Can anyone connect to the following family James Handley and Elizabeth Carle married 18 Dec 1856, Whithorn, Wigtownshire children - William Handley born 28 Feb 1858, Whithorn - Mary Handley born 15 Feb 1861, Whithorn - James Hanly born 17 Feb 1874, Sorbie According to the 1861 census James Handley senior was born 1836 Glasserton. James Handley was the informant on my GGGG Grandfathers death certificate. John Dodds died 13 June 1858 at Ravenstone, Glasserton. Cause was disease of the heart. Informant - James Handley, Grandson The problem is i don't know which of Johns children was James Handleys mother/father. Any help or suggestions would be sincerely appreciated. Deborah

Hello Can anyone tell me where someone who died in Glasserton would have been buried ? I am looking for the burial place of my ancestor's John Dodds died 13 June 1858 and his wife Marion Morrison died 7 Dec 1867. They also had several children who died between 1810-1830. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Deborah

Hello All, My family left Scotland in May 1775 from Port Stranraer via the Jackie of Glasgow and traveled to US and settled in North Carolina. We have had research completed by Debrett that traces us back to Wigtonshire/New Luce/Inch. Our family (6 of us) are planning a visit to Scotland this summer and would like to meet some of our distant cousins, if the interest in us is strong. We would also like to attend Church where our ancestors attended if possible, and see the cemeteries where they may be buried. Please advise any information you may have of the following family: John Dalrymple in Muill, Kircowan, later in Mark of Luce, died in 1767 aged 83. Married Mary McWhinney circa 1722. They had the following children: 1. James b. circa 1724 married Margaret Milnay. James d. circa 1774. Had children John, William, Mary, Elizabeth and Margaret (possibly Janet and Agnes) 2. John b. circa 1726 married Margaret Gordon. Emigrated to North Carolina with his family of six children 3. Alexander, date of birth unknown. Living in Mark of Luce. Father of John and James (the latter possibly born in 1777) 4. William, date of birth unknown. Possibly married to Agnes McClellan and father of John who was born in Old Luce in 1774, residing in Liverpool in 1817. 5. Thomas, born 1736 (OPR entry) Probably in Upper Mandorke in 1775 when he acted as cautioner for Alexander Dalrymple when Alexander was appointed as executor to his father, John. 6. Archibald born in 1727 died 1768 (death entries for Old Luce) Thank you in advance for your help and interest. Best Regards, Kathy Brooks Jordan 1424 Pumping Station Road Sanford, NC USA

