Hello, Christine Thanks for your comments on my reasoning and the suggestion that we identify the source of our information whenever we post details to the list. I agree it's a matter of personal choice, and we're fortunate that so many list members choose to name their sources when they share their notes and extracts from census, parish records, www.familysearch.org and so on. It's a big help to those of us who are learning our way around the resources available for Sutherlandshire. Sometimes I forget that you're wearing two hats when you post to the list. I sincerely hope you didn't think I was asking the list owner to lay down the law. Far from it! With thanks and best wishes, Frances In response to SCT-SUTHERLAND-D Digest, Volume 01 : Issue 77: > >X-Message: #8 >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:46:17 +0100 >From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: SCT-SUT - Definition of "SCR"/research sources > >Hello Frances >As always what you put forward is a very good idea. However, I think this >has to be a personal choice thing. We do not want to frighten folks away. >Most people will have their sources recorded and if they do not come up on >the list a quick email will normally bring them although there are a few >people who prefer not to give source info or specific fact. We must respect >those wishes also. For myself all my work has source codes on it. >One of the most noticeable differences today from when I first started out >is certificates! I own loads and loads! Used to be the only way to be sure >until I learned that there are children in this world who cannot remember >their own Mum's maiden name when they go to register her death!! You can't >win. > >I rather like your idea of discussing new sources. This could be most >useful to all. We have all learned so much from this list already. The >Sutherland Estates book - brilliant. >Many people also thought that the 1841 census was the first in Britain - we >now know some of the 1811 survived. There was a census every ten years so >what became of the 1821 and 31? The Hearth Tax lists of 1691 survived in >many places also. Those of you with either my book on Murray Families or my >CD will see frequent reference to the 1745 lists. These lists were drawn up >in each parish and showed all the able bodied men born between 1680 and >1729. Well worth searching out. The Golspie list is included in the >Golspie Story; The lists for Farr are in Population Lists of Strathnaver, >Strathy & Strath Halladale, 1667 -1811, by Malcolm Bangor-Jones. >Christine > >-----Original Message----- >From: Frances Bishop [mailto:bishad@direct.ca] >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:57 PM >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: SCT-SUT - Definition of "SCR"/research sources > >Hi Christine, > >Thanks for explaining that "SCR" is short for "Scottish Church Records". >It's always a bonus to know which source is being quoted when a kind soul >such as yourself posts family details to the list. > >We rely so heavily on the kindness of strangers. It would be great if >everyone who shares information would tell us where they found the details >they're quoting - and we did the same in return. That way, everyone would >learn more about which sources are actually available. > >For instance, when baptismal or marriage information is posted to the list, >a source note such as "OPR" or "old parish/parochial records" and the LDS >film number, if applicable, could be added. I'm willing to get into the >habit, when/if I am fortunate enough to have news of this kind to >contribute <grin>. > >Most members of this list already indicate information that was taken from >readily accessible sources such as the IGI, Scots Origins, the Family >History Library Catalogue at www.familysearch.org and so on - for which I >thank them! The Internet is a blessing, but sooner or later most of us must >resort to doing our own research (those endless "hours in research rooms" >that you mentioned <grin>). > >Sometimes we share information of unknown origins -- usually because we >forgot to record the source when we were making our notes. To increase its >value to fellow researchers, we could attach the words: "Source unknown". > >"Family Story" and "Personal Correspondence" would cover personal sources, >which are inaccessible to fellow researchers (generally speaking). > >"Speculation" or a similar warning should be used for queries in which >rough dates are given. Mind you, it's only a problem if someone else >chooses to take the dates at face value, enter those dates into a database, >then distribute them as fact. (Imagine the brick walls in store for the >unwary!) > >Well, enough of my 'bright ideas' -- and a very long post. > >With best wishes to all, Frances > >- -------------------------------------------------------------------- >Original message (FROM SCT-SUTHERLAND-D Digest: Volume 01 : Issue 74) > >>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:45:21 +0100 >>From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: RE: SUT - RE: Sutherland, MacKay, Matheson - "SCR" >> >>SCR = Scottish Church Records >>These were what the LDS issued in the days before the IGI became >>international. These were in the days when we had to sit for hours and >>hours in research rooms hunting! Great days. > >Christine > >

Hello Frances Forget my hats and keep on with your wonderful ideas. This list is doing great and does not require managing. We will prove that soon as I will be away from my computer a lot during the next few weeks. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Frances Bishop [mailto:bishad@direct.ca] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:33 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: SCT-SUT Definition of "SCR"/research sources Hello, Christine Thanks for your comments on my reasoning and the suggestion that we identify the source of our information whenever we post details to the list. I agree it's a matter of personal choice, and we're fortunate that so many list members choose to name their sources when they share their notes and extracts from census, parish records, www.familysearch.org and so on. It's a big help to those of us who are learning our way around the resources available for Sutherlandshire. Sometimes I forget that you're wearing two hats when you post to the list. I sincerely hope you didn't think I was asking the list owner to lay down the law. Far from it! With thanks and best wishes, Frances In response to SCT-SUTHERLAND-D Digest, Volume 01 : Issue 77: > >X-Message: #8 >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:46:17 +0100 >From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: SCT-SUT - Definition of "SCR"/research sources > >Hello Frances >As always what you put forward is a very good idea. However, I think this >has to be a personal choice thing. We do not want to frighten folks away. >Most people will have their sources recorded and if they do not come up on >the list a quick email will normally bring them although there are a few >people who prefer not to give source info or specific fact. We must respect >those wishes also. For myself all my work has source codes on it. >One of the most noticeable differences today from when I first started out >is certificates! I own loads and loads! Used to be the only way to be sure >until I learned that there are children in this world who cannot remember >their own Mum's maiden name when they go to register her death!! You can't >win. > >I rather like your idea of discussing new sources. This could be most >useful to all. We have all learned so much from this list already. The >Sutherland Estates book - brilliant. >Many people also thought that the 1841 census was the first in Britain - we >now know some of the 1811 survived. There was a census every ten years so >what became of the 1821 and 31? The Hearth Tax lists of 1691 survived in >many places also. Those of you with either my book on Murray Families or my >CD will see frequent reference to the 1745 lists. These lists were drawn up >in each parish and showed all the able bodied men born between 1680 and >1729. Well worth searching out. The Golspie list is included in the >Golspie Story; The lists for Farr are in Population Lists of Strathnaver, >Strathy & Strath Halladale, 1667 -1811, by Malcolm Bangor-Jones. >Christine > >-----Original Message----- >From: Frances Bishop [mailto:bishad@direct.ca] >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:57 PM >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: SCT-SUT - Definition of "SCR"/research sources > >Hi Christine, > >Thanks for explaining that "SCR" is short for "Scottish Church Records". >It's always a bonus to know which source is being quoted when a kind soul >such as yourself posts family details to the list. > >We rely so heavily on the kindness of strangers. It would be great if >everyone who shares information would tell us where they found the details >they're quoting - and we did the same in return. That way, everyone would >learn more about which sources are actually available. > >For instance, when baptismal or marriage information is posted to the list, >a source note such as "OPR" or "old parish/parochial records" and the LDS >film number, if applicable, could be added. I'm willing to get into the >habit, when/if I am fortunate enough to have news of this kind to >contribute <grin>. > >Most members of this list already indicate information that was taken from >readily accessible sources such as the IGI, Scots Origins, the Family >History Library Catalogue at www.familysearch.org and so on - for which I >thank them! The Internet is a blessing, but sooner or later most of us must >resort to doing our own research (those endless "hours in research rooms" >that you mentioned <grin>). > >Sometimes we share information of unknown origins -- usually because we >forgot to record the source when we were making our notes. To increase its >value to fellow researchers, we could attach the words: "Source unknown". > >"Family Story" and "Personal Correspondence" would cover personal sources, >which are inaccessible to fellow researchers (generally speaking). > >"Speculation" or a similar warning should be used for queries in which >rough dates are given. Mind you, it's only a problem if someone else >chooses to take the dates at face value, enter those dates into a database, >then distribute them as fact. (Imagine the brick walls in store for the >unwary!) > >Well, enough of my 'bright ideas' -- and a very long post. > >With best wishes to all, Frances > >- -------------------------------------------------------------------- >Original message (FROM SCT-SUTHERLAND-D Digest: Volume 01 : Issue 74) > >>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:45:21 +0100 >>From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: RE: SUT - RE: Sutherland, MacKay, Matheson - "SCR" >> >>SCR = Scottish Church Records >>These were what the LDS issued in the days before the IGI became >>international. These were in the days when we had to sit for hours and >>hours in research rooms hunting! Great days. > >Christine > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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