A friend whom I introduced to the different rootsweb sites, found this in her sleuthing. Need it be said, mine didn't make it easy to follow either patter, and I'm still on the hunt for a few elusive Scarlet Pimpernels. Maisie ------ From: "Liam Martin" <L.Martin@zen.co.uk> Date: June 3, 2007 10:37:25 AM EST To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NIR-ANTRIM] Scottish naming tradition Reply-To: nir-antrim@rootsweb.com This is from Dumfries & Galloway FHS: Naming Conventions "In the 18th and 19th centuries families tended to name their children in a specific pattern, which can give some guidance to family names: Males: First-born Son Father's father Second-born Son Mother's father Third-born Son Father Fourth-born Son Father's eldest brother Fifth-born Son Father's 2nd oldest brother or Mother's oldest brother Females: First-born Dau Mother's mother Second-born Dau Father's mother Third-born Dau Mother Fourth-born Dau Mother's eldest sister Fifth-born Dau Mother's 2nd oldest sister or Father's oldest sister In some cases you will find that the order is reversed with the first and second children, i.e. the First-born son being named after the Mother's father and the Second-born son after the Father's father. If this is the case then the daughters are also reversed." The Irish Pattern First son after father's father Second son after mother's father Third son after father Fourth son after father's oldest brother Fifth son after mother's oldest brother First daughter after mother's mother (or father's mother) Second daughter after father's mother (or mother's mother) Third daughter after mother Fourth daughter after mother's oldest sister Fifth daughter after father's oldest sister Are these identical or not? Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

>From WFP 5th May, 1884 DEATHS CAMPBELL, James - D25/4/1884 - At Port of Spain, Trinidad, on the 25th ult., suddenly, James, fourth son of the late Mr Campbell, formerly of Balcraig. 19th June 1884 DEATHS LEIGHTON/HUDSON, Agnes - D20/4/1884 - At Winnipeg, on the 20th ult., Agnes Hudson, the beloved wife of Thomas Leighton, aged 20 years - a native of Sorbie. M'CLYMONT/APPLEBY, Isabella - D20/4/1884 - At Latona Post Office, Glenely Township, U.S. on the 20th ult., Isabella Appleby, beloved wife of Mr Alex. M'Clymont, (late of Portpatrick), aged 39 years. DONNAN, Dr. Charles D. - D23/4/1884 - At Richmond, Virginia, U.S.A., on the 23d ult., Dr Charles D. Donnan, aged 23 years, seconds son of J.M. Donnan, late U.S. Consul, Belfast.

>From Wigtown Free Press "The Way We were" 31st May, 2007 1st June, 1882 "The head ostler at the Galloway Arms collapsed and expired at work on Saturday morning. James Cowan, aged 44, was sweeping the inn's stables when he fell to the ground. A gentleman went to his assistance but cold water did not bring him round. A post mortem made on Saturday night by Dr. M'Bride revealed heart disease. A widow and two children have been left." 30th May 1907 "A native of Stranraer now living in Pittsburgh celebrated her hundredth birthday. Born in 1807, Mrs Kerr-Agnew took a sailing ship to the U.S. as a teenager" 2nd June, 1932 "A former Stranraer native now living in Vancouver haw offered a generous donation towards the Garrick Hospital extension fund. Enclosed in a letter was $42 from Mrs B. N'Neil who used to live in Hanover Street in Stranraer. She read about the fund in one of her Free Presses sent over."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcanlen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/940.5.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The John Wilson I am related to was born around 1857/1858, His parents names were Archibald & Elizabeth (maiden name Hunter, married in 1854) All of those names you gave me are common in that family except Daniel. I know John had brothers called James, Archibald & Alexander & i think William aswell. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi there the group has been pretty quiet lately. Iam still researching the NEIL family from Stoneykirk, also the AGNEW and KERR name. I wonder if any one has come accross a Neven or Niven KERR married to a Janet McCAIG. Allison NZ.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rosiebubbles Surnames: Wilson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/940.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Wilson's forenames were Archibald, Daniel, Alexander, John, William and James to mention a few. Some of them were born in Leswalt and some were born in Old Luce and some even in Comonell in Ayrshire. I hope we are the same Wilson as I've hit so many brick walls! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

