Hi there Can someone who has access to the 1851 census for Edinburgh census please have a look for the following for me and see if you can find out what the old girl's name was please. Hopefully they were at the same address 3 years previously. SPENCE, Mrs - D2/9/1854 - At Peckham Rye, on the 2d inst., Mrs John Spence, of 50 Great King Street, Edinburgh. Thanks Randy

Meg, I see that in the National Archives of Scotland, search form, http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ that by clicking the “AND” box and typing in the person’s surname and “sasine” it comes up with some sasines.

Meg, re:The local Family History Center is supposed to have this film with sasines in it : #0217086 - Wigt Sasines 1781-1830 Wigtown, v. 1. 1781-1830 Wigtownshire is not the topic for the entire film. ............. I see the Dumfries Achives contains : Abridgements and indexes to the sasines of Wigtown-shire 1617-1970, and I wonder if they have a booklet on same.

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 22nd April, 1828 Sourced by Robert Wells "Awfully suddenly, on the 13th current, while on his way from Gatehouse to Wigtown, in the 61styear of his age. Mr Thomas Rae, parochial schoolmaster of the latter place.He had travelled in a taxed cart to the Ferry, and having crossed the bay in a boat, had walked homewards in the evening by the moss of Cree, near the Grange, where his body was found lying in the middle of the road next morning. " Diana Henry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NutmegGreenwood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The entire Archives of the Wigtownshire Mailing List [or any Rootsweb Mailing List] can be read by going to the Homepage for that List and clicking on BROWSE the Archives. That link for the Homepage is here for Wigtownshire : http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE.html Anyone can freely READ every post and even personally respond to the sender by looking for their eMail address in the header. However they cannot POST to the List until they Subscribe as Mary details in her recent post. Joining [subscribing] would be the most helpful however if that's not desired, every post on this subject [or any post ever sent to the List since its inception in 1996 although it finally got going in 2001] can be read in its entirety without subscribing. The option to SEARCH the Archives uses a searchword/words and returns pertinent posts with what you've asked for. The Wigtownshire List usually provides quite reliable answers to questions asked, there are a lot of Subscribers and a great many have information that can be useful in these mystery situations. I too would recommend Subscribing to the Mailing List however keep in mind the alternative to Search/Browse all of the posts up to today's date. Am really enjoying having the List working again....! . Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ==================================== Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

The FHC has no actual booklets on this topic, only microfilms of the original sasines or maybe the Indexes for the records. This film mentionied here is on the shelf. Might not get to check it til the weekend, but I'm hoping to get there before then. The catalog shows this for contents : Index to places, to abridgement of sasines : 1781-1830 [a series of 13 films] Selkirk, v. 1., 1781-1830 Stirling, v. 1-2. 1781-1830 Sutherland, v. 1. 1781-1830 Wigtown, v. 1. 1781-1830 ======================== MegG in OK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 11/27/2013 1:23 AM, scotire wrote: > Meg, re:The local Family History Center is supposed to have this film with > > sasines in it : #0217086 - Wigt Sasines 1781-1830 Wigtown, v. 1. 1781-1830 > > Wigtownshire is not the topic for the entire film. > > ............. > > I see the Dumfries Achives contains : > Abridgements and indexes to the sasines of Wigtown-shire 1617-1970, > and I wonder if they have a booklet on same. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryrichson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lori, you clearly have an interest in Wigtownshire. Your message board posts are being forwarded to Rootsweb's Wigtownshire mailing list. Wig listers are replying to you via the list rather than to the message board, so I don't think you're seeing everything that might help you. Might I suggest that you join the Wigtownshire mailing list, so you'll see everything. Subscription instructions are at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE.html. If you have questions, please write me at mrichson@ix.netcom.com. Mary Richardson SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list administrator Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: spidertat Surnames: McCormick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Much thanks for the info Malcom Lori Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

