Have watched this topic for the last few days and thought I had more Kirkmaiden residents in my family, they turned out to be Stoneykirk places. Found online a LIST of the PLACES in Kirkmaiden though the placenames are current : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_listed_buildings_in_Kirkmaiden,_Dumfries_and_Galloway Short URL http://goo.gl/PKGq4 By clikking a location [co-ordinates] in the list, a kinda complicated page will appear however there is a link for Google Maps right above the words GLOBAL SERVICES. That button gives me a map of the location that I can zoom in or out of. Clikking ANY of the others listed there are also just maps. Along the LEFT is BING MAPS, that is the only one my computer brought right up in a satellite view when I clicked AERIAL. Green trees, roads, houses, shorelines, plowed fields, etc. WAY over on the upper right are the zoom buttons. Hitting any zoom got rid of the annoying MARKER right on top of the house so I could actually see the area as if I was flying over it in a plane. There is no AUCHNEIGHT in the list of current places however there is an AUCHNESS - Farmhouse and Cottage. Can see I'll be occupied for awhile..... Of interest at AUCHNEIGHT in Kirkmaiden are McGUFFOG, MURRAY and BONE families. Is that how this big placename map works ??? I can ask about a farm name and learn who else might have been there ? That can certainly work for me ! Knowing other surnames at those places might give me clues of family members who stayed right there. James MURRAY and wife Mary BONE wed 1839 in Kirkmaiden, many of their 8 children were born Auchneight but it seems not all were. The last ones, twins William and Andrew, were born Drumbreddan, Stoneykirk 1855 so they must have moved by then. Mary BONE's parents were Robert BONE and Jinat McGUFFOG, they lived Auchneight early 1800s. McGUFFOGs were in Drumore, Kirkmaiden around 1800. Since that list of Kirkmaiden places turned up with co-ordinates, surely other places will do likewise. I had Googled for these words : kirkmaiden farmhouse names. There was ONE listing right near the top of the return page that had Wikipedia link for : List of listed buildings in Kirkmaiden, Dumfries and Galloway . Will try it again for Stoneykirk....Yes ! Same return list, same format for Stoneykirk placenames spelled similar to ones I see for more of my older family names at Ardwell, Cairnwell and Drumbreddan. I see lunch being forgotten today......Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ======================================================= ** <http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_listed_buildings_in_Kirkmaiden%2C_Dumfries_and_Galloway&ei=LAxTUZyWOYTs2AXYnoHwBQ&usg=AFQjCNELrRe7HUMz-XzD_3FFJ_un3xAZbA&bvm=bv.44342787,d.b2I> On 3/27/2013 2:00 AM, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ******************************************************************************** > > 11 Feb 2013 > All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. > > ******************************************************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Krikmaiden Farms (BlueJuly@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:09:28 -0400 (EDT) > From: BlueJuly@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Krikmaiden Farms > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4295.721d5a95.3e835a78@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Would love to see the information contained in Kirkmaiden Farms display in > some kind of printed form. My main family of interest is Jamieson. The > photos on Facebook are great and thanks for mentioning this source. > > Betty Hagberg > Moline, IL > > > In a message dated 3/24/2013 2:40:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:32:15 +0000 > From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Kirkmaiden farms - Kelton > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <66BC1D10-8F15-42E7-B7DD-5EBF1D3D33C4@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Sue and Listers > The list of tenants takes the form of a large map (about 6 feet square) > with a display of the surnames of farmers linked to each farm. It is on > display in the Information Centre in Drummore which has limited opening hours > and is manned by volunteers. I'm afraid I don't know if it has an email > address nor who the current committee are. > In the summer I plan to visit the Info Centre and offer to record the > details in some type of list if that has not already been done. > A photographic record of the map appears on the Facebook site 'I Love > Drummore' - it is shown under 'Photos' and is dated Sept 28 2012. > I had a look at it and it confirms your info - Kelton is shown at Logan > Mill from 1841 to 1890. I couldn't see the Kelton name in any other farms. > Prior to 1841 the mill was tenanted by Beggs and from 1890 by the Logan Estate > who presumably managed it themselves. > Hope this helps > Alan > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 59 > *********************************************** >

