Hi Robin Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to www.streetmap.co.uk Put in Dornoch and tick UK place When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left and you will come to Evelix. Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie did not think mothers very important and so up until the early 1800s only fathers are shown on the registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the father and search ALL you should see the children born to him. Norman Macdonald is not a common name so you should get a good idea. Only way to check they are his children is to follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all born in the same place or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they are there with their children. How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look him up on some lists I have here. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Helping a Friend Hi Christine This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, so I am confused now, which according to my husband is nothing new. The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married in 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned on the IGI. Is that unusual? Thanks Again Robin and my friend Jim --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > I have information o > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA GRAY > [1764-24/5/1834] > [c1776-27/5/1860] > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and (Isobel/Bell) > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > Isabella is the daughter of > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > had the following > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > October 1796 Rearchar > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error on > this families > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or Margaret, > born 31 January 1802 > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > - see note below; > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > February 1809 Pronsy [married > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > Rogart] [married > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born 14 > May 1815 Balvraid; > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > Mackay died in 1834 and > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > Thomas and Mary. There seems > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > George and Isabella Mackay, > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at Coul, > the house was referred > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 years, > had nine acres of land. > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all unmarried, > were with her. There > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > 7, born in Dornoch, with > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > and a widow. Her son in > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death certificate > as the informant. > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > mentioned above, may be the > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > Mackay, who had the only child > of this name born at that time. However, the census > states she was born in > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > Alexander Macdonald and > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, born > 28 June 1827; John, born > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, born > 14 November 1833; > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June 1836; > Thomas, born 23 January > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Helping a Friend > > Hi Everyone > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > 27 Aug > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > list] > > wife of Thomas > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch Parish, > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. Cawmore, > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Isabella > > James McKAY and > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 dp. > Evelix, > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > ------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, Dornoch, > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > 1911 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas Gibson] > > wife of Hugh > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > Knockarthur, > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Margaret > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > Parish, > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > 1871 dp. > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. 4 > Jul 1866 > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > parents of Alexander > > Norman McDONALD b. bp. m. 13 Dec > 1774 d. dp. > and > Janet GUNN b. bp. d. dp. > > parents of Elizabeth McKay > > George McKAY b. bp. m. 16 Feb 1793 d. > dp. > and > Isabel GRAY b. bp. d. dp. > > If anyone knows anything about these families, > please > contact me a rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk > > Thank you > Robin > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous > messages to this list. 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Hi Christine I checked for Norman as father like you said, the IGI website said I either had to have the first name of the mother or the childs name typed in. I next did a search for Alexander fathers name Norman, and came up with no Alexander McDonald born in Sutherland. According to what I found on Norman McDonald he should have been in Golspie for quite awhile, thats if the information is true. Here it is Norman McDonald b. abt 1749 in Golspie, married Janet Gunn Dec 13 1774 in Golspie. This is according to the IGI, and I have not found any other birth record for a Norman in all of Scotland that even comes close in the IGI. Thanks Again Robin --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robin > Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to > www.streetmap.co.uk > Put in Dornoch and tick UK place > When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left > and you will come to > Evelix. > > Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie > did not think mothers > very important and so up until the early 1800s only > fathers are shown on the > registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the > father and search ALL you > should see the children born to him. Norman > Macdonald is not a common name > so you should get a good idea. Only way to check > they are his children is to > follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all > born in the same place > or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they > are there with their > children. > > How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look > him up on some lists I > have here. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Helping a Friend > > Hi Christine > > This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where > Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, > so > I am confused now, which according to my husband is > nothing new. > The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married > in > 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned > on the IGI. Is that unusual? > > Thanks Again > Robin and my friend Jim > --- Christine Stokes > <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > > I have information o > > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA > GRAY > > [1764-24/5/1834] > > [c1776-27/5/1860] > > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and > (Isobel/Bell) > > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > > Isabella is the daughter of > > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > > had the following > > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > > October 1796 Rearchar > > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error > on > > this families > > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or > Margaret, > > born 31 January 1802 > > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > > - see note below; > > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > > February 1809 Pronsy [married > > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > > Rogart] [married > > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born > 14 > > May 1815 Balvraid; > > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > > Mackay died in 1834 and > > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > > Thomas and Mary. There seems > > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > > George and Isabella Mackay, > > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at > Coul, > > the house was referred > > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 > years, > > had nine acres of land. > > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all > unmarried, > > were with her. There > > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > > 7, born in Dornoch, with > > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > > and a widow. Her son in > > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death > certificate > > as the informant. > > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > > mentioned above, may be the > > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > > Mackay, who had the only child > > of this name born at that time. However, the > census > > states she was born in > > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > > Alexander Macdonald and > > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, > born > > 