See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Atkinson_Hornel You might find more information through the Kirkcudbrightshire or Dumfries & Galloway RootsWeb lists. Dan MacMeekin Silver Spring, Maryland USA -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:01 AM To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 72 **************************************************************************** **** When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. **************************************************************************** **** 11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. **************************************************************************** **** Today's Topics: 1. HORNELL/HORNEL Kirkcudbright (Jennifer and Grant Hudson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:03:06 +1200 (NZST) From: Jennifer and Grant Hudson <jhudson@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [WIG LIST] HORNELL/HORNEL Kirkcudbright To: "SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1366776186.15718.YahooMailNeo@web96001.mail.aue.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Has anyone researched Edward Atkinson Hornel born 11 Jul 1864 Australia died 30 Jun 1933 Kirkcudbright, Wigtonshire, Scotland Son of William Lidderdale Hornel b? Kirkcudbright, Wigtonshire and? Ann Elizabeth Habbishaw Grandson of William HORNEL b abt 1801 I would love to be able to work out if he is connected to: William Hornell abt 1805 Ireland - 26 May 1862 Minnigaff, Kirkcudbright,? Janet MUIR 06 Jul 1804 Sinniness, Glenluce,? - 21 Aug 1873 Minnigaff, Kirkcudbright, Regards Jennifer ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 72 *********************************************** ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6268 - Release Date: 04/23/13

You are correct Bruce in saying that Stewart's croft was on the right hand side after the village of Glenluce and before the viaduct I don't know if the cottage which still stands there was part of the Croft.  Kirkstyle was the original name for Church St. in the village of Glenluce, it was the name used in living memory and it is not known why it was changed. Diana

 Hi there Trying to trace my g g great grandparents James Bowdn "farmer" and Elizabeth Bruce (no marriage found). They had a son my direct link James Bowden born Stonykirk 1812..Married Agnes Cunningham "dairy maid" 10 May 1836 at Whithorn Wigtownshire...On James Bowden death in 1875 it does state his parents as James and Elizabeth Bowden m.s Bruce and some of their grandchildren have the Bruce as their middle name.. There has been no other children found for James and Elizabeth Bruce, but their must have been more. Can anyone help. Agnes Cunningham Gibson

Hi Betty, Further to my previous response, I have looked at a number of OPR entries for your McCARLIEs and a further look at old maps on the NLS site. *Old Luce OPRs:* * 6th Janr 1777* Alexr McCarlie at Clachan & Lenora Kelly at Kirkstyle being legally proclaimed before this Congregation in order to marriage & no objections being made to the Contrary, they were accordingly married at Kirkstyle the Sixth Janr JajvijC & Seventy Seven by Mr Tesedale before William & Charles Adairs at said Clachan *20th Octr 1777* John McCarlie Son to Alexr McCarlie in Stewarts Croft was baptized by Mr Caddel the Twentieth October JajvijC & Seventy Seven before Thos & John McCarlie in Balmesh *20th Septr 1780* Elizabeth McCarlie Daur to Alexr McCarlie & Lenora Kelly at Abbay was baptized by Mr Drysdale the Twentieth September MvijC and Eighty Note: JajvijC and MvijC appear to be alternate shorthand for seventeen hundred, based on a modification of roman numerals. *Died in the year 1797* Thomas McCarlie Burnside Abbay (sic) / March / 16 / 1797 / 84 *Died in the year 1799* Ann McCarlie Daur to Alexr Burnside / Augt / 2 / 1799 / 14 *Marriages 1821* John McCarlie in Clauchan and Niven Mitcel (sic) in village were legally proclaimed before mthis congregation in order to marriage and no objections being made to the contrary they were accordingly married at Kirkstile by Mr McCergo Twenty Second March Eighteen Hundred and twenty one *16th May 1823* John lawful son of John McCarlie and Niven Mitchel Burnside born the fourteenth and baptized by Mr McDowall the sixteenth May eighteen eighteen (sic) hundred and twenty three These entries are consistent with my earlier speculation that Burnside was part of or adjacent Abbey land. I have not been able to locate it specifically on maps, but I have found Clachan on Ainsley maps of 1782 and 1821 and the Thomson map of 1826. It was in the area just south of Camrie Burn, surrounded by the Abbey, Balmesh, and current day Craigenholly. A clachan is a group of dwellings somewhat like a small village. I have also been unable to locate Kirkstyle. It wasn’t necessarily close to the Abbey, but it may have been. There was a Kirkchrist, which was near Milton. There was also a Clauchan Well in that region, which makes me wonder if Milton was at one time regarded as a clachan. The Clachan adjacent the Abbey seems much more likely to be where your McCREDIEs lived. According to the 1839 Statistical Account, the Glebe of the Abbey was 16 acres, which is equivalent to an area 278 x 278 yards. The boundary can be seen easily using Google Map’s satellite view – not just the light green area, but including the dark green surrounds. Stewart’s croft is shown to be just west of Glenluce Village, close to the Viaduct. I can’t help wondering if what is shown on Google Map as Viaduct Cottage was once the cottage on Stewart’s Croft. Diana Henry may be able to advise on that. Regards, Bruce