Would love to see the information contained in Kirkmaiden Farms display in some kind of printed form. My main family of interest is Jamieson. The photos on Facebook are great and thanks for mentioning this source. Betty Hagberg Moline, IL In a message dated 3/24/2013 2:40:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:32:15 +0000 From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> Subject: [WIG LIST] Kirkmaiden farms - Kelton To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <66BC1D10-8F15-42E7-B7DD-5EBF1D3D33C4@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Sue and Listers The list of tenants takes the form of a large map (about 6 feet square) with a display of the surnames of farmers linked to each farm. It is on display in the Information Centre in Drummore which has limited opening hours and is manned by volunteers. I'm afraid I don't know if it has an email address nor who the current committee are. In the summer I plan to visit the Info Centre and offer to record the details in some type of list if that has not already been done. A photographic record of the map appears on the Facebook site 'I Love Drummore' - it is shown under 'Photos' and is dated Sept 28 2012. I had a look at it and it confirms your info - Kelton is shown at Logan Mill from 1841 to 1890. I couldn't see the Kelton name in any other farms. Prior to 1841 the mill was tenanted by Beggs and from 1890 by the Logan Estate who presumably managed it themselves. Hope this helps Alan

Hi Diana, I was wondering what year/s your list of tenants in Stoneykirk Parish covers. With thanks, Ailsa

Hello Alan - thank you for the extra information, it really does help, although I have seen this map at the Drummore information centre, on my first visit to Wigtownshire in 2001. The volunteer there put me in touch with another historian to whom I wrote and who replied with information about the William Kelton who married into the local McCrone family. He was the brother of my great grandfather John Kelton who moved to Glasgow around 1880s (there in the 1881 census) The research continues, thanks to all the hints and links from this list! Sue 1. Kirkmaiden farms - Kelton (Alan McColm) 2. Re: McWhirter - trying to confirm Stoneykirk Wigtown connection (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 3. Re: Wigtownshire Families (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 4. Re: McWhirter - trying to confirm Stoneykirk Wigtown connection (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:32:15 +0000 From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> Subject: [WIG LIST] Kirkmaiden farms - Kelton To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <66BC1D10-8F15-42E7-B7DD-5EBF1D3D33C4@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Sue and Listers The list of tenants takes the form of a large map (about 6 feet square) with a display of the surnames of farmers linked to each farm. It is on display in the Information Centre in Drummore which has limited opening hours and is manned by volunteers. I'm afraid I don't know if it has an email address nor who the current committee are. In the summer I plan to visit the Info Centre and offer to record the details in some type of list if that has not already been done. A photographic record of the map appears on the Facebook site 'I Love Drummore' - it is shown under 'Photos' and is dated Sept 28 2012. I had a look at it and it confirms your info - Kelton is shown at Logan Mill from 1841 to 1890. I couldn't see the Kelton name in any other farms. Prior to 1841 the mill was tenanted by Beggs and from 1890 by the Logan Estate who presumably managed it themselves. Hope this helps Alan > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 56 ***********************************************

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Dear Alan and List, regarding the list of tenant farmers in Kirkmaiden, I have compiled the same for the tenant farmers of Stoneykirk parish, this was started by John McColm your uncle along with Andrew Blackwood. I have put it in the Visitor centre in Drummore as there was nowhere in Stoneykirk to house it.  Of course I have a copy here if anyone wants to know about the tenants of Stoneykirk parish.  This was compiled mainly from the Valuation Rolls but also from other sources as well. Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: apalmer1662 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2159.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks. Your McWhirter details tally with my investigation. From your reponse, and postings on other chatrooms it seems that my Jean/Jane McWhirter is the daughter of William b.1781 and Jane Parker b. abt 1814. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sparnud Surnames: McWhirter, Jolly, McCulloch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/648.