28 June 1827; John, born > > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, > born > > 14 November 1833; > > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June > 1836; > > Thomas, born 23 January > > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > > > Christine > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Van Belleghem > > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Helping a Friend > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > > 27 Aug > > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > > list] > > > > wife of Thomas > > > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch > Parish, > > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. > Cawmore, > > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Isabella > > > > James McKAY and > > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 > dp. > > Evelix, > > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, > Dornoch, > > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > > 1911 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas > Gibson] > > > > wife of Hugh > > > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > > Knockarthur, > > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Margaret > > > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > > Parish, > > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > > 1871 dp. > > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. > 4 > > Jul 1866 > > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > > parents of Alexander > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
There was a Norman Macdonald family in Rogart said to come from a Major Macdonald who is buried in Rogart. Norman Macdonald appears to be the son of a James Macdonald son of the Major. Now it is said locally that all the Macdonalds in the old kirkyard in Rogart are of the same family but this is hard to prove. Descendants were known as the Jimmy Normans; the Willie Normans, etc. Norman is absolutely not a common name in Sutherland so I think your Norman must have some sort of link with this Rogart family. Wish I could think of a way to advise you but I have been struggling for ages myself trying to sort out all these Rogart Macdonalds. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:27 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Helping a Friend Hi Christine I checked for Norman as father like you said, the IGI website said I either had to have the first name of the mother or the childs name typed in. I next did a search for Alexander fathers name Norman, and came up with no Alexander McDonald born in Sutherland. According to what I found on Norman McDonald he should have been in Golspie for quite awhile, thats if the information is true. Here it is Norman McDonald b. abt 1749 in Golspie, married Janet Gunn Dec 13 1774 in Golspie. This is according to the IGI, and I have not found any other birth record for a Norman in all of Scotland that even comes close in the IGI. Thanks Again Robin --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robin > Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to > www.streetmap.co.uk > Put in Dornoch and tick UK place > When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left > and you will come to > Evelix. > > Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie > did not think mothers > very important and so up until the early 1800s only > fathers are shown on the > registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the > father and search ALL you > should see the children born to him. Norman > Macdonald is not a common name > so you should get a good idea. Only way to check > they are his children is to > follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all > born in the same place > or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they > are there with their > children. > > How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look > him up on some lists I > have here. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Helping a Friend > > Hi Christine > > This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where > Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, > so > I am confused now, which according to my husband is > nothing new. > The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married > in > 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned > on the IGI. Is that unusual? > > Thanks Again > Robin and my friend Jim > --- Christine Stokes > <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > > I have information o > > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA > GRAY > > [1764-24/5/1834] > > [c1776-27/5/1860] > > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and > (Isobel/Bell) > > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > > Isabella is the daughter of > > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > > had the following > > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > > October 1796 Rearchar > > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error > on > > this families > > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or > Margaret, > > born 31 January 1802 > > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > > - see note below; > > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > > February 1809 Pronsy [married > > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > > Rogart] [married > > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born > 14 > > May 1815 Balvraid; > > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > > Mackay died in 1834 and > > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > > Thomas and Mary. There seems > > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > > George and Isabella Mackay, > > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at > Coul, > > the house was referred > > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 > years, > > had nine acres of land. > > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all > unmarried, > > were with her. There > > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > > 7, born in Dornoch, with > > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > > and a widow. Her son in > > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death > certificate > > as the informant. > > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > > mentioned above, may be the > > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > > Mackay, who had the only child > > of this name born at that time. However, the > census > > states she was born in > > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > > Alexander Macdonald and > > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, > born > > 28 June 1827; John, born > > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, > born > > 14 November 1833; > > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June > 1836; > > Thomas, born 23 January > > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > > > Christine > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Van Belleghem > > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Helping a Friend > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > > 27 Aug > > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > > list] > > > > wife of Thomas > > > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch > Parish, > > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. > Cawmore, > > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Isabella > > > > James McKAY and > > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 > dp. > > Evelix, > > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, > Dornoch, > > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > > 1911 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas > Gibson] > > > > wife of Hugh > > > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > > Knockarthur, > > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Margaret > > > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > > Parish, > > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > > 1871 dp. > > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. > 4 > > Jul 1866 > > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > > parents of Alexander > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Hi Christine & List, The above book was published in 1926 by George Souter, Dingwall. It has been in our family since 1931 when the author signed it. The author had been a teacher in Inverness, Easter & Wester Ross, Lewis, Sutherland and Caithness. It is a delightful collection of fairy, ghost, witch or second sight stories recorded by pupils in his senior classes at that time. There are not very many family names mentioned but here is one about the Clan Mackay: "In the long, long ago this Highlander was trying to make fire by rubbing two sticks together, but could not manage it. His wife upbraided him as he worked away with the two bits of stick till his arms ached exceedingly. At last, wearied beyond measure, he began to curse and swear and then went away to the hills in an awful temper. He had not gone very far when he saw a ball of fire gliding over the moor. Says he to himself, 'If I could only catch that, what a lot of bother it would save us.' So he at once gave chase, caught the ball of fire, put it in his pocket, and brought it home to his wife, saying, 'Don't eat any more raw meat.' They kept the fire going; neighbours came to borrow light from it, so that before long it spread all over the world. That is why the Mackays aver that they are called SONS OF FIRE." BW Brenda T. Hamilton, ON, Canada