******************************************************************************************************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************* The book is quite short and does not mention Murdo McLeod. I am sure, however, that he will appear in the hagiographical literature somewhere (a quick search on my shelves failed). Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Marion McQuay [mailto:mmcquay@telusplanet.net] Sent: 30 May 2003 15:18 To: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk; SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] Effects of the Disruption ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hello Malcolm and all, I am always very interested in your knowledge about the Highlands. Does the book you mention, "The People of the Great Faith" have an index? I am wondering if my Great Great Grandfather's name is mentioned. You have heard me mention him before I am sure. In fact you answered a query of mine in the 'Highland Family History Society' magazine a few years ago which was so helpful. His name is Murdo McLeod of Elphin and he was a blind lay preacher for the Assynt Free Church, and Gaelic teacher and 'had been well and widely known all over Sutherlandshire and part of Ross-shire in the early sixties and seventies' (from his daughter Margaret's obituary). He died in 1872 aged 85 years. The book is one that I would enjoy reading. I will see if I can put my hands on it when I visit Scotland next month. Thank you for your help. Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: <Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:51 AM Subject: RE: [SUT] Effects of the Disruption > **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** > > I would suggest that the word 'steadfastly' is not really appropriate. > There certainly was initial hesitation over granting church sites. This > probably sprang as much from fears of whether the new church would lead to > new financial burdens - the estate was financially responsible for all kirks > and manses of the established church at that time. I am not aware that the > Sutherland family were influenced by theological considerations in the same > way that some landlords were. But I am happy to be corrected. In due > course sites were readily granted, as they were when the Free Presbyterian > Church came into being in the 1890s. > > However, it was not long before the estate was assisting the Free Church > with its schools (and this despite the fact that the Free Church used the > school system to put unacceptable pressure on crofting families who sent > their children to schools managed by the Established Church). Both estate > and Free Church subscribed to the 'get on and get out' approach. > > In a sense the issue of school sites became one of the foundation 'myths' of > the Free Church. There is some truth in it, but it could do with rigorous > examination. Do read Douglas Ansdell, The People of the Great Faith: The > Highland Church 1690-1900. > > Malcolm > Dundee, Scotland > > -----Original Message----- > From: Iain Sutherland > [mailto:iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk] > Sent: 29 May 2003 21:07 > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SUT] Effects of the Disruption (was: RE > POSH PHOTOGRAPHY) > > > ******************************************************************* > This email has been received from an external party and > has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. > > ******************************************************************* > > Am I right in thinking that the Sutherland estate among > others steadfastly > refused land for new churches? > Iain > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:32 PM > Subject: [SUT] Effects of the Disruption (was: RE POSH > PHOTOGRAPHY) > > > > Hi Edward, > > > > Sounds as if you were very busy! > > > > Could I just ask you what you meant when you said: > > "The churches show what the effects of the disruption > were"? > > My minister ancestors 'came out' at the Disruption of 1843 > that is, if > > they hadn't already parted from the Established Church at > the time of > > the Secession). They preached anywhere they could if they > were chucked > > out of the church building and eventually the congregation > scraped > > together enough money to built their own churches. If they > were lucky, > > a local landowner gave them land for the church and manse. > I'm sure > > the Free Church (as they were called) never damaged any > church > > buildings, if that's what the effects were that you refer > to. > > > > Sara > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > PLEASE NOTE: THE ABOVE MESSAGE WAS RECEIVED FROM THE > INTERNET. > > On entering the GSI, this email was scanned for viruses by > the Government Secure Intranet (GSI) virus scanning service supplied > exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. > > GSI users see http://www.gsi.gov.uk/main/new2002notices.htm > for further details. 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