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wayne, please add me to the list. My wife's family connection to Stoneykirk are - McWhirter, Jolly, McCulloch. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sparnud Surnames: McQuirter, Kennedy, McCargo Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2159.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Patrick McWhirter and Jean Kennedy had (as far as I know) the following children all born at Stoneykirk - Peter/Patrick b. 25/11/1774, John b. 23/1/1776, Anthony b. 27/8/1778, Alexander b. 6/4/1780, William b. 24/7/1781, Jean b. 12/11/1784. Anthony married Isabella McCargo and were my wife's great great grandparents. I have not researched any of the other children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Sue and Listers The list of tenants takes the form of a large map (about 6 feet square) with a display of the surnames of farmers linked to each farm. It is on display in the Information Centre in Drummore which has limited opening hours and is manned by volunteers. I'm afraid I don't know if it has an email address nor who the current committee are. In the summer I plan to visit the Info Centre and offer to record the details in some type of list if that has not already been done. A photographic record of the map appears on the Facebook site 'I Love Drummore' - it is shown under 'Photos' and is dated Sept 28 2012. I had a look at it and it confirms your info - Kelton is shown at Logan Mill from 1841 to 1890. I couldn't see the Kelton name in any other farms. Prior to 1841 the mill was tenanted by Beggs and from 1890 by the Logan Estate who presumably managed it themselves. Hope this helps Alan > > > 3. Re: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 54 Re: Tenant > farmers in Kirkmaiden (sue broad) > > > - >> >> > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:03:18 +1300 > From: "sue broad" <tomsuebroad@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 54 Re: > Tenant farmers in Kirkmaiden > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAASvu4CpAArUKN39CX8G9bCsKAAAAQAAAAxVDCH2wR+0W/lxnJjmjw2QEAAAAA@xtra.co.nz> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Alan - is the list you mention in your email of 19 march, which your > father compiled of the Kirkmaiden farmers, available for research? My > forbears were Keltons who ran the mill in the parish for several decades, > certainly from 1841 until around 1881. > Sue Broad > (Nee Kelton) >

Hello Alan - is the list you mention in your email of 19 march, which your father compiled of the Kirkmaiden farmers, available for research? My forbears were Keltons who ran the mill in the parish for several decades, certainly from 1841 until around 1881. Sue Broad (Nee Kelton) >> From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> >> Subject: Re: George McBride of McBRYDE >> Date: 19 March 2013 22:44:58 GMT >> To: "Janet" <jmartin17@gmail.com> >> >> Hi Janet >> >> Happy to help - a couple of co-incidences to tell you about! >> >> But first - High Curghie farm is in the Parish of Kirkmaiden which includes the village of Drummore and the Mull of Galloway - the most southerly point in Scotland. Also High Curghie is adjacent to the small village/hamlet also called Kirkmaiden which contains about 6 houses and the Church. In fact the farm is less than 200 yards from the Churchyard. So If George McBride was buried locally here it would be in Kirkmaiden Churchyard. There is definitely no mention of him in the booklet of Monumental Inscriptions in the Old Churchyard so it is likely he would be buried in the new Churchyard which is not covered by the booklet. I was there yesterday but I live 100 miles away so only visit every few months. Next time I visit I could look for his grave - there are approx 100-200 in the new Churchyard. Or there may be a local Lister who could do it sooner. >> >> Coincidence 1 :About 25 years ago my late father compiled a list of tenants of all the farms in Kirkmaiden. It shows G McBride as tenant of High Curghie from 1838 until 1857. >> >> Coincidence 2: The tenant who followed George was my Great great grandfather Charles McIntyre who farmed there from 1857 until 1872. My great grandfather James McIntyre was born there in 1869. He undertook a trip to Australia in 1889 to visit 2 uncles who had a shipping business (I think in Melbourne). He then returned to farm Logan Mains. >> >> I am new to this list and my first reply to you was direct to your email as it was easy for me to do. I guess I should have it posted on the wiglist page so that others can see it and possibly build on my info.I will try to do that. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan ------------------------------