>From The Dumfries Weekly Journal 22nd April, 1828 Sourced by Robert Wells "Awfully suddenly, on the 13th current, while on his way from Gatehouse to Wigtown, in the 61st year of his age. Mr Thomas Rae, parochial schoolmaster of the latter place. He had travelled in a taxed cart to the Ferry, and having crossed the bay in a boat, had walked homewards in the evening by the moss of Cree, near the Grange, where his body was found lying in the middle of the road next morning. " Diana Henry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theta100 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lori, The Non-conformist and non Parochial registers show the following which I have summarised and not copied. Allexr. Milhench Tailor of Little Windmill Street and Hester his wife had James, Son born 30 May 1760 Elizabeth, Daughter born 2 May 1761 Jean, Daughter born 1 Dec 1762 Mary, Daughter born 25 Sept 1764 All which children were Baptized by the R'd Mr John Patrick about three weeks after their respective births Lower down the same register is Anthony son to Allexr Milhench, Tailor and Hester his wife was born in Hungerford Street in the Parish of St Martin in the Fields on the 16 Sept year 1768 and Baptized on the 6 October in said year by R'd John Patrick Malcolm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Land and Property Refer : http://www.scan.org.uk/knowledgebase/topics/sasine_abbs_faq4.htm Registers of Scotland Executive Agency keep Scotland's National Land and Property Registers. They have digitised the search sheets which provide a way of finding the deeds and sasines for a property. By going to the "citizen's area" of their web site it is possible to obtain information about a property - without using this you may have to search a variety of indexes of sasines.

Searching the sasines. The register of sasines is comprehensive and consequently it is theoretically possible to trace the progression of ownership of every property in Scotland from 1617 to the present day. This is a fairly mechanical process but it is not always quick. Since 1876 the government has maintained a series of search sheets for property in Scotland. These identify the volume and page numbers of all the sasines and deeds for a given building or piece of land and can be used as a starting point for searching back in time. Copies of the search sheets for particular properties can be purchased from: Registers of Scotland, Erskine House, 68 Queen Street, Edinburgh, EH2 4NF. ................................................... Alan Stewart, a member of the "Scotland's People" User Group and the author of Gathering the Clans: Tracing Scottish Ancestry on the Internet (Phillimore, 2004), wrote"SCAN hopes to digitize the NAS's collection of sasines (land records dating back to 1599). National Archives of Scotland GB234/RS, Particular Register of Sasines,WIGTOWN, First Series 1619-1657 ; Second Series 1658-1869 ; Minute Books 1620-1869 ...................................................... The National Archives of Scotland has : Reference B72. Records of Wigtown Burgh Register of Sasines (1st Series), 1724-1809 Register of Sasines (2nd Series), 1809-1928 Register of Sasines (2nd Series) - Minute Books, 1820-1928 Burgh Rental Book, 1542-1599. ........................................................... On 22 July 2004 Jim Houston wrote - “The document is blurred, smeared, faded and written in Scottish secretary's hand and to top things off, written partially in Latin! I have included a few of these fragments below in the hope that someone on this list may recognize a name and either confirm that I have decoded the name correctly or help me correct the name. The specific document is Fo.78 from the Records of Whithorn Burgh, Register of Sasines (1st Series) {note that I have not used the original spelling in all cases}: * "At Whithorn the fifteenth day of January, seventy hundred and twenty three" * Anthony Houston and his wife Katherine Dunlop * George Martin of Cutcloy * John Dunlop * John Garoch * James Garoch * William Kelso * John M'Kelso [son of William Kelso] * William Houston deceased of Pennsylvania * James Comitem?" (Count / Earl of Galloway) * William McGonane * Caroline? Campbell and her husband? James McGuffock * Thomas? Graham? * deceased Anthony? McMillian * Charles Campbell “ ........................................................................ Jim also wrote: Source: "Records of Whithorn Burgh, Register of Sasines (1st Series) (RepCode 234, Repository National Archives of Scotland, Reference B71/1/, Date 24 Aug 1684-4 Apr 1732), Fo 77 Ref to James Garroch and his spouse Katherine Houstoun, 10 Jan 17.” Thankyou Jim.

Searching the sasines. The register of sasines is comprehensive and consequently it is theoretically possible to trace the progression of ownership of every property in Scotland from 1617 to the present day. This is a fairly mechanical process but it is not always quick. Since 1876 the government has maintained a series of search sheets for property in Scotland. These identify the volume and page numbers of all the sasines and deeds for a given building or piece of land and can be used as a starting point for searching back in time. Copies of the search sheets for particular properties can be purchased from: Registers of Scotland, Erskine House, 68 Queen Street, Edinburgh, EH2 4NF. ................................................... Alan Stewart, a member of the "Scotland's People" User Group and the author of Gathering the Clans: Tracing Scottish Ancestry on the Internet (Phillimore, 2004), wrote"SCAN hopes to digitize the NAS's collection of sasines (land records dating back to 1599). National Archives of Scotland GB234/RS, Particular Register of Sasines,WIGTOWN, First Series 1619-1657 ; Second Series 1658-1869 ; Minute Books 1620-1869 ...................................................... The National Archives of Scotland has : Reference B72. Records of Wigtown Burgh Register of Sasines (1st Series), 1724-1809 Register of Sasines (2nd Series), 1809-1928 Register of Sasines (2nd Series) - Minute Books, 1820-1928 Burgh Rental Book, 1542-1599. ........................................................... On 22 July 2004 Jim Houston wrote - “The document is blurred, smeared, faded and written in Scottish secretary's hand and to top things off, written partially in Latin! I have included a few of these fragments below in the hope that someone on this list may recognize a name and either confirm that I have decoded the name correctly or help me correct the name. The specific document is Fo.78 from the Records of Whithorn Burgh, Register of Sasines (1st Series) {note that I have not used the original spelling in all cases}: * "At Whithorn the fifteenth day of January, seventy hundred and twenty three" * Anthony Houston and his wife Katherine Dunlop * George Martin of Cutcloy * John Dunlop * John Garoch * James Garoch * William Kelso * John M'Kelso [son of William Kelso] * William Houston deceased of Pennsylvania * James Comitem?" (Count / Earl of Galloway) * William McGonane * Caroline? Campbell and her husband? James McGuffock * Thomas? Graham? * deceased Anthony? McMillian * Charles Campbell “ ........................................................................ Jim also wrote: Source: "Records of Whithorn Burgh, Register of Sasines (1st Series) (RepCode 234, Repository National Archives of Scotland, Reference B71/1/, Date 24 Aug 1684-4 Apr 1732), Fo 77 Ref to James Garroch and his spouse Katherine Houstoun, 10 Jan 17.” Thankyou Jim.

Lori, You don't say where you've tried. Scotland's People is a pay site. So others aren't going to look for you. It should have your ancestors in early church records, but the level of detail will vary. It's doubtful the lived beyond 1855 when civil registration was introduced with a lot more data. If you find a death, it might be worthwhile looking for monumental inscriptions. There's many great sites depending on the area. You might try Genuki. Also you might find Elizabeth's christening on London Parish Records on Ancestry which should give her father. Peter

Well done Malcolm, I tried for ages..

Lori, The Non-conformist and non Parochial registers show the following which I have summarised and not copied. Allexr. Milhench Tailor of Little Windmill Street and Hester his wife had James, Son born 30 May 1760 Elizabeth, Daughter born 2 May 1761 Jean, Daughter born 1 Dec 1762 Mary, Daughter born 25 Sept 1764 All which children were Baptized by the R'd Mr John Patrick about three weeks after their respective births Lower down the same register is Anthony son to Allexr Milhench, Tailor and Hester his wife was born in Hungerford Street in the Parish of St Martin in the Fields on the 16 Sept year 1768 and Baptized on the 6 Octobert in said year by R'd John Patrick Malcolm > From: pbo08596@bigpond.net.au > To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:05:24 +1100 > Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Michael McCormick Mid 1700s > > Lori, > > You don't say where you've tried. > > Scotland's People is a pay site. So others aren't going to look for you. > It should have your ancestors in early church records, but the level of > detail will vary. It's doubtful the lived beyond 1855 when civil > registration was introduced with a lot more data. > > If you find a death, it might be worthwhile looking for monumental > inscriptions. There's many great sites depending on the area. You might try > Genuki. > > Also you might find Elizabeth's christening on London Parish Records on > Ancestry which should give her father. > > Peter > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The local Family History Center is supposed to have this film with sasines in it : #0217086 - Wigt Sasines 1781-1830 Wigtownshire is not the topic for the entire film, there must not have been an huge amount of documents that were filmed in this effort. This is the coverage for the entire film : Selkirk, v. 1., 1781-1830 Stirling, v. 1-2. 1781-1830 Sutherland, v. 1. 1781-1830 Wigtown, v. 1. 1781-1830 Let me check it and report on condition and searchability [if there is an index or not]. MegG in OK ========================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: spidertat Surnames: Re Michael McCormick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Im Afraid all i know is that his wifes Family came from Wigtownshire,tho her Baptism was 2 Oct 1761, Lisle Street, London, England.Her maiden name was Elizabeth Milhench..All 4 Children, Isabella,Peter,Agnes and William McCormick, where born between 1795 and 1812 in Wigtownshire Lori Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nancy_G57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you any idea where he was born/where and when he was married? Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: spidertat Surnames: McCormick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2177/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any info on Michael McCormick born around mid 1700s ,married to Elizabeth Milhench Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>