Lee Knockarthur and Dalreavoch are the 'English' versions as far as it goes. Cnocarthur I believe means something like Arthur's Hill but really not sure and no I do not know who Arthur was. I will be in Rogart in a few weeks and will try to get proper translations for you. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: L Sutherland [mailto:lsuth27@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:23 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] Duncan of the Local Militia List Hello all, I too have noticed little traffic. The Duncan Sutherland mentioned, any idea of age? As I have observed various translations for place names, does anyone have an English version for Knockarthur and for Dalreavoch? Donald Lee Sutherland, Hamilton, Ontario _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003

This is such a shame. The on line version of the Statistical Accounts of Scotland were brilliant. Their subscription costs are very high so guess we better all get in there before the 31st of March! Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: George A Murray [mailto:cte44694@nw.centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:49 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] Such a deal. Not much time left. I have just notice that the free text searches will end March 31st, 2003, so get thee hence to: http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/stat-acc-scot.asp?session-id= 0864e3cdc5c80c351707716b694e6182 gam ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003

There is quite a deal of information on Sutherland on the Caithness site Davie recommended. It is worth checking out. Jen

I have just notice that the free text searches will end March 31st, 2003, so get thee hence to: http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/stat-acc-scot.asp?session-id=0864e3cdc5c80c351707716b694e6182 gam

Hi all, I really appreciate all the help I received with this task. I eventually found parish maps for both Caithness and Sutherland in the possesion of an old local historian in the library today, and he very kindly photo copied them for me. Thanks to all for the advice given. Bye for now Richard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 17/03/2003

I am determined to find my Highland family this year, so please help me. Robert MACLEOD and Ann MCDONALD - I cannot find a marriage Children: Margaret bapt at Lairg 19 Jan 1836, (Ferry House Lairg) Williamina bapt at Tain 3 Feb 1838, (High Mill Farm Tain) John bapt at Tain 13 Sept 1840. (High Mill Farm Tain) Robert was a pensioner and there are two Robert MACLEOD on the PRO list of pensioners either one could be mine (or not!). Margaret 15 and John 10 are in the 1851 census as being in the East Ross Union Poorhouse, however there is no Williamina, Robert or Ann. I have not found a death for Robert or Ann. Williamina (my gtgtgrandmother) and Margaret came to Australia in 1861, they both married in Melbourne and I have so much information on them after arriving there. John was sent to trade in March 1855 and have no idea what happened to him. There is a Williamina McLEOD (aged 15) in Croich in the 1851 Census index although the age is a year out. Would it be possible for someone to check if she was born in Tain; she is probably a servant. Any help I can get would be most appreciated and I am happy to do lookups in return. Janet in hot and sunny Perth Western Australia PS I have been receiving okay

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Hi, Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about Cambusmore, this list is much better (and friendlier) than my Gazetteer. Ian

I recently discovered someone else doing research on my CALDER kin in Dornoch. This information was shared with me: James CALDER married Catherine GORDON Feb 20th, 1818 in Skibo. Jame's father was William CALDER, who was married to Isobel MUNRO. Anyone have any information on any of these folks? I thought someone at POSH was doing the CALDERS of Dornoch, but I don't know how many there were, and which line these people belong to. Thanks for anyone who has a clue *S* Sue

----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Henderson To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: queiries from kay henderson I have 3 questions; 1.During the period of 1815 who was the land owner of the Dhuible area of Kildonan. Does anyone have a contact address for the archive dept. of that estate? 2. I am interested to find information about the split in the Sutherland's, that had something to do with Adam Gordon. How easy is it to trace family members through this division? 3 .Does any one have information about the Melville Family- George Melville and Margaret Grant Married 2nd Fed 1855. I understand that Margaret came from Kildonan, any information would be gratefully received

----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Henderson To: SCT-SUTHERLAND Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: clyne school board 1897 Rev. J. Spark, M.A. Chairman Mr John M'Leod, Mr. J. Ross Gibson, Mr Goe.Adams, Clerk and Treasurer, Mr. D Simpson, Compulsory Officer. TEACHING STAFF Clyne School -Mr Hugh Gunn, M.A., Haedmaster, Mr Angus Gunn, M.A. Assistant, Mr.R.S.MacKay, Assistant, Miss Maggie Ross, Assistant, Miss H. Baillie, Pupil Teacher , Miss C. Sutherland,Sewing Mistress Brora Infant School -Miss M'Donald, Mistress, Miss Ina Ross, Assistant Doll School - Mr James Craigie. MissMcBeath, Sewing Mistress Strathbrora school -Mrs M'Callum, Ben-Armine School - Mr.Mm. M'Pherson Bursaries won by Clyne School pupils in 1897 HIGHLAND TRUST (CONTINUATION) BURSARY JOHN M'HARDY " " " JAMES BAILLIE HIGHLAND TRUST BURSARY CHRISTINA M'KAY " " " MARION M'KAY " " " ALEXR. SUTHERLAND COUNTY COUNCIL (COUNTY) BURSARY JOHN M'HARDY " " " " JAMES BAILLIE " " (PARISH) " ANGUS BAILLIE M'PHAIL BURSARY ALEXR. SUTHERLAND HIGHER GRADE LEAVING CERT. 10 LOWER " " " 20 MERIT " " " 2

----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Henderson To: SCT-SUTHERLAND Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: 93 rd foot WO12 9398 1st battallion led by sgt. Major Hugh Brown, also Capt. Sam Brown led 1st co. Dec 1805 stationed at Hottentots Holland Cape or Good Hope 1806 in Cape Town until 1808 stationed in Mellen Boych There had been a Brora Co. during Aug 1798 - Sept. 1798

******************************************************************************************************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************* Whitehill between 'Crackaig' and the Kirk of Loth Malcolm Dundee, Scotland -----Original Message----- From: SheilaMMackay@aol.com [mailto:SheilaMMackay@aol.com] Sent: 22 March 2003 15:27 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] Where is Whitehill? Hi Celeste, This was in the Northern Times of 16 December 1915. Mrs. Gordon, Whitehill, Loth received word from the War Office on Monday that her son Sergeant Donald Gordon, Cameron Highlanders was Killed In Action on September 25th. He acted as postman for the district for a number of years and afterwards emigrated to Canada. He was a reservist in the Cameron Highlanders and rejoined his regiment at the outbreak of the war. He had taken part in a number of engagements. This may be your Whitehill - I certainly can't find it on any maps that I have of the Loth Area. These articles are particularly poignant at this time. Sheila Mackay Edinburgh Scotland ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237>

Properly, antenuptial - from "ante" = before. (Anti=against). Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angi Lamb" <angigael@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23 March 2003 19:23 Subject: Re: [SUT] Legal term? Durness Free Church records used "antinuptial" Angi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: [SUT] Legal term? > I need a term to describe a child born before the marriage of his/her > parents but who is presumably automatically legitimised by the > marriage. I have thought of 'pre-nuptial' but wonder if this is > self-explanatory or, better still, if there's already an accepted > term. > > This state of affairs has happened more than once in my family. > > Sara > (Wales) > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

-----Original Message----- From: Janet Revill [mailto:jrevill@global.net.au] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:22 AM Subject: Fw: McLEOD/McDONALD of Lairg & Tain I am determined to find my Highland family this year, so please help me. Robert MACLEOD and Ann MCDONALD - I cannot find a marriage Children: Margaret bapt at Lairg 19 Jan 1836, (Ferry House Lairg) Williamina bapt at Tain 3 Feb 1838, (High Mill Farm Tain) John bapt at Tain 13 Sept 1840. (High Mill Farm Tain) Robert was a pensioner and there are two Robert MACLEOD on the PRO list of pensioners either one could be mine (or not!). Margaret 15 and John 10 are in the 1851 census as being in the East Ross Union Poorhouse, however there is no Williamina, Robert or Ann. I have not found a death for Robert or Ann. Williamina (my gtgtgrandmother) and Margaret came to Australia in 1861, they both married in Melbourne and I have so much information on them after arriving there. John was sent to trade in March 1855 and have no idea what happened to him. There is a Williamina McLEOD (aged 15) in Croich in the 1851 Census index although the age is a year out. Would it be possible for someone to check if she was born in Tain; she is probably a servant. Any help I can get would be most appreciated and I am happy to do lookups in return. Janet in hot and sunny Perth Western Australia PS I have been receiving okay --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003

