This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2173.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Richard Are you aware that Gladys Sivert was William Claves second wife?? his first wife was Genevieve Harrington 1899-1838 they had 2 children Robert William Clave 1924-1994 and Marion Harrington Clave 1926-1992. Robert married Ora Mae Beasley and Marion married Chester E Almstom.. According to information I have traced Gladys was listed as "teacher" . Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes! I agree with Bruce, it could well be mis -transcribed Gilbert (Sivert) I couldn't trace a marriage between Gladys Clave (Sivert) to Gilbert. I have come across this error on many occasions throwing me well off track. Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rgdickson39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2173/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks to Nancy and others on the research with my cousin Gladys E. Clave (Sivert). She is a relative from my Mothers side of the family (Sivert), Married a William Clave and possibly someone named Gilbert in later life, but have no info on that. Any other info would be appreciated, but you all have helped me a lot. -Richard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SMULVEY Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce and others on the Wigtownshire mailing list - the message came through the list because he posted the original message on the Wigtownshire Message Board and was gatewayed to the List. I don't know why this was posted here??? Susan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: milldriggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Richard, Your original message was gatewayed to the Wigtownshire mailing list, which is how I came to read it. Others reading this thread tat way will not see your subsequent edit unless they click on the link to the message board. Its not apparent why the message went to the Wigtownshire message board. Did William Clave originate or have ancestry there? I see that Nancy has provided some good information. The only thing I can add right now is my thought that Gladys may not have married a GILBERT. If the information giving her family name as GILBERT was a transcript, I suggest that you obtain a copy of the original document to check if Sivert has been incorrectly transcribed as Gilbert. I've seen so many hand-written records and so many accompanying transcription errors that I can picture just how such an error could occur. Of course the error could be the other way around, but if Gladys had Swedish parents as suggested, SIVERT may be the better fit. Regards, Bruce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could this be her in 1993.. Gladys E Gilbert Birth Date: 11 Sep 1907 Phone Number: 632-7988 Address: 52 Missionary Rd # 104, Cromwell, CT, 06416-2170 (1993) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found this which looks like your Gladys.. Gladys E. Gilbert Last Residence: 06416 Cromwell, Middlesex, Connecticut Born: 11 Sep 1907 Died: 21 Feb 2006 State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi milldriggan I traced Gladys Elizabeth Clave (Sivert) born 11 September 1907 Massachusetts to Swedish parents (I didn't take a note of this because I'm assuming our chap already has this information) Gladys and her husband William Clave can be found listed on the 1948-1953 registers living at 112 Pirie Av N Albany New York. There are 2 or 3 class photos of Gladys as a soprano singer with the Girls Glee Club...As you say, more details will help, I stopped because I wasn't sure how much information our chap has and didn't want to waste too much time just in case.. Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: milldriggan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It may help if you can give more details - especially anything you already know about where and when this couple married, and where and when they were born. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi guys, Down here in New Zealand we are reknown for using No8 wire to fix anything. (That is a reference to the ply of wire that is used for fencing all over NZ as we keep all our flocks and herds in fenced paddocks). I guess I don't want to know all the reasons why the list is failing but can it be rectified by closing the list and re starting with a new name? The list archive would remain attached to the old list for search reasons. How about SCT-Wigtownshire-new ??? Claire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rgdickson39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2172/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Need some information on Gladys E. Clave (Sivert). Married a William Clave who died in Florida, and I have been unable to find any information on Gladys since. Would appreciate any help, thank you! -Richard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: IreneClayton52 Surnames: Adair Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2171/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am currently doing research for a Ms Adair in London who descends from this family. (Thomas WS /Rev Andrew) She would like to correspond with others who have the same interest, Unfortunately she does not have a computer. If anyone is happy to PM me an