Isabella sorry for the late reply - it's been a busy week! I'm glad the info was useful - I'm fairly sure that all the children I listed are of the same family. I got all the info either from the records offices in Brora or Dingwall, or from IGI or Scots origins. They are a tricky lot to follow as they moved around so much - obviously a family with itchy feet! I attach below some additional information I have on the family, but with the following proviso. Much of the information outside of Margaret Lyall Murray's line (my own) is unconfirmed anecdotal information from my great aunt Georgie who is my oldest remaining relative on that side of the family (Margaret Lyall Murray's youngest daughter). She used to correspond with the family in Canada although she lost touch some years ago now. I hope that this is useful. If anyone has any more information - or can confirm anything then I'd love to hear about it. Cheers Dario 1 James MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: ca 1852 Occ: Farm servant Father: Sinclair MURRAY Mother: Jane MOWAT James was a grieve (farm manager) at Clynelish. He retired at sixty and went to Canada and started all his sons up in business. James and Elizabeth had a house in Winnipeg and one in Vancouver. A photo exists showing the wooden bungalow as number 231. But street is not known. Spouse: Elizabeth JACK Birth: ca 1853 Death: Canada Father: Donald JACK (1806-) Mother: Margaret LYALL Marr: 1 Aug 1873, Dunnet Children: Sinclair (1874-) Donald Jack (1875-) Margaret Lyall (1877-1968) Jane Mowat (1879-1963) James (1881-) Elizabeth Jack (1882-) Jessie Brodie (1884-) Alexander Brown Lawson (1886-) John Bremner (1888-) Catherine Mennie (1890-) Ann Isabella (1892-) Edward (1893-) Cecilia (1895-) 1.1a Sinclair MURRAY* ---------------------------------------- Birth: 29 Jan 1874, Dunnet They had a small farm called "Greenland" near Castletown in Caithness Spouse: Christina Other Spouses Betty 1.1b Sinclair MURRAY* (See above) ---------------------------------------- Spouse: Betty Other Spouses Christina 1.2 Donald Jack MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 20 Oct 1875, Bower, Caithness Went to Canada according to Georgie 1.3 Margaret Lyall MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 18 Sep 1877, Bonar Death: 21 Feb 1968, Brora Burial: Brora Cemetery She owned a Wolseley Ten in 1924 Spouse: Benjamin LESLIE Birth: 2 Mar 1870, Rhidorrach Death: 26 Dec 1927 Father: Benjamin LESLIE (1832-1870) Mother: Louisa MURRAY (ca1836-1921) Marr: 27 Sep 1899, Golspie Children: Christina (Died as Infant) (1901-1901) Christina (1903-1982) James Murray (1904-?) Andrew Murray (1906-1990) Elizabeth Jack (1908-ca1997) Louisa (1910-?) Edith Lyall (1911-2001) Bertha (1913-1999) Alexander Brown Lawson (1915-1985) Margaret Murray (1916-?2001) Georgina Sinclair (1918-) 1.3.1 Christina LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 7 Oct 1901 Death: 16 Oct 1901 1.3.2 Christina LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 29 Apr 1903 Death: 12 Oct 1982 Burial: Brora Cemetery Lived in house named Dunstaffnage in Golspie. Spouse: Captain James Hamilton THOMPSON MRCVS Death: 24 Dec 1942 Children: Leslie Lorna 1.3.3 James Murray LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 24 May 1904 Spouse: Margaret LITTLE Children: Alistair Murray Morag 1.3.4 Andrew Murray LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 11 Sep 1906 Death: 9 Jun 1990 Burial: Brora Cemetery Spouse: Catherine M CAMERON Birth: ca 1903 Death: 25 Apr 1996 Children: Alfred Margaret 1.3.5 Elizabeth Jack LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 10 Sep 1908 Death: ca 1997 Known as Bunty. Spouse: Hugh Donald McPHERSON No Children 1.3.6a Louisa LESLIE* ---------------------------------------- Birth: 8 Jul 1910 Spouse: Charles John HAMILTON Death: 19 Mar 1963 Other Spouses Harold WHICHCORD 1.3.6b Louisa LESLIE* (See above) ---------------------------------------- Spouse: Harold WHICHCORD Other Spouses Charles John HAMILTON 1.3.7 Edith Lyall LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 27 Sep 1911 Death: 13 Mar 2001, Thurso, Scotland Burial: Thurso, Scotland Spouse: Hugh Donald SUTHERLAND Birth: 1919/20 Death: 8 Aug 1959 Father: Alexander SUTHERLAND Children: Alexander Leslie Donald Mackay 1.3.8 Bertha LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 22 Nov 1913, Hunters Cottages Brora Death: 4 Sep 1999, Newark Hospital Burial: Brora Cemetery Occ: Confectioner