Hi I feel it may be worth pointing out that not all Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Churchyard are included in the excellent publication "Memorial Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Old Churchyard" published by Dumfries and Galloway Family Research Centre (I have a copy dated Nov 2005). The reason is fairly simple in that the Churchyard was extended sometime in the last 90-150 years and the publication only covers Inscriptions in the Old section of the Churchyard. It is also worth noting that burials still take place in the Old Section ( presumably if a family own the lair and there is still space). However as far as I know new lairs are only now available in the New section. I dont know the earliest burial in the new section but, for example, some of my ancestors were buried there in the 1920s. This means that there is no clear cut-off date between the use of the 2 (adjacent) Churchyard burial areas. I have only recently become a subscriber and have noticed in the archives that some people, who presumably are not local, have been puzzled or disappointed that they can find no trace of ancestors in the MI booklet. If this has been pointed out before then I apologise for repeating the info. I was brought up in Kirkmaiden but now live 100 miles away and only visit the area every few months but if anyone would like me to look for a specific grave I would be happy to do so but you would have to be patient. (Contact me by email) If anyone reading this knows of plans to extend the coverage in the MI booklet I'd be grateful to know. My family interests in Kirkmaiden are McColm, Bailey, McIntyre and Marshall. And Baxters in Stranraer. Cheers Alan McColm

Hi Ailsa, I have the same understanding that the literacy rate in Wigtownshire was high. Usually, when someone was required to sign, but could not, the Registrar wrote their name, got the person to make a cross, then added "his/her mark". My guess is that the two + marks in this case have been placed there by the Registrar to indicate to the witness where to write his signature and relationship to the deceased. If you examine the handwriting of James Douglas, the witness, you will see that it is different from the remainder, which was in the hand of the Registrar. That's a good indication that James Douglas knew how to write his own name. Meg may be able to add to or correct this. She has more experience in reading civil registration records than me. Regards, Bruce Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:37:22 +1100 From: "ailsa158" <ailsa158@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] 'Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE died 1855 Kirkcowan' & '1855 Death, Ann Douglas, Kirkcowan' Many thanks again, Meg and Bruce for your help with the 1855 DC for Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE. I appreciated receiving the transcriptions, images and all your comments about the information in the DC. Bruce, it certainly does look like Ann and William were following Scottish naming patterns, which is a good clue to finding William's parents. Meg, you pointed out that there should have been more information in the DC than there was, eg there were no ages of children, nothing to say whether parents were deceased etc. I took another close look at the second of the images you sent me and discovered two " + " , signs one under the other, in the narrow column immediately to the left of the column in which the informant was supposed to sign and give his/her relationship to the deceased. I cannot read the heading of the column to the left so I do not know what the " + " signs mean. The only thought I had was that these could have been the place where an illiterate informant would make their mark if s/he could not sign his own name in the next column. I am surprised if this was the case as my understanding is that the vast majority of people from the Wigtownshire area were literate. Perhaps he had a learning difficulty which also meant he did not know the ages of his siblings! Would you know what the " + " signs mean? Kind regards, Ailsa

Many thanks again, Meg and Bruce for your help with the 1855 DC for Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE. I appreciated receiving the transcriptions, images and all your comments about the information in the DC. Bruce, it certainly does look like Ann and William were following Scottish naming patterns, which is a good clue to finding William's parents. Meg, you pointed out that there should have been more information in the DC than there was, eg there were no ages of children, nothing to say whether parents were deceased etc. I took another close look at the second of the images you sent me and discovered two " + " , signs one under the other, in the narrow column immediately to the left of the column in which the informant was supposed to sign and give his/her relationship to the deceased. I cannot read the heading of the column to the left so I do not know what the " + " signs mean. The only thought I had was that these could have been the place where an illiterate informant would make their mark if s/he could not sign his own name in the next column. I am surprised if this was the case as my understanding is that the vast majority of people from the Wigtownshire area were literate. Perhaps he had a learning difficulty which also meant he did not know the ages of his siblings! Would you know what the " + " signs mean? Kind regards, Ailsa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:59:31 +1100 From: Bruce McDowall <milldriggan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE died 1855 Kirkcowan To: ailsa158@optusnet.com.au Cc: Wig List <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAC1_HmUSMDnsX7=VisFoKqXtLudQTqYic+fpNkU148rRZ9ckvw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ailsa, *Kirckcowan Deaths 1855 No 14:* Ann Douglas F 62 years Glenluce, 13 years Thomas Dalrymple, Farmer, Isabella Dalrymple, maiden name Douglas William Douglas, Grieve Isabella, Jane, James, Margaret, Thomas, Mary Anne, William, John, Peter 1855, November 4th, 11 h A.M. Farm house of Drumwhirrie Erysipelas of Face and head, for eight days, as certified by James Gillespie Surgeon who saw deceased on 4th November 1855 Church Yard of Kirkcowan, as certified by James McKie, Sexton James Douglas, Son At Kirkcowan, November 12th, John McNaughton, Registrar >From the list of her children, her second son and first daughter were >named consistent with use of the naming tradition. Thus, it seems possible that the parents of her husband were named James and Jane. No guarantee, but something worth considering. Regards, Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:15:00 -0500 From: "Meg Greenwood {scotquester@bartnet.net}" <scotquester@bartnet.net> Subject: [WIG LIST] 1855 Death, Ann Douglas, Kirkcowan To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <514213A4.8040106@bartnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Here is the data from that 1855 Death Registration, if you would like the 2 JPGs I have for this, write back, I'll send them. Every 1855 Registration had 2 pages as the Registrar wrote left to right across the completely open book, Kirkcowan Deaths, 1855 entry #14 - Ann DOUGLAS age 62 died Glenluce, had been in Kirkcowan 13 years. Daughter of Thomas DALRYMPLE, Farmer and Isabella DALRYMPLE maiden surname DOUGLAS. She had married William DOUGLAS, occupation Grieve and had the following children : Isabella, Jane, James, Margaret, Thomas, Mary Ann, William, John and Peter. She died November 4th, 11am at the Farm House of Drumwhirrie of 'Erysipelas' of Face and Head. Certified by James Gillespie, Surgeon who saw deceased 4th November. Buried in the Churchyard of Kirkcowan, certified by James McKie, Sexton. Informant was James DOUGLAS, son. Registered November 12th at Kirkcowan, John McNaughton, Registrar. Yes, she had same married surname as her mother's maiden surname [DOUGLAS]. Ages were supposed to be given for all children whether living or dead however the Registrar did not get them, he did on the very next Registration, #15. Even if the ages were Unknown, he was supposed to write that 'ages unknown'. You'd think the Informant as a SON of the deceased would have known the ages of his siblings. Also it seems that at age 62, her parents were most likely deceased however its not noted on the Registration. Instructions were to write 'deceased' by either parent who was no longer living. There is a lot of information here, but not as much as I'd have expected. MegG in OK =========================================== ---------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:09:36 +1100 From: "ailsa158" <ailsa158@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE died 1855 Kirkcowan Hi Listers, I have a query about the parentage of Ann DALRYMPLE and her husband William DOUGLAS of Drumwherry in Kirkcowan. Ann's husband seems to be buried with a George DOUGLAS and Ann McKIE who might have been his parents. However I had thought his parents were William DOWGLAS and Jean McNAIRN of Two Mark, Old Luce. Fortunately Ann died on 4th November 1855 (at the age of 62). I checked the Wigtownshire Pages and found an Ann DOUGLAS who died in 1855 aged 62 but her death certificate has not yet been transcribed. I know the DC might not have much information about William but I thought it still might assist me to work out the relationship between William and the family he was buried with. Therefore could I ask Meg or Randy or whoever is now transcribing the 1855 death certificates to take a look at Ann DOUGLAS' DC for me? I would be very grateful to read the information it contains. With thanks, Ailsa

Having images of all the 1855 Deaths in Kirkcowan certainly helps with understanding the little marks [+ or x]. They are indeed as Bruce suggested, marks indicating where the Informant was to sign their name. Of the 16 Deaths in Kirkcowan that year, 13 had those little marks in the Informant / Witness column on the left. Signatures are specifically on the lines noted with the marks. Also, of those 16 Deaths, all but 3 were able to sign their own name, most showing the relation to the deceased [son, neighbor, husband, niece, etc]. If the Informant was unable to sign their name, instructions were to have that person make their Mark.....2 crossed lines which we say looks like an x or a + for lack of a better way to describeit. After all, a tilted x is a + though all of Kirkcowan's 3 Marks looked like a large +. The narrow 'column' they are viewed in is actually not a column at all, its bleed through from the other side of the page. This column on the other side is where the deceased's age was written [see page 1 of the set of 2 pages] and its very very narrow. Check page 2 and you can see a difference in the darkness of the line compared to known column divider lines on the same side of the page. There are also many bleed-through words from the other side which is the first page of Death #16 in the TOP entry, this DOUGLAS being the 2nd entry on the page, there are no ink marks to show through or you'd have seen the age of the person showing through [backwards]. So far, no other parishes I've delved into have had those little marks show up on the left side of the Informant/Witness column, however there being 901 parishes in Scotland back then, there are a huge amount of parishes I've not viewed. Crossed lines normally show up INSIDE the column when the Informant 'signed' like this...... His Mark or Her Mark The Informant made the crossed lines in the space provided. There was no little x or + to show where to make the Mark, only this blank space. That 'signature' [the 2 crossed lines] had to be Witnessed itself by 2 other Witnesses who signed their names in the same column [these people had to be able to sign their name, no Xs allowed as a Witness]. One could be the Registrar or anyone in that office of legal age who was available to watch the Informant make those crossed lines. There are occasions where one or two Witnesses must have come in with the Informant, both signed their names probably knowing the Informant was illiterate and it had to be done this way. Thanks for noting this, its different from any other Registrations I've viewed. The misleading 'column' from the other side also invited thinking it could have meaning though it carries no significance other than showing the Informant where to sign and put their relationship to the deceased. MegG in OK ===========================================

Wigtownshire baronies (M-Z) from “Inquisitionum Ad Capellam” vol.II. c.1543-1699 are listed below. Were any of your ancestors a Baron of one of these Baronies ? No....Barony 158 Martine Mochrum. 47, 88, 123, 124, 125, 136, 156, 186, 187, 214 91 Mongomerie 117 “ Monreith. 85, 87, 164, 165 123 Monybrick Myretoun. 54, 106, 115, 138, 169, 188 25 Myretoun-Hereis. 115 “ 146 “ 178 Myretoun-McKie 18 Penninghame 28 “ 115 “ 91 Portrie 117 “ 54 Remistoun 106 “ 174 Riccartoun 158 Rossile Saulsait. 18, 56, 71, 149 188 Slewdonald Tinwald. 27, 51, 153, 184 191 Toskertoun (end)

Wigtownshire baronies (A-L) from “Inquisitionum Ad Capellam” vol.II. c.1543-1699 are listed below. Were any of your ancestors a Baron of one of these Baronies ? No...Barony 188 Ardwell 139 Auchowane 102 Bisbie (Busby) 94 Cardrois 20 Corswell 52 “ 60 “ 95 “ 96 “ 154 “ 50 Craigcaffie 106 Culcreoch 115 “ 174 Currie 24 Dalswontoun 158 Drem 46 Drumastoun 134 “ 155 “ 34 Eytoun 92 “ 122 “ 81 Friethrid 161 “ 96 Garfland 117 “ 20 Garthland 154 “ 174 “ 188 “ 207 Gelstoun 28 Glasnycht 24 Glassertoun Glenluce 18, 70, 83, 84, 150, 189 25 Hereis 63 Innernessane 134 “ 155 “ Kinhilt 33, 49, 79, 91, 117 Leswalt 45, 96, 123, 136, 149, 155, 156 Logan 43, 48, 135, 191

Yes you should get both parents if legimate Robert Ambrose > From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 01:00:48 -0600 > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ******************************************************************************** > > 11 Feb 2013 > All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. > > ******************************************************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Information on marriage certificate (Barbara McLean) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:52:05 -0700 > From: "Barbara McLean" <malcolmsmom@verizon.net> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Information on marriage certificate > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <042701ce2195$0b4f4070$21edc150$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give > the parents of the bride and groom's names? > > > > Barbara McLean > > Murrieta, CA > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 > ***********************************************

Book “Reports on the state of certain parishes in Scotland” AD1627. pp.207-223 Wigtownshire. i.e. p.210 Barrounrie of Lochrounell ( M’Dowellis ) – list of lands pp.218-9 Robert M’Cullochis of Drummourell. http://archive.org/stream/reportsonstatec00courgoog#page/n234/mode/2up

That last attempt at a reply was badly written.   This hopefully is clearer.   Hi Barbara, For a start you don't need to 'order Scottish Certificates' if they relate to the period post 1854 period, unless they are very recent in which case an image may not be available. Use Scotlandspeople website to buy some credits (30 at atime).  Use Search to locate the certificate (cost = 1 credit), then download and view the certificate online and save the image (cost = 5 credits). Prior to 1855 there are NO certificates, you download a page from the Old Parochial Register which records the Declaration to Marry and gives the date and places where that declaration was read in the kirk. It will have been rea in both kirks if the couple came from different parishes. The post 1854 certificate lists all the information you are looking for and more. The pre 1855 records are more brief and rarely give much more than the names of the couple, they may not even record that the couple actually took place at some later date. Cheers, Sandy   Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:34:37 +0000 From: Eddie Myles <jin49tie@sky.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 To: "sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8CE42689-5108-43F8-AE90-D2A82EF23A48@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scottish marriage certificates do give names of both the bride and groom's parents. They also include When, where and how married, signatures of both bride and groom, age, residence, rank or profession, parents and profession, witnesses and officiating minister. As you an see they provide a lot of information. I hope that has been helpful. > > **************************************************************************************************************************************************************** Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:52:05 -0700 > From: "Barbara McLean" <malcolmsmom@verizon.net> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Information on marriage certificate > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <042701ce2195$0b4f4070$21edc150$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give > the parents of the bride and groom's names? > > Barbara McLean > > Murrieta, CA

Hi Barbara, For a start you don't need to 'order Scottish Certificates' if they relate to the period post 1854 period, unless they are very recent. Use Scotlandspeople to buy some credits, then download and view the certificate online and save the image. Prior to 1855 there are NO certificates, you download a page from the Old Parochial Register which records the Declaration to Marry and the reading date and places where that declaration was read in the kirk.  Often in two different Kirks if the couple came from different parishes. The former gives all the post 1854 certificate lists all the information already stated, the pre 1855 records rarely give much more than the names of the couple, they may not even record that the couple actually were married.   Cheers, Sandy   Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:34:37 +0000 From: Eddie Myles <jin49tie@sky.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 To: "sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8CE42689-5108-43F8-AE90-D2A82EF23A48@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scottish marriage certificates do give names of both the bride and groom's parents. They also include When, where and how married, signatures of both bride and groom, age, residence, rank or profession, parents and profession, witnesses and officiating minister. As you an see they provide a lot of information. I hope that has been helpful. > > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to > ******************************************************************************** Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:52:05 -0700 > From: "Barbara McLean" <malcolmsmom@verizon.net> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Information on marriage certificate > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <042701ce2195$0b4f4070$21edc150$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give > the parents of the bride and groom's names? > > Barbara McLean > > Murrieta, CA

> 1. Information on marriage certificate (Barbara McLean) > > I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give > the parents of the bride and groom's names? > > Barbara McLean > > Murrieta, CA > > REPLY It depends on when the marriage was. If it was on or after the 1st January 1855 then yes, it should give the names of the parents of both bride and groom. Statutory Registration started on 1st Jan that year. If it was before that, then it's only an entry in a parish register ...and the information in these varies ...can be no more than the date and the names of the bride and groom ...or occasionally it'll give you the name of the father of the bride. Where are you ordering it from? Scotlandspeople will supply an image of a marriage up to 1938..much cheaper than ordering a certified copy Irene

