Guys I'm new at this and not sure if I'm sending this to the correct email address.  My gr great grandparents were Robert Brough "pavier" and Agnes Parker. Their children, Isabella1822, Agnes 1823, John 1825 William 1828, Robert 1830 who wrote a book called "tips for typos" (which costs over £300 to purchase) and Hugh 1833 who were all born Wigtown.  Robert is on the 1841 census with his children listed as "widow"  I'm trying to locate Agnes Parker who would have died in wigtown.  I did come across this who I believe is my Robert  28.5.1852 at Galashiels, ultimo, suddenly Robert Brough pavier Stranrar. Robert was from England and I think he may have met Agnes in Wigtown. NANCY ________________________________ From: "sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2013, 8:00 Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 ********************************************************************************     When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.   ********************************************************************************   11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics:   1. Subject:  Peter Moore, Blacksmith of Stranraer (Malcolm Lockerbie)   2. Re: Parker / Harvey/ McCreadie (Bruce McDowall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:51:04 +0100 From: Malcolm Lockerbie <malcolmlockerbie@hotmail.com> Subject: [WIG LIST] Subject:  Peter Moore, Blacksmith of Stranraer To: "SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB124-W16A2314DF2A6913EC0B925D0960@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Rosemary, Mary is listed as a Widow in 1861. I checked the Scotlands People index and there is not a death entry for a Peter Moore around his age between 1855-1861 in all Scotland! He either died before 1855 or not in Scotland. Possibly a lister with access to Stranraer MIs could see if he is there? Malcolm > From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 91 > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 01:00:47 -0600 > > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 21:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rosemary Omar <omarrosemary@yahoo.com.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Peter Moore, Blacksmith of Stranraer > To: "SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: >     <1369629372.95170.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Peter Moore ?born approx 1828 in Ireland. ? A blacksmith. ?Married 1 March 1851 in Stranraer ( query St Josephs) to Mary McGeoch (daughter of Thomas and Susan McGeoch) > Listed in 1851 census living with wife and her family. > Had a daughter Sarah Jane Moore born 1852 in Stranraer (she immigrated to New Zealand pre 1873) > Peter Moore is not in any following census, though his wife Mary and daughter appear in 1861 census. ? > Not sure what happened to him? > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 91 > ***********************************************                         ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 23:40:15 +1000 From: Bruce McDowall <milldriggan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Parker / Harvey/ McCreadie To: Elizabeth Pearse <r.e.pearse@sympatico.ca>,    Wig List     <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAC1_HmWTnmTAkeVdaywWRm05yNwjyb9fXB9o_-NExKV_SPmRqg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Elizabeth Pearse Wrote: Looking for info on Jane Harvey (Parker) who gave birth to James McCreadie approx. 1867 in Kirkcowan Trying to find her place of birth & year of death Have been told Jane died around 1934 & lived at one time in or around Leswalt Elizabeth Ont Canada - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi Elizabeth, I have found some records of your Jane PARKER and her family. >From Scotlandspeople, Jane HARVEY, (other name PARKER), died in the parish of Inch, age 91, in 1934. Jane?s maiden name is given here as PARKER, but I found her family mostly recorded as PACKER. A John HARVEY died Leswalt 1921, age 72 Another died Stoneykirk 1923, age 77 Another died Stranraer 1923, age 80 The one in Leswalt in 1921 looks the most likely. Here are the details from Jane?s marriage registration: Kirkcowan Marriages 1871, No5. First June at Kirkcowan. John HARVEY, Ploughman, Bachelor, age 22, Usual residence Old Luce, parents John HARVEY, Labourer & Catherine McCARTNEY (deseased). Jane PACKER, Spinster, age 23, Usual residence Old Luce, parents John PACKER, Pensioner (deceased) & Margaret GRANT The following, from FreeCEN, appears to be her family in the 1851 census: 1851 Census Piece: SCT1851/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 870 Page: 14 Schedule: 47 Address: Cottage Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex / Age / Occupation / Where Born        PACKER    / Margaret / Head / W / F / 40 / Labourer / Ireland - -        PACKER    / Mary /     Dau / U / F / 12 / Scholar /    Ireland - -            PACKER  / Jane / Dau / - / F / 7 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    PACKER    / Margaret / Dau / - / F / 5    / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    Assuming this is the same Jane PACKER, she was actually 27 at marriage, not 23 as she claimed. That is not remarkable, as it was common practice for adults to fib about their age during their working years. She would have been 18 when James PACKER / McCREADIE was born. He was born in 1862 rather than 1867. My guess is that the estimate of 1867 resulted from fibbing about his age when an adult. The birth registration for James has a bonus, for directly above on the same page is a son Patrick, born to Jane?s sister, Mary PACKER. James PACKER was born 30 May 1862 at Kirkcowan Village and registered by his mother, Jane PACKER, domestic Servant. Patrick PACKER was born 19 May 1862 at Kirkcowan Village to Mary PACKER, and registered by his grandmother, Margaret Ann PACKER. Both James and Patrick were illegitimate. Both Jane and Mary had further illegitimate children.  Jane had a daughter Margaret born Kirkcowan 13 Sep 1865, who died 17 Jul 1866. Mary had a son John born Kirkcowan 05 May 1865. Mary also had at least 3 children by Cornelius McVENION or McAVERY , in 1869, 1871 and 1873. They claimed to have married in Ayrshire in July 1860, but I failed to find this marriage registration on Scotlandspeople. Jane? other sister, Margaret, married William MARSHALL at Kirkcowan on 21 Oct 1862. Further details from Registration: William MARSHALL Labourer, 19 Barwhiil & Margaret PACKER, 17, Barwhill Parents Francis MARSHALL, Tinsmith & Margaret GILLESPIE and John PACKER, Labourer & Margaret GRANT This transcript from FreeCEN shows them in 1871: 1871 Census Piece: SCT1871/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 2 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkcowan Village Folio: 0 Page: 11 Schedule: 54 Address: 27 High St Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex / Age / Occupation / Where Born        MARSHALL / William / Head / M / M / 26 / Hostler /     Wigtownshire - Mochrum    MARSHALL / Margt  / Wife / M / F    / 23 / Hostler's Wife / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan MARSHALL  / William / Son / U / M    / 7 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    MARSHALL / Francis / Son    / U / M/ 5 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    MARSHALL / John / Son / U / M / 3    /  / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    MARSHALL / Robert / Son    / U / M / 2 /  / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    PACKER    / Margt / Ma-Law    / W / F / 69 / Ag Labourer / Ireland - -    MCCREDIE / James / Nephew / U / M / 8 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan    Note that James was now using the surname of McCREDIE. The Registrar would have required his father to acknowledge paternity or for Jane to have a very strong case, in order to register him other than PACKER. The census Enumerator required no such proof. On census night, 06 April 1871, he would have been about 8 weeks short of his 9th birthday, so this is consistent with all other evidence of his identity. Jane PACKER & John HARVEY were not yet married, but at census time were both servants on the farm of Peter McDOWALL in the parish of Old Luce: Old Luce, 1871, district 2, page 12, West Challoch. Peter McDowall / Head / Mar / 60 / / Farmer of 209 acres arable emp. 5 labourers / Wigtownshire Penninghame Marget(sic) Do / Wife / Mar / / 53 / / Do Kirkcowan William Do / Son / Unm / 35 / / / Do Inch Marget(sic) Do / Grand Daur / Unm / / 16 / / Do Old Luce James Ketchie / Servant / Widr / 51 / / Ploughman / Do Stoneykirk John Harvie / Do / Unm / 22 / / Do / Do Leswalt Jean Packer / Do / Unm / / 24 / Dairymaid / Do Kirkcowan Helen McDowall / Do / Unm / / 24 / General Servant / Do Stoneykirk James Agnew / Servant / Mar / 51 / / Shepherd / Ayrshire Ballantrae 7 rooms with at least one window. This is a transcript I have on file from several years ago, when I noted all the McDOWALL households in the county in the 1871 census. Here is the FreeCEN transcript for Mary PACKER in 1871: 1871 Census Piece: SCT1871/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 3 Schedule: 10 Address: Kiltersan Hamlet Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex    / Age / Occupation / Where Born    MCAVENY / Cornelius / Head / M /    M / 35 /    Labourer / Ireland - -    MCAVENY / Mary / Wife /    M / F / 29 / Labourer / WIG - Kirkcowan    MCAVENY / John    / Son /  - / M / 5 /  / WIG - Kirkcowan    MCAVENY / Margret J  / Dau / - / F    / 1 /  /  WIG - Kirkcowan    >From Scotlandspeople: A Mary PACKER died 1909 Kilmarnock, AYR, age 70, but it is doubtful this is the one. I haven?t found a death for Cornelius. Maybe they left Scotland. Margaret MARSHALL, other name PACKER, died Kirkcowan 1878, age 31. William MARSHALL died Penninghame 1926, age 84. Jane PACKER?s mother died in 1891 Registration details: Margaret PACKER, (other name GRANT), widow of John PACKER, soldier, died age 90, Kirkcowan, 26 March 1891, Father James GRANT, miller, mother Jane GRAHAM. Witness R. MARSHALL, grandson, present. I looked at the LDS film of the Kirkcowan baptism register, but could not find a record of your Jane PACKER or her sister Margaret. Their births were at the time of a major disruption of the Church of Scotland, with many turning to the Free Church which was formed in 1843. There were always a number of dissenting families, which is one of many reasons why so many children were not recorded in the OPRs. Perhaps this was a factor here, perhaps not. Regards, Bruce McDowall ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Elizabeth Pearse Wrote: Looking for info on Jane Harvey (Parker) who gave birth to James McCreadie approx. 1867 in Kirkcowan Trying to find her place of birth & year of death Have been told Jane died around 1934 & lived at one time in or around Leswalt Elizabeth Ont Canada - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi Elizabeth, I have found some records of your Jane PARKER and her family. >From Scotlandspeople, Jane HARVEY, (other name PARKER), died in the parish of Inch, age 91, in 1934. Jane’s maiden name is given here as PARKER, but I found her family mostly recorded as PACKER. A John HARVEY died Leswalt 1921, age 72 Another died Stoneykirk 1923, age 77 Another died Stranraer 1923, age 80 The one in Leswalt in 1921 looks the most likely. Here are the details from Jane’s marriage registration: Kirkcowan Marriages 1871, No5. First June at Kirkcowan. John HARVEY, Ploughman, Bachelor, age 22, Usual residence Old Luce, parents John HARVEY, Labourer & Catherine McCARTNEY (deseased). Jane PACKER, Spinster, age 23, Usual residence Old Luce, parents John PACKER, Pensioner (deceased) & Margaret GRANT The following, from FreeCEN, appears to be her family in the 1851 census: 1851 Census Piece: SCT1851/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 870 Page: 14 Schedule: 47 Address: Cottage Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex / Age / Occupation / Where Born PACKER / Margaret / Head / W / F / 40 / Labourer / Ireland - - PACKER / Mary / Dau / U / F / 12 / Scholar / Ireland - - PACKER / Jane / Dau / - / F / 7 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan PACKER / Margaret / Dau / - / F / 5 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan Assuming this is the same Jane PACKER, she was actually 27 at marriage, not 23 as she claimed. That is not remarkable, as it was common practice for adults to fib about their age during their working years. She would have been 18 when James PACKER / McCREADIE was born. He was born in 1862 rather than 1867. My guess is that the estimate of 1867 resulted from fibbing about his age when an adult. The birth registration for James has a bonus, for directly above on the same page is a son Patrick, born to Jane’s sister, Mary PACKER. James PACKER was born 30 May 1862 at Kirkcowan Village and registered by his mother, Jane PACKER, domestic Servant. Patrick PACKER was born 19 May 1862 at Kirkcowan Village to Mary PACKER, and registered by his grandmother, Margaret Ann PACKER. Both James and Patrick were illegitimate. Both Jane and Mary had further illegitimate children. Jane had a daughter Margaret born Kirkcowan 13 Sep 1865, who died 17 Jul 1866. Mary had a son John born Kirkcowan 05 May 1865. Mary also had at least 3 children by Cornelius McVENION or McAVERY , in 1869, 1871 and 1873. They claimed to have married in Ayrshire in July 1860, but I failed to find this marriage registration on Scotlandspeople. Jane’ other sister, Margaret, married William MARSHALL at Kirkcowan on 21 Oct 1862. Further details from Registration: William MARSHALL Labourer, 19 Barwhiil & Margaret PACKER, 17, Barwhill Parents Francis MARSHALL, Tinsmith & Margaret GILLESPIE and John PACKER, Labourer & Margaret GRANT This transcript from FreeCEN shows them in 1871: 1871 Census Piece: SCT1871/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 2 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkcowan Village Folio: 0 Page: 11 Schedule: 54 Address: 27 High St Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex / Age / Occupation / Where Born MARSHALL / William / Head / M / M / 26 / Hostler / Wigtownshire - Mochrum MARSHALL / Margt / Wife / M / F / 23 / Hostler's Wife / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan MARSHALL / William / Son / U / M / 7 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan MARSHALL / Francis / Son / U / M/ 5 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan MARSHALL / John / Son / U / M / 3 / / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan MARSHALL / Robert / Son / U / M / 2 / / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan PACKER / Margt / Ma-Law / W / F / 69 / Ag Labourer / Ireland - - MCCREDIE / James / Nephew / U / M / 8 / Scholar / Wigtownshire - Kirkcowan Note that James was now using the surname of McCREDIE. The Registrar would have required his father to acknowledge paternity or for Jane to have a very strong case, in order to register him other than PACKER. The census Enumerator required no such proof. On census night, 06 April 1871, he would have been about 8 weeks short of his 9th birthday, so this is consistent with all other evidence of his identity. Jane PACKER & John HARVEY were not yet married, but at census time were both servants on the farm of Peter McDOWALL in the parish of Old Luce: Old Luce, 1871, district 2, page 12, West Challoch. Peter McDowall / Head / Mar / 60 / / Farmer of 209 acres arable emp. 5 labourers / Wigtownshire Penninghame Marget(sic) Do / Wife / Mar / / 53 / / Do Kirkcowan William Do / Son / Unm / 35 / / / Do Inch Marget(sic) Do / Grand Daur / Unm / / 16 / / Do Old Luce James Ketchie / Servant / Widr / 51 / / Ploughman / Do Stoneykirk John Harvie / Do / Unm / 22 / / Do / Do Leswalt Jean Packer / Do / Unm / / 24 / Dairymaid / Do Kirkcowan Helen McDowall / Do / Unm / / 24 / General Servant / Do Stoneykirk James Agnew / Servant / Mar / 51 / / Shepherd / Ayrshire Ballantrae 7 rooms with at least one window. This is a transcript I have on file from several years ago, when I noted all the McDOWALL households in the county in the 1871 census. Here is the FreeCEN transcript for Mary PACKER in 1871: 1871 Census Piece: SCT1871/888 Place: Kirkcowan -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Kirkcowan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 3 Schedule: 10 Address: Kiltersan Hamlet Surname / First name(s) / Rel / Status / Sex / Age / Occupation / Where Born MCAVENY / Cornelius / Head / M / M / 35 / Labourer / Ireland - - MCAVENY / Mary / Wife / M / F / 29 / Labourer / WIG - Kirkcowan MCAVENY / John / Son / - / M / 5 / / WIG - Kirkcowan MCAVENY / Margret J / Dau / - / F / 1 / / WIG - Kirkcowan >From Scotlandspeople: A Mary PACKER died 1909 Kilmarnock, AYR, age 70, but it is doubtful this is the one. I haven’t found a death for Cornelius. Maybe they left Scotland. Margaret MARSHALL, other name PACKER, died Kirkcowan 1878, age 31. William MARSHALL died Penninghame 1926, age 84. Jane PACKER’s mother died in 1891 Registration details: Margaret PACKER, (other name GRANT), widow of John PACKER, soldier, died age 90, Kirkcowan, 26 March 1891, Father James GRANT, miller, mother Jane GRAHAM. Witness R. MARSHALL, grandson, present. I looked at the LDS film of the Kirkcowan baptism register, but could not find a record of your Jane PACKER or her sister Margaret. Their births were at the time of a major disruption of the Church of Scotland, with many turning to the Free Church which was formed in 1843. There were always a number of dissenting families, which is one of many reasons why so many children were not recorded in the OPRs. Perhaps this was a factor here, perhaps not. Regards, Bruce McDowall

Hi Rosemary, Mary is listed as a Widow in 1861. I checked the Scotlands People index and there is not a death entry for a Peter Moore around his age between 1855-1861 in all Scotland! He either died before 1855 or not in Scotland. Possibly a lister with access to Stranraer MIs could see if he is there? Malcolm > From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 91 > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 01:00:47 -0600 > > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 21:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rosemary Omar <omarrosemary@yahoo.com.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Peter Moore, Blacksmith of Stranraer > To: "SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1369629372.95170.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Peter Moore ?born approx 1828 in Ireland. ? A blacksmith. ?Married 1 March 1851 in Stranraer ( query St Josephs) to Mary McGeoch (daughter of Thomas and Susan McGeoch) > Listed in 1851 census living with wife and her family. > Had a daughter Sarah Jane Moore born 1852 in Stranraer (she immigrated to New Zealand pre 1873) > Peter Moore is not in any following census, though his wife Mary and daughter appear in 1861 census. ? > Not sure what happened to him? > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 91 > ***********************************************

Peter Moore  born approx 1828 in Ireland.   A blacksmith.  Married 1 March 1851 in Stranraer ( query St Josephs) to Mary McGeoch (daughter of Thomas and Susan McGeoch) Listed in 1851 census living with wife and her family. Had a daughter Sarah Jane Moore born 1852 in Stranraer (she immigrated to New Zealand pre 1873) Peter Moore is not in any following census, though his wife Mary and daughter appear in 1861 census.   Not sure what happened to him?

