***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. If memory serves me right, they lived at Lothbeg. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era. Gordon and horse actually tumbled off Brora Bridge. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Cathy MacKenzie [mailto:c.mackenzie@attcanada.net] Sent: 01 April 2001 20:39 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUT - CLUNES ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Lyndall: Here's some Cluness info that I found in some writings of Rev. A.M. Sinclair which may have been printed in the Eastern Chronicle, New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, Canada(don't have any dates). Not sure if any of these are connected to yours or not but thought I would post them anyhow. "The first Cluness lived at Cracaig, in Loth, came from Ross-shire. He was factor to the Earl of Sutherland. His son, who succeeded him as factor, had two sons, Gordon and John. Gordon entered the army, and rose to the rank of colonel. He had three sons, Archibald, William and Gordon. Archibald died in the West Indies. William was major in the army. He was a tall, stout and handsome man. He retired from the army at quite an early age. He resided at Cracaif, where he died in 1829. Gordon, youngest son of Colonel Cluness, was a captain in the army. He fell from his horse at Bonar Bridge and was drowned." Another: "I was told that Angus McKay, Donald McKay, of the Woodhouse, Donald Bruce, Donald Douglas, John McLeod, Alexander Grant, and George, son of Major William Cluness, came to Pictou on the same ship. Donald Bruce came by the ship Harmony in 1822. This information I have from Hector H. Bruce - a man who has taken more interest than any one else in the history of Barney's River and to whom I feel very grateful for his efforts in collecting historical facts. His letters in the Eastern Chronicle in 1886 were exceedingly interesting." Cathy MacKenzie Halifax, NS VIEW MY GENEALOGY WEBSITE: http://members.tripod.com/camack48 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndall" <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > As there are many more people on this list now, I thought I'd ask if again > if anyone is seeking CLUNES from Loth or Helmsdale; particularly Gordon > CLUNES. ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!
Many, many thanks to all you wonderful people who have responded to my query about my CLUNES family. I have been chasing them for years and have even engaged a couple of researchers in the past with very little gained. However, if I can find the evidence that the Captain Gordon CLUNES who died at Bronar Bridge is MY Captain, I'll be off and running!!! It looks like this man is my 3xGGrandfather. Some time back I was sent a photocopy of a hand written pedigree of the CLUNES family which was prepared by someone named Alistair Gordon, however, I've never seen any link between this pedigree and the very little data I have for my family. The chart is in the tiniest handwriting (& my eyes are growing dim) BUT, it has a Gordon CLUNES who died at Bronar Bridge on 27 July 1811. Their are no descendants recorded for this man, but if he's mine, then I suppose it's because his son was illegitimate. According to the chart, Gordon CLUNES, born 1736/7, a Lt. Col who died Crakaig 17 March 1814, and his wife, Anne GORDON, daughter of John GORDON of Carroll had the following children: John, Lt 1st Ft. died West Indies Archibald, died West Indies William (only surviving son by 1811), 22 years in Army including 20 years in 50 Ft.; offers to sell commission in 1811, nearest relation of late Carroll; Capt. 93rd Ft.; Maj. Sutherland Fencibles 1794; Dornoch councillor 1812-14; died 24 November 1830. Son George born 8 June 1819; daughter Ann born 1819 *Gordon, died 27 July 1811 Brora Bridge; Dornoch Councillor 1808-1811; Capt. 93 Ft; issue 1 daughter 2 other sons, dead by 1811 (?incl Hector d. 1795) Margaret, marr. J.J. ??? a surgeon; a child of hers succeeds to Crakaig on death of Maj. William; son William killed Peninsula War; son Gordon 2 more daughters Elizabeth, died 1837 Anne, born 24 Feb. 1787, died 11 Nov. 1881; married by 1808 Joseph GORDON of Carroll These people have been traced back to an Archibald CLUNACE from Cromarty in 1338. If they are mine, I'll have to start looking at GORDONs! And Malcolm, on this tree there is an Alexander CLUNES of Nielston who was a collector of cess (?) for Cromarty in 1678, his son John went to Sutherland where he was the Earl's factor . Much of this data seems to have been sourced from something/someone called Sage. Thanks a lot everyone - I now am filled with renewed hope. Lyndall Canberra, Oz. -------------------------------------------- The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. If memory serves me right, they lived at Lothbeg. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era. Gordon and horse actually tumbled off Brora Bridge. Malcolm Bangor-Jones *******************************************************************
Hello Lyndall As the pedigree you talk about was prepared by Alistair Gordon and as you say the writing is tiny I think you have a copy of the Sir Robert Gordon tree. Alistair sent me a copy of this a few years ago and it is absolutely fascinating. I also think you have found your 3 x great grandfather. You have to see the Kirk Session records somehow to be certain or why not write to Alistair who lives in London. He is quite an authority on this area. If you do not have his mailing address write to me privately. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Lyndall [mailto:lyfrah@goldweb.com.au] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:24 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUT - CLUNES Many, many thanks to all you wonderful people who have responded to my query about my CLUNES family. I have been chasing them for years and have even engaged a couple of researchers in the past with very little gained. However, if I can find the evidence that the Captain Gordon CLUNES who died at Bronar Bridge is MY Captain, I'll be off and running!!! It looks like this man is my 3xGGrandfather. Some time back I was sent a photocopy of a hand written pedigree of the CLUNES family which was prepared by someone named Alistair Gordon, however, I've never seen any link between this pedigree and the very little data I have for my family. The chart is in the tiniest handwriting (& my eyes are growing dim) BUT, it has a Gordon CLUNES who died at Bronar Bridge on 27 July 1811. Their are no descendants recorded for this man, but if he's mine, then I suppose it's because his son was illegitimate. According to the chart, Gordon CLUNES, born 1736/7, a Lt. Col who died Crakaig 17 March 1814, and his wife, Anne GORDON, daughter of John GORDON of Carroll had the following children: John, Lt 1st Ft. died West Indies Archibald, died West Indies William (only surviving son by 1811), 22 years in Army including 20 years in 50 Ft.; offers to sell commission in 1811, nearest relation of late Carroll; Capt. 93rd Ft.; Maj. Sutherland Fencibles 1794; Dornoch councillor 1812-14; died 24 November 1830. Son George born 8 June 1819; daughter Ann born 1819 *Gordon, died 27 July 1811 Brora Bridge; Dornoch Councillor 1808-1811; Capt. 93 Ft; issue 1 daughter 2 other sons, dead by 1811 (?incl Hector d. 1795) Margaret, marr. J.J. ??? a surgeon; a child of hers succeeds to Crakaig on death of Maj. William; son William killed Peninsula War; son Gordon 2 more daughters Elizabeth, died 1837 Anne, born 24 Feb. 1787, died 11 Nov. 1881; married by 1808 Joseph GORDON of Carroll These people have been traced back to an Archibald CLUNACE from Cromarty in 1338. If they are mine, I'll have to start looking at GORDONs! And Malcolm, on this tree there is an Alexander CLUNES of Nielston who was a collector of cess (?) for Cromarty in 1678, his son John went to Sutherland where he was the Earl's factor . Much of this data seems to have been sourced from something/someone called Sage. Thanks a lot everyone - I now am filled with renewed hope. Lyndall Canberra, Oz. -------------------------------------------- The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. If memory serves me right, they lived at Lothbeg. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era. Gordon and horse actually tumbled off Brora Bridge. Malcolm Bangor-Jones ******************************************************************* ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01