Hi I have been researching this family for some time without being able to definitely pin down our line. James and Alexander McKay are such common names. Anyhow, my ancestor James Rose McKay was born in the Parish of Dornoch in June between 1819 and 1822 (can't define a date as he seemed to change his age on different documents). I have no idea if he had any brothers or sisters but it is likely there were. According to the family bible, James father was Alexander McKay born 1787 died 1852 (where I have no idea possibly Dornoch). Alexander's occupation as given on James Death Certificate in 1893 was a blacksmith. I can't confirm this info. Again, according to the family bible (and I have not sighted this as it was transcribed for me) Alexander's wife was Ann Sutherland no date of birth but a death date of 1826. I have not been able to find any marriage between Alexander and Ann on the IGI or OPR so this info might not be accurate either. Now James enlisted with the 71st Highland Light Infantry Regiment in 1835 giving his age as 18 (but he could have stretched the truth a little in order to be able to enlist) because in 1858 he stated his age on the birth certificate of one of his children as 39 putting his date of birth as 1819. Following discharge in Lachine, Lower Canada (now Quebec) James married a Mary Peck in 1839 and there was two children, Alexander born 1842 and James E. born 1845. Mary Peck died in 1845 in Odelltown, Quebec Canada. James Rose remarried an Elizabeth Barbour in 1848 and I found James Rose McKay and Elizabeth living in Woodstock, East Zorra township, Oxford County, Ontario in the 1851 Census. James junior was living with them but Alexander was not shown on the census? Anyway, James and Elizabeth decided to emigrate to Melbourne Australia but did not bring James E and Alexander to the new country with them. They remained in Canada with Elizabeth's parents, Robert and Mary Barbour (nee Orr). This is a mystery I would like to clear up - possibly there are descendants of James and Alexander still in Canada. Anyway, you may be interested to read all of this and if no connection can be made now, who knows at a later stage. Regards from Christchurch, NewZealand Mary-Ann Farr Jerry H Christensen wrote: > > I was interested in your information on Alexander MacKay. I show an > Alexander MacKay in my family file from Inverness born 1784 one of 10 > children. Could there be some link here? > > Bella Christensen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary-Ann Farr <maryannf@xtra.co.nz> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, Sutherland > > > Hi Lynn > > Am interested to see in your list an Alexander Rose. My ancestor James > > Rose McKay travelled with the 71st Highland Light Infantry regiment to > > Montreal in 1835 where he served until his discharge in 1838. > > > > I can find no connection with a Rose family. Supposedly James father was > > Alexander McKay. > > > > Thanks for any help you are able to offer. > > > > Mary-Ann Farr > > > > Lynn Munro wrote: > > > > > > Hi Christine, > > > Thank you for the welcome. It is my understanding that when Angus > MacKay > > > went back to Scotland in late 1828 he commissioned a ship himself to > bring > > > his friends and relatives back to Zorra. There is a possibility that the > > > ship was called the "Kate of Newcastle". I do not know if this has been > > > confirmed by anyone. I just found a note in our Mackay history that > has > > > been quoted from a book called "One Hundred Years in the Zorra Church" > by > > > W.D.McIntosh. It states that Angus returned in 1828 and in 1829 > commissioned > > > a "small sailing vessel" with money that was left to his mother Janet > Gordon > > > MacKay. The voyage took 13 weeks. After landing in Quebec they had a > "usual > > > tedious and dangerous trip of 2 weeks up the St. Lawrence in small open > > > boats towed by Oxen. By ox-cart and along blazed trails through the > forests > > > of Ontario they made their way to their future home, arriving in the > autumn > > > of 1829." There is another book called History of Zorra and Embro- > Pioneer > > > Sketches of Sixty Years Ago by W.A. Ross that gives a similar account > but no > > > ship name. > > > I do have some names of people who were probably on the ship but these > will > > > not be confirmed. I will include them anyway; Alexander MacKay (farmer), > > > Donald MacKay(blacksmith), Hector MacKay, Angus MacKay, John MacKay > > > (wagonmaker), Donald Murray of Cleargay, McIvor MacKay, James Macleod, > > > W.C. MacLeod and his brothers and sisters, Mrs. Donald MacKay(Leavat) > and 6 > > > sisters and four brothers Donald, John, James, George. > > > George MacKay of Relochan > > > Robert Matheson > > > Alexander Munro > > > Squire Gordon > > > Alexander Matheson > > > Hector Ross > > > Alexander Rose > > > William MacKay > > > I have a large amount of information on the original MacKay family that > I > > > just received from a great MacKay genealogist. I am still working my way > > > though it. Lynn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> > > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 10:13 PM > > > Subject: RE: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, Sutherland > > > > > > > Hello Lynn > > > > Welcome to the list. > > > > Would you know if there is such a thing as a passenger list of the > people > > > > who travelled on the boat which Angus Mackay arranged after he > returned to > > > > Sutherland in about 1828? > > > > A lot of folks very interested in this sailing. > > > > Christine > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lynn Munro [mailto:ornum@execulink.