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"FROM  THE  ARCHIVES" THE  HERALD  MAY 24, 2013 50 YEARS AGO. "The latest station house up for sale, if you are keeping an eye on the market, is at Killywhan, Kirkcudbright, on the Dumfries-Stranraer line.  One attraction not mentioned in the advertisement is that of living in one of the few places named after a racehorse.  Beeswing, the village served by the station, is named after the winner of the Ascot Gold Cup in 1842.  A picture of the horse originally appeared on the sign of the public house round which the village grew." Diana Henry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janinemcclure Surnames: McCLURE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/36.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Allen - My husband, Mark McCLURE is James McCLURE's great-great grandson. Happy to correspond with you. Please email us on marjan@ozvetting.com.au Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am looking for experiences of life and settlement in New Brunswick, Canada, as narrated by Scottish settlers throughout the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. This is part of a research project being undertaken by the University of New Brunswick and the New Brunswick Provincial Archives. Do any readers have historic family connections that resulted in the survival of letters, diaries, photographs, etc. from Scots settlers in New Brunswick sent to their families back home during the long nineteenth century? There were strong links between Galloway on the one hand, and New Brunswick on the other, to do with the timber trade, but these broadened into other spheres. Ships brought timber from the New Brunswick forests to the Solway - and often returned to Canada with emigrants from Dumfriesshire, Kirkcubrightshire and Wigtownshire. For example, in 1817 a returning timber ship, The North Star, advertised for joiners, blacksmiths, tailors and farmers to apply to join embarkation at Kippford (Kirkcudbrightshire) for the voyage back to New Brunswick. If you do have such treasures carefully hidden away, I would love to hear from you. regards, Iain Hutchison

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Hi all, Been a little while since I posted but always great to read on other facts and info that comes through. I wonder... I am Living in New Zealand and will be back in Scotland in August (Where I am originally from) for about 5 weeks. I plan on covering as much as possible in retracing my family roots around the Wigtownshire area, namely Stranraer, Leswalt, Inch areas where my Morland ancestors once thrived.   I have been very fortunate and also extremely grateful to many folk for there assistance in helping me achieve a wealth of knowledge on my family history up till now and some of those folk frequent this list. Again I thank u all.   Through much time searching and with the help of others I have my family back in this area to a Thomas Morland born abt 1756 Dying Jan 1841 and his wife - a Mary Sprott who died in 1812.. I know nothing further on these people. A wealth of info for me comes after these folk.. The challenge for me is to get more info on these folk or there families of this time (Mid 1700`s) I do not have any ideas where to go to track this down. Scottish People and Ancestry I feel has been exhausted for info now..   I ask the experienced researchers within in these areas I mention - Is there anywhere else one can go to see for any more info? Also I have a few places that I plan on going to see in August but given the places I mentioned above  is there any places that could be recommended to go and view that could reflect back to the way of life of the 1700`s through 1800`s? I am open to ideas from these areas recommended to visit which reflect its history.   I thank you all again for previous help.   Best wishes to all of you and I look forward to any feedback   Scott Morland Auckland NZ

Looking for info on Jane Harvey (Parker) who gave birth to James McCreadie approx. 1867 in Kirkcowan Trying to find her place of birth & year of death Have been told Jane died around 1934 & lived at one time in or around Leswalt Elizabeth Ont Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twinkletoes_917 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2163.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Bruce for your very detailed reply. I have seen those entries for myself at some stage. The marriage for William Alexander and Margaret Kelly I think is probably the right one. The birth of Mary Alexander in 1806 I had seen before but I was not convinced enough to accept it as my Mary. Firstly the father's name was John and not William as you point out, but also because the date and age on Mary's death certificate puts her year of birth at 1809. Your reasoning over the father's name is convincing, however. If this is correct, then the age is not so much of an issue. With father's name and the date out, I was unwilling to accept that this could be my Mary Alexander. I think you are probably correct in your assumption that the minister confused the families.I will revisit the records again. I note your advice about the ancestry contributions. I am aware of this, but occasionally I have found a quick lead to a primary source via family trees. In the case of Bernard and Mary I have met with a dead end every time. Until further evidence comes to light I will assume the date and place of marriage is an assumption. Thanks again Bruce, much appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceMcDowall27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2163.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi twinkletoes, In Don Gillies' excellent advice, he mentioned the old parish registers, (OPRs), held in Edinburgh and available online through Scotlandspeople. The current holding body is National Records of Scotland. These records have been filmed by the LDS and can be accesses at LDS Family history Centres and some genealogy libraries. I have access to some of these, including the parish of Portpatrick. A couple of the advantages in trawling the film, rather than using Scotlandspeople, are perspective and deciphering challenging handwriting. One can occasionally find records which have been omitted from or incorrectly transcribed into the index. Maybe this thought was behind your original lookup request. You mention a few Ancestry members claiming the same marriage place and year. That doesn't necessarily account for much. Often, a stated event or connection is contributed to Ancestry which is not based on reliable primary sources. If other researchers take that contribution as fact and submit it as part of their own contribution, it can appear that there are a number of sources. I guess that you have looked at the IGI and found some similar contributed information there. Perhaps this is due to one or more