Looking for Rae Ridgeway and Alan Withers do you know what there email addresses are now ? Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Rory Kilpatrick [mailto:rory_kilpatrick@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 5:45 p.m. To: 'alan@withers3554.fsnet.co.uk'; 'craftjunkie25@hotmail.com' Subject: John KILPATRICK I believe I may be related!, My GGrandfather was Alexander Kilpatrick born 28th October 1858, Stoneykirk His father was John Kilpatrick and mother Margaret Wither he Arrived in New Zealand in 1879. He Died 25 July 1938 in Dunedin New Zealand. He married Anges Martin 10th November 1882 and they had 7 Children : Thomas Quale Kilpatrick Sarah Myrtle Kilpatrick Margaret Jane Florence Kilpatrick Alexander James Martin Kilpatrick Mabel Kilpatrick John Ernest Wither Kilpatrick (my Grandfather) Winifred Kilpatrick but died very young. My Grandfather John Ernest Wither Kilpatrick married Vida Pomeroy Wright they had 4 children Colin Colbourne Kilpatrick Alma Gwendoline Kilpatrick Robert Alexander Kilpatrick Alan Martin Wright Kilpatrick My father Alan martin Wright Kilpatrick married Marjorie Eleanor Newton and had 5 children Linda Jane KIlpatirck Kerrie lee Kilpatrick Steven John Kilpatrick Martin Lauchie Kilpatrick Rory Alan Kilpatrick Noticed that this corrispondance was quite old so here's hoping you are still around. From: "Alan WITHERS" < alan@withers3554.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: [WIG] John KILPATRICK Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:59:49 +0100 Hi Rae In case you haven't got it... Stoneykirk MI's have Erected by Margaret Wither in memory of her husband John Kilpatrick died at north port o' spittal 10th Dec 1897 in his 73rd year. Also the above Margaret Wither who died 23rd Feby 1901 in her 75th year. Also their son JOHN WITHER KILPATRICK who died at Kirkbryde Kirkholm 16th Jan 1917 aged 64 years. Also Mary McChlery wife of the above John Wither Kilpatrick who died at Kirkbryde Kirkholm 23rd June 1920 aged 50 years. The old girl must have had a soft spot for your John to stick with him... Just to throw another log on your fire, perhaps Margaret McGarvie was a relative who registered the birth because mother Wither was unable? As well... In loving memory of James Adams beloved husband of Margaret McGarvie who died at port o' spittal 10th Feb 1915 aged 72 years. Also their daughter Jeanie who died in infancy, also the above Margaret McGarvie who died 12th July 1920 aged 77 years. Regards Alan. From: "Rae Ridgeway" < craftjunkie25@hotmail.com> Subject: [WIG] JOHNSTONE/KILPATRICK/McGARVIE Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:15:16 +0000 Hi Listers: Been doing some research (with a little help from a contact in New Zealand, of all places) and I think I've finally found my KILPATRICK's. Info is as follows: (taken from 1881 Census) Parish 898 N. Port of Spittal Farmhouse John KILPATRICK, age 52, head, farmer of 105 acres arable Employing 2 girls and 1 boy, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown Margaret KILPATRICK (m.s. WITHER), age 50, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown James KILPATRICK, age 18, Farmer's son, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown Peter KILPATRICK, age 12, Scholar, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown David KILPATRICK, age 9, Scholar, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown Robert MAIN, age 20, servant, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown Mary PARKER, age 40, General Domestic Servant, born Stoneykirk, Wigtown Elizabeth JAMIESON, age 18, General Domestic Servant, born Portpatrick, Wigtown Now, from what I can figure out, John KILPATRICK had relations with a Margaret McGARVIE (whose occupation is Domestic Servant) sometime between 1860 - 1865, which produced a son, John KILPATRICK. The John KILPATRICK of this union still remains a mystery. I've been unable to locate a birth, or where he was during the 1881 census. Margaret McGARVIE married a James ADAMS in 1868 in Stoneykirk. John ADAMS was a Master Joiner, and they lived at Port of Spittal Joiners House, and had 2 children, William and Sarah. Margaret's father, John McGARVIE, formerly a Ship Carpenter, is also living with them. This is from the 1881 Census. I was wondering if anyone had access to the 1861 Census for the Stoneykirk area. I'd be interested to know if Margaret McGARVIE worked for the KILPATRICK family in a servant capacacity. There is a 14 yr age difference between Margaret and John. Would appreciate any info anyone out there may have regarding these folks. Thanks, Rae (Kilpatrick) Ridgeway Ontario, Canada >From: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-D Digest V02 #285 >Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:01:25 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message13.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> ><< message20.txt >> ><< message22.txt >>

