Hi Sam, to be "foonert" is still used here today and very often is!  I have not heard of foonering though. I was in a shop in Stranraer on Saturday only to be told that  (sorry) "wi hae nane the noo" about a certain product which I was asking for.  Going along the street hearing snatches of conversation I am sure no one outside Dumfries and Galloway and Ayrshire could possibly understand what was being said.  I think people are getting "broader" in their speech. Best wishes, Diana ________________________________ From: Sam Heron <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 7:17:23 AM Subject: [WIG LIST] Scottish words 'foonerin ' My sister here in Brisbane where our temperatures just now range between 20 °C and 30 °C commented recently, when it was feeling a bit coolish relatively speaking, that she could have got a 'foonerin' ......... as in 'got a chill or worse from the cold weather'. Does the word 'foonerin' ring a bell with anyone else? I understand that it is from the word 'founder' as in 'to perish or be benumbed with cold'. It is an interesting old Scottish word and I am curious as to how wide spread it was or is still used. In the older Scots language there was a tendency to drop the 'd' at the end of words and the 'ou' was pronounced as 'oo' hence 'fooner' from 'founder'. Sam Heron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm fascinated. I just tuned in; please direct me to the archives if the question has already been answered. What dialect do they speak in these three counties? Is it still Gaelic? I fail to recognize only the last word, and the rest sound far more like Scottish, which is really an Angle dialect of Old English. Typically Scottish is very similar to English but vowels and word endings differ, and Gaelic sounds like nothing you ever heard of in your life, and you'd hardly correctly guess what the words mean (unless of course you're a native speaker). "We have none the ___" What does that last word mean? Does Ayrshire include the Glasgow area, when you're speaking of this dialect? I'm interested in the genesis of the name McKinstry. Allegedly it is Scots Gaelic for "son of a traveler" or "son of a wanderer", but a single Scots Gaelic scholar decided that, and looking at all those very similar Scots Gaelic names I think he could conceivably be wrong. Also the name seemingly dates to just before 1500, atleast in the land and probate records. Allegedly at the time the people of Galloway spoke Scots Gaelic, and they stopped speaking it late. They lived upstream on the Cree River. I understand that Gaelic was spoken until the 17th or 18th century in Galloway, and that Scots Gaelic once dominated Scotland, but that by late medieval times Scottish dominated Scotland. I understand that the spread of Scottish and the demise of Scots Gaelic spread across Galloway in such a way that people along the Cree River were arguably still speaking it just past 1500. I wouldn't be surprised if I had any part of that oversimplified. Yours, Villandra Thorsdottir Austin, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Henry" <[email protected]> To: "Sam Heron" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Scottish words 'foonerin ' Hi Sam, to be "foonert" is still used here today and very often is! I have not heard of foonering though. I was in a shop in Stranraer on Saturday only to be told that (sorry) "wi hae nane the noo" about a certain product which I was asking for. Going along the street hearing snatches of conversation I am sure no one outside Dumfries and Galloway and Ayrshire could possibly understand what was being said. I think people are getting "broader" in their speech. Best wishes, Diana ________________________________ From: Sam Heron <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 7:17:23 AM Subject: [WIG LIST] Scottish words 'foonerin ' My sister here in Brisbane where our temperatures just now range between 20 °C and 30 °C commented recently, when it was feeling a bit coolish relatively speaking, that she could have got a 'foonerin' ......... as in 'got a chill or worse from the cold weather'. Does the word 'foonerin' ring a bell with anyone else? I understand that it is from the word 'founder' as in 'to perish or be benumbed with cold'. It is an interesting old Scottish word and I am curious as to how wide spread it was or is still used. In the older Scots language there was a tendency to drop the 'd' at the end of words and the 'ou' was pronounced as 'oo' hence 'fooner' from 'founder'. Sam Heron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message