Hi John, For a longer answer, one needs to distinguish between original OPR records and Index entries. FamilySearch.org enables one to search different types of sources, one of which is the IGI. The IGI is an index of selected sources, one of which is the OPRs. Although the majority of OPR baptism and marriage records have been extracted to the IGI, it is not complete. This may explain Jack's finding of OPRs via Scotlandspeople which he didn't find via the IGI, although that can also arise from search strategy. It may also work in reverse. As for any secondary source, the IGI is also subject to occasional TRANSCRIPTION ERRORS. One should not simply rely on the data from the IGI, rather, one should use the source information to access the the original record. Not only can one check for transcription errors, but there is often useful ADDITIONAL INFORMATION on the original record. (Many IGI records are extracted from patron contributions, or LDS procedural files, which cannot be checked against original sources. In such cases, one needs to be careful not to rely too heavily on the data.) Whether you access an image of an original OPR record via Scotlandspeople or an LDS microfilm, it is exactly the same record. There may be some differences in the quality of the reproduction, but in any case, it will be an image of the original handwritten entry in the parish register. Regards, Bruce __________________ The short answer is yes. I have found OPR entries at ScotlandsPeople that were not available from FamilySearch.org. Whether that happens for everyone, I could not say. Jack Butler -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Dunn Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: Wigtown List posting Subject: [WIG LIST] Scotlandpeople pre1855 Data Hi Folks I tried the sundaymail coupon and enjoyed my visit to Scotlandspeople...the post 8155 data was very helpful. Now that I am considering more time on their site I was wondering if the pre-1855 data is any different than what the LDS website has? Thanks John in Canada

Hi Bill, I may be the McKeand/MacKeand that you've seen posting on the list. You are correct in thinking that it is a Wigtownshire name; it is mentioned as such in at least two of the older works on the area that I'm aware of. One of those is M'Kerlie's late 19th century book on the lands and landowners, and you'll find extracts of that in the web site "Wigtownshire Pages". Another was the Edinburgh Encyclopedia, which was published about 1800 and an article on Wigtownshire mentions the name. The early history is however very thin. I've been able to take the name back to the late 1600s, though without a very strong linkage before the mid 1700s. The place with the strongest McKeand associations is Penninghame, and there's some backup for saying that Barsalloch (a farm on the river road from Wigtown to Newton Stewart) was their center. County Down is next door, with just the "Sheuch" in between and clearly many families have moved in both directions, but I've not seen anyone that would correspond with your Peggy McKeand in my line. There are also other McKeand branches (in Wigtownshire) that have no presently known connection with my family, and I'm sure that I don't have a complete picture of the siblings, certainly not before about 1800. My best estimate is that there were about 150 - 200 McKeands in Wigtownshire in the late 1700s. But other than these general thoughts on the family, I can't tell you too much! If you take a look at the web site spatial-literacy.org and enter "McKeand" you'll see where they were by 1881 (and in 1998 too). Galloway, and more particularly Wigtownshire, is clearly their home turf. I've also taken a look to see if Richard Ball's Elizabeth McKeand might appear in my tree, but although our family was strong in the Sorbie area in the mid to later 1800s, I don't see her in there either. Regards, Crawford MacKeand.

The sundaymail coupon was a "lifesaver" for me. Made quite a bit of headway. If anyone else knows of another valid coupon name, please pass it on and share the wealth. Kaaron

If anyone is poking around in graveyards in Sandhead, Stranraer, Inch, Penningham, Darvaird, and Kirkmabreck, could you please look out for the following names? Names are: Robert Weir (d 30 Jan 1888) Sarah Weir m.s. Greenan/Granan/Grannan/Gray/Drynan (d 21 May 1901), Jane McMasters m.s. Weir (d 3 Dec 1868), James Weir (d 8 Feb 1918), Elizabeth Weir m.s. Robbins (d 8 March 1947), John Weir (d 16 July 1925), Mary Ann Weir m.s. Logan (d 8 May 1930), John Weir (d 12 July 1931), James Weir (d 23 October 1884 child), Mary Ann Weir (d 26 Nov 1894 infant). Thanks very much in advance. I appreciate your efforts, bit hard for me to search from Australia. Kaaron

My g grandmother was Elizabeth McKeand. She was an only child was the word passed down in the family. In 1846 she married James Nelson on the Macherstewart near Sorbie. In 1879 James & Elizabeth came to America along with their remaining 5 of 10 children. The other 5 died prior to their departing in 1879. They came 1st to San Francisco for a few months, then moved N to Oregon and settled a short distance S of The Dalles. I'd be thrilled to hear from anyone who may know of her ancestry. Kind regards, Richard Ball Canby, Oregon, USA >From: "William Kelly" <william.kelly7@tesco.net> >To: <Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] MCKEAND >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:19:02 +0100 > >I notice the name McKeand pops up occasionally and that there are sometimes >posts by a contributor named McKeand. > >I think I've just discovered the name in my family tree. It was not a name >I had heard before and as the writing on the death certificate was not >clear >I had left the name blank for the moment. When I looked at it again this >week I am pretty sure the name is McKeand so I'm wondering if any of those >with this name in their family tree might be able to confirm. > >My Great Grandparents Patrick and Sarah McCluskey (nee Shevlin) lived in >Wigtown but were originally from Ireland. Sarah, I think was born in >Ireland about 1820 but her brothers Edward and John were both born in >Wigtown. > >Sarah's father was Edward Shevlin (born in County Down but died in Wigtown >in 1860). His parents were Patrick Shevlin and Peggy McKEAND. I imagine >they would have lived in County Down, but perhaps the name McKeand >indicates >a closer link with Wigtown from an earlier time? > >I'd be very interested to hear if this rings any bells with others >researching this family. > >Wirh best wishes, > >Bill Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Don’t quit your job – Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144

Did this expire and I missed it as I couldn't make it work? Thanks Syd Hughes -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Daryl & Karonne Sent: April 17, 2007 7:26 AM To: Wigtownshire List; dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] free credits for Scotlands People Thank you for your tip Pauline, Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and log in if already a member. New users are required to complete a registration form. Once logged in, click NEED MORE. You will be taken to a page where you should enter the voucher code 'sundaymail'. You will then be allocated 20 FREE credits It does work, Karonne in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I notice the name McKeand pops up occasionally and that there are sometimes posts by a contributor named McKeand. I think I've just discovered the name in my family tree. It was not a name I had heard before and as the writing on the death certificate was not clear I had left the name blank for the moment. When I looked at it again this week I am pretty sure the name is McKeand so I'm wondering if any of those with this name in their family tree might be able to confirm. My Great Grandparents Patrick and Sarah McCluskey (nee Shevlin) lived in Wigtown but were originally from Ireland. Sarah, I think was born in Ireland about 1820 but her brothers Edward and John were both born in Wigtown. Sarah's father was Edward Shevlin (born in County Down but died in Wigtown in 1860). His parents were Patrick Shevlin and Peggy McKEAND. I imagine they would have lived in County Down, but perhaps the name McKeand indicates a closer link with Wigtown from an earlier time? I'd be very interested to hear if this rings any bells with others researching this family. Wirh best wishes, Bill Kelly

The short answer is yes. I have found OPR entries at ScotlandsPeople that were not available from FamilySearch.org. Whether that happens for everyone, I could not say. Jack Butler -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Dunn Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: Wigtown List posting Subject: [WIG LIST] Scotlandpeople pre1855 Data Hi Folks I tried the sundaymail coupon and enjoyed my visit to Scotlandspeople...the post 8155 data was very helpful. Now that I am considering more time on their site I was wondering if the pre-1855 data is any different than what the LDS website has? Thanks John in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well I tried to get in there and could not. I must be doing something wrong. Patricia -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Dunn Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: Wigtown List posting Subject: [WIG LIST] Scotlandpeople pre1855 Data Hi Folks I tried the sundaymail coupon and enjoyed my visit to Scotlandspeople...the post 8155 data was very helpful. Now that I am considering more time on their site I was wondering if the pre-1855 data is any different than what the LDS website has? Thanks John in Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.4/768 - Release Date: 4/19/2007 5:32 AM

Hi Folks I tried the sundaymail coupon and enjoyed my visit to Scotlandspeople...the post 8155 data was very helpful. Now that I am considering more time on their site I was wondering if the pre-1855 data is any different than what the LDS website has? Thanks John in Canada