address, or I can give her address, with her permission. I should have more detailed information in a few days Thanks Irene Clayton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear listers, I'm posting for a couple of reasons. First of all, I wanna make a post show up in a digest since we haven't had one since September 23rd, and some of you have asked me if our list is still alive. Yes, it is, but we're clearly limping. If you ever wonder if you've missed a post, you can always check our archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE/. More importantly, I want to update all you faithful listers about the state of our list mode. My Rootsweb contact used to update me monthly about our problem (albeit with nothing to report), and then his reports became more sporadic. I last heard from him four months ago, so I wrote to him earlier this month. What I received from him wasn't promising. Apparently there have been two management changes this year, which could have impeded resolution of our problem. Our contact says he remains hopeful about a resolution, but we don't share his optimism and have told him that we're discouraged. With Crawford and Bruce's agreement, I've written to our contact and suggested a possible bypass to our problem. It's creative and unconventional, but it's also drastic. We await Rootsweb's response to our idea. If they agree to it, we'll share more about it on the list because it will affect all of us. Until then, we thank you SO much for your continued patience. Mary P.S. Have I mentioned that we're not the only list with this problem? INDIA has it, too -- succumbed to broken list mode "illness" about three months after we did. I keep in touch with the INDIA list administrator. He and I have yet to find other lists that are affected like ours.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: swresearch Surnames: McKie, Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2170/mb.ashx Message Board Post: List of paths in Wigtownshire. Aldouran Glen, Leswalt.... Ardwell Estate.... Baldoon.... Balloch Wood.... Bardroch Wood, Newton Stewart.... Bay House to West Cairngaan.... Black Loch, Leswalt.... Blairmount Park, Newton Stewart.... Brockloch Fell, Cairnryan.... Cairnhead to Garlieston.... Cairnpat.... Cairnsmore of Fleet.... Carsluith to Kirkmabreck.... Castle Clanyard to Mulrea.... Castle Kennedy.... Clauchrie Moor, Wigtown.... Corsewall Estate and Kirkcolm Circular.... Corsewall Lighthouse to Mains of Aries.... Craigencallie, Cree Valley.... Craignarget..... Creebridge.... Creetown to Bagbie.... Drummore to Ardwell.... Drummore to Maryport.... Dunragit, Droughduil School.... Dunskey Estate, Portpatrick.... Falbae, Creetown.... Fish Pond, Port Logan.... Garlieston to Innerwell.... Gass Moor.... Glenkitten Fell.... Glenkitten Fell to Lagafater Lodge.... Glenluce.... Glenluce Area.... Glentrool.... Glenwhan Moor.... High Auchneel to Meikle Galdenoch.... High Three Mark to Cairngarroch.... High to Low Weirs! ton, Leswalt.... Isle of Whithorn to Burrowhead.... Isle of Whithorn to Cairnhead Farm.... Isle of Whithorn to St. Ninian's Cave.... Killantringan Bay... Kirkcowan Village Walk.... Kirkinner Circular.... Kirkmabreck.... Kirroughtree Walks.... Knock Bay to Killantringan.... Knockfell Whitefield Loch.... Knockinaam to South Kirklauchline.... Knockman Wood.... Lady Bay to Corsewall Lighthouse.... Larbrax Shore to Portslogan Bridge.... Lochnaw, Estate Leswalt.... Logan Mains to Port Gill.... Mains of Aries to High Auchneel.... Marslaugh to Glenside.... Maryport South to Mull.... Meikle Galdenoch to Larbrax Shore.... Millisle to Sorbie railway.... Mindork Moss, Kirkcowan.... Minigaff Suspension Bridge.... Monreith.... Monreith and Blairbuy Farm Path.... Mull of Galloway.... Murray's Monument.... Newton Stewart Cycle Path East.... Newton Stewart Cycle Path South.... North Balfern Kirkinner.... Penninghame Ponds.... Port Logan to Low Clanyard (old post road).... Port William....! Portpatrick to Knockinaam Lodge.... Portyerrock to Garlieston.... Rot ary Club Path Cairnryan.... Sandhead to Ardwell.... Sandhead Village.... Sorbie.... Sorbie North Forest Walk.... South Kirklauchline to Float Bay.... Stairhaven to Auchenmalg.... Stranraer South.... Stranraer to Kirkcolm.... Stranraer Town East.... Stranraer, Springbank Farm.... The Merrick.... Three Lochs, Kirkcowan.... Torrs Warren.... West Cairngarroch to Little Float.... West Ringuinea to Port Gill.... Whithorn.... Whithorn to Garlieston Railway Line.... Whithorn to the Isle.... Wigtown.... Wigtown Harbour.... Wild Wood and Torwhinnoch Hill... Wood of Cree There are a number of paths on each route. For more details on all the paths see the information at http://www.dumgal.gov.uk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: swresearch Surnames: McKie, Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2169/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Photos of places in Penninghame Civil Parish are at : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:do9uPvg2UoMJ:commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Penninghame &cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au Wikimedia.commons has deleted them, but they are in the above google webcache. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/historymedicine/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/introduction/ FYI. Maisie

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jo Ann Croft <jecroft290@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:14 AM Subject: Re: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 137 To: Wig List <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Did any children emigrate? I have found a few deaths in the US where the elderly parents went to live with children. It's not easy as the US records are very spotty. Jo-Ann Croft > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:52:35 +1000 > From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Charles HUGHES m1827 Mary MACKIE at PENNINGHAME > To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002801ceb2d3$3c45bd10$0500a8c0@family> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I'm stuck on the parents of Mary Mackie. > > The marriage appears on Scotland's People and Family Search. > > They have nine children between 1829 and 1848 baptised at various > parishes of Kirkcowan, Whithorn and Penninghame. > > I've traced them through every census from 1841 to 1871, where he is > an Ag Lab living at Challoch in Penninghame. > > In 1881, they have moved to Edinburgh, where he is a gardener. Both > are aged around 75. But then they seem to disappear. I can't find any > matching deaths after 1881 anywhere on Scotland's People. > > I'm wondering if anyone can recognise this couple or offer any > suggestions for me to follow. > > Peter in Sydney > >

Peter - I have a letter written from scotland to the US in 1865 that mentions "old David McKie's" death in Wigtownshire area (Penninghame parish). Also buried in Clachen were many McKies. They are mentioned on 14 pages of the booklet "Clachan of Penninghame Kirkyard Memorial Inscriptions." It would probably be worthwhile to purchase it if you don't have it already. McKies mentioned are John, son John son Peter, son Wm, son John, Jean, Margaret, Agnes, Elizabeth, Grizzel, Janet, Alexander, Andrew etc.= > > 1. Charles HUGHES m1827 Mary MACKIE at PENNINGHAME (Peter R Booth) > > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:52:35 +1000 > From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [WIG LIST] Charles HUGHES m1827 Mary MACKIE at PENNINGHAME > To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002801ceb2d3$3c45bd10$0500a8c0@family> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I'm stuck on the parents of Mary Mackie. > > The marriage appears on Scotland's People and Family Search. > > They have nine children between 1829 and 1848 baptised at various parishes of Kirkcowan, Whithorn and Penninghame. > > I've traced them through every census from 1841 to 1871, where he is an Ag Lab living at Challoch in Penninghame. > > In 1881, they have moved to Edinburgh, where he is a gardener. Both are aged around 75. But then they seem to disappear. I can't find any matching deaths after 1881 anywhere on Scotland's People. > > I'm wondering if anyone can recognise this couple or offer any suggestions for me to follow. > > Peter in Sydney > > ------------------------------ > >

I'm stuck on the parents of Mary Mackie. The marriage appears on Scotland's People and Family Search. They have nine children between 1829 and 1848 baptised at various parishes of Kirkcowan, Whithorn and Penninghame. I've traced them through every census from 1841 to 1871, where he is an Ag Lab living at Challoch in Penninghame. In 1881, they have moved to Edinburgh, where he is a gardener. Both are aged around 75. But then they seem to disappear. I can't find any matching deaths after 1881 anywhere on Scotland's People. I'm wondering if anyone can recognise this couple or offer any suggestions for me to follow. Peter in Sydney

I picked up on this from the Wigtownshire's People Facebook page. I wish I had something to contribute, but I don't think my large McCULLOCH ceramic platter will suit! Mary ____________________________________________________________________________ Here's a wee message from Fran at <http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.happysnail.net&h=mAQFVOL77AQEMY-6COOQaeOsl78T0wBv7AN-uO79karF4JA&s=1>www.happysnail.net, can anyone help her out? : As you may know, I am an extreme knitter using HUGE needles and 'yarn' made from clothing, blankets etc.... I am asking people to donate small objects to me that hold a memory of a person from Wigtownshire or an event in their lives that happened in Wigtownshire. Small beads from a wedding dress, a button from grannies favourite coat, a buckle from a shoe.....anything with a special meaning that can be sewn into the hanging. I am also looking for material to use as the base of the hanging. I will be cutting it into strips, sewing the strips together and then making a 'ball of yarn'. I already have had a kilt donated! When I am given an item, I want to record who has given it to me and why it is important to them. The records of the items and the stories they hold will be kept in a folder/booklet with the hanging and will be a permanent record of memories and the people who make Wigtownshire so special and unique. The finished article will be donated to the Whithorn trust as a piece of social history. If you have anything you would like me to include please let me know. The stories of everyday people are a huge part of our history! Fran