Hi Lynn I found 2 more children in the IGI (www.familysearch.org) Mary Scott baptised 24 Feb 1859 William Scott born 29 Apr 1862 This is the other baptisms in the IGI - Martha Scott bap. 12 Nov 1850 - Ann Chalmers Scott bap. 21 Apr 1854 - Joseph Scott bap. 2 May 1856 The family are also in the 1841 census, so i imagine they must have immigrated at the start of 1841. 1841 census, Glasserton, Wigtownshire Address - Barlcraig W F Joseph Scot, 20, Ag Lab ,b. Ireland Ann Scot , 20, ,b. Ireland Margaret Scot , 6 months, ,b. Ireland The date of the 1841 census was the night of 6 June 1841. 1861 census, Glasserton, Wigtownshire Address- Drummoddie Cot House HEAD - Joseph Scott, 40, Ag Lab ,b. Ireland WIFE - Agnes Scott , 40, ,b. Ireland SON - Thomas Scott, 13, , b. Glasserton DAUG - Martha Scott, 10, , b. Glasserton DAUG - Ann Scott , 8, ,b. Glasserton SON - Joseph Scott , 5, ,b. Glasserton DAUG - Mary Scott , 2, ,b. Glasserton Hope this helps, Deborah Lynn Scott <lts64@bellsouth.net> wrote: Hello, Everyone-- I'm not sure if I've posted my info in a detailed way, so I thought I'd put it out to the list again. I'd appreciate any extra information. What I have is from the 1851 census through the Wigtownshire web site and also the IGI. The Joseph and Agnes Scott burial at Glasserton Kirkyard is personal knowledge. If anyone sees anything more from OPRs, cemetery listings, etc., I'd appreciate knowing it. Thank you in advance. Joseph Scott, b. Ireland, 1821-24. Immigrated to Scotland, as far as I know, 1841-1845. Died, bur. Glasserton Kirkyard, 27 Apr 1898. Lived and worked at S. Drumoddie Farm. I do not have anything prior to the 1851 census. Agnes Whitby Scott, wife of Joseph. B. Ireland abt 1821. Died, buried Glasserton Kirkyard 27 April 1895 Margaret Scott, b. Ireland abt 1841. Death? John Scott, b. Glasserton, abt 1845. Immigration? Death? Thomas Scott, b. Glasserton abt 1848 Martha Scott, b. Glasserton abt Nov. 1850 Ann C. (Chalmers? Chambers?) Scott, b. Glasserton 1854, d. Glasserton March 1916 Joseph Scott, b. Glasserton 02 May 1856, D. Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 24 Aug. 1906 Lynn in Fla. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/691 - Release Date: 2/17/2007 5:06 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many, many thanks for this, Diana. As you will see from my mail sent a little earlier today, I have now been in touch with Percy, with very positive results. Please thank your husband for his input into this. Best wishes, Jenny Gibson, Toowoomba, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: DIANA HENRY To: sct-wigtownshire@roots Cc: Jennifer Gibson Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:32 AM Subject: JORDAN As Promised here is the Obit for Leslie O. Jordan. WFP 1/7/1971:- "Well Known Stranraer man, Mr Leslie O. Jordan (67) died suddenly at his home on Monday morning. An Englishman by birth, he came to the district when his father took up duties as a coastguard at Portpatrick. Mr Jordan was director and sales manager with Messrs James McHarrie (Stranraer) Ltd. He had been with the firm since he joined as an apprentice in 1921 and his valued services were recognised on the occasion of his retiral a few years ago. During the war years he was with the engineering department of the Department of Agriculture for Scotland and was responsible for the tractor services in the Rhins. A keen golfer he was a lifetime member of Dunskey of which club he was a past captain. He was a former winner of the Solway Cup, the trophy played for by the motor trade in Dumfries and Galloway. For several years he was match secretary and starter at Creachmore and his work behind the scenes was tremendous in its enthusiasm and efficiency. Like his father before him, Mr Jordan was a Freemason and Past Master of Lodge Kilwinning No 208. He was also for a number of years treasurer of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Galloway. He is survived by his wife and son. His son Percy and his family now live in Australia where they emigrated in 1969." I hope this is happy for you Jenny in Toowoomba. Diana !DSPAM:45d7583a29094889113817! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/690 - Release Date: 16/02/2007 2:25 PM

G'day all, A big thank you to those members of the list who gave me information on Percy Osborne JORDAN's migration to Australia. I tracked down his address via our telephone white pages on-line and wrote to him. And within hours of him receiving my letter, I had a phone call from him!! He has also been researching his family, but on the JORDAN side - my focus has been on the GIBSON side - so he is going to send me further info on the family. This will fill in some of the gaps I still had, and break down a couple of potential brick walls. Hopefully we will get to meet one day, but he lives on the opposite side of Australia to me - several thousand miles away. But there are possibilities and potentials. Again, thank you all for your assistance with the George SMITH (his mother was the GIBSON whose offspring I was following up on) and Janet McQueen JOHNSON family following their arrival in WIG about 1904. Your help has been very much appreciated. Jenny Gibson, Toowoomba, Australia