Hi Kaaron If you join the Dumfries & Galloway Family History Society- you can check their website- http://www.dgfhs.org.uk there are really helpful people who will do look ups for you- there is an agent in Australia who will send you a wee booklet every quarter with helpful genealogy stories. I have been a member for a couple of years and I think I pay about CAN$25 a year- so it's not much- but it is worth the money. Good luck Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Mitchell Mob" <bradybunch13@aapt.net.au> To: <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:25 AM Subject: [WIG LIST] Graveyard inscriptions > If anyone is poking around in graveyards in Sandhead, Stranraer, Inch, > Penningham, Darvaird, and Kirkmabreck, could you please look out for the > following names? Names are: Robert Weir (d 30 Jan 1888) Sarah Weir m.s. > Greenan/Granan/Grannan/Gray/Drynan (d 21 May 1901), Jane McMasters m.s. > Weir (d 3 Dec 1868), James Weir (d 8 Feb 1918), Elizabeth Weir m.s. > Robbins (d 8 March 1947), John Weir (d 16 July 1925), Mary Ann Weir m.s. > Logan (d 8 May 1930), John Weir (d 12 July 1931), James Weir (d 23 October > 1884 child), Mary Ann Weir (d 26 Nov 1894 infant). > > Thanks very much in advance. I appreciate your efforts, bit hard for me > to search from Australia. > > Kaaron > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Way we Were from Wigtown Free Press 19th April, 2007 Thursday, April 21st, 1932 A bride groom, farm worker Charles Hannah failed to turn up at his wedding to Anne Eccles. After waiting for most of the day the guests went ahead and had the wedding supper, the cake was cut and refreshments served. Festivities continued to the early hours of Saturday morning.,

The Way we Were Wigtown Free Press 19th April, 2007 Thursday, April 20th 1882 A female committed house breaking on Monday evening. Shortly after 8 o'clock it was discovered that the shop of Mrs M'Keand, pawnbroker on Queen Street, had been broken into. £87 in bank notes was swiped plus watches, rings, lockets, alberts, blankets, winceys, jackets. Suspicion has fallen upon the daughter of Mrs M'Keand, a Mrs King, who made off to Liverpool on an express train just that night. She was accompanied on the train by a man named Porteous, who had left his wife and three children. But waiting at Liverpool's railway station was the police who had been contacted in advance. And £70 and more money was recovered.

"The Way we Were" from Wigtown Free Press 19th April, 2007 Thursday, April 14th 1907 CANADA - Advertisement The Cry for unskilled labour is greater than ever. Splendid opportunities for healthy men and women in Britain's nearest and greatest colony. 160 acres free - so get your own farm; quit paying rent; happy homes; healthy bracing climate; under the old flag; cheap fares; comfortable and speedy travel. Work is found. our farms for experienced or inexperienced men, for domestic servants for navvies, carters and all willing workers. Flight to Canada Since the Canadian Pacific steamers started calling at Belfast, emigrants from Wigtownshire have been leaving in greater numbers. They are boarding the mail express service and arriving in comfortable time to get on board these vessels. Special subsidised fares to meet the ships in Belfast are being offered for emigrants from Dumfries, Castle-Douglas, Newton Stewart and Stranraer. So great is the present rush to Canada from this area that all the second and third-class accommodation in the Canadian Pacific steamers calling at Belfast are booked up for the next two sailings. Only one passage is now available in May, such is the demand.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ScottDKendall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1870/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, We are looking for participants to represent their McQueen lineages in the McQueen DNA Study. Please visit: http://imdnas.googlepages.com/home for more information. Thanks Scott Kendall Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

fantastic, could everyone who knows about the new voucher codes, please pass them on? Wonderful, I have finally managed to get my great grandfathers birth register. Kaaron

IT WORKS!!!!! Pauline in Melbourne > >> This was posted on Glamorgan FHS. >> For those who have Scottish ancestors as well as Welsh ones: Go to >> www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and log in if already a >> member. New users are required to complete a registration form. >> Once logged in, click NEED MORE. >> You will be taken to a page where you should enter the voucher code >> 'sundaymail'. >> You will then be allocated 20 FREE credits >

At 08:58 PM 4/13/2007, billmellsworth@comcast.net wrote: >Is it likely that someone traveling in 1833 from Wigtown to New York >would go to Liverpool to board the ship? My McCULLOCHs migrated to Michigan, USA, in 1834 on the "Harold," which sailed between Liverpool and New York City. Mary

Thank you for your tip Pauline, Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and log in if already a member. New users are required to complete a registration form. Once logged in, click NEED MORE. You will be taken to a page where you should enter the voucher code 'sundaymail'. You will then be allocated 20 FREE credits It does work, Karonne in Canada

I have a Margaret Jamieson married to John Spence around 1719 and James McClure, 1800-1883 married to Elizabeth (McTaldroch) Taylor in 1818. Both couples lived in Kirkmaiden. Regards Cassandra -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 904 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len