Alan,       I looked up in both Old and New Inch kirkyards and didn't find George McBride.  I looked under all spellings, including Bride.   Marc --- On Fri, 3/22/13, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 54 To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 3:00 AM ********************************************************************************     When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.     ********************************************************************************     11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics:    1. Re: George McBride of Kirkmaiden (Alan McColm)    2. Re: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 (Clayton Wallace) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:21:05 +0000 From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] George McBride of Kirkmaiden To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <F1A8A89A-3E19-4999-9013-174B713B1B96@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Hi I found from the 1851 census on Freecen that George McBride was born in Inch parish. Perhaps he was returned there for burial in a family lair as it is only 20 miles from High Curghie to Inch Churchyard? If anyone has MI info for Inch would they mind looking George up? Alan > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:56:03 +0000 > From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Fwd: George McBride of Kirkmaiden > To: post wiglist <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BB90A6B2-2F96-45D4-8924-E656D5A04838@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Listers > I have forwarded the email chain below which started when I sent a reply direct to Janet, the poster of an archived post from 17 Oct 2012. My reply may be helpful to Janet and others so I hope it can be attached to her original post (I dont know how to do that - sorry). > If someone could explain how to do it I can probably contribute to some other archived posts about Kirkmaiden > Thank you and Regards > Alan > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> >> Subject: Re: George McBride of McBRYDE >> Date: 19 March 2013 22:44:58 GMT >> To: "Janet" <jmartin17@gmail.com> >> >> Hi Janet >> >> Happy to help - a couple of co-incidences to tell you about! >> >> But first - High Curghie farm is in the Parish of Kirkmaiden which includes the village of Drummore and the Mull of Galloway - the most southerly point in Scotland. Also High Curghie is adjacent to the small village/hamlet also called  Kirkmaiden which contains about 6 houses and the Church. In fact the farm is less than 200 yards from the Churchyard. So If George McBride was buried locally here it would be in Kirkmaiden Churchyard. There is definitely no mention of him in the booklet of Monumental Inscriptions in the Old Churchyard so it is likely he would be buried in the new Churchyard which is not covered by the booklet. I was there yesterday but I live 100 miles away so only visit every few months. Next time I visit I could look for his grave - there are approx  100-200 in the new Churchyard. Or there may be a local Lister who could do it sooner. >> >> Coincidence 1 :About 25 years ago my late father compiled a list of tenants of all the farms in Kirkmaiden. It shows G McBride as tenant of High Curghie from 1838 until 1857. >> >> Coincidence 2: The tenant who followed George was my Great great grandfather Charles McIntyre who farmed there from 1857 until 1872. My great grandfather James McIntyre was born there in 1869. He undertook a trip to Australia in 1889 to visit 2 uncles who had a shipping business (I think in Melbourne). He then returned to farm Logan Mains. >> >> I am new to this list and my first reply to you was direct to your email as it was easy for me to do. I guess I should have it posted on the wiglist page so that others can see it and possibly build on my info.I will try to do that. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >> On 19 Mar 2013, at 21:34, Janet wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Alan, for your reply. >>> >>> No I never did get a reply. >>> The only thing I have to go on at this stage is that for the 1851 Census he was living at Hugh Curghie, Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire, and he died in 1856. As a surgeon and farmer, I would have thought that he would have a headstone. >>> I'll probably have to take a look at his death certificate for more details. >>> >>> Thank you so much for your time, >>> Janet >>> Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Alan McColm >>> Sent: 20 March, 2013 00:07 >>> To: jmartin17@gmail.com >>> Subject: George McBride >>> >>> Hi >>> Did you ever get a reply to your question on George McBride last October? >>> I have recently joined the Wiglist and have been searching the archives. I have the booklet Monumental Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Old Churchyard. There is no mention of your George. >>> There are at least 3 possibilities to explain this: >>> 1. It is not this Kirkmaiden (near Drummore). There is