>From the Wigtown Free Press 21/2/1884 >>MILLIGAN/BARTER(BARTON), Maggie - D7/2/1884 - At Tuticerin, Madras Presidency, on the 7th inst., Maggie, the dearly loved wife of James Milligan, and second daughter of the late Christopher Jolliffe Barter, (Barton). I have 3 generations of MILLIGANs where I have only researched my direct lineage and know of a few collateral lines none of which have a JAMES MILLIGAN. Does this James fit into a tree of any other lister? I would like to know his parenate if possible. Also my friend married into a line of CALDWELL-BARTONs. Regards Jenny Lake Macquarie NSW AUS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcanlen Surnames: McKenery, Wilson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1876/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking to hear from anyone who knows anything about Mary McKenery.She is no relation to me, but she had a illigitimate child which died at 3 years old(in 1881) & on the death cert John Wilson (my great great grandfather) is down as being the "reputed father"John Wilson raised the child as Mary McKenery had died by 1881. If anyone knows anyhing about her it'd be greatly apprieciated Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcanlen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/940.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any forenames for the Wilson's you are looking for?I am related to John Wilson who married Maggie Brown in Leswalt in 1884 & have quite a bit of information for the Wilson family Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcanlen Surnames: Brown,Wilson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1875/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have any information on James Brown, who married Susanna Rafferty in Girvan in February 1857?They moved to the Portpatrick area & had 12 children( that I know of)I am related to Margaret (Maggie) Brown their 2nd daughter who married John Wilson in 1884 in Leswalt. I know both James & Susanna were born in Ireland but have no idea where. So if anyone knows anything or are related I love to know :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks to all the Wiglist who have given me advice about my travel to Scotland and how to get my great grandparents marriage certificate. I was very successful. Regards Sandra

>From the Wigtown Free Press 21/2/1884 MILLIGAN/BARTER(BARTON), Maggie - D7/2/1884 - At Tuticerin, Madras Presidency, on the 7th inst., Maggie, the dealy loved wife of James Milligan, and second daughter of the late Christopher Jolliffe Barter, (Barton). CAMPBELL, W.W. - D23/1/1884 - At Philiadelphia, U.S.A., on the 23d ult., W. W. Campbell, late of Montreal.

>From the Wigtownshire Free Press 31/1/1884 DEATHS HANNAY, Charles - (8)/12/1883 - At Maldon, Victoria, on the (8)th ult., Charles Hannay, (formerly from Barwhirran, Wigtownshire) aged 78 years - Friends will please accept of this the only intimation. Victorian Pioneer Index 1836-1888 HANNAY, Charles Death Father: Thomas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret MCCLELLAND Age: 78 Death Place: MALDON Year: 1883 Reg Number: 11586 >>M'QUEEN, James - D18/11/1883 - At the residence of (Marion) George, Timmering, Australia, on the 18th November, James M'Queen, late of Garden, Wigtownshire, aged 84 years and 8 months. Victorian Pioneer Index 1836-1888 MCQUEEN, James Death Father: Alexr Age: 84 Death Place: ROCHESTER Year: 1883 Reg Number: 12405 Regards Jenny

>From Wigtown Free Press 9//1883 DEATHS >>M'MASTER, William - D13/7/1883 - At Kimberley, South Africa, on the 13th ult., Wm. M'Master, son of John M'Master, Culhorn Mains, Stranraer, aged 26 years. http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?200705311544260866F4C9 Database: Cape Town Archives Repository DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/198 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 7039 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MCMASTER, WILLIAM. DEATH NOTICE. STARTING 18830000 ENDING 18830000 DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOK TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 1/2/454 SYSTEM 04 REFERENCE 1659 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MCMASTER, WILLIAM. DECEASED ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 18830000 ENDING 18830000 Northern Cape Provincial Archives Service The Provincial Archivist Postal address: Private Bag X5004, KIMBERLEY 8300 Street address: 6th Floor Dutoitspan Building, Dutoitspan Road, KIMBERLEY Tel: (053) 807 4704 Cell: 082 873 5283 (Ms Andrea Luxton) Fax: (053) 833 4353 and (053) 807 4784 E-mail: apluxton@ds.ncape.gov.za Western Cape Provincial Archives and Records Service The Head Postal address: Private Bag X9025, CAPE TOWN 8000 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 E-mail: enquirieswcape@dac.gov.za (for General Correspondence) rmwcape@dac.gov.za (for Records Management enquiries) Jenny

