I just thought you might be interestd in knowing that the main RootsWeb site is down today and that there are alternate gateways that can be used to get there. Your list mom, Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Census [mailto:census@ev1.net] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:26 PM To: CENSUS-ANNOUNCE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SERVER UPGRADING — SERVERS TEMPORARILY DOWN 07/05/2002 From: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi SERVER UPGRADING — SERVERS TEMPORARILY DOWN To improve site performance, RootsWeb is upgrading its servers. As a result there may be times when you will be unable to access portions of the site. Feel free to continue your research using other resources at RootsWeb.com or Ancestry.com The following resources are disabled and/or may not be working as they normally would today (Friday): any websites that begin with www.rootsweb.com. During this transition, you can access RootsWeb's home page at: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/home/ Maggie http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/mindex.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/02 ==== CENSUS-ANNOUNCE Mailing List ==== Homepage URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~census A copy of every transcription is sent to the USGenWeb Archives for upload. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

As we approach the fourth of July, I think this site will get everybody in the right mood. Wait until you have a few minutes because it is sl-o-o-ow to load but worth it! www.ourchristiannation.org/july4th.htm Your list mom, Mickey Mildred "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 mailto:mfournier@atlantic.net

HI, I am new to the list. I am researching Richard Posey in SC. This is not the Richard of Abbeville. However my Richard was born November 5 1770 in SC. He is found in 1790, 1800, and 1810 in Orangeburg District. I am trying to determine who his father was. I noticed that Benjamin Posey died in Union Co., in 1804 and left a will. Does anyone have access to the Union County Probate Court roll 2553 Box 4 Pkg 17 frames 755-769? I would appreciate it so much if anyone can help me. Thanks for any and all help. Richard Posey has been my brick wall for years and I would just love to knock that wall down. Helen in AL

Hello Folks, Pardon me for the cross posting if you receive more than one copy of this. Do you have more than one of my surnames for the dates in the indicated areas? If so, please contact me. BLAKE 1819 Whitley Co KY, 1830-1860 Marshall Co AL CRAIG 1819 SC, 1840-1870 Marshall Co AL HAMES 1760 VA, 1790 SC (Pendleton, Union), 1820 GA (Hall, Murray) JACQUES/JAQUISH/JAGARSH/JAGNISH 1840-1860 Roane Co TN, 1870-1880 Marshall Co AL JOHNSON 1824 GA, 1850-1900 Jefferson Co AL KING 1760-1830 SC KRUGG 1739 Germany, 1757-1780 VA MATHIS 1825 NC, 1840-1860 Roane Co TN WADE 1726-1780 VA, 1790 Pendleton Dist. SC, 1810-1827 GA (Hall, Gwinnett), 1830-1920s AL (1830 Jackson, 1840 Morgan, 1850-1870 Marshall, 1880 Jackson, 1890-1920s Jefferson) WATERS/WATTERS 1840-1860 Marshall Co AL WHALEN 1852-1899 AL (Tallpoosa, Talladega, Jefferson) WHITAKER 1819 SC, 1830-1860 Marshall Co AL Thank you very much. Eldon mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com Researching: WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL

Hi Gay Beam, I am a descendant of THOMAS THOMAS, b: VA, abt 1771 and ended up in Anderson Co., SC. He is my ggg grandfather. This is my father's line, however, not his name line. My line is: 1. My father: Earl D. Robertson, b: TX, 1890 2. My gfather: William A. Robertson, b: GA, 1848 My gmother: Nancy Elizabeth Palmer, b: Anderson Co., SC, 1853 3. My g grandparents thru Nancy Elizabeth Palmer: f: James W. Palmer, b: abt 1832 (died in Civil War) m: Robecca ___?___ unknown (The name Palmer/Palmore are used interchangeably) 4. My gg grandparents thru James W. Palmer: f: Chandler Palmer, b: abt 1802 m: Martha THOMAS, b: abt 1804 5. My ggg grandparents thru MARTHA THOMAS: f: THOMAS THOMAS, b: VA, abt 1771 m: SARAH THOMAS, b: VA, abt 1888 * * Since there is an age difference of 17 years, this may be THOMAS THOMAS' second wife. The information of the 1850 Anderson Co., SC census reflects this: THOMAS THOMAS, b: VA, age 79 (or 1771) w: Sarah THOMAS, b: VA, age 62 (or 1788) Nancy THOMAS, b: GA, age 37 (or 1813) Mary Ann THOMAS, b: SC, age 30 (or 1820) Leroy THOMAS, b: SC, age 22, (or 1828) Frances THOMAS, b: SC, age 20 (or 1830) Harriet THOMAS, b: SC, age 5 (or 1845) Aleina PALMORE, b: SC, age 8 (or 1842) 8 Aleina is a granddaughter of THOMAS and SARAH THOMAS, and a daughter of Chandler and Martha THOMAS Palmer/Palmore. She is picked up in both the Palmore and THOMAS census in 1850. Evidently, she is staying with grandparents at time the census was taken. She is the only girl with 8 Palmore brothers and by then Martha Thomas Palmore is a widow. I deduce that she stays with grandparents where there are some female relatives. Since THOMAS THOMAS is an old man of 79 by the 1850 census, I believe some of the younger children are grandchildren.....possibly Nancy (age 39) is a widow and living with aged parents. Many of the children are pretty old to be still living at home....(or else there is a house full of "old maids" since it was common for girls to marry from age 16 on....sometimes a little earlier. This may not add much to what you are asking for but this is the first time that I have seen a query about THOMAS THOMAS (which is a unique name). I found him in the 1800 and 1810 Union Co., SC, census. It seems that I found him later in another SC County census, but I do not have the census records before me at the present time. One fact that I just realized that would give a clue is that Nancy THOMAS is reflected b. in GA in 1813, and the other children b. in SC. I would like to know how you fit into THOMAS THOMAS' family. We must be kin. I am happy to know that you have acquired information that he was buried at the Robert's Presbyterian Church. Is there any way I could get records of that? This is a bit of information that I have learned through reading of the people that settled in that area that may or may not be of significance. My Palmers/Palmores were from VA with an English background. They are of the Methodist/Episcopal faith, an extension of the Anglican Church. There were many Scots (Highland Scots) that settled in that area and also Scotch Irish (who were really Lowland Scots who were transplanted in the Ulster area of Ireland and lived there abt 100 yrs prior to resettling in America, however, retained their strong Presbyterian faith). Both the Scots and Scotch Irish who settled in that area were usually staunch Presbyterians. This may give a clue to the heritage of THOMAS THOMAS. I am happy to finally find someone who is researching THOMAS THOMAS' line. My problem that influences my laying this line aside was that I have 3 different families of THOMASs that seem to have gone through this region, but settled in GA or elsewhere. THOMAS THOMAS stayed there. In fact, I believe the 1870 census (would be mistaken as no records are before me at this time.) reflects that he is living alone, an old man, in either Anderson Co., near the community of Townville, or in Oconee Co., SC (which was created from Anderson Co. after the Civil War), but was also near Townville, where my Palmer/Palmore family lived. Please let me hear from you or anyone who may recognize any of this information as being part of their ancestors. Betty

This is a wonderful story Faye. I too have memories such as these. I call them "Precious Memories." Jim. At 03:34 PM 6/17/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, >I just had to send my "two cents worth" of information. > A few years ago, about 4, I accompanied my father to the only grist mill > that was working at the time in Alabama. We carried corn that he had > raised on his farm and had it ground into meal. Of course I took my > camera and made pictures of Dad carrying the sacks of corn into the mill > to be ground, pictures of the mill working, etc. Dad talked all the way > there and back about his experience as a young boy taking the grain to > mill every week or so to have the family's needs met. He rode a mule and > tied the grain onto the back of the saddle and this trip would take him > the entire day. Very interesting (then and now) to see this process. I > received some valuable information for my family research on that trip. >Faye

