertson, Wilson, Conner, Harris (Rutherford Co.,NC), Laws(Yancey, Rutherford Co., NC), Edwards,Kelly (Yancey Co.,NC), Causby, Patton(Burke/McDowell Co., NC) Paxton(Union Co., NC >Lancaster, SC), Purviance (NC), Farris & Morris (York Co., SC) Lovelace, Hamrick, Green and McSwain (Cleveland Co., NC), Ledford, Black(Cleveland or Rutherford Co., NC), Towery (Cleveland or Lincoln Co., NC) Listmanager for CAUSBY-L, FARRIS-L, LAWS-L, NIX-L, PAXTON-L, PURVIANCE-L, RABB-L Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/1882/

I want to thank Louise Pettus for posting the information in regard to the lack of any plats of land in the Catawba Indian Lands. I had also wondered the same question. Can anyone help me with puzzling out a DRENNAN - HARRISON - FARIES question? I have an ancestor and his brother who each received one of those 99-year leases. My ancestor, John DRENNAN, moved from York Co SC to Wilson Co TN between 1803-1805. In 1787, his land joined Thomas DRENNAN, Alexander FARIES, John ROBINSON, and James ROBINSON. This was on Allison's Creek and Catawba River. I don't know who later owned his land. John's brother, Thomas DRENNAN, died in York County. In 1787, his land joined John DRENNAN and Isaac FERRIS. His 1802 will gave equal shares to two (?sons/stepsons?) -- one to receive the lower end of the tract and the other the upper end of the tract. I've never been able to figure for sure whether Thomas DRENNAN had natural children or if the two mentioned in his will were sons, stepsons, or even perhaps children of friends. He does not call either mother his wife, nor does he bequeath to any wife. He made bequests to a brother, a nephew, and a support of corn to a female cousin. His will reads, "...my son Thomas DRENNAN, otherwise called Thomas FARRIS, son of Isbil FARRIS ..." and "my son, William DRENNAN, otherwise called William HARRISON, son of Marget HARRISON ..." Can anyone identify Isbil FARRIS/FARIES or Marget HARRISON? Were these maiden names or were they widows? Did Thomas DRENNAN marry these ladies or did he bequeath to their sons for some special reason? I hope Isbil or Marget might fit into someone's family who reads this message. If they do, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank you in advance. Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO [email protected]

Yet another: http://members.tripod.com/mwyckoff/index.html

Yet another excellent Civil War site that includes York County Regiments http://members.tripod.com/mwyckoff/infan.html

South Carolina in the civil war, includes info on the 5th SCV York County http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/3873/b/scmp.html

Gary, No one has ever platted the leases that early for several reasons: (1) the plats were recorded, with only a handful of exceptions, in record books supervised by state-appointed commissioners. They were not recorded in the courthouse (again, a very few exceptions). The first book was lost by 1831; it covered the years 1785-1810. Then there were two books, one for the east side of the Catawba river and one for the west side. The book on the west side was kept by Josina Garrison and he testified in the 1860s that the book was lost (believed to have been lost when his house burned in the 1850s) so that leaves only one book and that book is in private hands. (2) there were leases turned in to the state of S. C. by the leaseholders following the Nation Ford Treaty of 1840 in order to get state titles to replace leases. But only 128 were turned in (the state allowed tax receipts to also be used) out of 508 surveys made. These 128 leases were not accessioned for more than 140 years. I understand they were in boxes in the basement of the State Archives when they were catalogued as part of the evidence in the suit of the Catawba Indians against the State of South Carolina ca. 1980. But, the accessioner listed them by the last holder of the lease not the orginal holder. No one, as far as I know, has ever ferreted out original holders. And, most of the leases do not have a plat attached but only a description of the number of acres, the physical description of the location which may be no more than the names of the adjoining leaseholders. I am currently writing a book on the leaseholding system and attempting to locate all of the leaseholders that I can. I have found hundreds of leaseholders and intend to include all I find and information about each of them but the publication date is at least two years off. I am interested in your James McCall and agree that he was most likely ( I would say 95 per cent sure) that he lived on the west side of the river. He is not among the known leaseholders on the east side BUT his name would have been associated with a lease only up to 1802 and all those records were lost. The Winthrop University Archives has a map of the west side as it appeared in 1840 but nothing before that time in the form of a map. Do you have the date that James McCall arrived in the Catawba Indian Land? I would appreciate knowing that. The 640 acres (one mile square) makes him one of the larger leaseholders. He is not listed in Thomas Blumers BIBLIOGRAPHY OF THE CATAWBA but whoever held the same land in 1840 would be but McCall's tract was most likely subdivided several times. My address is Louise Pettus, 708 Harrell St, Rock Hill, SC 29730. Gary E. Young wrote: > > Has anyone tried to plat the early leases within the Indian Land? Three > townships in York Co seemed to consist mainly of these leased lands. My > ancestor, James MCCALL, died in 1797 leaving 640 acres of Indian Land on > which he had presumably lived. His estate was appraised by Jno HUTCHISON, > Jesse MILLER, and Thos HUTCHISON, who might have been neighbors? The land > was apparently disposed of about 1801. Though the land could theoretically > have been on either side of the Catawba River, James was buried at > Ebenezer Churchyard so I suppose it is more likely the land was on the west > side of the River. Any assistance in this matter will be appreciated. > Gary E. Young > 128 S. Commerce > Centreville, MD 21617 > [email protected]