Hi Shirley, The Church in Glenluce is not quite on Lady Burn, but is not far from it. The Abbey is about 2km up the New Luce road. I think that the Burnside in Betty's case is more likely to refer to Camrie Burn. I have some additional evidence to support that notion, which I'll post separately under Betty's thread: [WIG LIST] Burnside Abbey, Stewart's Croft<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE/2013-04/1365535925> Regards, Bruce

Trying to trace my gr gr great grandparents James Bowden "farmer" and Elizabeth Bruce...   They had a son (my direct link) James Bowden born c1812 Stoneykirk, Wigtown..I don't have any other children born to this couple..   James Bowden married Agnes Cunningham "dairy maid" 10 May 1836 Whithorn Wigtownshire..   Nancy Cunningham Gibson

Mary Crawford and Bruce I shouldn't worry about people bailing out. Most of us need the list more than the list need us!! Margaret. Margaret McDowallThe WhinsSouthendCampbeltownPA28 6RQ --- On Sat, 20/4/13, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 68 To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 20 April, 2013, 15:00 ********************************************************************************     When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.     ********************************************************************************     11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics:    1. Re: Is list mode broken? (Mary Richardson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:15:30 -0400 From: Mary Richardson <mrichson@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Is list mode broken? To: "Mail list:  WIG" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E1UTKXs-0004gs-SC@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Wig listers, An update on the status of our broken list mode is long overdue.  We have pushed for answers but just keep getting patted on the head with "the engineers are working on it."  Please know that Crawford, Bruce, and I are very frustrated and fed up.  I've tried alternative ways to reach Rootsweb but no luck, so we're left with our one help desk contact -- the "listmaster", who turned our problem over to the Rootsweb engineers on 21 Feb.  According to our contact, the engineers are still working on it, but no details are forthcoming.  Pressing for answers has gotten us nowhere.  Ugh. For two months, we were the only affected list.  But recently the INDIA list admin reported that his list mode died, and now ENG-WILTSHIRE has done the same.  I'm trying to use these lists to escalate our problem with the Rootsweb engineers because it's no longer just us. All of you are saints for staying subbed to our list while this is going on.  Thank you, thank you for not bailing out on the Wig list.  We WILL get past this!  Your patience keeps the Wig list alive.  Just shows how special our list is :-) Please continue to hang in there as we continue to push on Rootsweb. Mary...and Crawford and Bruce ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 68 ***********************************************

Dear Wig listers, An update on the status of our broken list mode is long overdue. We have pushed for answers but just keep getting patted on the head with "the engineers are working on it." Please know that Crawford, Bruce, and I are very frustrated and fed up. I've tried alternative ways to reach Rootsweb but no luck, so we're left with our one help desk contact -- the "listmaster", who turned our problem over to the Rootsweb engineers on 21 Feb. According to our contact, the engineers are still working on it, but no details are forthcoming. Pressing for answers has gotten us nowhere. Ugh. For two months, we were the only affected list. But recently the INDIA list admin reported that his list mode died, and now ENG-WILTSHIRE has done the same. I'm trying to use these lists to escalate our problem with the Rootsweb engineers because it's no longer just us. All of you are saints for staying subbed to our list while this is going on. Thank you, thank you for not bailing out on the Wig list. We WILL get past this! Your patience keeps the Wig list alive. Just shows how special our list is :-) Please continue to hang in there as we continue to push on Rootsweb. Mary...and Crawford and Bruce

There is a stream “Lady Burn”, in Glenluce. Burnside Abbey was probably Glenluce Abbey by the side of Lady Burn.