Hello, Everyone-- I'm not sure if I've posted my info in a detailed way, so I thought I'd put it out to the list again. I'd appreciate any extra information. What I have is from the 1851 census through the Wigtownshire web site and also the IGI. The Joseph and Agnes Scott burial at Glasserton Kirkyard is personal knowledge. If anyone sees anything more from OPRs, cemetery listings, etc., I'd appreciate knowing it. Thank you in advance. Joseph Scott, b. Ireland, 1821-24. Immigrated to Scotland, as far as I know, 1841-1845. Died, bur. Glasserton Kirkyard, 27 Apr 1898. Lived and worked at S. Drumoddie Farm. I do not have anything prior to the 1851 census. Agnes Whitby Scott, wife of Joseph. B. Ireland abt 1821. Died, buried Glasserton Kirkyard 27 April 1895 Margaret Scott, b. Ireland abt 1841. Death? John Scott, b. Glasserton, abt 1845. Immigration? Death? Thomas Scott, b. Glasserton abt 1848 Martha Scott, b. Glasserton abt Nov. 1850 Ann C. (Chalmers? Chambers?) Scott, b. Glasserton 1854, d. Glasserton March 1916 Joseph Scott, b. Glasserton 02 May 1856, D. Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 24 Aug. 1906 Lynn in Fla. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/691 - Release Date: 2/17/2007 5:06 PM

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Source: ADAIR@rootsweb.com Subject: [ADAIR] Adair, Ross, Gibb / Gabby, Par Portpatrick, Wigtownshire, This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Adair, Ross, Cuming, Gibb, Gabb, Gabby Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.adair/874.866.867.884.1.1.2.1.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: re: Portpatrick parish, Wigtownshire, Scotland. marriages. ADAIR, Alexander & GABBY Agnas, 8 May 1786. Thomas Gabb (Gibb / Gabby ?) m.prior 1763 Agnes McWilliam, had son David Gibb. The baptism of Mary Gabby is also found in the register. Another sibling, whose baptism was not located, appears to be Agnas Gabby. The marriages of these Gibb family members were found in the register: David Gibb m.1. 9 Nov 1784 Agnes ROSS David Gibb m.2. 16 Dec 1806 Ann CUMMING / CUMING Agnes Gabby m. 8 May 1786 Alexander ADAIR Mary Gabby m. 3 Feb 1787 Andrew ROSS

I just returned from a trip down the Oregon State coast and want to again say thank you to all who keep adding information to the family tree. Thanks especially to Wayne, Bruce and Malcolm this week. Joan

Many thanks to Diana Henry and Meg Greenwood for finding the OPR's of the Wallace children of Daniel Wallace and Janet Corkran. They were all born at Cairngarroch. Thanks again Diane _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Hi Doug If the date of Mary's death was after 1855, when Civil Registration began, then you ought to be able to find her Death certificate in www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It will cost 6 Pounds for 30 credits. By the way you cannot take for granted everything you read. Whether it be censuses, certificates or tombstones. It's not always the person concerned who fills in the details. Ages at death are frought with error. The deceased aren't there to argue. Here are two examples of discrepancies out of quite a few in my tree. My ggrandfather is shown as being born in Bannockburn in the 1881 Census. He was born in Cadder according to his Birth Certificate. He lived in Bannockburn from infancy so assumed he was born there and never bothered to look at his Birth Certificate. My mother, who was the best person I have ever known with numbers, was the informant for her mother's death certificate. My grandmother died in NSW, Australia and the names and ages of the progeny of the deceased are shown on the death certificate. My mother was so distraught that she got her OWN age incorrect. Great fun though. Ella Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Ryan" <dryan2@cinci.rr.com> To: <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:55 AM Subject: [WIG LIST] Stevensons in Wigtownshire > First I want to say how valuable all the postings have been. The > notices and newspaper articles are wonderful windows into 19th century > life. > I am trying to find out more about my g-g-g-grandmother, Mary Stevenson > Craney. From what information I have she was born about 1815, although > her tombstone states she was born in 1826. That means she was only > seven when she married Laurence Craney in January, 1833. According to > the census of 1851, she was born in Kirkinner. I find no birth records > for a Mary Stevenson, in 1815ish, in Kirkinner. Anyone out there with > Stevenson family around Kirkinner Parish. Any help will be greatly > appreciated! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As Promised here is the Obit for Leslie O. Jordan. WFP 1/7/1971:- "Well Known Stranraer man, Mr Leslie O. Jordan (67) died suddenly at his home on Monday morning. An Englishman by birth, he came to the district when his father took up duties as a coastguard at Portpatrick. Mr Jordan was director and sales manager with Messrs James McHarrie (Stranraer) Ltd. He had been with the firm since he joined as an apprentice in 1921 and his valued services were recognised on the occasion of his retiral a few years ago. During the war years he was with the engineering department of the Department of Agriculture for Scotland and was responsible for the tractor services in the Rhins. A keen golfer he was a lifetime member of Dunskey of which club he was a past captain. He was a former winner of the Solway Cup, the trophy played for by the motor trade in Dumfries and Galloway. For several years he was match secretary and starter at Creachmore and his work behind the scenes was tremendous in its enthusiasm and efficiency. Like his father before him, Mr Jordan was a Freemason and Past Master of Lodge Kilwinning No 208. He was also for a number of years treasurer of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Galloway. He is survived by his wife and son. His son Percy and his family now live in Australia where they emigrated in 1969." I hope this is happy for you Jenny in Toowoomba. Diana

