Fellow Listers, How remiss of me not to share my source of information on Scottish words. Here it is: http://www.dsl.ac.uk/index.html This is a wonderful site to peruse as it even covers the origins of the Scots language in detail.if you click into "A History of Scots to 1700" or indeed any of the other side "headings". Beware as this site can be very time consuming and infectious. Make sure when looking for specific words to "Search" in "Full Entry" in "All DSL Texts" at the top of the page. Sam Heron, Brisbane 6.03 am and 23.2 °C already

>From the Dictionary of the Scots Language: LALDIE , n. Also laldy and reduplic. form laldy-daldy. A thrashing, punishment, a drubbing, gen. in phrs. to get or gie laldie (m. and s.Sc. 1960), also fig. of any vigorous or energetic action. [Orig. uncertain. Phs. a child's word, mainly imit. But cf. Yks. dial. lalldabber, a blow, maybe connected with O.E. læl, a whip, weal, bruise.] Sam Heron, Brisbane PS Is this a temporary Australian forum?? ` ` ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ella Ross" <[email protected]> To: "Wigtown List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] laldy > Hi > "Gi'ein' it laldy" as they said in Glasgow before I left for Australia > nearly 50 years ago. > > I think it can be interpreted as "giving it your all". > > Be interested to hear other meanings. > Ella Ross, Sydney > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bishop David Murray" <[email protected]> > To: "Wigtown List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:05 PM > Subject: [WIG LIST] laldy > > >> Greetings to all Wigtownshire language specialists, >> I was doing a wee bit of piping at a church fete today and a Scot (ex >> Glasgow region) who heard me reported to his (Scottish) wife when he got >> home, "David is playing his pipes down at the church fete and he's doing >> it laldy (or laldie)". >> >> Is this expression still around in Scotland? >> >> ... David Murray, Perth, Western Australia

Hi "Gi'ein' it laldy" as they said in Glasgow before I left for Australia nearly 50 years ago. I think it can be interpreted as "giving it your all". Be interested to hear other meanings. Ella Ross, Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bishop David Murray" <[email protected]> To: "Wigtown List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:05 PM Subject: [WIG LIST] laldy > Greetings to all Wigtownshire language specialists, > I was doing a wee bit of piping at a church fete today and a Scot (ex > Glasgow region) who heard me reported to his (Scottish) wife when he got > home, "David is playing his pipes down at the church fete and he's doing > it laldy (or laldie)". > > Is this expression still around in Scotland? > > ... David Murray, Perth, Western Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings to all Wigtownshire language specialists, I was doing a wee bit of piping at a church fete today and a Scot (ex Glasgow region) who heard me reported to his (Scottish) wife when he got home, "David is playing his pipes down at the church fete and he's doing it laldy (or laldie)". Is this expression still around in Scotland? ... David Murray, Perth, Western Australia

Certainly round about Dumfries although we are more likely to say "giving it Laldy" Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Need help with your Scottish Family History research? Let Imchad Ancestry assist you. Please look at our website: www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bishop David Murray Sent: 13 November 2010 11:05 To: Wigtown List Subject: [WIG LIST] laldy Greetings to all Wigtownshire language specialists, I was doing a wee bit of piping at a church fete today and a Scot (ex Glasgow region) who heard me reported to his (Scottish) wife when he got home, "David is playing his pipes down at the church fete and he's doing it laldy (or laldie)". Is this expression still around in Scotland? ... David Murray, Perth, Western Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As Ella, my fellow Glaswegian (or Weegie) noted, we say he was "gie'in' it laldy." This could be putting one's full effort into it, or if one was mad at someone, then one would give that person a good telling off, with no misunderstanding that one was very much annoyed. There is no definition for laldy in the Twentieth Century Chambers Dictionary, printed in Edinburgh, I have; however, in the "cheap-o" Concise Scots Dictionary, the meaning is given as punishment, beating. There is no etymology for the word, or usage for another favourite word across the pond: eejit, idgit, for idiot, used especially in Scotland and Ireland, and again, not to be found in a "regular" dictionary. Nowhere would one find these words in basic BDM or census docs., of course, but perhaps in someone's colourful family tree narrative. My aunt used to refer to one of her aunts as a bad midden. I have her thus defined in my family tree notes! Again, a midden was the big receptacle for trash and ashes from the fireplaces found in the back courts of tenements, like a dumpster or tip. The connotation of calling a woman a midden or bad midden did not mean that she was dirty or slovenly, however, but that she was just a yappy, royal pain in the bahoochey, negative, interfering person...a pure midden! Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian A McClumpha" <[email protected]> To: "'Bishop David Murray'" <[email protected]>; "'Wigtown List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] laldy > Certainly round about Dumfries although we are more likely to say "giving > it > Laldy" > > Best wishes > > Ian A McClumpha > > Need help with your Scottish Family History research? Let Imchad Ancestry > assist you. Please look at our website: www.imchad.freeola.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bishop David > Murray > Sent: 13 November 2010 11:05 > To: Wigtown List > Subject: [WIG LIST] laldy > > Greetings to all Wigtownshire language specialists, > I was doing a wee bit of piping at a church fete today and a Scot (ex > Glasgow region) who heard me reported to his (Scottish) wife when he got > home, "David is playing his pipes down at the church fete and he's doing > it > laldy (or laldie)". > > Is this expression still around in Scotland? > > ... David Murray, Perth, Western Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello "List Folk" I wonder if anyone has links to this Thomson family of Wigtown? John Thomson married Agnes McTaggart, their children included: Janet b. 1783 Alexander & John b. 1786 Jean b. 1788 Agnes b. 1790 Maria b. 1792 Robert b. 1794 Barbara b. 1795 Sarah b. 1798 Regards, Patti

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnneBurton23 Surnames: McCreadie, McCrae, Wilson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/1981.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was just scrolling through the Wigtownshire message board and saw your inquiry regarding William McCreadie. I don't have much information on him but have some on one of his children. Daughter Hannah (b 27 Feb 1820, Glenluce) married John McCrae (b. 26 Dec 1823, Kirkcowan). They had 4 children, including a son, John Milligan McCrae (b 18 Jan 1851, Glenluce). He, in turn, married Thomina Wilson (b. 25 Jan 1865, New Luce)on 5 Feb 1887 at Vicarhill, New Luce. Thomina was the sister of my grandfather, James Moffat Wilson--he married an Agnes McCreadie in 1905 in Glenluce. John and "Mina" had 8 children, one of whom was Hannah (b. June 1890 in Bargrennan. She immigrated 15 July 1911. She sailed aboard the Hesperian from Glasgow to Quebec city. From there she was going to her brother's farm in Calgary, Alberta,she was a shop assistant but her intended occupation was now going to be a housekeeper. The brother must have been John as the other two would have been too young. While working there she must have met her future husband, Barney Crockett. He was born in Ontario. I vagly remember my grandparents speaking about Barney and "Ciss" and think they were living in Medicine Hat Alberta in the early 1950's. While this does't give you any more information on William McCreadie, it does give a little insight on some other family members. Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Folks, I am trying to make a connection between my 3Ggrandfather, John DOUGLASS (b abt 1809, probably Ayrshire, m Margaret LOWRIE 1839, to Canada abt 1850) and possible siblings in Wigtownshire. I believe his parents were John DOUGLASS (b 1767 Ayrshire, d 1839 Colmonell, Ayrshire) and Jannet MCMICHAEL (b 1782 New Cumnock, d 1858 Colmonell, Ayrshire). Siblings with Wigtownshire connections would have been: Jane DOUGLAS b 1818 Ayr., m Peter MCMILLAN, d 1901 Kirkholm. Children were Peter (1851), John (1852), Robert (1854), Janet (1855), David (1856), Elizabeth (1860), and Jane (1862). William DOUGLAS b 1820 Dalrymple, Ayr., m 1849 Elizabeth MCWHIRTER, d 1888 Pinminnock Farm, Portpatrick. Children were John (1850-1853), Grace (1851-1853), Jannet (1853), William (1855-1934), Elizabeth (1857), Margaret (1859), Jane (1861-1863), Jane (1863). Robert DOUGLAS b 1811 Dalrymple, Ayr., m 1836 Elizabeth ALEXANDER, d 1876 Rosemount Farm, Maxwellton, Kirkcudbright. Children were John (1838-1842), Elizabeth Annie (1846-1923), and Janet (1863-1910). Elizabeth Annie DOUGLAS married Robert BARBOUR in 1864. She died in Troqueer. Their children, all born in Troqeer, were Robert (1865), Douglas (1866), Elizabeth (1867), James (1869), William (1872-1875), and Hastings (1880). Thus far, I have no proof that my John DOUGLASS was part of this family, but names he gave to his children support this connection. Can anyone help me build a stronger bridge? Thanks! Larry in the US