Hello Gay, Try looking at rootweb or worldconnect at the family tree sites for a Tristom Thomas. I am not at home so I can not give you the links to these pages, but if you can not locate them let me know and I will send you the links once I get home. I will be home next week. Anyway.... in this family tree there is a listing for Thomas Thomas as one of Tristom Thomas' descendants. This tree is very detailed on this Thomas line, and with active researchers. I think if this is your Thomas you will be amaized at what you find!! happy hunting, Lana --- GBeam@aol.com wrote: > Hi Lana > The Thomas THOMAS listed on the Union co.SC 1800 & 1810 census,can > anyone > share information with me on him. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

My ancestor Leonard Smith who died ca 1829 operated a grist mill in Union Co. during the Rev. War. It is said he furnished his services free to the Rev. militia and they posted guards in the area to keep the loyalist from raiding his mill. He was married to Nancy Littlefield and has many descendants still living in and around Union Co. Robert Fleet Smith III Victoria, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye S. Thompson" <flthom@mindspring.com> To: <SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: [SCUNION] grist mills > Hello, > I just had to send my "two cents worth" of information. > > A few years ago, about 4, I accompanied my father to the only grist mill that was working at the time in Alabama. We carried corn that he had raised on his farm and had it ground into meal. Of course I took my camera and made pictures of Dad carrying the sacks of corn into the mill to be ground, pictures of the mill working, etc. Dad talked all the way there and back about his experience as a young boy taking the grain to mill every week or so to have the family's needs met. He rode a mule and tied the grain onto the back of the saddle and this trip would take him the entire day. Very interesting (then and now) to see this process. I received some valuable information for my family research on that trip. > > Faye > > > ==== SCUNION Mailing List ==== > Union Co. Historical Foundation > P.O. Box 220 > Union, SC 29379 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello, I just had to send my "two cents worth" of information. A few years ago, about 4, I accompanied my father to the only grist mill that was working at the time in Alabama. We carried corn that he had raised on his farm and had it ground into meal. Of course I took my camera and made pictures of Dad carrying the sacks of corn into the mill to be ground, pictures of the mill working, etc. Dad talked all the way there and back about his experience as a young boy taking the grain to mill every week or so to have the family's needs met. He rode a mule and tied the grain onto the back of the saddle and this trip would take him the entire day. Very interesting (then and now) to see this process. I received some valuable information for my family research on that trip. Faye

Hi Lana The Thomas THOMAS listed on the Union co.SC 1800 & 1810 census,can anyone share information with me on him. I think there is a Thomas THOMAS buried at Robert's Presbyterian Church in Anderson SC. Thanks for any help Gay Stewart Beam