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:32 AM > > > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: re: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, > Sutherland > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I would also like to introduce myself to the list. My interests > include > > > the > > > > Munros from Dornoch, the MacKay's from Rogart and the Sutherlands also > > > from > > > > the same area. I live in West Zorra, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada > where > > > a > > > > large number of Sutherlandshire people emigrated to following the > > > > Clearances. The settlement started about 1819 with William and Angus > > > MacKay, > > > > brothers who made their way to Zorra because of land opening up in the > > > > township. William had been a Captain in the ninety-third Sutherland > and > > > > Argyleshire Highland Regiment and at the close of the Peninsular War > had > > > > been granted his discharge. Angus returned to Sutherland in about 1828 > and > > > > hired a boat bringing back to Zorra many of his relatives that had > been > > > > evicted by the Duke of Sutherland. The Munro's may have been on that > > > > original boat or they came shortly after. > > > > William MacKay was born in Rogart about 1794 and Angus MacKay about > > > 1798. > > > > Their parents were George MacKay and Janet Gordon. George's parents > were > > > > Angus and Isobel MacKay. Isobel at the age of 80 came on the boat in > 1829 > > > to > > > > Zorra but died within 3 months and was the first person buried in the > Old > > > > Log Cemetery. > > > > Charles Munro married Ann Ross in Scotland and I believe that all > their > > > > children were born in Canada. If anyone has connections to any of > these > > > > families I would love to hear from you. 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My Alexander was born 1784. His father was John MacKay and Ann Mason. Alexander ----- was born in Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland. Sincerely Isabella Christensen From: Mary-AnnFarr <maryannf@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: Re: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, Sutherland > Hi > I have been researching this family for some time without being able to > definitely pin down our line. James and Alexander McKay are such common > names. > > Anyhow, my ancestor James Rose McKay was born in the Parish of Dornoch > in June between 1819 and 1822 (can't define a date as he seemed to > change his age on different documents). I have no idea if he had any > brothers or sisters but it is likely there were. According to the > family bible, James father was Alexander McKay born 1787 died 1852 > (where I have no idea possibly Dornoch). Alexander's occupation as > given on James Death Certificate in 1893 was a blacksmith. I can't > confirm this info. > > Again, according to the family bible (and I have not sighted this as it > was transcribed for me) Alexander's wife was Ann Sutherland no date of > birth but a death date of 1826. I have not been able to find any > marriage between Alexander and Ann on the IGI or OPR so this info might > not be accurate either. > > Now James enlisted with the 71st Highland Light Infantry Regiment in > 1835 giving his age as 18 (but he could have stretched the truth a > little in order to be able to enlist) because in 1858 he stated his age > on the birth certificate of one of his children as 39 putting his date > of birth as 1819. > > Following discharge in Lachine, Lower Canada (now Quebec) James married > a Mary Peck in 1839 and there was two children, Alexander born 1842 and > James E. born 1845. Mary Peck died in 1845 in Odelltown, Quebec Canada. > James Rose remarried an Elizabeth Barbour in 1848 and I found James Rose > McKay and Elizabeth living in Woodstock, East Zorra township, Oxford > County, Ontario in the 1851 Census. James junior was living with them > but Alexander was not shown on the census? > > Anyway, James and Elizabeth decided to emigrate to Melbourne Australia > but did not bring James E and Alexander to the new country with them. > They remained in Canada with Elizabeth's parents, Robert and Mary > Barbour (nee Orr). This is a mystery I would like to clear up - > possibly there are descendants of James and Alexander still in Canada. > > Anyway, you may be interested to read all of this and if no connection > can be made now, who knows at a later stage. > > Regards from Christchurch, NewZealand > Mary-Ann Farr > > > > Jerry H Christensen wrote: > > > > I was interested in your information on Alexander MacKay. I show an > > Alexander MacKay in my family file from Inverness born 1784 one of 10 > > children. Could there be some link here? > > > > Bella Christensen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mary-Ann Farr <maryannf@xtra.co.nz> > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:34 AM > > Subject: Re: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, Sutherland > > > > > Hi Lynn > > > Am interested to see in your list an Alexander Rose. My ancestor James > > > Rose McKay travelled with the 71st Highland Light Infantry regiment to > > > Montreal in 1835 where he served until his discharge in 1838. > > > > > > I can find no connection with a Rose family. Supposedly James father was > > > Alexander McKay. > > > > > > Thanks for any help you are able to offer. > > > > > > Mary-Ann Farr > > > > > > Lynn Munro wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Christine, > > > > Thank you for the welcome. It is my understanding that when Angus > > MacKay > > > > went back to Scotland in late 1828 he commissioned a ship himself to > > bring > > > > his friends and relatives back to Zorra. There is a possibility that the > > > > ship was called the "Kate of Newcastle". I do not know if this has been > > > > confirmed by anyone. I just found a note in our Mackay history that > > has > > > > been quoted from a book called "One Hundred Years in the Zorra Church" > > by > > > > W.D.McIntosh. It states that Angus returned in 1828 and in 1829 > > commissioned > > > > a "small sailing vessel" with money that was left to his mother Janet > > Gordon > > > > MacKay. The voyage took 13 weeks. After landing in Quebec they had a > > "usual > > > > tedious and dangerous trip of 2 weeks up the St. Lawrence in small open > > > > boats towed by Oxen. By ox-cart and along blazed trails through the > > forests > > > > of Ontario they made their way to their future home, arriving in the > > autumn > > > > of 1829." There is another book called History of Zorra and Embro- > > Pioneer > > > > Sketches of Sixty Years Ago by W.A. Ross that gives a similar account > > but no > > > > ship name. > > > > I do have some names of people who were probably on the ship but these > > will > > > > not be confirmed. I will include them anyway; Alexander MacKay (farmer), > > > > Donald MacKay(blacksmith), Hector MacKay, Angus MacKay, John MacKay > > > > (wagonmaker), Donald Murray of Cleargay, McIvor MacKay, James Macleod, > > > > W.C. MacLeod and his brothers and sisters, Mrs. Donald MacKay(Leavat) > > and 6 > > > > sisters and four brothers Donald, John, James, George. > > > > George MacKay of Relochan > > > > Robert Matheson > > > > Alexander Munro > > > > Squire Gordon > > > > Alexander Matheson > > > > Hector Ross > > > > Alexander Rose > > > > William MacKay > > > > I have a large amount of information on the original MacKay family that > > I > > > > just received from a great MacKay genealogist. I am still working my way > > > > though it. Lynn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 10:13 PM > > > > Subject: RE: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, Sutherland > > > > > > > > > Hello Lynn > > > > > Welcome to the list. > > > > > Would you know if there is such a thing as a passenger list of the > > people > > > > > who travelled on the boat which Angus Mackay arranged after he > > returned to > > > > > Sutherland in about 1828? > > > > > A lot of folks very interested in this sailing. > > > > > Christine > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Lynn Munro [mailto:ornum@execulink.com] > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:32 AM > > > > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: re: MacKay\Munro\Sutherland from Rogart and Dornoch, > > Sutherland > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I would also like to introduce myself to the list. My interests > > include > > > > the > > > > > Munros from Dornoch, the MacKay's from Rogart and the Sutherlands also > > > > from > > > > > the same area. I live in West Zorra, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada > > where > > > > a > > > > > large number of Sutherlandshire people emigrated to following the > > > > > Clearances. The settlement started about 1819 with William and Angus > > > > MacKay, > > > > > brothers who made their way to Zorra because of land opening up in the > > > > > township. William had been a Captain in the ninety-third Sutherland > > and > > > > > Argyleshire Highland Regiment and at the close of the Peninsular War > > had > > > > > been granted his discharge. Angus returned to Sutherland in about 1828 > > and > > > > > hired a boat bringing back to Zorra many of his relatives that had > > been > > > > > evicted by the Duke of Sutherland. The Munro's may have been on that > > > > > original boat or they came shortly after. > > > > > William MacKay was born in Rogart about 1794 and Angus MacKay about > > > > 1798. > > > > > Their parents were George MacKay and Janet Gordon. George's parents > > were > > > > > Angus and Isobel MacKay. Isobel at the age of 80 came on the boat in > > 1829 > > > > to > > > > > Zorra but died within 3 months and was the first person buried in the > > Old > > > > > Log Cemetery. > > > > > Charles Munro married Ann Ross in Scotland and I believe that all > > their > > > > > children were born in Canada. If anyone has connections to any of > > these > > > > > families I would love to hear from you. 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