Has anyone tried to plat the early leases within the Indian Land? Three townships in York Co seemed to consist mainly of these leased lands. My ancestor, James MCCALL, died in 1797 leaving 640 acres of Indian Land on which he had presumably lived. His estate was appraised by Jno HUTCHISON, Jesse MILLER, and Thos HUTCHISON, who might have been neighbors? The land was apparently disposed of about 1801. Though the land could theoretically have been on either side of the Catawba River, James was buried at Ebenezer Churchyard so I suppose it is more likely the land was on the west side of the River. Any assistance in this matter will be appreciated. Gary E. Young 128 S. Commerce Centreville, MD 21617 [email protected]

I am looking for information on AUGUSTUS PACE, who was 4 years old in the 1870 Mecklenburg, NC census, thus he was born around 1876. In 1898 he was living in Fort Mill, South Carolina (York Co), according to the estate records of his father YOUNG PACE (b.1832 in Guilford Co., NC). Young Pace had been apprenticed as an orphan in Guilford and later moved to Mecklenburg Co., NC, where he married NANCY WALLS, who is believed to have died there in 1888 at age 44, thus born in 1842. It is believed that NEEDHAM PACE was the brother of this YOUNG PACE, as they migrated together from Guilford to Mecklenburg Co., NC, taking with them an elderly ZILPHA/ZETHLA PACE (b.1798) and her retarded son DAVID. NEEDHAM PACE was married to MARY MARGARET MYERS of Mecklenburg NC and their children were Laura, Irvin, Sallie. The known siblings of AUGUSTUS PACE were CHARLES A.(c.1859), ABNER (c.1861-1900), MARY, FANNIE, and possibly a JOHN PACE. All of these were born in Mecklenburg Co., NC, and in 1898 all were still in that county of NC except for AUGUSTUS PACE who was living in Fort Mill, SC. I believe this family was related to my older ABNER PACE (b.1821-22-d.aft. 1880) who had also been apprenticed as an orphan in 1837 in Guilford Co., NC. This older Abner later moved to Rowan Co., NC, after having married in 1843 JULIA ANN REED (B.1823-1911) in Guilford. Abner Pace was a harness/carriage maker in Rowan, NC. His only child was JOHN FLETCHER PACE (1844-1901Rowan,NC), who was Police Chief of Salisbury, NC, at his death. If anyone knows anything about AUGUSTUS PACE and family, please contact me. Betty Pace Norfolk, VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I am searching for information on D. Miles Gilmore. He was born around 1821. He left Horry County sometime after 1860 to destinations unknown. Any information appreciated. Thanks, Sonja

Linda,Dont know any info on these York Co.,S.C. Relatives of yours James Kimbrell ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 2:09 PM Subject: [SCYORK-L] McClain Search >

Sorry,Can't help with these from York Co.,S.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:18 PM Subject: [SCYORK-L] SUMMERFORD, William born 1834 in York County, South Carolina

Looking for any information on William SUMMERFORD born 1834 in York County, South Carolina. He went to the Civil War and was never heard from again. He married Mary CHUMLEY or CHUMBLEY in 1853. Mary was born Oct.ber 4, 1838 in Georgia and died March 11, 1906. She is buried in Jackson County, Alabama. William and Mary SUMMERFORD had the following children, Georgia SUMMERFORD (married William G. MURPHREE), Mary J. "Molly" SUMMERFORD (married W.G. MURPHREE's brother, Tip MURPHREE), John MURPHREE, and Frank MURPHREE. Any other information on these families would be greatly appreciated. Phoebe