For Ron Claucherty Since you mentioned my name I did reply to you off line as is always the case when someone lists a name I have researched. But I have not had a reply yet from you. Maybe you will see this in stead of the offline mail. The Claucharty/Claucherty family I researched originated in Kirkcudbright and spread around to Wigtownshire and beyond. Most were seafarers. Regards Anton

At 02:20 PM 5/30/2007, Diana Henry wrote: > From the Wigtownshire Free Press >31/1/1884 > >DEATHS >HANNAY, Charles - (8)/12/1883 - At Maldon, Victoria, on the (8)th >ult., Charles Hannay, (formerly from Barwhirran, Wigtownshire) aged >78 years - Friends will please accept of this the only intimation. >... I believe this is Charles' family: Clachan of Penninghame Old Kirkyard Memorial Inscriptions, p. 11 MI 52 "Table Stone - red sandstone. Erected to the memory of Thomas HANNAY late in Grange of Cree who died 13th Septr 1816 aged 40 years Also Margaret McCLELLAND spouse of Thomas HANNAY who died 11th March 1828 aged 47 years Also their infant son George HANNAY who died 23rd Septr 1816 aged 3 months Robert who died 16th Feby 1820 aged 10 years John who died 25th March 1824 aged 16 years Margaret who died 21st Jany 1829 aged 11 years Also Eliza HANNAY their granddaughter who died 15th June 1831 aged 2 months Also Eliza BEATH who died 22nd Jany 1835 aged 22 years. Mother of the said Eliza HANNAY and spouse of Charles HANNAY in Barwhirran, their son. Also Thomas HANNAY eldest son of the above Thomas HANNAY former farmer in Baldoon Mains afterwards in Garthland, Stoneykirk where he died 8th March 1875 aged 74 years." MI 53 is probably related. It was erected by John HANNAH in Mains of Penninghame in memory of...his spouse Mary DICKSON and several children. It includes "Also Patrick HANNAH late in Barwhirran who died 28th Sept 1834 aged 91 years." Perhaps Patrick was living with Charles when he died? 'Tis a long story which I will spare you, but some time ago, I determined that my gggg-uncle Thomas Hannay McCULLOCH was probably named for Charles HANNAY's father. Having failed to find a familial connection, I've assumed that the HANNAYs and my McCULLOCHs were merely close friends -- both families were at Grange of Cree in Penninghame. Now I learn that Charles died at Maldon -- interesting because that is where one Alexander McCULLOCH died in 1867. (We recently discussed Alexander's brothers William and James: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE/2007-05/1178747358.) Alexander's aunt, Helen McCULLOCH, married a LAIRD whose family was at Barwhirran in 1841 and 1851. (One family member was named Peter Hannay LAIRD.) Moreover, Helen's sister married a McDOWALL, whose family was at Barwhirran till about 1809. There was also a brother who was the son-in-law of a Patrick HANNAY (too young to be the one in MI 53, so no known connection to Charles HANNAY's family at this time). MI 54 is a McCULLOCH stone -- Alexander's parents, some siblings, and Alexander himself "who died at Madden [sic], Australia...." MIs 57 and 60 are related McCULLOCH stones. MI 55 is another HANNAY stone. MI 64 in Newton Stewart's Penninghame Old Kirkyard is a GIFFORD/HANNAY stone that is related to the Patrick HANNAY in MI 53 and connected to my McCULLOCHs as well. So...it appears that Charles HANNAY had ties to both my McCULLOCHs and to Alexander McCULLOCH's family. Can anyone tell me more about Charles' family, particularly how they connect, if at all, to the LAIRDs and McCULLOCHs? Mary Richardson

>From the Wigtownshire Free Press 31/1/1884 DEATHS HANNAY, Charles - (8)/12/1883 - At Maldon, Victoria, on the (8)th ult., Charles Hannay, (formerly from Barwhirran, Wigtownshire) aged 78 years - Friends will please accept of this the only intimation. MONTGOMERY, Wm. Jnr - D(2)/12/1883 - At Natie, Mass, U.S. A., on the (2)nd December, Wm. Montgomery, Junr., late of Castle-Douglas, aged 18 years. M'QUEEN, James - D18/11/1883 - At the residence of (Marion) George, Timmering, Australia, on the 18th November, James M'Queen, late of Garden, Wigtownshire, aged 84 years and 8 months.

