Thanks, Mark. Since Wigtownshire isn't in what was formerly known as Dumfriesshire, you might consider posting this info on the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list, too: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY.html. Mary At 02:22 PM 11/9/2013, Mark Wheelan-Lamont wrote: >Since the list is now back up and running I thought I'd do my bit. > >Here are Dumfries listings from Australian papers to 1860 in case >they are of use to anyone. >...

>From the Dumfries Weekly Journal 27th December, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Newton Stewart, on the 21st curt. the wife of Mr John Pogue, aged 41." "At her house, Hanover Street, Stranraer, on the 10th inst. Mrs Janet Kincaid, relict of the late Mr M'Kie, at the advanced age of 98." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 20th December, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Portpatrick, on the 14th instant, in the 42d year of her age, Mrs Catherine Niven, spouse to Mr Andrew Niven. - Sincerity in friendship, and candour in manner and conversation, were characteristics of this worthy lady; and she bore her severe illness with such singular resignation and patience, as proved highly gratifying to her relatives and acquaintances, by whom she will be long and sincerely regretted. - also, on the 16th, her infant son, James Milligan Niven." "At Edinburgh, on the 28th ultimo, Miss Wilhelmina Hathorn, daughter of the deceased Hugh Hathorn of Castlewigg, Esq." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 29th November 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Stranraer, on the 18th curt., Jessie, only daughter of William Milligan, Esq. writer, aged 6 years." At Auchmantle, parish of Inch, on Friday last, Mrs Douglas, much and deservedly regretted." "Suddenly, at his house, in the vicinity of Stranraer, on Thursday last, William Douglas, Esq. commonly known by the title of the Duke of Douglas." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 22d November, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "Suddenly, at Portpatrick, on the 15th ult. owing to the rupture of a blood vessel, Mrs Janet Gordon, spouse of Mr William Gordon, of the Downshire and (Basics) Arms, aged 62." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 4th October, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "On the island of Jamaica, in July last, Thomas M'Quistin Angus, Esq. lately of Stranraer, a young gentleman, whose premature fate is deeply felt, and will be long remembered by all who had the pleasure of his acquaintance." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 7th June, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "Suddenly, after about 14 hours' illness, William M'Nielly, corn dealer, Kirkinner, much regretted." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 3rd May, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "Died Suddenly at Tobago on the 2d of March last, Mrs Elliot, wife of George Elliot, Esq., Resident Commissary in that island, and eldest daughter of the deceased James M'Millan, Esq. of Barwhinnock." Diana enry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 5th April, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Stranraer, on the 26th March, James Caird, Esq. of Drumfadt, writer in Stranraer, and Secretary for the Hon. Commissioners for improving the Portpatrick harbour. - Mr Caird held various important situations in the county of Wigtown, in one and all of which he distinguished himself by his ability, perseverance, and attention. His death is justly lamented by his near relatives, and by all who had the pleasure of knowing him; and in an especial manner by his brethren of the profession, who looked up to him with that regard and esteem to which he was so justly entitled, and which by his modest and unassuming manners he truly merited." Diana enry

>From the Dumfries Weekly Journal 1st March, 1825 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Stranraer, on Friday, the 18th ult. at an advanced age, Mrs Bennoch - much and deservedly regretted." "At Wigton, on Monday last, Mr Andrew Ogilvie, junior, only son of the Rev. Andrew Ogilvie, of the United Secession Church in that place. He was a young man of great abilities and promise as a preacher of the gospel, and his premature death will be long sincerely felt and deeply regretted by his father's flock, as well as by every member of the Established Church who had the pleasure of his acquaintance." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 22nd February, 1825Sourced by Robert Wells "At Newton Stewart, on Saturday, the 19th, Nathaniel Fullarton, Esq. writer, there." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 18th January, 1825Sourced by Robert Wells "At Cairnside, parish of Kirkcolm, on the 7th current, after a few days illness, Mr James Ralston, a young man whose gentlemanly conduct endeared him to a numerous circle of friends and acquaintances, by whom his premature decease will be long remembered and deeply lamented." Diana Henry

Hello Peter, Have you seen all this about the family: http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331819?d=desc&page=2 Joyce Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:41 AM To: sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 160 1. Charles HUGHES m1827 Mary MACKIE at PENNINGHAME (Peter R Booth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:38:06 +1100 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [WIG LIST] Charles HUGHES m1827 Mary MACKIE at PENNINGHAME To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601cedc44$b38d45b0$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" REPOST OF SEPTEMBER MESSAGE --------------------------- I'm stuck on the parents of Mary Mackie. The marriage appears on Scotland's People and Family Search. They have nine children between 1829 and 1848 baptised at various parishes of Kirkcowan, Whithorn and Penninghame. I've traced them through every census from 1841 to 1871, where he is an Ag Lab living at Challoch in Penninghame. In 1881, they have moved to Edinburgh, where he is a gardener. Both are aged around 75. But then they seem to disappear. I can't find any matching deaths after 1881 anywhere on Scotland's People. I'm wondering if anyone can recognise this couple or offer any suggestions for me to follow. Peter in Sydney