another Kirkmaiden in Wigtownshire - near Whithorn >>> 2. He is buried in the new section of the Churchyard which has not yet been recorded. >>> 3. He is buried there but without a headstone. >>> If you are sure he died in Kirkmaiden near Drummore - he may be in the new Churchyard. From your census record you should be able to see the address - if you let me know I'll tell you which is the most likely Churchyard >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Alan >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 52 > *********************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:09:56 -0700 From: "Clayton Wallace" <claytonwallace@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <54FFDBE79CE8499DBF8A8C62809EF000@ClaysPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hello, Bonnie, Thank you for writing.  There are certainly a lot of Wallaces in Wigtownshire.  And to make things even more difficult it seems to me that at least half of them are named either John or James. So, my connection is John Wallace and Elizabeth Campble (or Campbell) giving us James b. 1805, and after he married Ann Wright in 1858, they had a son John born in 1859 who married Sarah Simons and then everyone moved to Canada.  John/James/John and their wives are all either from Portpatrick or Stoneykirk.   I haven't been able to go further back than John and Elizabeth so far, but I'm still new at this.  Each had brother and sisters, and most likely everyone is connected at some point, but I haven't run into your family yet.  I'll keep working my way back, and someday, perhaps we'll find a common ancestor. Kind regards, Clay Wallace Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: BONNIE BEA GREINER <1beeotchemom@bellsouth.net> Subject: [WIG LIST] Wallace in Wigtownshire To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1363795125.71690.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Clayton Wallace. I am a Wallace & my Wallace family lived in Wigtownshire area for many years. Alexander Wallace b. 1844 Newton-Stewart (m. Agnes Jane Richardson), Thomas Wallace b. abt 1806 New Luce (m. Jane Wield), Alexander Wallace b. 1776 New Luce (m. Jean Thorburn), Thomas Wallace b. 1746 New Luce (m. Agnes Neilson), Michael Wallace b. perthshire but d. abt 1770 New Luce (m Janet Ogilvie(y)) Most of these marriages took place in New Luce, Old Luce, or Inch. Any of these names ring a bell with you?? Bonnie BONNIE GREINER ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Dear Alan and List, I don't know how to remove the other messages from the Digest Mode so have to reply on a new message. There is no record of a stone from George McBride in either DGFHS book for Inch parish graveyards. There are a few other McBride's and several McBryde's all female as far as I can see, two married to farmers there, and one a James McBryde farmer in Balker. It appears he would have had some connection to Inch parish. Greetings from a snow bound Wigtownshire this morning, and blowing from the East. Diana

Hello, Bonnie, Thank you for writing. There are certainly a lot of Wallaces in Wigtownshire. And to make things even more difficult it seems to me that at least half of them are named either John or James. So, my connection is John Wallace and Elizabeth Campble (or Campbell) giving us James b. 1805, and after he married Ann Wright in 1858, they had a son John born in 1859 who married Sarah Simons and then everyone moved to Canada. John/James/John and their wives are all either from Portpatrick or Stoneykirk. I haven't been able to go further back than John and Elizabeth so far, but I'm still new at this. Each had brother and sisters, and most likely everyone is connected at some point, but I haven't run into your family yet. I'll keep working my way back, and someday, perhaps we'll find a common ancestor. Kind regards, Clay Wallace Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: BONNIE BEA GREINER <1beeotchemom@bellsouth.net> Subject: [WIG LIST] Wallace in Wigtownshire To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1363795125.71690.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Clayton Wallace. I am a Wallace & my Wallace family lived in Wigtownshire area for many years. Alexander Wallace b. 1844 Newton-Stewart (m. Agnes Jane Richardson), Thomas Wallace b. abt 1806 New Luce (m. Jane Wield), Alexander Wallace b. 1776 New Luce (m. Jean Thorburn), Thomas Wallace b. 1746 New Luce (m. Agnes Neilson), Michael Wallace b. perthshire but d. abt 1770 New Luce (m Janet Ogilvie(y)) Most of these marriages took place in New Luce, Old Luce, or Inch. Any of these names ring a bell with you?? Bonnie BONNIE GREINER ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 ***********************************************