Hiya listers, I am trying to connect two McClure lines at present and am far enough back in time that records and details are hard to come by unless in the area it seemsJ Line 1. James McClure born abt 1796 in Penninghame Parish, Wigtownshire, Scotland. Or possibly Whithorn? Married to Elizabeth? Similar age and from in parish also. 4 sons known, James, John, William and Samuel abt 1835, Penninghame.. Line 2 John McClure and Sarah McClurg with their son James born in 1778 at Minnigaff Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland. If anyone is researching these lines that connect to my Bown, Conchie, and Pat(t)erson lines in the area I would love to hear from you and compare notes.. Cheers All Jim Patterson

I know nothing about boats and didn't think I would ever find them particularly interesting but I have just discovered a great (free!) site about local Dumfries-shire boats. www.dgcommunity.net/historicalindexes/shipping (I sometimes find it a bit reluctant to connect so search through Dumfries and Galloway community and then, in the search box put 'historical indexes'.) It briefly describes the boats that have been registered locally, their names, history, description, master(s) and owners, noting the number of shares each has. I have noticed that most boats have a total of 64 shares. Does anyone know why 64? It is remarkable what a diverse background the owners are from: farmers, gentlemen, widows, merchants, weavers ... It's quite interesting to search under the name of a local family member: you never know who might turn up as an owner. This Dumfries and Galloway site also provides free access to other really interesting areas including the 1851 census (under historical indexes). Jose