Hi Folks, Yes, it is great to see List mode operational again. This is a response to Linda McKee <lasm4mckee@hughes.net> who wrote: <<I am very interested in the surname M'Harg of all spelling and wonder if you all know if this is originally of  Graham heritage?  How true is it that McHargue sic are actually the Graham of old?>> and <<I know there's other places appropriate to post this query but I am especially interested in the thoughts of this group being you are all such experts (IMO)  and with such versatility in your local knowledge.>> Hi Linda, have you looked at this website:  www.mchargueclan.org I met the webmaster recently while she was visiting our DGFHS Research Centre in Dumfries. She told me there is no evidence supporting this "story" about Maharg being the reverse of Graham.  Perhaps one hapless branch of Grahams made that change because of sheep stealing, or banishment by the king or other reasons of moral turpitude.   The Mac Harg family as a whole descends from a common Mac Harg ancestor.   The DNA evidence shows the common ancestor of the Mac Hargs / Mehargs / McHargs lived as much as 900 years ago.  Some form of our name has existed for that long. This predates the stories about the Graham switch which usually take place in the 16th century. We do not descend from the Grahams. (Please refer to the section on the DNA project for further information.)   The story appears to have started in The Steel Bonnet by George McDonald Fraser who does not give his source.  The DNA says that the story is not true. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a similar story which makes McGEORGE, another D&G family name, a derivation of a rearranged McGREGOR. Cheer, Sandy ________________________________

REPOST OF SEPTEMBER MESSAGE --------------------------- I'm stuck on the parents of Mary Mackie. The marriage appears on Scotland's People and Family Search. They have nine children between 1829 and 1848 baptised at various parishes of Kirkcowan, Whithorn and Penninghame. I've traced them through every census from 1841 to 1871, where he is an Ag Lab living at Challoch in Penninghame. In 1881, they have moved to Edinburgh, where he is a gardener. Both are aged around 75. But then they seem to disappear. I can't find any matching deaths after 1881 anywhere on Scotland's People. I'm wondering if anyone can recognise this couple or offer any suggestions for me to follow. Peter in Sydney

Hello Sandy, Thanks so much for such a great response. It was good to see the McHargue website again and has been a few years since I visited same and also traded some emails with Glynnis at that time. I have absolutely no reason to think there is any other explanation than Glynnis, and now yourself, have shared with me. Although I always try and keep an open mind and a bit of a glimmer of hope as more and more records are extracted that some shadowy picture might rise up and find some of those perhaps lost souls again. I will have to look to find the story "The Steel Bonnet" and set my mind at ease on this curiosity that keeps rearing up a couple of times a year or so. The brickwalls are always popping up. Nasty little buggers they are indeed. And, have bookmarked The McHargue again, think I lost the link two or three computers ago, and I very much appreciate your very knowledgeable response. Very good of you--thanks so much. Linda McKee On 11/8/2013 1:55 PM, Sandy Pittendreigh wrote: > Hi Folks, > Yes, it is great to see List mode operational again. > > This is a response to Linda McKee <lasm4mckee@hughes.net> who wrote: > > <<I am very interested in the surname M'Harg of all spelling and wonder if > you all know if this is originally of Graham heritage? How true is it > that McHargue sic are actually the Graham of old?>> > and > <<I know there's other places appropriate to post this query but > I am especially interested in the thoughts of this group being you are > all such experts (IMO) and with such versatility in your local knowledge.>> > > Hi Linda, have you looked at this website: www.mchargueclan.org > <http://www.mchargueclan.org/> > I met the webmaster recently while she was visiting our DGFHS Research > Centre in Dumfries. > > She told me there is no evidence supporting this "story" about Maharg > being the reverse of Graham. Perhaps one hapless branch of Grahams made > that change because of sheep stealing, or banishment by the king or > other reasons of moral turpitude. The Mac Harg family as a whole > descends from a common Mac Harg ancestor. > The DNA evidence shows the common ancestor of the Mac Hargs / Mehargs / > McHargs lived as much as 900 years ago. Some form of our name has > existed for that long. This predates the stories about the Graham switch > which usually take place in the 16th century. We do not descend from the > Grahams. (Please refer to the section on the DNA project for further > information.) > The story appears to have started in /The Steel Bonnet/ by George > McDonald Fraser who does not give his source. The DNA says that the > story is not true. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > There is a similar story which makes McGEORGE, another D&G family name, > a derivation of a rearranged McGREGOR. > > Cheer, > Sandy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > **

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal, 14th December, 1824 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Newton Stewart, on the 10th current, Miss Jane Wilson, aged 32, eldest daughter of Mr John Wilson, merchant; having been for many months in a declining state of health, she viewed her approaching dissolution with a composed mind, & christian resignation." "On the 6th curt, at Corwarhill, of the typhus fever, Andrew Milwain, apprentice to Mr William Milligan, painter in Newton Stewart, a young man possessed of promising abilities in his profession, amiable of disposition, and interesting manners, much esteemed by his master, and his sorrowing friends will long cherish a fond remembrance of his worth." Diana Henry

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal, 12th October, 1824 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Barwhinnock, on the 29th ult., George Douglas M'Millan, Esq. late of Kingston, Jamaica, son of the late James M'Millan, Esq. of Barwhinnock, aged 37 years." "On the 29th ult., in the 68th year of her age, after a protracted illness, which she bore with Christian resignation, Mrs Jane Taylor, spouse to Mr Thomas Taylor, Portpatrick." Diana Henry

>From the Dumfries Weekly Journal 14th September, 1824 Sourced by Robert Wells "At Newton-Stewart, on the 7th current, aged 74, James M'Harg, carter. He had been that morning at the port of Palneur for a cart of lime. After having disposed of the lime, and put the horse into the stable, he was returning into his own house, when he fell down, and in less than two hours was a corpse." Diana Henry

SORRY A CORRECTION HERE, SHOULD READ "JOURNAL" NOT "STANDARD" >From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 20th July, 1824Sourced by Robert Wells "At Newton Stewart, on the 9th inst., Marion, third daughter of Mr Peter Hughes, merchant, aged 20 years. The esteem of all her acquaintances, and the recollection of the many virtues will be long cherished by her sorrowing friends." "At Liverpool, on the 14th inst., Mr Robert Hannay, late of Cree Bridge, Newton Stewart." Diana Henry