Hi my name is Richard McGarva I am researching the McGarva family tree,i have hit a brick wall with a JAMES MCGARVA born 1769 unknown birth place but was living and married in MINNIGAFF Kirkudbrighrshire....Would like to know his father and mother were,he did marry a Margaret Findlay..... Richard McGarva ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:00 PM Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 101 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Scots Proverbs (Maisie Egger) > 2. Re: Alexander & Janet (Rodie) DALRYMPLE -- of Old Luce > ([email protected]) > 3. Re: McConnochie Information ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Heron family (Irene Hanasand) > 5. MIDDLE NAMES (Diana Henry) > 6. Re: MIDDLE NAMES (Alexr) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:25:06 -0700 > From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Scots Proverbs > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Well, if we all paid attention to THAT particular proverb about not > starting something unless we can finish it, we'd never even begin our > genealogy hunting, now would we? > > I'm all the way back to my great-great grandfather William Clint, b. 1792 > (Kelton, KKBT), and I think I may have his parents and grandparents, so I > have started what I hope some day to finish, but CAN I, that's the > question. > > I know, I'm taking this a bit out of context, but sometimes those proverbs > can be a bit defeating, ses I. Maisie > > Scots Proverb: > > > "Raise nae mair deils nor ye can lay" === Don't start something you > can't finish. (This word "lay" should really be lig.) > > nae mair = no more > > deils = devil; a bit; nothing at all; not at all, or in this context > "anything". > > nor = than; although; if; that;...such as 'deil nor' little would one care > although.... > > lig = to talk much; gossip; to lag or fall behind; used of ewes: to bring > forth; to lie; recline; to lodge; to know carnally; to lay, let, lie. > > > > Also, how about: > > Byde weill, betyde weill: Everything comes to him who waits. > > byde = bide (wait) > > betyde = betide (to happen; come to; to come to pass; befall > > weill = well; very, quite; prosperity, happiness > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:22:39 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Alexander & Janet (Rodie) DALRYMPLE -- of Old > Luce > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: memeweaver > Surnames: Dalrymple, McConnell > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/723.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Do you have dates for when they were active? > > I have ancestor James Dalrymple (born New Luce, 14/3/1724) married Martha > McConnell in 1755, with daughter Janet born 11/6/1755. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:52:00 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] McConnochie Information > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: memeweaver > Surnames: Kerr, McConchie > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/228.295.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have an ancestor Agnes McConchie born about 1750, but I know nothing > about her other than that she and her husband Robert KERR produced twins, > also Robert & Agnes on 26/8/1777 in Stranraer. > > I've not found OPR listings for the birth of either parent or their > marriage. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:31:32 +0100 > From: "Irene Hanasand" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Heron family > To: <[email protected]>, "'Margaret McDowall'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Margaret, > Just saw your comments on the Heron family. I am getting myself confused > and > wonder if you can clarify for me because I now have 3 Letitias! > > My great great grandmother was Ann Heron daughter of Ann Thompson who had > a > sister 1)Letitia b1811 and a daughter 2)Letitia b1840 and a niece > 3)Letitia > b1842. > > Can I ask, where you have said > > 'She died 1st May 1885 in Mochrum. her husband at the time is William > Dodd's > who remarried Mary McMaster and didn't die until 1914. They had 4 children > the third of them being Annie McLelland Dodds' > > Am I right that the 'she' is the 3)Letitia b1842 and the niece of my Anne? > (her brother William's daughter) If so are you saying that when the > husband > William Dodd remarried it was he and Mary McMaster who had the 4 children > the third of which was Annie McLelland Dodds? You see this is where I am > confused as McClelland was 3)Letitia's mother's maiden name. > OR > Are you saying that it was 3)Letitia and William Dodd who had the 4 > children > before she died and he remarried? > OR > Are those 4 children a mixture of 3)Letitia and Mary McMasters to William > Dodds? > > Ditto your Whew! > > I would be so grateful if you can decipher all this and set me straight > and > also, if you have them, share with me the details of these 4 children you > speak of. Also are these your ancestors too...where do you fit in? > > Warm Wishes > Irene > Wales UK > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret > McDowall > Sent: 18 June 2010 22:01 > To: Jo-Ann Croft; Wigtownshire List > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Heron family > > Hello again > > Ok I've sorted it now.? Letitia Heron who married William?McCreadie is the > aunt of Letitia Heron who married William Dodds.... whew!! > > Her mother is Ann Thompson?