Oh, absolutely, it's research. And, as everybody knows, there are no calories in research! Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laroxstew@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 2:24 PM To: SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCUNION] Union Co/Enoree River mills I intend to make a trip out there (I live in Arizona) so I'll have to make a point to stop and do this, it sounds yummy. And besides, it's in the name of research right!?! :) ~LauraS > Unless you have > used and/or tasted finished baked goods used from > flour or cornmeal > right from the grist mill then you have missed a > real treat! These baked > goods are far superior to what one can purchase in a > store. We use to > purchase cornmeal direct from a grist mill in the > Smoky Mountains of NC, > enroute to Cherokee Indian Reservation.....you are > invited to watch them > grind if you are there the day they are grinding. > Of course that is another treat! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ==== SCUNION Mailing List ==== The messages on this list are archived and can be searched at: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Oh, yes! My mouth waters at the very thought of corn bread baked with freshly-ground meal. Mickey -----Original Message----- From: 1 1 [mailto:ILA7@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:53 PM To: SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCUNION] Union Co/Enoree River mills Footnote to grist mills: The total grain was used in creating the flour, corn meal, etc. which yielded a coarser finished product with which to bake. Unless you have used and/or tasted finished baked goods used from flour or cornmeal right from the grist mill then you have missed a real treat! These baked goods are far superior to what one can purchase in a store. We use to purchase cornmeal direct from a grist mill in the Smoky Mountains of NC, enroute to Cherokee Indian Reservation.....you are invited to watch them grind if you are there the day they are grinding. Of course that is another treat! ==== SCUNION Mailing List ==== The SC GenWeb Archives page is located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/scfiles.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I intend to make a trip out there (I live in Arizona) so I'll have to make a point to stop and do this, it sounds yummy. And besides, it's in the name of research right!?! :) ~LauraS > Unless you have > used and/or tasted finished baked goods used from > flour or cornmeal > right from the grist mill then you have missed a > real treat! These baked > goods are far superior to what one can purchase in a > store. We use to > purchase cornmeal direct from a grist mill in the > Smoky Mountains of NC, > enroute to Cherokee Indian Reservation.....you are > invited to watch them > grind if you are there the day they are grinding. > Of course that is another treat! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Thanks :) ~LauraS > A gristmill was a place to bring your grains (wheat, > corn, etc...) to have > them ground into useful products like flour, > cornmeal, and grits. They were > usually along a moving stream bed as the grinding > wheels were exceedingly > large and stone. While it was possible to get a > medium grind at home with a > mallet and grinding bowl -- only the weight of those > huge stones could crush > to a fine grind. Some still work. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Footnote to grist mills: The total grain was used in creating the flour, corn meal, etc. which yielded a coarser finished product with which to bake. Unless you have used and/or tasted finished baked goods used from flour or cornmeal right from the grist mill then you have missed a real treat! These baked goods are far superior to what one can purchase in a store. We use to purchase cornmeal direct from a grist mill in the Smoky Mountains of NC, enroute to Cherokee Indian Reservation.....you are invited to watch them grind if you are there the day they are grinding. Of course that is another treat!

I don't know about the location of the mills but a grist mill was one that ground corn into cornmeal. One of my favorite things to do, as a child, was accompany my father to take the corn to Mr. Thrasher's mill in Alabama. Your list mom, Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laroxstew@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:21 PM To: SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCUNION] Union Co/Enoree River mills Does anyone have any information on the Mills of Old District 96? I have seen the Mills Atlas Book and have found the mill I'm looking for. I'm trying to find some history about it now. It was Garrett's Grist and Saw Mill (as listed on the Union Co map) or Garrett's Mill (as listed on the lauren's Co map). It was owned an opperated by John Garrett from the late 1700s to the early 1800s at which time John died and his children sued his wife, their mother, who inherited the mill in order that they could shut it down. There are experts everywhere online, there has to be an expert on old mills! :) And.. what is Grist? Is this some sort of lumber mill? Thanks, ~LauraS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ==== SCUNION Mailing List ==== The Pinckney District Genealogical Society (Union, Spartanburg & Cherokee Cos., SC) P.O. Box 5281, Spartanburg, SC 29304 ($20/yr incl. Qtrly. publ.) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Laura, A grist mill is always located on a running stream that grinds seed for flour, corn meal, etc. The local farmers in the area would take their seed to be ground for their yearly supply. I'm sure you have seen pictures of this with big turning wheels in the water. Wanda

grain Carson and Betty's genealogy research wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laroxstew@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:21 PM > To: SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCUNION] Union Co/Enoree River mills > > <snip> > And.. what is Grist? Is this some sort of lumber > mill? > > Thanks, > ~LauraS > -----------------end----------------- > > A gristmill was a place to bring your grains (wheat, corn, etc...) to have > them ground into useful products like flour, cornmeal, and grits. They were > usually along a moving stream bed as the grinding wheels were exceedingly > large and stone. While it was possible to get a medium grind at home with a > mallet and grinding bowl -- only the weight of those huge stones could crush > to a fine grind. Some still work. > > And yummy food too, nothing like "real" grits!..... > > CoachT > > ==== SCUNION Mailing List ==== > The Union County SC GenWeb page is located at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scunion/union.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