>From Wigtown Free Press 9/8/1883 DEATHS BLACK, James - D18/5/`883 - At Greymouth, New Zealand, on the 18th May, James Black, of the Grey River "Argus" newspaper office, third son of the late John Black, Esq., banker, Wigtown aged 60 years. M'MASTER, William - D13/7/1883 - At Kimberley, South Africa, on the 13th ult., Wm. M'Master, son of John M'Master, Culhorn Mains, Stranraer, aged 26 years.

Hello there Could it possibly be JEANNE BOHEC ? There is several sites on Jeanne on the web but they all seem to be in French, from what i can gather she went on to become a mathematics professor and published a book of memoirs 'Plastiquese with a bicycle'. She is also remembered in the following book 'Sisters in the Resistance' by Margaret Collins Weitz. Hope this helps Deborah Robertson (Glasgow) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Kristy" <hannah@teleport.com> To: "Wigtownshire Scotland" <Sct-Wigtownshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WIG LIST] I friend has requested help on where/how to research!!!!! Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:00:18 -0500 This is probably not the best place to send this...but you are my only contact in Scotland at this time. Would any of you have knowledge about...or ideas on where we could begin...the locating this interesting figure from history? My friend Ann, her neighbor, and I will all appreciate any thoughts you might have on the "plan of attack" on this. Kristy in Illinois and Ann in Oregon (where the neighbors are) > > Hi, We have a neighbor that is planning a trip to Scotland. He is hoping > to find someone from his past. He has an article from the Glasgow 1947 > newspaper describing the visit of a Madame Jeanne DuFour to their home. > What he does not have is her maiden name. Following is most of the > article. He would really like to find this 84 year old woman, whom his > family had sheltered during the war. > > 'They were welcoming to Glasgow 24 year old Jeanne Dufour, heroine of the > French resistance movement, and the record holder of French Marquis > medals. > > The Clark's entertained both Jeanne and her husband of two months, Pierre > Dufour in their home. She was there to have her book of the Resistance > translated into English and to listen to offers from publishers. > > Two years ago she was the mademoiselle from Brest, Maquis leader of 3000 > Breton Maquis, hunted by the Germans, with a price on her head, raiding > villages,shooting German officers and stealing their revolvers. > > In two years she won five medals--they included one for bravery in the > field when she pulled a dying French soldier to safety under Nazi fire, > The Croix de Guerre and a medal for being wounded in action." > > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to trace this woman? > Thanks, > Ann > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/

>From Wigtown Free Press 14/6/1883 MARRIAGES ROBERTSON, James - M18/1/1883 - At Fiji Island, New Zealand, on the 18th January, James Robertson, oldest son of T.A. Robertson, late of Glenside, Kirkcolm, to Maude Annie Williams, of that place. WRIGHT, Sinclair - M21/2/1883 - At the Residence of the Bride's parents, Barnagoe, Balclutha, New Zealand, on the 21st February, Sinclair Wright, farmer, Inch, Clutha, to Margaret Robertson, youngest daughter of T.A. Robertson, late of Glenside, Kirkcolm. 21/6/1883 MARRIAGES JOSEPH, Robert - M26/5/1883 - At San Antonio, Texas, on the 26th ult., by the Rev. W. Howell Buchanan, Robert Joseph, son of John Joseph, Palnure, to Annie, youngest daughter of Thomas Alcock, Alfreton, Derbyshire, England. DEATHS WILSON, Gordon - D13/5/1883 - At Big Spring, Wyoming, U.S.A., on the 13th ult., the result of a gun accident Gordon Wilson (Tottie), youngest son of the late James Wilson, Craighill, Balmaclellan, aged 22 years. STEWART, Marget - D1/6/1883 - At 33 Commerce Street, New York City, on the 1st inst., Marget Stewart, aged 80 years.