I am searching for my McClain ancestry My gg grandfather was Jonathan Sutton McClain, Fairfield Cty, SC b 5/19/1817, d 1/13/1897 He married Levicia Leek Dunn Dowling York, SC 4/24/1856, b 11/1824, d 10/12/1911. At some time they moved to Catoosa Cty, GA. Their children were Joseph Adolphus b 3/11/1857, Robert E b 10/29/1858, Thomas Arron b 9/23/1860 d 18/61, Lou Annie b 9/?, Charles Walter b 1/14/1863, Richard Lee b 9/5/1865, William Washington b 12/1866 and David Coleman b 11/12/1868. If any one has any information I would appreciate it very much. Thank you, Linda

Right now Johnson Island is the news here in Ohio. There is a housing developer who has bought a lot of the property to build houses. A historical society has been using young people to scan the island for any civil war artifacts. They are talking about keeping a part of the island as a historical site. Not long ago, there was litigation over Buffington Island and the historical society lost. Buffington was the site of a John Hunt Morgan battle. If this keeps up, there will be very few of the civil war battlegrounds or prison sites remaining. -----Original Message----- From: R. E. Lee <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:15 AM Subject: [SCYORK-L] Re: Johnson's Island Prison, Ohio >I noticed a brief description of this prison in a recent listing. For those >wishing more information, there are three books on the subject: > "Narrative of Prison Life at Baltimore and Johnson's Island, Ohio" 1917. >By Shepherd, Henry E, M.A., LLD > "Ohio's Military Prisons in the Civil War," 1964. By Shriver, Phillip R. & >Breen, Donald J. > "Yankee Rebel, The Civil War Journal of Edmund DeWitt Patterson." By >Patterson, Edmund DeWitt, 1866 >I found them very informative. >Bob >

I noticed a brief description of this prison in a recent listing. For those wishing more information, there are three books on the subject: "Narrative of Prison Life at Baltimore and Johnson's Island, Ohio" 1917. By Shepherd, Henry E, M.A., LLD "Ohio's Military Prisons in the Civil War," 1964. By Shriver, Phillip R. & Breen, Donald J. "Yankee Rebel, The Civil War Journal of Edmund DeWitt Patterson." By Patterson, Edmund DeWitt, 1866 I found them very informative. Bob

I would appreciate any information on the following family: William Wood, born about 1793 in York County SC. Married a Mary Magdalena Ruppe (father supposedly a Martin Roop) born about 1800 in Surry County NC. Children (all born in Surry County NC): 1. Thomas Wood, born 1825 2. Henry Wood, born 1827 3. Williamson Wood, born 1829 4. William Wood, born 1831 5. James Wood, born 1837 In 1790, there were three Wood heads of households enumerated in York County SC Census, all in the Camden District: John Wood (p 194) Penuel Wood (p 192) NOTE: Depending upon the source, he is also known as Peter Thomas Wood (p 198) Between 1800 and 1810, these three seem to float around Western SC mostly in Spartanburg County. However by 1820, they appear to have left SC and show up enumerated in the 1820 Surry County NC Census: John Wood (p 676) Peter Wood (p 668) Thomas Wood (p 736) What I would like to determine is exactly which of the three (John, Peter or Penuel, or perhaps Thomas) is the father of the William who married Mary Magdelena. Thanks for any help. Brett F. Woods Santa Fe, New Mexico

Hi Jim, I am a descendant ofChief Haigler's dau Jarman "Jar Fly" who mar. Jonathon Barrett who lived at the foot of BARRETTS MT> on the Yadkin clos e to the Catawba area. Also Samuel Oxford Jr that had a ferry to cross at Oxford's bend was my5th Gr grandfather. His wife was Bathsheba Barrett dau of Jarmon and Jonathon Barrett. The Mt was names for him. The catawba's were friends with the whites. Maxine Baldwin in Roy, Wa [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jim McDonald <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 6:38 PM Subject: [SCYORK-L] Indianland >I forgot to mention that the area I tried to describe in my previous e-mail >was part of the Catawba Indian Reservation which has been in the local news >off and on for many years because the Catawbas were denied their rights to >the land that they were promised. >Jim >

Johnson Island is in Lake Erie in the state of Ohio. Confederate Officers were held prisoner there. They were given one blanket and if you have ever spent a winter night in Ohio you know that is not enough! Some of these prisoners became "galvanized" yankees. They agreed to go out west and not return to the South and fight for the South if they were freed from the yankee prisons. Nancy in SC