-----Original Message----- From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laroxstew@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:21 PM To: SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCUNION] Union Co/Enoree River mills <snip> And.. what is Grist? Is this some sort of lumber mill? Thanks, ~LauraS -----------------end----------------- A gristmill was a place to bring your grains (wheat, corn, etc...) to have them ground into useful products like flour, cornmeal, and grits. They were usually along a moving stream bed as the grinding wheels were exceedingly large and stone. While it was possible to get a medium grind at home with a mallet and grinding bowl -- only the weight of those huge stones could crush to a fine grind. Some still work. And yummy food too, nothing like "real" grits!..... CoachT

Hello fellow THOMAS researchers, I NEED HELP PLEASE!! I am trying again to find parents and siblings for my: Daniel R. Thomas b. abt 1802, Union Co., SC married Nancy Ann /Mary/ Johnson in 1824 in Union Co. SC This couple left Union County in the early 1830's. They went to Irwin, Wilkinson, Georgia. Then in 1851, to Florida. The way I see this is that one of these men listed below in the census lists for 1800 or 1810 has to be father to my Daniel R. Thomas. He shows up on his own in the 1830 list. But with two Daniel R. Thomas men in the same area at the same time, is very confusing. And I keep running in circles with this. Can anyone claim any of these Thomas men in the 1800 and 1810 census? I would like to be able to determine which line may possible be mine and which I can quit scouring over. I understand one of these Daniel R. Thomas men went to either Arkansas or Alabama about the same time my Daniel R. Thomas went to Georgia. I am at my wits end with this and am now trying to resort to the process of elimination. Also does anyone have access to the Ancestral Magazine SC? I am looking for this: SC MAGAZINE OF ANCESTRAL RESEARCH February 1982, page 201 I have been told that both of these have a great deal of genealogical information. I would like to get a copy of it. This court case was a continuation of the case that was started several years prior over the will and probate of Nancy's father, William Johnson, said to be a Col. I would like to also get a copy of the original date in the courts, but I do not know when this happened. I am assuming it would be after July 8, 1819 as this is the death date I have for Col. Johnson. Does anyone have any suggestion as to what I can do next? Any help out there for me? Thanks for those who are still reading this!! I appreciate any and all ideas. Sincerely, Lana 1800 T520 THOMAS Arthur 1800 M-32 50 228 20001-01210-00 T520 THOMAS Daniel 1800 M-32 50 226 21400-11110-0,21 T520 THOMAS Thomas 1800 M-32 50 239 30010-21010-00 T520 THOMAS William 1800 M-32 50 227 20010-00010-02 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1810 T520 THOMAS Andrew 1810 M-252 61 229 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Arthur 1810 M-252 61 240 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Daniel 1810 M-252 61 230 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Thomas 1810 M-252 61 242 NdRcd T520 THOMAS William 1810 M-252 61 231 NdRcd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- T520 THOMAS Arthur 1820 M-33 121 130 100010-01010 T520 THOMAS Benjamin 1820 M-33 121 130 100100-00100 T520 THOMAS Daniel 1820 M-33 121 149 100021-32011 T520 THOMAS David 1820 M-33 121 130 310012-00100 T520 THOMAS John 1820 M-33 121 131 100100-00100 T525 THOMAS John 1820 M-33 121 152 100010-10010 T520 THOMAS William 1820 M-33 121 130 110101-02101 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- T520 THOMAS Athey 1830 M-19 171 148 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Benjamin 1830 M-19 171 172 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Daniel 1830 M-19 171 150 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Daniel R. 1830 M-19 171 149 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Daniel R. 1830 M-19 171 150 NdRcd T520 THOMAS David A. 1830 M-19 171 151 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Dorcas 1830 M-19 171 205 NdRcd T520 THOMAS Jamy V. 1830 M-19 171 150 NdRcd T520 THOMAS John 1830 M-19 171 155 NdRcd T520 THOMAS William 1830 M-19 171 150 NdRcd T520 THOMAS William R. 1830 M-19 171 155 NdRcd