Yes, but no need to write it like antidisestablishmentarianism Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <claireatkinson@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions So macuilammacheorishmacneil would be "son of william, son of George, son of Neil"? Claire >-- Original Message -- >From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas> >Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:42:35 +0100 >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >It's the genitive (possessive) of 'George': Seòras - (pron. 'shore - us') is the subject or direct object form Sheòrais - (pron 'hyore - ish') is the genitive - 'of George'. D'you remember my lesson on Sheumas & Hamish??? Sara ----- Orig >nal Message ----- From: "Ian Morrison" <ianmorrison> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > Hi Claire: > I'm sorry to say that "Heorish" has me s >umped. Please tell me the date of the entry and whether the person whose event is recorded had any siblings. > > I would say that there is a very high probability that Hugh Macuilammachustin Morrison and John Macuilammachustin are brothers but it >is not a certainty. Islandhall is not a large island and this adds to the probability. If there was one more generation in their patronymics, that would also add to the probability. > > The person who may connect me to this group of people is a Joh > "Macuilammachustianmacachinroy" who married Christian Calder (Donn) Feb 24, 1792 and had a son, Hugh, baptised Jun 19, 1793. She was a widow but it does not state whether it was his second marriage. They had no other children, apparently. In the m >rriage entry he is described as a joiner in Durin but in the baptism entry he is described as a tenent in Achins of Cnocbreac. It is tempting to assume that this John is the same person as your John Macuilammachustin, whose last child with Catharin > Mackay, George, was born in 1787. > > A year or so ago, I tried to construct a family tree for the descendants of Eachan Ruadh Morrison using similar patronymics but ran into the difficulty of apparently conflicting and/or improbable dates. Part >f the difficulty stems from the extended periods over which their children were born; so that you find nephews being older than their uncles, for example. I will try again when the golfing season is over. > > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: claireatkinson@tiscali.co.uk > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:37 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > > Hi Ian > > Thanks for the help. > > I've another one which I would like some help in trans >ating! > > Its macuilammacheorishmacneil. > > I can guess that its: son of William, son of "Heorish" son of Neil, but > what is "Heorish"? > > Also, if I have found entries in the Durness Parish Registers for Hugh Morison(alias > Macuillammac >ustin), would it be certain that he was the brother of John > Morison (alias Macuillammachustin)? In this case they both came from Islandhall. > > Thanks again > > Claire > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous m >ssages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.an >estry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ooooo! Which University did you go to? {:-))) Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > Yes, but no need to write it like antidisestablishmentarianism > Sara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <claireatkinson@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:04 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > > > So macuilammacheorishmacneil would be "son of william, son of George, > son > of Neil"? > > Claire > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas> > >Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:42:35 +0100 > >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >It's the genitive (possessive) of 'George': > > Seòras - (pron. 'shore - us') is the subject or direct object form > > Sheòrais - (pron 'hyore - ish') is the genitive - 'of George'. > > D'you remember my lesson on Sheumas & Hamish??? > > Sara > > ----- Orig > >nal Message ----- > From: "Ian Morrison" <ianmorrison> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:55 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > > > > Hi Claire: > > I'm sorry to say that "Heorish" has me s > >umped. Please > tell me the date of the entry and whether the person whose event is > recorded had any siblings. > > > > I would say that there is a very high probability that Hugh > Macuilammachustin Morrison and John Macuilammachustin are brothers but > it > >is not a certainty. Islandhall is not a large island and this adds > to the probability. If there was one more generation in their > patronymics, that would also add to the probability. > > > > The person who may connect me to this group of people is a Joh > > > "Macuilammachustianmacachinroy" who married Christian Calder (Donn) > Feb 24, 1792 and had a son, Hugh, baptised Jun 19, 1793. She was a > widow but it does not state whether it was his second marriage. They > had no other children, apparently. In the m > >rriage entry he is > described as a joiner in Durin but in the baptism entry he is > described as a tenent in Achins of Cnocbreac. It is tempting to assume > that this John is the same person as your John Macuilammachustin, > whose last child with Catharin > > Mackay, George, was born in 1787. > > > > A year or so ago, I tried to construct a family tree for the > descendants of Eachan Ruadh Morrison using similar patronymics but ran > into the difficulty of apparently conflicting and/or improbable dates. > Part > >f the difficulty stems from the extended periods over which > their children were born; so that you find nephews being older than > their uncles, for example. I will try again when the golfing season is > over. > > > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: claireatkinson@tiscali.co.uk > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:37 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming conventions > > > > Hi Ian > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > I've another one which I would like some help in trans > >ating! > > > > Its macuilammacheorishmacneil. > > > > I can guess that its: son of William, son of "Heorish" son of Neil, > but > > what is "Heorish"? > > > > Also, if I have found entries in the Durness Parish Registers for > Hugh Morison(alias > > Macuillammac > >ustin), would it be certain that he was the brother of > John > > Morison (alias Macuillammachustin)? In this case they both came > from Islandhall. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Claire > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > To check out previous m > >ssages > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > http://www.an > >estry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >