Thanks for the info, Dick. I will check it out. There are several of us who would like to attach Stephen Clark and family to a specific boat. Bob Eckerman On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:50:19 -0000 "dick.murray" <dick.murray@ntlworld.com> writes: Hello Bob, here is something from so far out that it might not even work. Re Party from Sutherland to Canada circa1832.As this would have been about 16 years after the original Red River Settlement was wiped out,restarted the following year,it is possible!that the passenger lists were better kept.To that end if you key http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=82767820 into your browser.It will not get you anything as the number has been removed from their database.However in the Search panel enter "New World Immigrants",without the " and you will be amazed at what pops up.It is some sort of Bidding Forum.There appears to be at least a thousand different Genealogy Books and Ship Lists.You never know. Yours Aye dick murray (Researching the Murray Families of Sutherland).