However, you should have 25 results on a page, not six! There is online 'help' on the SP site, and there is also a contact form to email a query to a staff person - they are very helpful, in my experience. First, however, look up 'previous searches' as it may be there in full. Occasionally there are glitches with the search process, but if so you don't lose data or credits. Jenny >Hi Peter, >Doesn't it have a button that says 'view page after' or something like that. >If you click it, it confirms that it will cost a credit. >Diane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AlexanderAdams28 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/483.493.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Sorry but I think that any connection is remote. If you can find a definite link I would be interested. Regards, Alex Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Peter, Doesn't it have a button that says 'view page after' or something like that. If you click it, it confirms that it will cost a credit. Diane >From: "peter Ritchie" <peter@ritchie56.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [WIG LIST] scotlandspeople >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:57:48 +0100 > >Hello Listers, >this is slightly off topic but I know one of you can help.This is my first >time at Scotlandspeople and I done a search with 92 results over four >pages, paid to view and got six results. Question is how do I get the >others, I know each page is 1 credit but I couldn't work out how to get >them. >I Thank You >Peter in Tyneside > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk

Hello Listers, this is slightly off topic but I know one of you can help.This is my first time at Scotlandspeople and I done a search with 92 results over four pages, paid to view and got six results. Question is how do I get the others, I know each page is 1 credit but I couldn't work out how to get them. I Thank You Peter in Tyneside

trying to find where calcaddie is in the parish of inch also does anyone have any info about mccullochs weaving shed situated where hanover st becomes london rd in stranraer cheers derek from france -- Cordialement, F5VCR Courriel : f5vcr@free.fr Post-Joint : <none>.

All three names above were residents in Killiemore village, Dumfries & Galloway. Would like any information and old photographs, particularly of Killiemore. Cheers, Donald Sutherland. -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: 14 May 2007 18:55 To: SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Robert Martin 1915-1989. Anyone please help This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kirstymustard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1873.3. 1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou so much! I am so happy! I really didn't expect to get this much help. I shows the info to my mam and it looks right to her. I can't wait to put in all the information. Again thanks a million! xxxx :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: donaldsut1 Surnames: McNaught, Walker and Yates Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/284.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you still interested in the name Walker? as this is a name in my family history. My grandmother was Maria Georgina Herries Walker who married a Thomas Maxwell Mcnaught on 7th December,1906. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kirstymustard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1873.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou so much! I am so happy! I really didn't expect to get this much help. I shows the info to my mam and it looks right to her. I can't wait to put in all the information. Again thanks a million! xxxx :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In response to the inquiry on Ceilidh. I just returned from a Scottish Festival, which holds a Ceilidh on Saturday night. It's my understanding that in Scotland they are an informal get together inwhich people get up and "entertain". This can be singing, playing an instrument, telling a story, dancing or whatever. Most in the United States have a more formal structure with dancers, pipers and singers. What a wonderful idea to honor someone. Laurie Ryan

Hi Fraser I suspect she has misread the word Servitor, which means an apprentice to a Judge or advocate, or sometimes a Secretary. A Servitrix was a Lady's maid or female servant. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Researching Scottish Ancestors; please visit my website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Fraser Hamilton Sent: 13 May 2007 21:21 To: Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIG LIST] Sorbitor/Sorbitex Today I got a letter from a cousin in Australia who had been reading a film in her local LDS library.Three terms had her puzzled namely umquil,indweller and sorbitor or in the case of a female sorbitrex. I know the meaning of umquil and indweller but what is a sorbitor/sorbitrex? The example she sent me was "Robert Logan sorbitor to Langlands" Check out my family history website at www.btinternet.com/~fraser.hamilton2 ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 12/05/07 18:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 12/05/07 18:40

Probably 'servitor' in 18th century writing. Meaning is a secretary or clerk. Jenny At 20:20 +0000 13/5/2007, Fraser Hamilton wrote: >Today I got a letter from a cousin in Australia who had been reading >a film in her local LDS library.Three terms had her puzzled namely >umquil,indweller and sorbitor or in the case of a female sorbitrex. >I know the meaning of umquil and indweller but what is a >sorbitor/sorbitrex? The example she sent me was "Robert Logan >sorbitor to Langlands"

Today I got a letter from a cousin in Australia who had been reading a film in her local LDS library.Three terms had her puzzled namely umquil,indweller and sorbitor or in the case of a female sorbitrex. I know the meaning of umquil and indweller but what is a sorbitor/sorbitrex? The example she sent me was "Robert Logan sorbitor to Langlands" Check out my family history website at www.btinternet.com/~fraser.hamilton2 ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

>From one Ian to another..... if you believe Black then Jolly, or its earlier form, has a long history going back to before Scotland had emerged as a unified nation. Yes, horrible wet Sunday afternoon, was driven indoors from weeding. Ian