I think you'll find this URL a bit more user friendly: http://www.dgcommunity.net/historicalindexes/default.aspx -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jose Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 6:52 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [WIG LIST] shipping historical index I know nothing about boats and didn't think I would ever find them particularly interesting but I have just discovered a great (free!) site about local Dumfries-shire boats. www.dgcommunity.net/historicalindexes/shipping (I sometimes find it a bit reluctant to connect so search through Dumfries and Galloway community and then, in the search box put 'historical indexes'.) It briefly describes the boats that have been registered locally, their names, history, description, master(s) and owners, noting the number of shares each has. I have noticed that most boats have a total of 64 shares. Does anyone know why 64? It is remarkable what a diverse background the owners are from: farmers, gentlemen, widows, merchants, weavers ... It's quite interesting to search under the name of a local family member: you never know who might turn up as an owner. This Dumfries and Galloway site also provides free access to other really interesting areas including the 1851 census (under historical indexes). Jose ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/ Joan, if go to the above url and you will find all the publications you want. Here is no 137 in Stoneykirk and Kirkmadrine Memorial Inscription Booklet. "A memorial of Thos LOGAN tenant in Clay Croft who died March 12th 1779 aged 61 years.  His spouse Grace McKIE who died Feb 5th 1818 aged 81 years.  And their grandchildren (issue of Thomas LOGAN & Elizabeth MURRAY) Clauchanmore).  thomas LOGAN who died July 11th 1801 ae 19 months.  John died July 6th 1829 27 years.  Agnes died Octr 11th 1803 16 do.  Mifta senus ac juvenuin densantur funera.  The feeble wrapth th'athletic in his shroud and weeping fathers build their childrens tomb. Also his sons Samuel LOGAN died Decr 1857.  Thomas LOGAN died 14th Apr 1864 aged 95.  Elizabeth MURRAY spouse of Thomas LOGAN died March 1849.  Their daughters Margaret died 30th April 1858.  Jane LOGAN died 29th Novr 1869.  Elizabeth LOGAN died 22nd Sepr 1876.  Reader.  Every hour brings3000 of our race to their long home. Their son Samuel COWAN died 29th Dec 1877 aged 72.  His sons John LOGAN died 12th March 1856 aged 18.  Thomas LOGAN died 14th June 1859 aged 12." I have the photo if you would like me to send. Diana Henry ________________________________ From: Joan Whitney <[email protected]> To: wigtownshire <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 6:21:45 AM Subject: [WIG LIST] Thomas Logan and Grisal McKie Hoping someone can help.  I have just found that my Margaret LOGAN married to John SPENCE m. 28 April 1785, Stoneykirk, was the daughter of Thomas LOGAN and Grisal MCKIE.  Thomas and Grisal were married 20 Jan 1766 in Stoneykirk.  Thomas died Nov 1778 and is buried in Stoneykirk, Wigtonshire, Scotland.  They had three children;  Margaret b 14 Jan 1766, Thomas b 13 June 1769, Clay Croft, Stoneykirk,, and Samuel 24 May 1772, Clay Croft.  Does anyone know anything about this family?  Did Grisal remarry?  Is there any tombstone or monument in Stoneykirk cemetery?  How does one go about getting copies of the booklets of memorial inscriptions for the different Parishes?  Thanks in advance for any help or information.  Joan Whitney  Washington State coast, USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hoping someone can help. I have just found that my Margaret LOGAN married to John SPENCE m. 28 April 1785, Stoneykirk, was the daughter of Thomas LOGAN and Grisal MCKIE. Thomas and Grisal were married 20 Jan 1766 in Stoneykirk. Thomas died Nov 1778 and is buried in Stoneykirk, Wigtonshire, Scotland. They had three children; Margaret b 14 Jan 1766, Thomas b 13 June 1769, Clay Croft, Stoneykirk,, and Samuel 24 May 1772, Clay Croft. Does anyone know anything about this family? Did Grisal remarry? Is there any tombstone or monument in Stoneykirk cemetery? How does one go about getting copies of the booklets of memorial inscriptions for the different Parishes? Thanks in advance for any help or information. Joan Whitney Washington State coast, USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nickxvan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/194.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Yes please - my email address is [email protected] Illona may well do, but I see her very occassionally and have not enquired about it with her, which I will do when we next meet. I received some family tree information from her brother Barry Blair - I am wondering whether I have a complete history. Was your father Rober Parker? Please send me your email address and I will invite you as a member onto my family tree site, and perhaps you would be interested in taking a look to make sure I have your part of it correct, too? Many thanks Kind Regards Nick Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theta100 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2090.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Have you looked at BMDs on either Scotlands People or LDS IGI as there seem to be quite a few Thomas/Alexander Wallace pre 1855 in the Parishes you mention. The 1841 census shows more than 250 Wallaces in Wigtownshire. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bonniebeap Surnames: Wallace/possibly Ogilvie & Nielson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2090/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Help! Looking for any info on any Wallace's (especially a Thomas a/or Alexander) in the 1700-1850's-Inch/New Luce/Old Luce/Newton-Stewart area of Wigtownshire. Has anyone come across Wallace's in this area? Any help much appreciated-I have hit a brick wall with this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lincuan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/194.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the grandadughter of Jeannie's sister Jessie. I can give you a fairly complete family tree should you wish. I thought Ilona had it! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shn98110 Surnames: JORIE, RYAN, SULLIVAN, KELLY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.wig.general/2089/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for Bridget Jorie, wife of Patrick Ryan, mother of Ellen Ryan. The following marriage announcement was posted for the marriage on 13 Apr 1875. Census records for Ellen claim her parents were born in Ireland. Newspaper clipping: John Sullivan, 27, farmer, Lowe, same, s/o Patrick Sullivan & Mary Kelly married Ellen Ryan, 22, Lowe, Ottawa Co., Ottawa, d/o Patrick Ryan & Bridget Jorie, April 13, 1875. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sorry for the delay listers I have tried several times to thank each and every one who answered but it kept returning. I shall keep trying . It seems my gramps liked the surface man job better than his dads' as a dry stone mason. Surface man seems to fix the roads. Again thanks Heather Straight