and Hotel Manageress Educ: Brora Secondary Modern Reli: Various Known as Bertha Angela Maria and latterly as Gail. Started work in Liptons shop Victoria Rd Brora and then took over the management of the Morrison Bakers Shop in Golspie. Met Alfred in Belmont House Victoria Rd. Her mother. who lived in the house with Georgie, took in lodgers and Alfred came to lodge there after living in the Grand Hotel in Fountain Sq for a short time. Spouse: Alfredo CAPALDI Birth: 5 Mar 1907, Picinisco Death: 18 Jan 1937, Cambasavie Hospital Father: Benardo CAPALDI (1884-1952) Mother: Angela PERILLI Marr: 23 Jan 1935, Kingussie Children: Alfred Bonifazio (1935-) 1.3.9 Alexander Brown Lawson LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 7 May 1915 Death: 7 Apr 1985 Burial: Thurso, Scotland Spouse: Ella Children: Alan John 1.3.10 Margaret Murray LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 3 May 1916 Death: ? Feb 2001 Fostered Paul and Ian Spouse: Tom McCABE Children: Arlene Avril Ann Margaret Paul (Foster) Ian (Foster) 1.3.11 Georgina Sinclair LESLIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 11 Apr 1918 Spouse: Kenneth Rogerson ANDREWS Birth: 15 Dec 1916 Father: Stanley Wilson ANDREWS Mother: Ermintude Spence ROGERSON Marr: 6 Feb 1943 Children: Doreen Rogerson (1945-) 1.4 Jane Mowat MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 4 Jun 1879, Bonar Bridge Death: 9 Apr 1963 Burial: Brora Cemetery Known as Auntie Jeanie. Lived in the house called Temperence Hotel in Rosslyn St Brora. Spouse: William McKAY Birth: ca 1878 Death: 3 Jun 1915, Clyne Milton Children: James (-1918) Betty Edith Joy Andrew Donald (-1912) 1.4.1 James McKAY ---------------------------------------- Death: 9 Sep 1918, Killed in War 1.4.2 Betty McKAY ---------------------------------------- 1.4.3 Edith McKAY ---------------------------------------- 1.4.4 Joy McKAY ---------------------------------------- 1.4.5 Andrew McKAY ---------------------------------------- Spouse: Meg Children: Michael 1.4.6 Donald McKAY ---------------------------------------- Death: 18 Nov 1912 Burial: Brora Cemetery 1.5 James MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 16 Jul 1881, Clynelish 1.6 Elizabeth Jack MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 7 Sep 1882, Clynelish Auntie Lizzie Spouse: William McLENNAN Children: Hector Kenneth Norman Constance 1.6.1 Hector McLENNAN ---------------------------------------- Occ: Dr of Philosophy in London 1.6.2 Kenneth McLENNAN ---------------------------------------- Killed in Egypt? 1.6.3 Norman McLENNAN ---------------------------------------- Occ: Exciseman 1.6.4 Constance McLENNAN ---------------------------------------- 1.7 Jessie Brodie MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 28 Sep 1884, Clynelish Auntie Jessie 1.8 Alexander Brown Lawson MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 10 Aug 1886, Clynelish Was wounded in the 1WW. Went to Canada and married an American Indian from Calgary 1.9 John Bremner MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 13 Apr 1888, Clynelish John was a photographer in Nova Scotia Children: Jack Bremner 1.9.1 Jack MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Jack was a pilot of Wellington/Lancaster bombers during the II world War and was known for his laid back manner and devil may care attitude. 1.9.2 Bremner MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Known as Brem. He was awarded the MM by the RCAF as the youngest airman to be shot down in France and escaped by stealing a German plane - he was decorated by the Canadian Ambassador in London. A spitfire pilot, on his return to Brora he never mentioned the award of the MM 1.10 Catherine Mennie MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 4 Dec 1890, Clynelish Auntie Katie Spouse: Charles DREWRY Marr: Winnipeg 1.11 Ann Isabella MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 9 Sep 1892, Clynelish Auntie Annie Spouse: Leonard James BOWIE Children: Leonard 1.11.1 Leonard BOWIE ---------------------------------------- 1.12 Edward MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 22 Dec 1893, Clynelish Went to Canada according to Georgie 1.13 Cecilia MURRAY ---------------------------------------- Birth: 25 Nov 1895, Clynelish Known as Auntie Tottie. Went to Canada then USA. Georgie had an address of 298 Strand Ave, Pleasant Hill California Spouse: John CHAPELL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com