> Hi I found from the 1851 census on Freecen that George McBride was born in Inch parish. Perhaps he was returned there for burial in a family lair as it is only 20 miles from High Curghie to Inch Churchyard? If anyone has MI info for Inch would they mind looking George up? Alan > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:56:03 +0000 > From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Fwd: George McBride of Kirkmaiden > To: post wiglist <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BB90A6B2-2F96-45D4-8924-E656D5A04838@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Listers > I have forwarded the email chain below which started when I sent a reply direct to Janet, the poster of an archived post from 17 Oct 2012. My reply may be helpful to Janet and others so I hope it can be attached to her original post (I dont know how to do that - sorry). > If someone could explain how to do it I can probably contribute to some other archived posts about Kirkmaiden > Thank you and Regards > Alan > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> >> Subject: Re: George McBride of McBRYDE >> Date: 19 March 2013 22:44:58 GMT >> To: "Janet" <jmartin17@gmail.com> >> >> Hi Janet >> >> Happy to help - a couple of co-incidences to tell you about! >> >> But first - High Curghie farm is in the Parish of Kirkmaiden which includes the village of Drummore and the Mull of Galloway - the most southerly point in Scotland. Also High Curghie is adjacent to the small village/hamlet also called Kirkmaiden which contains about 6 houses and the Church. In fact the farm is less than 200 yards from the Churchyard. So If George McBride was buried locally here it would be in Kirkmaiden Churchyard. There is definitely no mention of him in the booklet of Monumental Inscriptions in the Old Churchyard so it is likely he would be buried in the new Churchyard which is not covered by the booklet. I was there yesterday but I live 100 miles away so only visit every few months. Next time I visit I could look for his grave - there are approx 100-200 in the new Churchyard. Or there may be a local Lister who could do it sooner. >> >> Coincidence 1 :About 25 years ago my late father compiled a list of tenants of all the farms in Kirkmaiden. It shows G McBride as tenant of High Curghie from 1838 until 1857. >> >> Coincidence 2: The tenant who followed George was my Great great grandfather Charles McIntyre who farmed there from 1857 until 1872. My great grandfather James McIntyre was born there in 1869. He undertook a trip to Australia in 1889 to visit 2 uncles who had a shipping business (I think in Melbourne). He then returned to farm Logan Mains. >> >> I am new to this list and my first reply to you was direct to your email as it was easy for me to do. I guess I should have it posted on the wiglist page so that others can see it and possibly build on my info.I will try to do that. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >> On 19 Mar 2013, at 21:34, Janet wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Alan, for your reply. >>> >>> No I never did get a reply. >>> The only thing I have to go on at this stage is that for the 1851 Census he was living at Hugh Curghie, Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire, and he died in 1856. As a surgeon and farmer, I would have thought that he would have a headstone. >>> I'll probably have to take a look at his death certificate for more details. >>> >>> Thank you so much for your time, >>> Janet >>> Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Alan McColm >>> Sent: 20 March, 2013 00:07 >>> To: jmartin17@gmail.com >>> Subject: George McBride >>> >>> Hi >>> Did you ever get a reply to your question on George McBride last October? >>> I have recently joined the Wiglist and have been searching the archives. I have the booklet Monumental Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Old Churchyard. There is no mention of your George. >>> There are at least 3 possibilities to explain this: >>> 1. It is not this Kirkmaiden (near Drummore). There is another Kirkmaiden in Wigtownshire - near Whithorn >>> 2. He is buried in the new section of the Churchyard which has not yet been recorded. >>> 3. He is buried there but without a headstone. >>> If you are sure he died in Kirkmaiden near Drummore - he may be in the new Churchyard. From your census record you should be able to see the address - if you let me know I'll tell you which is the most likely Churchyard >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Alan >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 52 > ***********************************************