of the same people contributing to both Family Search and Ancestry.com. That marriage date may have been an assumption, or it may have been from a subsequent baptism record which the original contributor has. I would have thought that if it was from an OPR marriage record or a family bible, the precise date would have been available, rather than just the year. In theory, the IGI should give a good idea of what is included in the Portpatrick OPR film, as the vast majority of OPRs have been extracted to the IGI. The catch is that a couple of years ago, the LDS revamped the IGI database and search engine, and although this has improved some features, it has made some searches more difficult. I won't elaborate fully here, but one of the steps was an attempt to reduce duplication, which resulted in removal of many extracts sourced directly from the OPRs. The upshot is that this can require considerable trawling of the film to determine if the record you seek is there or not. I have looked at the Portpatrick marriage and baptism registers. Over the period when your Mary ALEXANDER was born and married, John Mackenzie D.D. was the minister. He was busily marrying couples from Ireland. Meanwhile, across the Irish Sea in Donaghadee, Scottish couples were being married. Review and confirmation of many of the latter appear in the Portpatrick register. The baptism register has some marriage records and the marriage register some baptisms, which complicates trawling somewhat, but some very interesting entries along the way makes this task worth while. I did not find a record of the marriage of Mary ALEXANDER to Bernard MOONEY. I did find what I believe to be the baptism record of Mary: "Mary Daughter to John Alexander & Margaret Kelly in Town of Portpatrick was born the fifth and Baptized the sixth December one thousand eight hundred and six years" I assume that you know from her NSW death registration that Mary's father was William, not John, but I think there is good reason to believe that the Session Clerk made an error with this entry. I would normally favour the possibility that this was another couple, but considering the 1803 marriage of William ALEXANDER & Margaret KELLY, and the timing of births of their other children, this Mary fits nicely. There was a John ALEXANDER who married Margaret McCORMICK in 1800, and they were having children in the parish during this period. They also had a daughter Mary, born 18 March, baptized 19 March, 1805. This couple also lived in the town, so it is easy to believe that the Session clerk got them confused. Note that this confusion is speculation based on circumstances. The Portpatrick marriage record of William ALEXANDER & Margaret KELLY is both interesting and informative: "Portpatrick 10th April 1803 William Alexander produced Certificate of Marriage of him the said William Alexander and Margaret Kelly dated at Milsile in Ireland upon the fifteenth day of January One Thousand Eight Hundred and Three years signed by the Revd Alexr Grees Minr of Milslile which Certificate the Session This day Sustained." The session clerk confounded the spelling and names a little. This had to be Millisle Presbyterian Church, of which Andrew Greer was minister from 1777 to 1809. Millisle is in county down, about 3 miles or 5 km south of Donaghadee. Regards, Bruce p.s. If you haven't already checked out the Trove website, you should be interested in some mentions of Bernard MOONEY in a couple of Hunter Valley newspapers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twinkletoes_917 Surnames: MOONEY/ALEXANDER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2163.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Don. That's a shame. I had thought the record existed as a few members on ancestry have put a marriage year for them. I was never able to confirm it for myself and this is probably why. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DonGillies61 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2163.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A large percentage of the Church of Scotland records of births and marriages from this period have not survived the passage of time. Neglect by the individual ministers/church clerks, paper deterioration, water damage, ledgers being lost/stolen etc are some of the many reasons why large gaps were found to exist when the parish records were collated into a central point in 1855. Similiarly, the records of the Catholic Church (Bernard Mooney is an Irish name) are also far from complete. All of these parish records (COS & RC churches) are held at the Scottish Record Office, and can be accessed via their website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk The indexes are free to explore, and unfortunately the marriage of Bernard Mooney & Mary Alexander does not appear. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twinkletoes_917 Surnames: ALEXANDER/ MOONEY Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2163/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, can anyone do a look up for me: Marriage of Mary Alexander and Bernard Mooney c. 1826 Portpatrick, Wigtownshire. Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Margaret I do remember being in touch before, but I don't think I had found much about John Cloy at that time. I have birth certif. for John and his sisters Maggie (known as Peggie) and Helen. I wasn't very old, but I can just remember John's shoe repair shop in Kirkcowan. John's parents were James Cloy and Rachel McCreadie. Rachel was a sister of Margaret McCreadie who married Thomas Young in 1919 in Kirkcowan. They were my grandparents. I have all Margaret & Rachel's siblings with birth certificates, and 1891 & 1901 census for James. Any information you could send about Christina Ross McDowall's family and where she was from would be much appreciated. Mary

Hi Judy, The best I can do for you on the ownership is to refer you to "History of the Lands and Their Owners in Galloway " by Peter Handyside MacKerlie. Balsarroch is covered in Volume 1, pages 415-417. You can read this on-line at: http://archive.org/details/historylandsand00mackgoog Handyside also discusses the derivation and spelling of the name. Your BELLs may have been tenants on the farm, but may have been servants of the tenant farmer. Remuneration for servants, including agricultural labourers, generally included accommodation. Had they been there from 1841, or preferably 1851, you should have been able to determine if the head of the family was a farmer or a servant. If farmer, he would have been a tenant. Regards, Bruce On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Judi Hollands <dutchess@wn.com.au> wrote: > Hi Bruce > > My BELLs were in Kirkcolm prior to 1841 Census - 1861 Census. A number of > OPRs list the children as being born in Balsarroch from 1822. Thomas Bell > was a farmer of 20 acres - so wondering who owned Balsarroch House at the > time. I imagine they had leased a farm in the vicinity. I believe there > are > ruins of the Balsarroch House - > > http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-10173-balsarroch-house-and-walled > -garden-kirkco Just trying to work out the lifestyle he may have lived > and > get a sense of the history. > > Thanks > > Judi :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce McDowall [mailto:milldriggan@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 6:04 PM > To: Judi Hollands > Cc: Wig List > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > > Hi Judy, > > Balsarroch will have been a farm. > There's only one in Wigtownshire by that spelling that I can see on the > current OS Landranger map. It is in the parish of Kirkcolm, about 4km or > 2.5 > miles west of Kirkcolm village. Balsarroch Wood is marked close by on > Google > Maps. > If your BELLs were not from Kirkcolm, there are other similar named farms > in > the parishes of Penninghame, Mochrum, and Stoneykirk. Perhaps there may > have > been one in Wigtown also. Spelling was rather arbitrary prior to the 19th > century, and the farther back in time, the more variations one will find, > so > those other farms could easily have been recorded at some time as > Balsarroch. > What parish were your BELLs in, and over what time span? > > Regards, > Bruce > >

Balsarroch is located parish of Kirkcolm Wigtownshire.  Search the word Balsarroch, it will give you numerous details re Balsarroch even a picture of Balsarroch House.  The picture is by Francisn Frith taken in 1951.   Hopefully thism might help   Robert Ambrose From: "sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 0:10 Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 81 ********************************************************************************     When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.   ********************************************************************************   11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics:   1. Balsarroch (Mary Forsyth)   2. Re: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80, Balsaarroch       (Donald and Sue Main)   3. Re: Balsarroch (Bruce McDowall)   4. Re: Balsarroch (Margaret McDowall)   5. Balsarroch (Donald and Sue Main)   6. Re: Balsarroch (ailsa158) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 09:24:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mary Forsyth <mar_for2003@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: "sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <1367655885.19408.YahooMailNeo@web172601.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Judi ? There is a Balsalloch Farm, but it is in?Ayrshire not Wigtownshire. ? Mary From: "sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 8:00 Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 ******************************************************************************** ? ? When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ? ******************************************************************************** ? 11 Feb 2013 All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. ******************************************************************************** Today's Topics: ? 1. Balsarroch (Judi Hollands) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 17:18:23 +0800 From: "Judi Hollands" <dutchess@wn.com.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ce47df$29a2d760$7ce88620$@wn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" Hi Wig Listers Just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction?? I am after any information on Balsarroch.? Many of my early BELL ancestors are recorded as being born, dying or residing at Balsarroch - what exactly was it?? A farm? A town? A region??? Thanks, in anticipation of a response. Regards Judi ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 *********************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 18:02:21 +0800 From: Donald and Sue Main <donald.main@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80,     Balsaarroch To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <B3975F4F-CA86-4146-8860-DE24BDF45577@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On 04/05/2013, at 3:00 PM, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > >  1. Balsarroch (Judi Hollands) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Balsarroch is a ruined building about a couple of miles due west of  > Kirkcolm inside the elbow of the B738 road which turns sharp left  > when traveling from Kirkcolm. Presumably once a decent farmhouse but  > I am not sure if there are any other places with a similar name.     Donald Main ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 20:04:22 +1000 From: Bruce McDowall <milldriggan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: Judi Hollands <dutchess@wn.com.au> Cc: Wig List <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAC1_HmVA0aN=EFVV6MLAiR89mTkMHW=fx+Or3RBwqMQfRwrSjQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Judy, Balsarroch will have been a farm. There's only one in Wigtownshire by that spelling that I can see on the current OS Landranger map. It is in the parish of Kirkcolm, about 4km or 2.5 miles west of Kirkcolm village. Balsarroch Wood is marked close by on Google Maps. If your BELLs were not from Kirkcolm, there are other similar named farms in the parishes of Penninghame, Mochrum, and Stoneykirk. Perhaps there may have been one in Wigtown also. Spelling was rather arbitrary prior to the 19th century, and the farther back in time, the more variations one will find, so those other farms could easily have been recorded at some time as Balsarroch. What parish were your BELLs in, and over what time span? Regards, Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 11:19:17 +0100 (BST) From: Margaret McDowall <mmcd109@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Cc: dutchess@wn.com.au Message-ID:     <1367662757.84765.YahooMailClassic@web171606.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 There is a farm in Mochrum called Barsalloch is it maybe the same place you are looking for Margaret McDowall ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 22:57:58 +0800 From: Donald and Sue Main <donald.main@iinet.net.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1B5D9948-BEA2-41AC-A260-4384D74A1BB3@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I am not sure if I have replied properly but Balsarroch is a ruin  (farmhouse?) about 2 miles due west of Kirkcolm in the elbow of the  B738 road where it does a sharp turn to the left or to the south. I am  not sure if there are any other places called by the same name. Donald Main. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 09:09:41 +1000 From: "ailsa158" <ailsa158@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Cc: dutchess@wn.com.au Message-ID: <002401ce491c$75d77710$61866530$@optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Hi Judi, Re your message below: "Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 17:18:23 +0800 From: "Judi Hollands" <dutchess@wn.com.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com Hi Wig Listers Just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction?  I am after any information on Balsarroch.  Many of my early BELL ancestors are recorded as being born, dying or residing at Balsarroch - what exactly was it?  A farm? A town? A region??? Thanks, in anticipation of a response. Regards Judi" I wonder if the place 'Balsarroch' could be the same as 'Balsalloch', a farm in Penninghame. Regards Ailsa ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 *********************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Barsalloch farm IS in Wigtownshire. It's located on the coast just north of Wigtown. My gr gr grandfather James Hannay worked there in 1850. I visited it in 2003 and it is still a working farm. I also have a picture of myself at the front gate. On May 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ******************************************************************************** > > 11 Feb 2013 > All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. > > ********************************************************************************Today's Topics: > > 1. Balsarroch (Mary Forsyth) > 2. Re: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80, Balsaarroch > (Donald and Sue Main) > 3. Re: Balsarroch (Bruce McDowall) > 4. Re: Balsarroch (Margaret McDowall) > 5. Balsarroch (Donald and Sue Main) > 6. Re: Balsarroch (ailsa158) > > From: Mary Forsyth <mar_for2003@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 3:24:45 AM CDT > To: "sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: Mary Forsyth <mar_for2003@yahoo.co.uk> > > > Hi Judi > > There is a Balsalloch Farm, but it is in Ayrshire not Wigtownshire. > > Mary > > From: "sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com" <sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com> > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 8:00 > Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ******************************************************************************** > > 11 Feb 2013 > All Wig list subscribers are in digest mode until list mode starts working again. > > ******************************************************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Balsarroch (Judi Hollands) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 17:18:23 +0800 > From: "Judi Hollands" <dutchess@wn.com.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001b01ce47df$29a2d760$7ce88620$@wn.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Wig Listers > > Just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction? I am after > any information on Balsarroch. Many of my early BELL ancestors are recorded > as being born, dying or residing at Balsarroch - what exactly was it? A > farm? A town? A region??? > > > > Thanks, in anticipation of a response. > > > > Regards > > > > Judi > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 > *********************************************** > > > > From: Donald and Sue Main <donald.main@iinet.net.au> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80, Balsaarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 5:02:21 AM CDT > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > > > > On 04/05/2013, at 3:00 PM, sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Balsarroch (Judi Hollands) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Balsarroch is a ruined building about a couple of miles due west of Kirkcolm inside the elbow of the B738 road which turns sharp left when traveling from Kirkcolm. Presumably once a decent farmhouse but I am not sure if there are any other places with a similar name. > Donald Main > > > > > > From: Bruce McDowall <milldriggan@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 5:04:22 AM CDT > To: Judi Hollands <dutchess@wn.com.au> > Cc: Wig List <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > > > Hi Judy, > > Balsarroch will have been a farm. > There's only one in Wigtownshire by that spelling that I can see on > the current OS Landranger map. It is in the parish of Kirkcolm, about > 4km or 2.5 miles west of Kirkcolm village. Balsarroch Wood is marked > close by on Google Maps. > If your BELLs were not from Kirkcolm, there are other similar named > farms in the parishes of Penninghame, Mochrum, and Stoneykirk. Perhaps > there may have been one in Wigtown also. Spelling was rather arbitrary > prior to the 19th century, and the farther back in time, the more > variations one will find, so those other farms could easily have been > recorded at some time as Balsarroch. > What parish were your BELLs in, and over what time span? > > Regards, > Bruce > > > > > From: Margaret McDowall <mmcd109@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 5:19:17 AM CDT > To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com > Cc: dutchess@wn.com.au > > > There is a farm in Mochrum called Barsalloch is it maybe the same place you are looking for > > Margaret McDowall > > > > > > > From: Donald and Sue Main <donald.main@iinet.net.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 9:57:58 AM CDT > To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com > > > I am not sure if I have replied properly but Balsarroch is a ruin (farmhouse?) about 2 miles due west of Kirkcolm in the elbow of the B738 road where it does a sharp turn to the left or to the south. I am not sure if there are any other places called by the same name. > Donald Main. > > > > > From: "ailsa158" <ailsa158@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > Date: May 4, 2013 6:09:41 PM CDT > To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> > Cc: dutchess@wn.com.au > > > > > Hi Judi, > Re your message below: > "Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 17:18:23 +0800 > From: "Judi Hollands" <dutchess@wn.com.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Balsarroch > To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com > > Hi Wig Listers > Just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction? I am after > any information on Balsarroch. Many of my early BELL ancestors are recorded > as being born, dying or residing at Balsarroch - what exactly was it? A > farm? A town? A region??? > Thanks, in anticipation of a response. > Regards > Judi" > > I wonder if the place 'Balsarroch' could be the same as 'Balsalloch', a farm > in Penninghame. > Regards Ailsa > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 > *********************************************** > > > > > To contact the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE mailing list, send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. Thanks, Layton