The search "robot" that we use to look at the pages and help find things that just HAVE to be there has just taken another look at the site as a whole, and reports that we now have 1000 pages!! I was impressed! Keep on using it. It's a great service. Crawford.

In transcribing Old Parish Birth records for Kirkmaiden Parish back in 1720 I`ve come across the following: 01 Dec 1720 - John Gray - Chirurgeon - Apothecary in Stranraer - and Margaret Adair lawful daughter to the deceased William Adair of Curgy [Curgie] were Married on the 1st of December 1720 years. Chirurgeon .... It took a while to figure out what the meaning of this word is ... ?? Anyone ?? Wayne

I just added to the "useful links" on the Wig Pages, under Scotland (not too far down the page) the following site http://www.visitscotland.com/destinations-maps/dumfries-galloway and even if you can't visit, it has some great pictures. Crawford.

Hi Bruce -   Simply put, you are awesome - I cannot thank you enough for the help.  A couple points and new info:   1.  I also agree that it is unlikely that John's Father Peter lived in Scotland.  I have his death listed as June 27, 1853 but I do not know where.   2.  Elizabeth Pringle/Sheridan/Mackay's parent were George Pringle and Jane Pike/Peak (conflicting spellings on records).  I hope that helps.  I also found records that there was a George Pringle in the Dumfries jail at some point. Thanks again, Kevin   Kevin A. Sheridan, Best-Selling Author, Keynote Speaker, Chief Engagement Officer Kevin Sheridan LLC 7 Indian Hill Road Winnetka, IL 60093 Office Telephone: 847-386-7486 Fax:                          847-386-7487 Cell Phone:            312-953-6096 ________________________________ From: Bruce McDowall <milldriggan@gmail.com> To: Kevin Sheridan <kevinsheridan5@yahoo.com> Cc: "sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] John Sheridan Family Tree On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Kevin Sheridan <kevinsheridan5@yahoo.com> wrote: <snip> I can not find evidence that John Sheridan (b1828/1829)'s father Peter lived in Scotland, which I doubt, and don't even know where to begin searching in Ireland. The fact that I have no name of John's Mother does not help as well. John's wife's (Elizabeth Pringle/Sheridan/Mackay)'s  death certificate on Scotlands people did NOT contain the name of her parent/s.   Any advice on where next to look would be greatly appreciated. <snip> Hi Kevin, Following our phone conversation earlier today my time, I was inspired to take a further look at <http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk> I don't currently have active credits, but by use of the index, I found the following: Statutory Registers / Marriages: Elizabeth PRINGLE married John McKAY in 1877 in parish of Penninghame, Wigtownshire. This registration should name Elizabeth PRINGLE's parents. Catholic Registers / Banns & Marriages: Elizabeth PRINGLE married John SHIRDEAN (sic) 26 May 1853 at Newton Stewart Our Lady and St Ninian. The odd spelling of SHIRDEAN for SHERIDAN was the tricky bit. I haven't accessed any of these Catholic marriage records, so don't know what to expect in the way of detail, but I suspect that you may find the credits well spent. Good luck, Bruce

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GailMcClellan75 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2064.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to what I have, Alexander McClelland was born in Scotland (census fill out by his son, John Alexander). However, John Alexander McClelland was born in Antrim County Ireland to Alexander and Ellen Jane Watt. John Alexander immigrated to Pennsylvania, USA in or around 1881. Clearfield County, Brisbin to be exact. His father died in 1867. This is all I have from Census and newpaper article on John Alexander. I am banging my head against a wall. Do you have any suggestions. Have been through Scotland records and Ireland records. Want to have DNA tested which may link me with someone in either country who may know something. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: isobel_ledden Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2064.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: you are right....he may have been born in robe or goolwa sa but the rest of them have come from scotland. did you have a date on the scottish one?? isobel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lawrenceharkness37 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/847.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI MY NAME IS BRIAN HARKNESS AND I LIVE IN DUMFRIES,SCOTLAND AND I AM A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF WILLIAM BROADFOOT AND MARY BROOKS THRU THEIR GRANDAUGHTER JANE JOHNSTONE BROADFOOT WIFE OF JAMES BARBOUR HARKNESS. I AM NOT ON ANCESTRY BUT YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT lawrenceharkness37@googlemail.com CHEERS BRIAN HARKNESS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Kevin Sheridan <kevinsheridan5@yahoo.com> wrote: <snip> I can not find evidence that John Sheridan (b1828/1829)'s father Peter lived in Scotland, which I doubt, and don't even know where to begin searching in Ireland. The fact that I have no name of John's Mother does not help as well. John's wife's (Elizabeth Pringle/Sheridan/Mackay)'s death certificate on Scotlands people did NOT contain the name of her parent/s. Any advice on where next to look would be greatly appreciated. <snip> Hi Kevin, Following our phone conversation earlier today my time, I was inspired to take a further look at <http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk> I don't currently have active credits, but by use of the index, I found the following: *Statutory Registers / Marriages:* Elizabeth PRINGLE married John McKAY in 1877 in parish of Penninghame, Wigtownshire. This registration should name Elizabeth PRINGLE's parents. *Catholic Registers / Banns & Marriages:* Elizabeth PRINGLE married John SHIRDEAN (sic) 26 May 1853 at Newton Stewart Our Lady and St Ninian. The odd spelling of SHIRDEAN for SHERIDAN was the tricky bit. I haven't accessed any of these Catholic marriage records, so don't know what to expect in the way of detail, but I suspect that you may find the credits well spent. Good luck, Bruce

23 Oct 1908 District of Stranraer, marriage of James Allan and Mary McCubbin he 22 son of James Allan and Margaret McVicker and she 18 daughter of Hugh McCubbin and Elizabeth McCubbin. Mathew Caldwell and Jessie Craig witnesses. 20 Nov 1908 District of Stranraer, marriage of William HENRY and Agnes Allan he 36 son of William Henry and Jessie Wilson and she 23 daughter of James Allan and Margaret McEwan

27th Aug 1920 Parish of Stoneykirk, marriages of William McKenjie McColm and Isabella Wallis Muir Bodte he 19 son of James McColm and Janet Donnan and she, 20, daughter of James Bodte and Isabella More 10 Sept 1920 same parish, marriage of William HENRY and Maggie McNally both 23. He son of William HENRY and Agnes Wallace and she daughter of Peter McNally and Maggie McCaig

9 Mar 1906 Parish of Kirkinner, Marriage license between William Henry, son of William Henry and Mary Walker and Maggie Isabella Carson, daughter of William Carson and Margaret McCall. he is 28 and she is 22. Mathew HENRY and Ellen Nicholson are witnesses. 7 April 1906 Parish of Kirkinner, Marriage license between John Roddie and Elizabeth McCourt . He is 23 and she is 23. He is son of John Roddie and Elizabeth Irvine and she is the daughter of James McCourt and Elizabeth McGeoch. William Wallace and Mina McCourt are witnesses

“Decisions of the Court of Session” Vol.18. by William Maxwell Morrison. 16052 no.106. 20 Feb 1765. Hugh Hawthorn of Castlewig purchased the lands of Drummoral.

Dorothy, The Brown family who were next-door to Drummoral fort may know some of Drummoral’s history. Refer http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/294203/details/boyach+farm/