> > Hi > I feel it may be worth pointing out that not all Inscriptions in > Kirkmaiden Churchyard are included in the excellent publication "Memorial > Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Old Churchyard" published by Dumfries and > Galloway Family Research Centre (I have a copy dated Nov 2005). > If anyone reading this knows of plans to extend the coverage in the MI > booklet I'd be grateful to know. > My family interests in Kirkmaiden are McColm, Bailey, McIntyre and > Marshall. And Baxters in Stranraer. > Cheers Alan McColm > > REPLY Hi Alan The D&G FHS would be more than happy to extend the coverage of the Kirkmaiden MIs...what we need are volunteers to go round and record the inscriptions. Or alternatively someone competent with a camera who can take clear sharp photos which can be deciphered and read on a screen.... in some sort of order so that a plan can be drawn. Any volunteers??? <g> Irene (FHS publications person)

Hi Clayton Wallace. I am a Wallace & my Wallace family lived in Wigtownshire area for many years. Alexander Wallace b. 1844 Newton-Stewart (m. Agnes Jane Richardson), Thomas Wallace b. abt 1806 New Luce (m. Jane Wield), Alexander Wallace b. 1776 New Luce (m. Jean Thorburn), Thomas Wallace b. 1746 New Luce (m. Agnes Neilson), Michael Wallace b. perthshire but d. abt 1770 New Luce (m Janet Ogilvie(y)) Most of these marriages took place in New Luce, Old Luce, or Inch. Any of these names ring a bell with you?  Bonnie BONNIE GREINER

Hi Listers I have forwarded the email chain below which started when I sent a reply direct to Janet, the poster of an archived post from 17 Oct 2012. My reply may be helpful to Janet and others so I hope it can be attached to her original post (I dont know how to do that - sorry). If someone could explain how to do it I can probably contribute to some other archived posts about Kirkmaiden Thank you and Regards Alan Begin forwarded message: > From: Alan McColm <mccolm@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: George McBride of McBRYDE > Date: 19 March 2013 22:44:58 GMT > To: "Janet" <jmartin17@gmail.com> > > Hi Janet > > Happy to help - a couple of co-incidences to tell you about! > > But first - High Curghie farm is in the Parish of Kirkmaiden which includes the village of Drummore and the Mull of Galloway - the most southerly point in Scotland. Also High Curghie is adjacent to the small village/hamlet also called Kirkmaiden which contains about 6 houses and the Church. In fact the farm is less than 200 yards from the Churchyard. So If George McBride was buried locally here it would be in Kirkmaiden Churchyard. There is definitely no mention of him in the booklet of Monumental Inscriptions in the Old Churchyard so it is likely he would be buried in the new Churchyard which is not covered by the booklet. I was there yesterday but I live 100 miles away so only visit every few months. Next time I visit I could look for his grave - there are approx 100-200 in the new Churchyard. Or there may be a local Lister who could do it sooner. > > Coincidence 1 :About 25 years ago my late father compiled a list of tenants of all the farms in Kirkmaiden. It shows G McBride as tenant of High Curghie from 1838 until 1857. > > Coincidence 2: The tenant who followed George was my Great great grandfather Charles McIntyre who farmed there from 1857 until 1872. My great grandfather James McIntyre was born there in 1869. He undertook a trip to Australia in 1889 to visit 2 uncles who had a shipping business (I think in Melbourne). He then returned to farm Logan Mains. > > I am new to this list and my first reply to you was direct to your email as it was easy for me to do. I guess I should have it posted on the wiglist page so that others can see it and possibly build on my info.I will try to do that. > > Regards > > Alan > On 19 Mar 2013, at 21:34, Janet wrote: > >> Thank you, Alan, for your reply. >> >> No I never did get a reply. >> The only thing I have to go on at this stage is that for the 1851 Census he was living at Hugh Curghie, Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire, and he died in 1856. As a surgeon and farmer, I would have thought that he would have a headstone. >> I'll probably have to take a look at his death certificate for more details. >> >> Thank you so much for your time, >> Janet >> Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Alan McColm >> Sent: 20 March, 2013 00:07 >> To: jmartin17@gmail.com >> Subject: George McBride >> >> Hi >> Did you ever get a reply to your question on George McBride last October? >> I have recently joined the Wiglist and have been searching the archives. I have the booklet Monumental Inscriptions in Kirkmaiden Old Churchyard. There is no mention of your George. >> There are at least 3 possibilities to explain this: >> 1. It is not this Kirkmaiden (near Drummore). There is another Kirkmaiden in Wigtownshire - near Whithorn >> 2. He is buried in the new section of the Churchyard which has not yet been recorded. >> 3. He is buried there but without a headstone. >> If you are sure he died in Kirkmaiden near Drummore - he may be in the new Churchyard. From your census record you should be able to see the address - if you let me know I'll tell you which is the most likely Churchyard >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >

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