Hi All, I found this obit today. from WFP 1/7/1971 "Mrs Margaret Fern Lewis of 441 Cornelia Street, Boonton, USA, died recently. She was 94. Mrs Lewis was born in Glenluce and went to Boonton when she was 14 and was once back home. She was a daughter of the late Mr and Mrs Edward Fern. Mrs Lewis is survived by a son and five daughters and her two sisters. Her son, Mr Thomas H. Lewis, was in Glenluce on holiday at the time of his mother's death. Mrs Lewis was an aunt of Mr M.J. Little, Glenluce."

Hi Thanks for the answers to my questions. I obviously had a different idea in my head of the meaning of vintner. I looked it up in the dictionary and it is a seller of wine. The 1852 directory has over a dozen listed for Stranraer - was it local product or was the demand enough for this many to be importing and on selling. Obviously you didnt drink water and the poor drank ale or whisky but ...... And what was my Robert then that was different as he was listed as a "wine & spirit merchant". He came from irish labourer background so would not have had money to start up a business but is the only member of the family I have so far traced who "made good". regards Pauline Melbourne

Boonton appears to be in Morris Co., New Jersey -- western reaches of greater New York City. At 02:22 PM 2/17/2007, Diana Henry wrote: >..."Mrs Margaret Fern Lewis of 441 Cornelia Street, Boonton, USA, >died recently....

Hi, Laurie -- We corresponded last summer. Were you able to get in touch with Vicki Ellis? Bruce and I did some research on your family for Vicki back in 2005: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/S/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE+2005+23855492284+F http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/S/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE+2005+25715891672+F Did you find Laurence and Mary in 1841? There were enumerated as CRONNIEs: Piece: SCT1841/889 Place: Kirkinner -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Kirkinner Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkinner Folio: 6 Page: 7 Address: Kildarroch ---------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CRONNIE Laurence M 25 Agricultural Labourer Wigtownshire CRONNIE Mary F 30 Wigtownshire CRONNIE Eudard M 7 Wigtownshire CRONNIE Sarah F 6 Wigtownshire CRONNIE Jane F 4 Wigtownshire Remember that in the 1841 census, people who were at least 15 were supposed to have their ages rounded DOWN to the nearest multiple of five. That means Mary could have been anywhere between 30 and 34. If your grave info is from an MI transcription, the stone may well read 1816, not 1826. There were two STEVENSON families in 1841 Kirkinner. You can find them at http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl. Back in 2000, Trevor Smith <tsmith@shoal.net.au> was researching the John and Letisha SOMERVILLE STEVENSON family. According to Trevor, their daughter Letisha Jr. married William McCLELLAND. You can find these McCLELLANDs in 1841 Kirkinner at Barness. In 2002, Jan McKenzie <jangary@shoal.net.au> also expressed interest in John and Letisha's family. Hope this gives you some new leads -- Mary Richardson At 01:55 PM 2/17/2007, you wrote: >First I want to say how valuable all the postings have been. The >notices and newspaper articles are wonderful windows into 19th century life. >I am trying to find out more about my g-g-g-grandmother, Mary Stevenson >Craney. From what information I have she was born about 1815, although >her tombstone states she was born in 1826. That means she was only > seven when she married Laurence Craney in January, 1833. According to >the census of 1851, she was born in Kirkinner. I find no birth records >for a Mary Stevenson, in 1815ish, in Kirkinner. Anyone out there with >Stevenson family around Kirkinner Parish. Any help will be greatly >appreciated!