Hi Sandra Slaves were known, and there were merchants and plantation owners from Galloway working out of the West Indies etc., who would certainly own and trade in slaves. The surname 'Jolly' is fairly common, especially around Whithorn. Tradition has it that they were descended from a slave named 'Jolly'. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Researching Scottish Ancestors; please visit my website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-wigtownshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of sandra casson Sent: 13 May 2007 16:24 To: scotland wigtownshire Subject: [WIG LIST] Slave Trade I recently attended a talk on the slave trade and it set me wondering if slaves made up any part of the population of Wigtownshire and the surrounding area. I`ve never read of any reference to them and, if they were members of households, were they listed on the census forms. I appreciate that slavery was supposedly outlawed in 1838 I think it was, three years before the 1841 census, but slavery did apparently continue for some time after that date. Has anyone an answer to my musings on a wet Sunday afternoon in Essex? Regards Cassandra -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1031 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 12/05/07 18:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 12/05/07 18:40

I recently attended a talk on the slave trade and it set me wondering if slaves made up any part of the population of Wigtownshire and the surrounding area. I`ve never read of any reference to them and, if they were members of households, were they listed on the census forms. I appreciate that slavery was supposedly outlawed in 1838 I think it was, three years before the 1841 census, but slavery did apparently continue for some time after that date. Has anyone an answer to my musings on a wet Sunday afternoon in Essex? Regards Cassandra -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1031 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

In a message dated 13/05/2007 16:36:51 GMT Standard Time, sandra188@blueyonder.co.uk writes: I recently attended a talk on the slave trade and it set me wondering if slaves made up any part of the population of Wigtownshire and the surrounding area. I have come across one gravestone in my travels around D&G graveyards which MAY have a connection with slavery. The stone is in the old abandoned graveyard called Trailtrow near Repentance Tower in Dumfriesshire. The inscription reads thus: Here lyes Charles MURRAY, a native of Africa, servant to Mr MURRAY of Murraythwaite, who died 5th February 1776 This is quite a substantial stone and dates to a time when many ordinary local families would have been hard put to afford such a monument. I would guess that Charles was a 'freed' slave, the fact that he bears the name of his 'master' may suggest that he was still 'owned' to some degree. The fact that he was honoured with a monument of carved stone suggest he was held in some esteem. But as I said that is speculation on my part. Have a look at _http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/_ (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/) and click the link to Repentance Tower. The stone is on page two third image down. Sandy

Hi, Maisie. Thanks to you, and Robert who wrote off-list, I have a much better idea of this lady's request. I hope her request was honored by her family and friends. I think I'd rather have a celidh than a funeral myself! :) Thank you so much, Diann . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maisie Egger" <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> To: "Diann" <diann@chartermi.net>; <sct-wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Scottish Ceilidh > > Simply, one might say that a ceilidh is a PARTY! > > It's of Irish, Scottish, Gaelic/Highland tradition, and in the instance of > a death, I suppose it's akin to an Irish wake...though the Presbyterian > Gaels would have frowned on such goings on in the event of a person's > death. > > A ceilidh involves dancing, lots of singing, storytelling, by the local > seannachaidh, or storyteller, who in this instance would talk about the > life of the person who had died. > > I'm just a lowlander, so what do I know? ☺☺☺ > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diann" <diann@chartermi.net> > To: "Wigtownshire" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRe@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:41 PM > Subject: [WIG LIST] Scottish Ceilidh > > >>I recently read an obituary of an 82 year old woman here in the US that >> requested a Scottish Celidh instead of a funeral . >> >> Could anyone englighten me about the Scottish Celidh. I googled the term >> and learned that it was a social dance performed in a circle. I'm >> interested in learning if this is a tradition in Scotland, or if this >> request might have been unique to this individual. >> >> Thank you >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: > 269.6.5/792 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 9:01 PM > >

I recently read an obituary of an 82 year old woman here in the US that requested a Scottish Celidh instead of a funeral . Could anyone englighten me about the Scottish Celidh. I googled the term and learned that it was a social dance performed in a circle. I'm interested in learning if this is a tradition in Scotland, or if this request might have been unique to this individual. Thank you

Dianne, Simply, one might say that a ceilidh is a PARTY! It's of Irish, Scottish, Gaelic/Highland tradition, and in the instance of a death, I suppose it's akin to an Irish wake...though the Presbyterian Gaels would have frowned on such goings on in the event of a person's death. A ceilidh involves dancing, lots of singing, storytelling, by the local seannachaidh, or storyteller, who in this instance would talk about the life of the person who had died. I'm just a lowlander, so what do I know? ☺☺☺ Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diann" <diann@chartermi.net> To: "Wigtownshire" <SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WIG LIST] Scottish Ceilidh >I recently read an obituary of an 82 year old woman here in the US that > requested a Scottish Celidh instead of a funeral . > > Could anyone englighten me about the Scottish Celidh. I googled the term > and learned that it was a social dance performed in a circle. I'm > interested in learning if this is a tradition in Scotland, or if this > request might have been unique to this individual. > > Thank you > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message