Subject: Appreciation again to SKS Appreciation again to SKS Just another heads up to those who “reach out to touch someone” in the ongoing quest to find elusive ancestors. Irene McLeod, for example, unearthed a picture of the gravestone for Margaret McGrigor, alongside that of Margaret’s husband, Thomas Clint, and what a wonderful inscription she had, too. “”Here lyes Margaret McGRIGOR spouse to Thomas CLINT, Vintner in Dumfries who ever proved herself a good Christian. A dutiful wife, a tender mother affable and courteous to strangers and carried with her to the grave the esteem and regret of all her acquaintances. She departed this mortal life perfectly resigned to the will of her creator the 22nd day of Nov 1782. R.J.P. Also Margaret CLINT her granddaughter who was born 5th June 1791 and died 20th July 1793. Also lies here Margaret Jane CLINT second daughter of Henry CLINT who died upon the 9th of December MDCCXCV11 aged 2 years 8 months.””” Unfortunately, there is no record of the names of who ascribed such glowing appreciation of their parents. I still have to glue Thomas Clint of Carlingwark on the tree as definitely my grandfather five times removed. The Kelton parish records are miserable, and so apart from knowing that Carlingwark is the old name for Castle Douglas in Kirkcudbrightshire and was/is a flourishing market town, I can’t find any documentation for the possible forebears. The inscription on Thomas’s headstone reads: Terregles “”'Thos CLINT of Carlingwark d 8.12.1796 65. For honesty & probity the deceased had no superior, all who were of his acquaintance respected him while living and his two surviving sons and a daughter in testimony of their filial affection have erected this monument. Anno 1796. Also lies here Thos CLINT his son d 3.11.1790 21.'””” (Again, another brick wall as, unfortunately, the names of the sons and daughter are not given.) The contact in the Dumfries Archives was of the opinion that if Thomas Clint was referred to as Thomas Clint of Carlingwark, he had to have been a person of some standing. He was a vintner and landlord of the King’s Arms Hotel, Dumfries. His son Henry Clint followed in his father’s footsteps and it is thought that he is the Mr. Clint referred to to whom Robert Burns gave his poems to be passed on to his friend John McMurdo. I believe those poems were among a collection of bawdy poems and songs Robert Burns compiled. I was “gifted” with a copy some years back, but was a wee bitty mortified at the rank coarseness so that I either threw out the book or sent it to the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, to be added to their Burns’ Room. As Burns was living in Dumfries, and where he died, he probably knew the King’s Arms establishment well. Henry Clint then followed in his father Thomas’s footsteps as vintner and landlord of the King’s Arms Hotel, Dumfries (and which I believe is still in existence after 200 years). He and his brother John (who may be my grandfather four times removed) seem not to have been good stewards of their inheritance as the Court of Sessions, Edinburgh shows them in default of debts to a few people, ranging from Dumfries “all the way up to” Glasgow. Irene has volunteered to do some research for me when she is in Edinburgh in the spring. This will be really fine as one has to go in person to “dig” as the Court of Sessions only provide the records, no research per se, which cost £15 for an initial record and then pro rata for additional information. Jenny Myers then sent me a list of Scots legal terms, on of which is sequestration, which means bankruptcy. On this, I wonder, then, if Henry Clint lost the King’s Arms Hotel, Dumfries because of bankruptcy in 1798, two years after the death of Robert Burns in 1796. More research. Kind people on other lists have offered their opinions, so all compiled, help to fill in more of the blanks. Super thanks to to Malcolm for his unstinting kindness. We then jump south in Kirkcudbrightshire a generation, when William Clint, who could be farmer John Clint’s son, is listed as an agricultural labourer in Auchencairn,, where his wife Sarah Hyslop was born. Don’t know how they connected, but out of this union there was James Hyslop Clint (born Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire) who left Auchencairn five years after his wife Agnes McLean died. He “inadvertently” found himself a participant in the “soap opera” when he married his second wife who was from England and they started a new family. James Hyslop Clint then became captain of mines in Wales, where he would die. We have no record if he ever kept in touch with his family in Auchencairn when he moved to England. In adulthood, the Auchencairn siblings seem to have scattered to the four winds, with one son, Peter, my grandfather, ending up in Glasgow. No scandal, no nuttin’, no fortunes earned, owed or lost, except that he died too young in his late forties of myocarditis. Peter Clint’s descendants, my siblings and their offspring for a couple of more generations, seem to be run of the mill, which is a relief! It’s been some effort to put all the pieces of this family together, going back to 1738 in Carlingwark, Kirkcudbrightshire. The English records for my father’s Hillcoat family are much more complete, going as far back as the mid-1600s. Somebody did a herculean job putting all the details together. Long “story,” but it just might help others to keep in trying to find more information with the help of those on the lists who have the knack who unselfishly give of their time and efforts to dig out the information...I am indebted to them as my research skills are nil! On a last note, a few wee bon mot from the Land o’ Cakes (in deference to Robert Burns, January 25, 1759, Alloway, Ayrshire– July 21, 1796 Dumfries, Kirkcudbrightshire): ----------------------------- Then let us toast John Barleycorn, Each man a glass in hand And may his great prosperity Ne'er fail in old Scotland Maisie -------------------------------

Hi, I wrote this message to person called Scotire, but I would like an answer from anyone who knows how I would go about finding out the ownership of Drummoral after Patrick died (abt 1714). I am not sure of what time period you are looking at, but William Coltrane of Drummoral (1650 to 1708) may have had a mental breakdown in the few years before he died. (He was thought to have persecuted the Convenanters of Wigtown in the late 1600's, but not every historian agrees with this.) In the Historical Sketches of Wigtown, it states "Yet 19th May 1706 Coltrane was 'giving himself to the devil' with Drink & Swearing." I am very interested in Drummoral in that I don't know who received this land after William's only son Patrick (abt 1680 to 1714) died. McKerlie suggests that of his children, only 4 survived to majority: Henrietta, John, Patrick and David. John was killed at the Battle of Prestonpans in 1745 and David sailed to North Carolina before 1738. (No info on Patrick...may have also come to America.) If anyone knows what I need to do to find out who received the Drummoral of Whithorn property during this time period, please let me know. Thanks so much. Dorothy Coltrin BTW Drummoral is a farm not very far from Whithorn in Wigtownshire. The Google book of McKerlie mentions the farm belonging to the Parish of Whithorn on p. 471 of volume 2. Actually there is mention of a John Coltran alive in 21 Jun 1782, but I have no idea who this would be as the son of Patrick Coltran by the name of John m. Christina Heron about 1728 and then he d. in 1745. Boswell met his wife in 1762 in Kircudbright and mentions her in his papers. On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:02 PM, scotire wrote: > Session Bk. Wigtown (1934) 53: > The Session for preventing of unseasonable drinking and the usual abuses that follow thereupon do appoint Drummoral to perambulate the town this week every other night at least after the ringing of the ten hour bell. (Who was “Drummoral” and did he reside near the ancient fort at Drummoral ? ) > ------------------------------- > > Posts that include test messages, warning messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, recipes, or items for sale are not allowed. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: adam6ql Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/559.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kim Accidently came accross your post of some time ago. Did you manage to get your photo and history of Merton Hall. I live in the stable block, Merton Stables and walk past the door every day. The corner of our building was the bothy for the stables and when horses faded out we think the stable manager became the chaufer and lived in the two rooms upstairs - with outside stair case, still there. We have had a number of visitors over the years who have had a relative being born or died in the bothy. I have heard of your family name and coud try to get more info from the local farmer, whos family used to be tennent farmers in the hall. It belonged to the Boyde estate until it was sold to a private investor in about 2002. Regards Sally Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Listers, As promised, we're proceeding with "memory refreshers." Each time we change the message footer, we'll let you know. Here's something even our oldies may not be aware of. If you're on Facebook, check out Wigtownshire's People: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wigtownshires-People/340690402620110. It includes gobs of fabulous old Wig photos and comments by locals. The page owner told me he also plans to post to http://www.wigtownshirespeople.co.uk/, but it's not ready yet. In the meantime, he routes people to The Wigtownshire Pages. A nice compliment for us :-) If you're not on Facebook but want to see the photos, there are ways to sign up and stay very private. Let's not take the list on a detour about how to do this, but if you need help, feel free to contact me privately. We have lots of ideas for sharing links and FAQs. What would you like to see posted? Send your suggestions to sct-wigtownshire-admin@rootsweb.com, and we'll add them to the mix! Mary Sent from my iPad