- silly me!! > ? > Margaret McDowall > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Margaret McDowall <[email protected]> > To: Margaret McDowall <[email protected]>; Jo-Ann Croft > <[email protected]>; > Wigtownshire List <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, 18 June, 2010 21:04:14 > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Heron family > > > I have a real problem now as I've just picked up this William and?Letitia > in > the 1871 census, which now leads me to believe that there must be?2 > Letitia's > > William is 69 still a house carpenter living at Grocer's shop Mochrum > with him is Letitia aged?66 > Nicholas Johnston aged 26 > John?McCreadie aged 21 > Elizabeth McCreadie aged 19 > > Ho hum! > ? > Margaret McDowall > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Margaret McDowall <[email protected]> > To: Jo-Ann Croft <[email protected]>; Wigtownshire List > <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, 18 June, 2010 20:44:26 > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Heron family > > Hello > > Have just picked up on this thread and I've another bit to add to > Letitia's > story.? I actually didn't have her married to?William McCreadie but I do > have her death!! > > She died 1st May 1885 in Mochrum. her husband at the time is William > Dodd's > who remarried Mary McMaster and didn't die until 1914. They had 4 children > the third of them being Annie McLelland Dodds > ? > Margaret McDowall > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jo-Ann Croft <[email protected]> > To: Wigtownshire List <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 15 June, 2010 14:31:05 > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Heron family > > Irene, > > When I looked at the HERON marriages in Mochrum on familysearch, it showed > quite a few in the same time period as Anne's. This included a Letitia > Heron > with father William,?which fit with Anne's family.? So I took a chance on > scotlandspeople and looked for deaths of Heron's in Mochrum before 1900.? > While I didn't find Letitia's, I did find a William who seems to be a > sibling of Anne's.? He married Ann Walker McCLELLAN on 19 January 1832 in > Mochrum.? > > 1876 Death Register, Parish of Mochrum, County of Wigtown > Page 2 > > #6 William HERON, shoemaker, widower of Ann McCLELLAND > Age: 67 years > Died:? 3 February 1876, Port William > Parents:? William HERON, mason, deceased, and Ann Heron m.s. THOMPSON, > deceased > Informant:? Hugh Heron, son > > I will forward the register page image to you. > > ----- > Jo-Ann Croft? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ? ? ? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Diana Henry <[email protected]> > Subject: [WIG LIST] MIDDLE NAMES > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear List, > Does anyone know why in the 19th century large families only one child?has > a middle name? > Diana Henry > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:19:42 +0100 > From: Alexr <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] MIDDLE NAMES > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > In article <[email protected]>, > Diana Henry <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear List, Does anyone know why in the 19th century large families only >> one child has a middle name? > > Is the middle name a 'surname'? Possibilities include the person the child > is named after has died (eg Elizabeth Ross Bell, after her recently > decease aunt Elizabeth Christie Bell or Ross; Elizabeth Christie Bell > herself was named after her paternal grandmother Elizabeth Christie, who > had died a good few years earlier) or to emphasise or differentiate who > the child is named after (eg James Young Bell, after the family physician > James Young). Alternatively, the person who they are named after has two > forenames. Or the parents just could not decide which of two names to > choose and gave both. > > Alex. > > -- > o-+-+-o [email protected] > /'o'\ The Acorn StrongArm RiscPC > '---' - a real windows computer. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 101 > ************************************************