Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all. I understand it's a bigger holiday here in the U.S. than in Ireland. Any excuse to drink beer.... Our Scot SCOTT family at S. Drummoddie Farm, Newton Stewart/Glasserton area, also came from Ireland in 1841. I have not yet attempted to find them in Ireland and really have no idea of where to begin. I have heard that Irish records are much less complete than Scottish ones. Yet another country to factor into the gene pool.... Lynn T. SCOTT in Florida, USA -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:14 AM To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 107 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Irish in your family (William Kelly) 2. Irish connections (Mary Forsyth) 3. Re: Irish in your family (jackvbutler@comcast.net) 4. Irish connections - McGuigan, Docherty, McKie, ?O'Neil, Rylands (LindaInverness@aol.com) 5. Scots to Ireland (betty TELFORD) 6. Irish Connections and St. Patrick (Crawford MacKeand) 7. Re: Irish Connections and St. Patrick (The Mitchell Mob) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:37:24 -0000 From: "William Kelly" <william.kelly7@tesco.net> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Irish in your family To: <Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <008d01c76867$1c944df0$5d610050@D9LTT81J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear List, All of my Wigtown family were Irish. There seems to have been a strong historical connection perhaps from Wigtown's promenance as a seaport with trade linking Ireland, Isle of Man and Liverpool. My family seemed to arrive around the time of the famine from Down and Armagh. The names are a givaway too - Kelly, McCluskey, Sheridan and Shevlin among them. The Kellys seemed to stop for a generation before moving on to America but descendants of the McCluskeys and Shevlin were still around as recently as 1980. I wonder if any of the local listees knew a relative called Mary Celia McCluskey (or possibly Ertel) or Margaret Herbert who was a schoolteacher in the Wigtown area? Happy St. Patrick's day to all. Bill Kelly ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:13:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Mary Forsyth <mar_for2003@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [WIG LIST] Irish connections To: Sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070317091316.11432.qmail@web86913.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, My Stewarts seem to have originated in Co. Down, Ireland. They came over to the Glasserton/Mochrum area. I seem to have hit a blank wall though on the Irish side. Mary --------------------------------- Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:34:51 -0500 From: <jackvbutler@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Irish in your family To: <Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <200703171235.l2HCZ2at013989@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It may not apply to the Kellys, but there is another historical connection between the area and Ireland - James the 6th of Scotland/1st of Great Britain solved, or at least improved, part of his Borders troubles by banishing substantial numbers of what he called "those dour Scots" from the Dumfries and Kirkudbright areas and implanting them into the Ulster area of Northern Ireland. There was substantial movement back and forth after that. Jack Butler -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Kelly Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:37 AM To: Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Irish in your family Dear List, All of my Wigtown family were Irish. There seems to have been a strong historical connection perhaps from Wigtown's promenance as a seaport with trade linking Ireland, Isle of Man and Liverpool. My family seemed to arrive around the time of the famine from Down and Armagh. The names are a givaway too - Kelly, McCluskey, Sheridan and Shevlin among them. The Kellys seemed to stop for a generation before moving on to America but descendants of the McCluskeys and Shevlin were still around as recently as 1980. I wonder if any of the local listees knew a relative called Mary Celia McCluskey (or possibly Ertel) or Margaret Herbert who was a schoolteacher in the Wigtown area? Happy St. Patrick's day to all. Bill Kelly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:36:09 EDT From: LindaInverness@aol.com Subject: [WIG LIST] Irish connections - McGuigan, Docherty, McKie, ?O'Neil, Rylands To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d2d.84b801f.332d3ab9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Happy St Patrick's Day! I, too, have Irish connections. My ancestors all settled in Wigtownshire (Newton Stewart) but all seem to have made their way from Ireland. Francis McKie was born in Co Monaghan, Ireland and married Mary McKie (don't know where her family originated yet!). Married in Penninghame Parish 1815. Michael and Catherine McGuigan (Catherine's maiden name was either Meiklehone or Coyle - I've found both in different records) came from Maghera District, Co Derry, Ireland. They made their home in Penninghame, Newton Stewart. Their son, Andrew (my ggg grandfather) was also born in Ireland around 1824. He married Jane (Jean) McKie. Their son, also Andrew, married Alice Rylands (born Dublin, Ireland, in 1849). Michael Doherty (Docherty/Daugherty) was born in Co Derry (or possibly Co Down, Ireland - can't quite make out which one from the census entry for 1861) married Margaret O'Neil from Balmaghie, Kirkcudbrightshire. Her parents were Michael O'Neil and Kate Brodick (don't know where they're from yet!) Michael and Margaret lived for a while in Dumfries, where they married, and eventually settled in Newton Stewart. I haven't attempted to tracing my Irish ancestors yet. My next project I think!!!! Linda (Lincoln, England) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:45:21 +0000 (GMT) From: betty TELFORD <telfordbm@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [WIG LIST] Scots to Ireland To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Cc: telford-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070317124521.4120.qmail@web86915.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This Maxwell web site is a good summary of the movement. www.maxwellsociety.com/History/Ireland.htm It says by 1640 there were over 100,000 thousand Scots in Ireland. Betty ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Crawford MacKeand <jcbmck@UDel.Edu> Subject: [WIG LIST] Irish Connections and St. Patrick To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.60L.0703170954020.23043@copland.udel.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Nobody has yet mentioned Ireland in connection with brick walls, but I'd come to the conclusion that that is where they all come from!!! Or maybe they were invented there? I have a few, both connections and walls, but then my Irish are Ayrshire and not Wigtown related. I wonder whether it will provoke as many listings when (and if) I remember to suggest that we think of our English connections on St. George's Day?!! Crawford. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:13:52 +0900 From: "The Mitchell Mob" <bradybunch13@aapt.net.au> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Irish Connections and St. Patrick To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000501c7689e$7e2899e0$0201010a@MINE> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Well said, I think the Irish invented the brick wall too. I think they built them a lot larger than the average too, by the sounds of it. There are a good many people complaining about how hard their Irish ancestors are to find, and I don't blame them. I would even go as far as saying it would probably be easier to kiss the Blarney Stone. Luck o' the Irish to yer. Kaaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford MacKeand" <jcbmck@UDel.Edu> To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: [WIG LIST] Irish Connections and St. Patrick > Nobody has yet mentioned Ireland in connection with brick walls, but I'd > come to the conclusion that that is where they all come from!!! Or maybe > they were invented there? I have a few, both connections and walls, but > then my Irish are Ayrshire and not Wigtown related. > I wonder whether it will provoke as many listings when (and if) I remember > to suggest that we think of our English connections on St. George's Day?!! > > Crawford. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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