Ian Regarding children baptised in Clyne parish when they did not live there. This did happen. Sometimes the eldest child was baptised in the mother's home parish. Also at the time of church disturbance or unrest many people were known to take their children to neighbouring parishes for baptism. Perhaps a minister they preferred? Cannot recall exactly where I read this but it did happen. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Just Imagine [mailto:tripetwo@yahoo.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 1:02 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] Local Militia List, William Ross Ian, According to www.whoownsscotland.org, Cambusmore is a 14,220 acre estate [which was recently sold - see also www.thefrasers.com/nessie/news/nesspapr060802.html] located north of Dornoch and Embo, just west of Loch Fleet. I found it using both www.streetmap.co.uk and multimap.com. Trish --- I McLean <mcleani@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Trish, > The IGI has 2 more children for this family, > Alexandrina and William George, > also it has Baillie as William's second name, which > I am guessing is a > family name, possibly his mother's. > The IGI notes state this information was submitted > by an LDS Church member > however I found Alexandrina's birth (in 1830) in the > Clyne Parish Register > of Births, which makes me think the LDS Church > member obtained the > information from local parish records. > Has anyone else had a similar experience with the > IGI? > > Also would you know where Cambusmore was in > Sutherland, I can't find it in > my Gazetteer of Scotland. > > Thanks, > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Just Imagine" <tripetwo@yahoo.ca> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: [SUT] Local Militia List > > > > Ian, > > > > You probably know that William's middle name was > > Baillie? I don't know where I got this information > > from [should be referencing my sources > obviously!]. > > William's wife Georgina would have been a niece > and > > cousin to my REED ancestors. They had at least 2 > > children, Elizabeth and Gabriel. > > > > Have you looked William up in > scottishdocuments.com? I > > think he could be the one listed as William ROSS, > > surgeon at Cambusmore, Sutherland. The record is > dated > > 1847, filed at Dornoch Sheriff Court and is 5 > pages > > long [in my experience, the actual number usually > > turns out to be less but you get someone else's > pages > > thrown in]. > > > > I'd be most interested in whatever you find out > about > > William and Georgina. Good luck. > > > > Trish > > Toronto > > > > --- SCT-SUTHERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:13:04 +1100 > > > From: "I McLean" <mcleani@optusnet.com.au> > > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [SUT] Local Militia List > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I noticed the surgeon for the Local Militia list > > > assembled for training at > > > Dornoch in 1813 was William Ross. By 1828 he > was > > > Assistant Surgeon of 7th > > > Dragoon Guards and married Georgina Reed in the > same > > > year. Georgina was the > > > daughter of Gabriel Reed who had the sheep farm > at > > > Kilcalmkill. > > > Can anyone tell me anything more about William > Ross > > > and his family? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ian > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003

Thanks, Angi, that seems to fit the bill! Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angi Lamb" <angigael@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] Legal term? > Durness Free Church records used "antinuptial" > > Angi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:51 PM > Subject: [SUT] Legal term? > > > > I need a term to describe a child born before the marriage of his/her > > parents but who is presumably automatically legitimised by the > > marriage. I have thought of 'pre-nuptial' but wonder if this is > > self-explanatory or, better still, if there's already an accepted > > term. > > > > This state of affairs has happened more than once in my family. > > > > Sara > > (Wales) > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > To check out previous messages > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Durness Free Church records used "antinuptial" Angi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: [SUT] Legal term? > I need a term to describe a child born before the marriage of his/her > parents but who is presumably automatically legitimised by the > marriage. I have thought of 'pre-nuptial' but wonder if this is > self-explanatory or, better still, if there's already an accepted > term. > > This state of affairs has happened more than once in my family. > > Sara > (Wales) > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, Could anyone please help me find a Parish map of Caithness. I have tried the Caithness list but with no success. Ordnance Survey don't even seem to have one, but I know there is one out there somewhere as I have seen it in the past before I started my tree, but cannot remember where. I am currently researching the families of Donald SINCLAIR (b. 1-4-1871 Latheron) stuck with his father and grandfather. Also the parents of Alex COGHILL (b. <1880> married to Mary THAIN ( 1885 Wick). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Bye for now Richard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 13/03/2003

or here http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/parmaps.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <rtstodd@btopenworld.com> To: <sct-sutherland-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: [SUT] caithness parish map > Hi all, > Could anyone please help me find a Parish map of Caithness. > I have tried the Caithness list but with no success. Ordnance Survey don't > even seem to have one, but I know there is one out there somewhere as I have > seen it in the past before I started my tree, but cannot remember where. > I am currently researching the families of Donald SINCLAIR (b. 1-4-1871 > Latheron) stuck with his father and grandfather. Also the parents of Alex > COGHILL (b. <1880> married to Mary THAIN ( 1885 Wick). > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Many thanks. > Bye for now > Richard > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 13/03/2003 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >