This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McAlexander, Cathcart, Adair, Dalrymple Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/723.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: re: James Dalrymple (d. 3 Aug 1586) m. 1563 Isabel Kennedy, (dau of Thomas Kennedy of Bargany). had 3 son, 1. John Dalrymple, m. 1582-3 Margaret Dunbar ......(dau of Wm Dunbar of Blantyre and had son (& others ?) .......1 a. James Dalrymple of Stair m. 1613 Marjory Cathcart ............(dau of Allan Cathcart of Waterside) ............By contract 12 Oct 1620, James made over the lands of Stair ............to his uncle, James Dalrymple of Drummurchie. 2. James Dalrymple of Drummurchie (see below) 3. Thomas Dalrymple (children ?) James Dalrymple, second son of James Dalrymple of Stair and Isabel Kennedy) of Drummurchie, became possessed of the land of Stair. He m. 1617 Janet Kennedy (dau of Fergus Kennedy of Knockdaw, and had ONLY CHILD , James Dalrymple of Stair, b. 1619 at Drummurchie, parish of Barr, Ayrshire He had a company of Foot in the regiment of William (Cunningham ?), Earl of Glencairn, afterwards Chancellor. (Cunningham may have had estate in the Whithorn area of Wigtownshire and also in the plantation of co. Donegal, Ireland). ................... Domestic Annals of Scotland. c.1599 M'Alexander of Drumachryne in Ayrshire had a lease of the teinds of his estate from the Laird of Girvanmains, who in his turn was head-tenant of these teinds from the Earl of Cassius (Cassillis ?). (Some members of families of McAlexander, Cunningham, Cathcart & Adair appear to have emigrated to Ireland early 1600s. The McAlexander families appear to have been from an area north of Mochrum.) 'But this Drumachryne, being ane proud man, wald now be tenant to my lord himself, and his man. [That is, he preferred being man or vassal to the earl.] The Laird of Girvanmains came to my lord, and said his lordship "had [done him wrang] in setting of his teinds to his awn man ower his head; and for ony gains he sall reap by that deed, the same sall be but small." My lord answerit and said: "Ye dar not find fault with him; for, an ye do, we knaw whare ye dwell." The other said: "An he bide by that deed, he should repent the same, do for him wha likit!" My lord said: "Ye dar not steir him for your craig [neck]!" and bade him gang to his yett [gate]. The Laird of Girvanmains rides his ways, and thinking that the Laird of Drumachryne wald come after him, he stayit, and his twa servants with him, on a muir called Craigdow, behind ane knowe [knoll], while that he saw him coming. His brother, (McAlexander) the Laird of Corseclays, being with him, and Oliver Kennedy of . . . .; but they strake never ane strake in his defence. Girvanmains pursues him, and his twa men with him, callit Gilbert M'Fiddes and William M'Fiddes, ane boy, wha was the spy. They come to them on horseback, and strake him on the head with swords, and slew him. My lord was very far offendit at this deed, and avowit to have ane mends thereof, and causit denounce Girvanmains to the horn; and did all he could to have his life, and wrack him in his geir.'-Hist. Ken. A less tragical, but equally characteristic affair occurred in the same district about the same period. Let it first be understood that Kennedy of Bargeny and the Earl of Cassius had long been on hostile terms. 'My lord, having ane decreet against ane servant, of the (Kennedy ?) Laird of Bargeny's, callit John M'Alexander, of the lands of Dangart.... wald put the same in execution, and intromit with the haill corns that was upon the grund; and send his household servants, and gait [caused] intromit with some of the corns, and shore ane part thereof. This coming to the Laird of Bargeny's ears, he loups on in Ardstinchar, and rides to the land, and with horse and carts brought the corns that they had shorn with him to Ardstinchar; for, he said: "My lord had nae richt to the corns, albeit he had obteenit deereet against the land." This being on the Saturday, my lord provides with all his force he can, against Monday, to shear the rest of the corns. And the Laird of Bargeny, in the same manner, provides for the same effect. The Laird of Bargeny, [being] the nearest hand, comes first to the grund, and to the number of six hundred men on horse, with twa hundred hagbutters. And my Lord of! Ochiltree (Stewart ?) came also, with the number of ane hunder horse; so that, in all, he was, or [ere] twelve hours, the number of nine hunder men, on foot and horse. My Lord of Cassillis come also, with his haill force that he might mak, to the like number or few mae [more]. But the Laird, being in the house and yards, and he having many basses and hagbuts of found with him, the same was onpossible for my lord to mend himself. But my Lord of Cathcart, (Laird of Carleton) being ane nobleman wha had married to his wife ane near kinswoman of my Lord Cassillis, (Kennedy)and his son having married the Laird of Bargeny's sister, travelled amang them, and took up the matter in this sort, that the laird should have the haill corns that was on the grund to his servant, and should find caution for the duty of the land, whilk was my lord's; and that my lord should come to the grund of the lands, and, according to his deereet, tak possession of the same, but not to steir the corns; ! and the Laird of Carleton (Cathcart of Genoch ?) and the Gudeman of Ar dmillan to be cautioners for the foresaid duty, and my lord fand caution not to trouble the corns, nor the man in the shearing of them. And [according] to this agreeance, the laird rade his way to Ardstinchar (Stinchar of McAlister ?); and my lord came to the land and took possession; and John M'Alexander shore his corns in peace.' -.Hist. Ken. ................ Eliz. Adair from Wigtownshire, Scot. / Antrim, N. Ireland may have m. McAlexander. Did descendants of these families emigrate to Virginia, America ?