Hi Betty, For the information of other subscribers, we had a couple of off-list exchanges where I requested some additional detail. You clarified that the mentions of Stewart’s Croft and Burnside Abbey were from Old Luce OPR entries. That fits nicely with Diana Henry’s advice that Stewart’s Croft was close to Glenluce Village. Burnside Abbey doesn’t seem to be recorded anywhere, but we speculated that it had something to do with Glenluce (or Luce) Abbey. I have found 4 locations with the name Burnside, but none of them in the parish of Old Luce, and none appear to have any association with an Abbey. Curiosity has the better of me, so I have investigated further and its time now to share with the list: Glenluce Abbey itself was in ruins by 1777 when your first instance appears, but it stood on good river-flat land which made for a modest sized farm. I checked the census records for 1841, 1851, and 1861 to see what could be deduced. The Manse was still on Abbey land in those years, and it is marked on maps, so I figured that it may assist in locating the residence of your McCARLIEs. In the 1841 and 1861 returns, the enumerator for that district has not listed adjacent residences in locational sequence. In 1851, whilst not strictly so, the sequence is mostly locational. The Rev. John McDOWALL and family were at the Manse in each of these years, but interestingly, in 1851 the Manse was enumerated as “Abbey” * 1851 Census transcript from FreeCEN (edited)* Piece: SCT1851/894 Place: Old Luce -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: Old Luce Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 871 Page: 9 Schedule: 26 Address: Abbey Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born MACDOWALL John Head M M 70 Minister Of Old Luce Parish WIG - Leswalt MACDOWALL Jean H Wife M F 55 LNK - Govan MACDOWALL Elizabeth J Dau U F 30 WIG - Stranraer KELLY Elizabeth Servnt U F 53 House Servant WIG - Stoneykirk MACDOWALL Mary Servnt U F 23 House Servant WIG - Old Luce Piece: SCT1851/894 Place: Old Luce -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: Old Luce Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 871 Page: 9 Schedule: 25 Address: Trench House Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born MCKERLIE John Head M M 75 Weaver WIG - Old Luce MCKERLIE Niven Wife M F 50 WIG - Kirkcowan MCKERLIE Thomas Brothr U M 50 Weaver WIG - Old Luce MCKERLIE Alexander Son U M 28 Blacksmith Jrnyman WIG - Old Luce MCCLEARY Mary Servnt - F 12 Scholar WIG - Old Luce Note that the above 2 households are adjacent – schedules 25 and 26. I have not been able to locate Trench/Trunch House on any maps, but it would be consistent with other documents to propose that it was on or very close to the Abbey farm. Of particular relevance are the death registrations for the brothers Thomas McCARLIE in 1855, and John McCARLIE in 1859: *Old Luce Deaths 1855* (from the list archives) #24 - Thomas McCARLIE, Weaver, 60y. B/*Abbey Land*, Old Luce, *lived there all his life*. P/Alexander McCARLIE, Weaver decd & Jenny[?] KELLY decd Marr/none D/Apr 18, 1:30pm at Balmesh, Old Luce of Influenza & Bronchitis complicated latterly with Bowel complaint, certd Wm McCornack, Surgeon-last saw decd Apr 16. Bur/Glenluce Churchyd, certd John McKie, Undertaker. Signed Alexander McCARLIE, nephew. Regd Apr 18/Glenluce/John Ross, Regr *Old Luce Deaths 1859 No 33* McCARLIE, John, Weaver, Married 1859, August Thirty first, 10.30 P.M, *Abbey* M 82 yrs Alexander McCARLIE, Weaver, Deceased, Lenora McCARLIE, maiden name KELLY, Deceased Senile decay, half a year, as certified by Wm McCORMACK, Surgn who saw deceased 30th August 1859 Glenluce Churchyard, as certified by John McKIE, Sexton Alex McCarlie [signed in different hand], Son [Registration detail in final column badly darkened] John McCARLIE’s wife, Niven MITCHELL, did not die until 1864, and she was still at Trench House in 1861: *1861 Census transcript from FreeCEN (edited)* Piece: SCT1861/894 Place: Old Luce -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Old Luce Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 1 Schedule: 4 Address: New Luce Road, Trench House Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born MCCARLIE Niven Head W F 60 WIG - Kirkcowan MCCARLIE Alexander Son U M 36 Black Smith WIG - Old Luce This is very informative, as it places Trench House on the road to New Luce, which is consistent with being on Abbey land. What I think likely, is that Burnside was also a dwelling on Abbey land, but one which had fallen into ruin by the time of the 1841 census. Maps show Camrie Burn which runs through Balmesh farm and enters Water of Luce abt 200m (or 200 yards) west of the Manse. I wonder if the Burnside you are seeking was a cottage adjacent the burn, and on Abbey land. This is speculative, but it may flush out further evidence or comments from other subscribers. Regards, Bruce