Scottish marriage certificates do give names of both the bride and groom's parents. They also include When, where and how married, signatures of both bride and groom, age, residence, rank or profession, parents and profession, witnesses and officiating minister. As you an see they provide a lot of information. I hope that has been helpful. Sent from Janette's iPhone On 16 Mar 2013, at 07:00, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ******************************************************************************** > > 11 Feb 2013 > All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. > > ******************************************************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Information on marriage certificate (Barbara McLean) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:52:05 -0700 > From: "Barbara McLean" <malcolmsmom@verizon.net> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Information on marriage certificate > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <042701ce2195$0b4f4070$21edc150$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give > the parents of the bride and groom's names? > > > > Barbara McLean > > Murrieta, CA > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 > ***********************************************

I've never ordered a Scottish marriage certificate before - would it give the parents of the bride and groom's names? Barbara McLean Murrieta, CA

Hi Ailsa, *Kirckcowan Deaths 1855 No 14:* * * Ann Douglas F 62 years Glenluce, 13 years Thomas Dalrymple, Farmer, Isabella Dalrymple, maiden name Douglas William Douglas, Grieve Isabella, Jane, James, Margaret, Thomas, Mary Anne, William, John, Peter 1855, November 4th, 11 h A.M. Farm house of Drumwhirrie Erysipelas of Face and head, for eight days, as certified by James Gillespie Surgeon who saw deceased on 4th November 1855 Church Yard of Kirkcowan, as certified by James McKie, Sexton James Douglas, Son At Kirkcowan, November 12th, John McNaughton, Registrar >From the list of her children, her second son and first daughter were named consistent with use of the naming tradition. Thus, it seems possible that the parents of her husband were named James and Jane. No guarantee, but something worth considering. Regards, Bruce Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:09:36 +1100 From: "ailsa158" <ailsa158@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Ann DOUGLAS nee DALRYMPLE died 1855 Kirkcowan Hi Listers, I have a query about the parentage of Ann DALRYMPLE and her husband William DOUGLAS of Drumwherry in Kirkcowan. Ann's husband seems to be buried with a George DOUGLAS and Ann McKIE who might have been his parents. However I had thought his parents were William DOWGLAS and Jean McNAIRN of Two Mark, Old Luce. Fortunately Ann died on 4th November 1855 (at the age of 62). I checked the Wigtownshire Pages and found an Ann DOUGLAS who died in 1855 aged 62 but her death certificate has not yet been transcribed. I know the DC might not have much information about William but I thought it still might assist me to work out the relationship between William and the family he was buried with. Therefore could I ask Meg or Randy or whoever is now transcribing the 1855 death certificates to take a look at Ann DOUGLAS' DC for me? I would be very grateful to read the information it contains. With thanks, Ailsa

Hi Listers, I have a query about the parentage of Ann DALRYMPLE and her husband William DOUGLAS of Drumwherry in Kirkcowan. Ann's husband seems to be buried with a George DOUGLAS and Ann McKIE who might have been his parents. However I had thought his parents were William DOWGLAS and Jean McNAIRN of Two Mark, Old Luce. Fortunately Ann died on 4th November 1855 (at the age of 62). I checked the Wigtownshire Pages and found an Ann DOUGLAS who died in 1855 aged 62 but her death certificate has not yet been transcribed. I know the DC might not have much information about William but I thought it still might assist me to work out the relationship between William and the family he was buried with. Therefore could I ask Meg or Randy or whoever is now transcribing the 1855 death certificates to take a look at Ann DOUGLAS' DC for me? I would be very grateful to read the information it contains. With thanks, Ailsa