First I want to say how valuable all the postings have been. The notices and newspaper articles are wonderful windows into 19th century life. I am trying to find out more about my g-g-g-grandmother, Mary Stevenson Craney. From what information I have she was born about 1815, although her tombstone states she was born in 1826. That means she was only seven when she married Laurence Craney in January, 1833. According to the census of 1851, she was born in Kirkinner. I find no birth records for a Mary Stevenson, in 1815ish, in Kirkinner. Anyone out there with Stevenson family around Kirkinner Parish. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

BIRTHS EWING, Male - B27/2/1855 - At Awhirk, parish of Stoneykirk, on the 27th ult., Mrs Ewing, of a son. BROWN, Male - B21/2/1855 - At the Free Church Manse, Castle Douglas, on the 21st ult., Mrs Brown, of a son. KIRKPATRICK, Female - B31/12/1854 - At Bangalore on the 31st December last, the wife of James Kirkpatrick, Esq., M.D. of a daughter. MATTHEWS, Male - B4/3/1855 - At Kirkton House, Carlisle, on the 4th inst., the wife of Thomas Matthews, Esq., banker of a son. MACMEIKAN, Male - B16/11/1854 - At Errol Street, North Melbourne on the 16th Nov. the wife of James A. MacMeikan, Esq., of a son. CROMBIE, Male - In the WFP 8/3/1855 - At L(othian) Street, the wife of David Crombie, Esq., and daughter of the late Thomas Hodgson of Newcastle on Tyne, of a daughter. MARRIAGES CHRISTIE, Mr - M5/3/1855 - At Knockville, on the 5th instant, by the Rev. Mr Richardson, Mr Christie, schoolmaster, Bargrennan, to Miss M'Geoch. LACEY, Thomas - M26/2/1855 - At Sorbie on the 26th ult., by the Rev. E.K. Sloan, Mr Thomas Lacey, Wigtown, to Miss Mary M'Guffie, Bladnoch. DEATHS LAURIE, Jean - D6/3/1855 - At Bridge of Aird, parish of Inch, on the 6th instant, Jean Laurie, aged 21 years. CAMPBELL, William - D4/3/1855 - At the house of his son, Laigh Float, Stoneykirk, Mr William Campbell, at the advanced age of 99. He retained his faculties to the last. Deceased was for many years tenant in the farm of Toskerton, Kirkmabreck, and Float, was respected by all who had the pleasure of his acquaintance, and bore his illness with Christian fortitude and resignation Friend at a distance will please accept this intimation. (Note- William Campbell died on 4th March, 1855 and his remains lie in Kirkmadrine Churchyard. "Stoneykirk and Kirkmadrine Memorial Inscriptions, Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society") KERR, James - D6/3/1855 - At Portwilliam, on the 6th inst., aged 19 years, James, son of Mr Archibald Kerr, joiner, Cairnryan. RICHARDSON, Sarah - D1/3/1855 - At Gatehouse-of-Fleet, on the 1st instant, Miss Sarah Richardson, aged 68 years. WALKER, Elizabeth - D2/3/1855 - At Gatehouse, on the 2d inst., Elizabeth Walker, aged 17 years. WILLIAMSON, Gordon - D3/3/1855 - At 54 Carter Street, Manchester, on the 3d instant, Gordon, third son of the late James Williamson of Sypland, Kirkcudbright.

re recent mentions of Auldana - a snippet of biography : <<AULD, PATRICK (1811-1886), VIGNERON, was born in Wigtownshire, Scotland, son of William Auld, farmer, and his wife Mary, née Stevenson. At Stranraer, Wigtownshire, in 1835 he married Eliza McKeniel. With his wife and three children he migrated to Adelaide in 1842 and began trading as a publican and later as a wine and spirits merchant in Hindley Street. He sold this business in 1846 and conducted his trade from his property, Home Park, Magill, until 1849 when he went to England. He returned to Adelaide in 1852, leaving his wife to attend to the children's education in England until 1854. Auld resumed his wine and spirits business in Adelaide and also began planting the Auldana vineyard.>> etc... It later mentions a son in Manchester. Betty ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html