>From Wigtown Free Press April 18, 2012 " Way We Were" April 19 1888 LEES' BURSERIES Last week it was mentioned that Master David Kerr had been the successful competitor in Latin and we now append a complete list of the successful competitors: Master David Kerr, Clydesdale Bank, Newton Stewart; Master John McMurray, Wigtown;  For geometry and cognate subjects: Master George McClure, Garliestown; Master John McMurray, Wigtown.  There were 11 competitors in all, one of whom did not put in an appearance;  All the competitors were from the Ewart High School.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: judithtejani Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2120.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello: I was born a McHarrie in the UK. I have been researching my family for years and it can get very confusing with the proliferation of John McHarries , not all related to each other. In the mid 1800s in Stoneykirk there were three separate and unrelated McHarrie families. In my family John McHarrie was born in 1784, son of George and married to Isabelle Campbell. He was a Dyer and lived in Kirkmaiden and did have a son John. I am descended through John's son Robert (1831), then Andrew (1860), then Wilf (1889), then Dennis (1916), my father. I believe son John emigrated to the Isle of Man and had a large family including another John. I did here tell of one sibling who emigrated to Australia New Zealand?? My g.g. grandfather Robert also had a son John....My McHarrie family all lived in the Kirkmaiden/Stoneykirk area of Scotland. Some actually lived in Stranraer, including William and his large family. William was a son of the original John (1784. ) Some moved to Kirkcu! dbright. I don't think this is actually helping you in your search but if I find out more I will post it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Betty, I do not know where Burnside Abbey was (it does not seem a local Wigtownshire place to me) but I am almost certain that Stewarts Croft was at Glenluce village. Diana ________________________________ From: "sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:00 AM Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 64 ********************************************************************************     When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.   ********************************************************************************   11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics:   1. Burnside Abbey, Stewart's Croft (Betty Miles) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:32:05 -0300 From: Betty Miles <bettymiles@eastlink.ca> Subject: [WIG LIST] Burnside Abbey, Stewart's Croft To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <C80292C3E14D48EBA1BAB77B00F9CE86@userc58c69d398> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" Could someone please tell me where Burnside Abbey is, or at least was in the late 1700's? Also Stewart's Croft at about the same time. Thank you, Betty ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 64 ***********************************************

Could someone please tell me where Burnside Abbey is, or at least was in the late 1700's? Also Stewart's Croft at about the same time. Thank you, Betty