Here is the data from that 1855 Death Registration, if you would like the 2 JPGs I have for this, write back, I'll send them. Every 1855 Registration had 2 pages as the Registrar wrote left to right across the completely open book, Kirkcowan Deaths, 1855 entry #14 - Ann DOUGLAS age 62 died Glenluce, had been in Kirkcowan 13 years. Daughter of Thomas DALRYMPLE, Farmer and Isabella DALRYMPLE maiden surname DOUGLAS. She had married William DOUGLAS, occupation Grieve and had the following children : Isabella, Jane, James, Margaret, Thomas, Mary Ann, William, John and Peter. She died November 4th, 11am at the Farm House of Drumwhirrie of 'Erysipelas' of Face and Head. Certified by James Gillespie, Surgeon who saw deceased 4th November. Buried in the Churchyard of Kirkcowan, certified by James McKie, Sexton. Informant was James DOUGLAS, son. Registered November 12th at Kirkcowan, John McNaughton, Registrar. Yes, she had same married surname as her mother's maiden surname [DOUGLAS]. Ages were supposed to be given for all children whether living or dead however the Registrar did not get them, he did on the very next Registration, #15. Even if the ages were Unknown, he was supposed to write that 'ages unknown'. You'd think the Informant as a SON of the deceased would have known the ages of his siblings. Also it seems that at age 62, her parents were most likely deceased however its not noted on the Registration. Instructions were to write 'deceased' by either parent who was no longer living. There is a lot of information here, but not as much as I'd have expected. MegG in OK ===========================================

"The Life of John Ruskin", W.G. Collingwood. Project gutenburg. Translater - James Ross. - In 1721 Thomas Adair succeeded his father, and, retiring with his captaincy, settled on the estate. He married Jean, daughter of Andrew Ross of Balsarroch and Balkail. On 3 May 1759 Mary Ross had sasine. Mary Ross of Balkail / Balkeil / Balkeel, Wigtownshire m. John Neilson of Craigcaffie, Parish of Inch, Wigtownshire. Belfast Newsletter Index. 76170 p.2. 14 Feb 1772 Let parks Craigcaffie, farm houses, office houses, Stranraer, Scotland. John Neilson. enquire Dr. Ross, Belfast, Ireland.

Another Wigtownshire barony to add to the list. Scottish Arms: being A Collection of Armorial Bearings A.D. 1370-1678, vol II, by R. R. Stodart, pub. Edinburgh, 1881, page 274: "NEILSOUN OF KILCAWFE OR CRAIGCAFFIE. This coat was altered before the registration, 1672-78, by Gilbert Neilsone of Craigcaffie . Johannis, son of Nigelli de Carrick, had several charters of lands, including Kellechaffe in Gallovidia, from Robert I. Craigcaffie, which was erected into a barony in the sixteenth century, remained in possession of the Neilsons till far on in the eighteenth. ref: Register of the Great Seal of Scotland. vol.I. A.D.1306-1424. page 551. Index A no.616, Index B no.10.

The Dalrymples who came on the Jackie from Port Stranraer, 1775, are the progenitors of the North Carolina Dalrymple line. No connection with those from Ireland who went to New Jersey unless in earlier times. Carolyn Achata Tennessee -- Carolyn Achata

I was searching for someone else in ship lists and remembered reading an earlier post about Darymple. Just thought I'd let you know that I stumbled upon this: (ship name) JACKIE OF GLASGOW From Stanraer to North Carolina, May 1775 DALRYMPLE, John, 40, farmer, and wife GORDON, Margaret, and children Mary, 19, John, 17, Archibald, 15, James, 11, Ann, 9, Janet, 7, Jean, 5, William, 2; New Luce Karen Author: leslie15316 Surnames: Dalrymple, Walker, New Jersey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2161/mb .ashx Message Board Post: Of all the Dalrymple's who emigrated to America one family is unique in its DNA - and that is the Dalrymple family in New Jersey in the 18th Century. All other Dalrymples in America who have had Ydna tested are related in some degree but not to us ! At the same time in NJ, the Dalrymples of Stair were active legally - and as land owners ! We are searching for male Dalrymples in Scotland and Northern Ireland for free Y-DNA testing in order to promote research on our Dalrymple / Walker families of New Jersey. Also looking for the related Walker family who went to Loudoun Co., VA before 1757. Please respond to: DalrympleWalkerDNAResearch@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 42 ***********************************************