There have been a few messages looking for information on McWhirters, and particularly on the children of Patrick McWhirter As far as I can see, Patrick McWhirter b. ca. 1740 in Stoneykirk, was my gggg grandfather, a crofter, and may have been married twice. The first time was to Mary Kimmin b. Ballantrae, Ayr ca. 1745 and d. 1773 in Stoneykirk. They had 4 children, Margaret b. 18 Sep 1764, Janet b. 14 Apr. 1767, Elizabeth b. 24 Jan 1770, and Mary b. 23 Feb 1772. Mary was still living in Kirkinner village, as a pauper, with her granddaughter Helen Gaw, then aged 9, at the time of the 1851 census and d. 4 Apr. 1856 in Kirkinner. She married David Kean in Kirkinner 8 Jun 1793 and was my ggg grandmother. Of their 10 children, John McKeand, b. 3 Feb 1799 d. 16 Jan 1871 in Sorbie, was my gg grandfather. Unfortunately the Stoneykirk records were lost in a fire in the Session Clerk's house in 1744, so there are many brick walls thereby constructed, or at least enhanced. A further detail came to light more recently, showing that Patrick, then at Altain, Stoneykirk, paid 4 shillings and 6 pence Farm Horse Tax in 1797. Altain, now Altain Cottage, apparently still exists and was recently for sale. Patrick's second marriage looks as if it was to Jean Kennedy in 1773 in Portpatrick, and they appear to have had 6 children, John b. 25 Jan 1776, Anthony b. 29 Aug 1778, Helen ca. 1780, Alexander b. 13 Apr 1780, William b. 29 Jul 1781 d. 17 May 1853, and Jean b. 15 Nov 1784. It looks also as if they lived at Cairnhandy in 1780 and at Allan?? or Allandos, Leswalt?? in 1784. Crawford MacKeand.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Reeni09 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/236.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information about James Shank(s), Shoemaker married Elizabeth Alexander 10th Aug 1787, Portpatrick, Wigtownshire. cheers Reeni Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Nancy, Welcome to the Wigtownshire mailing list. Its not unusual to be unable to find marriage or birth/baptism records in Scotland prior to 1855. From 1855 onwards, compulsory civil registration of BDMs were mostly adhered to, but prior to that, one has to rely on other incomplete records. The best chance is the Old Parochial Registers (OPRs), being the marriage and baptism registers which were kept by the Church of Scotland. Membership of that Church was not universal, and even for families who were members, the records were not well kept in all parishes. Some that were kept have since been lost or damaged by the elements. Sometimes one is lucky enough to find monumental inscriptions (MIs) which include valuable information on one's ancestors. If you haven't already sought that source, you may want to explore what the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society has to offer.They have several booklets covering graveyards in Wigtownshire. Check out the publications from the website: http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/ You may have missed finding a couple of William and Janet's children in the 1851 census if you relied on Ancestry.com alone. Their search engine is good, but alas, their transcriptions have lots of errors, and that sometimes makes it difficult to find people. FreeCEN has much less coverage, and the search engine not as flexible, but better quality control on the transcriptions: http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl I found this on FreeCEN, which I've reduced a little to hopefully fit the Rootsweb page size, but sometimes the reformatting distorts such tables: 1851 Census Piece: SCT1851/891 Place: Leswalt -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Leswalt Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Leswalt Stranraer Pb Folio: 877 Page: 3 Schedule: 10 Address: Sun Street, Stranraer Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born MILRIGHT Jess Head U F 30 Sewer Wigtownshire - Leswalt WYATT Elizth Hlfsis U F 23 Dressmaker Wigtownshire - Leswalt WYATT Wm Hlfbro U M 14 Scholar Wigtownshire - Leswalt BROUGH Isabella Visitr U F 28 Dressmaker Wigtownshire - Wigtown BROUGH Robt Visitr U M 20 Printer Apprentice Wigtownshire - Wigtown Although there are other possible scenarios, this does fit with Jane/Janet BROWN having died prior to this census. It looks like she had been married, or at least had a child, Jess MIL(W)RIGHT, prior to marrying William WYATT. (Hlfsi and Hlfbro being abbreviations for half-sister and half-brother.) Its also interesting to see that Robert BROUGH was in this household. I presume that he was the one that Elizabeth WYATT married on 24 Nov 1851. I also see from the IGI that their daughter Jane Brown BROUGH, baptised 10 Jul 1852, appears to have been named after her maternal grandmother. Hope this is of some help. The John WYATT you say was born 1823 would have been 17 or 18 in 1841. If he was recorded in the 1841 census, and the enumerator followed instructions, his age should have been given as 15. You stated 12, so I wonder if one of those numbers was a typo? Regards, Bruce

    Hi there, I am trying to trace my gr gr great grandfather William Wyatt "master mariner" who doesn't appear on the 1841 census with his wife Janet (40) Jannet (20) Elizabeth (10) and William (3) living at Sun Street Strannraer Wigtown..I did see his death in your Wigtown pages "William Wyatt aged 47 "master mariner" he has died in 1845 after a long illness...Any idea where he could have been between 1841-1845?? or where he was born:  I am assuming he may well have been at sea, but cant see him anywhere else..His wife Janet Brown can't be found after 1841, nor can I find a marriage between William and Janet Brown.  They had a son John Wyatt who I traced in 1823 Wigtown. He isnt on the 1841 as he is at sea (aged 12)   Many thanks Nancy Gibson

My request is on information for William KELLIE born about 1710 in Parish of Stoneykirk, his wife was Margaret Kilpatrick. Their children were: Robert Kellie/Kelly born 1734 John Kellie born William Kellie born 1744 Daniel Kellie born 1746 Griselda Kellie born 1748 Alexander Kellie born 1751 Jean Kellie born 1753 Robert, William, Alexander and Griselda came to America in 1774. They sailed from Stranraer on the "Gale" in May 1774. They others remained there in the area all their life. I have been through the Kirkmaiden Old Parish Records years 1704-1771 to no avail.

With the current problem Rootsweb has with the Wigtownshire List's daily posts not arriving, we'll have to keep reading what's being sent in the DIGEST mode. That doesn't come into the INbox nearly as much as I'd like....then wait for a reply....then wait to read another query. Am glad this work around has been useful and keep hoping they'll find the List Gremlin and unceremoniously exorcise it. MEANWHILE.....if you check the ARCHVIES of the Sct-Wigtownshire Mailing List, you can actually read posta as they are sent in ! They just dont' make it to our INboxes til the Digest appears. This link should show them in DATE order with Sender's details..... http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE/2013-03?m=r&n=y&d=y&s=Redisplay If this is too long, use a shortened version : http://goo.gl/R0Q1c If this post doesn't show up right away......wait a bit or check the Archives....I think that's like saying "If you don't get this, eMail me ?" MEG in OK ===========================================