I have a distant male MURRAY......perhaps Alexander of Sutherlandshire, but I heard this story many years ago. Just prior to 1938, my father George Alexander MURRAY II (1906-1965)gave railroad fare to his father George Alexander MURRAY (1861-1938) to 'see the pipes for one last time'. The 'pipes' were in the custody of grandfather's brother Gilbert MURRAY (1864-x), in Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA. They were two sons of Robert P MURRAY (1821-1896) of Suthlandshire and Annie nee Matheson MURRAY (1835-1886) of West Zorra Township, Ontario, Canada. All seven children were born in Zorra Township. These bag pipes were an honorary presentation from a high English noble (king?) to a g? g grandfather who was a 'Piper Major in the Gordon Highlanders'. I hate to gilt this story TOO much, but I was told they were 'gold plated'. Does any part of this story make sense? George Alexander MURRAY ||| Kalispell, Montana, USA 59903-2176

The Old Parish Register of Dornoch shows the death of a Charlotte Mackay, wife of Alexander Sutherland, pensioner, of Skibo. She died aged 33 on 21 September 1836. She suffered from consumption. Does anyone know this couple? Any information at all would be helpful. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003

I have been busy preparing our book. It is a pleasant task as I am enjoying the stories sent in by many of you. Some really good photographs also. The book holds promise of being really good but we still need more stories. If you have not yet written your tale and wish to please do so. I feel it would be better to delay completion to make the book worthwhile rather than complete now when it is ‘good but incomplete’. Perhaps many of you have the stories to tell but feel you cannot write well enough for inclusion in a book? I have found many people on this list who have the ability to write well and many others who have a story to tell – shall we try to match them up and create more stories? If you feel you fall into one or other of these categories please let us know and we will see what we can do. To the best of my knowledge there has never been a book like this – there are many books on different areas but none specifically on those who left Sutherland and spread their wings across the world. Finding descendants of those who left Sutherland and started a new life in countries overseas should be easy through this list! What do you think? Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003

Hello all, don't panic.... I just read it properly, it appears to be only the keyword search feature being withdrawn! .....cut & pasted from the website..... Removal of the keyword searching feature from April 2003 The search feature that allows searching of the complete text for keywords or groups of words will be withdrawn from the standard service of the Statistical Accounts of Scotland on 31st March 2003. This is intended to boost the number of individuals and institutions subscribing to the enhanced service, thereby providing funding for the continuation and development of the entire service. ChristineR Vic Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Stokes <rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: RE: [SUT] Such a deal. Not much time left. > This is such a shame. The on line version of the Statistical Accounts of > Scotland were brilliant. Their subscription costs are very high so guess we > better all get in there before the 31st of March! > > Christine > Northamptonshire, England > www.highlandhearts.com > www.sutherlandheritage.com > email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: George A Murray [mailto:cte44694@nw.centurytel.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:49 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SUT] Such a deal. Not much time left. > > I have just notice that the free text searches will end March 31st, 2003, > so get thee hence to: > > http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/stat-acc-scot.asp?session-id= > 0864e3cdc5c80c351707716b694e6182 > > gam > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks George for this really interesting site. Celeste

Just checking as I haven't had mail for 3 days. Looking for JAMES MACKAY married MARY MCKAY( born 1811) DURNESS 1834. Andy Mackay,

has anyone come across a Cameron family in Sutherland ? Theresa

G'day Davie Clear as mud mate :) but I'll find a map now that I know the area to look and hopefully I'll locate it. Many thanks for your help. Regards Lori Australia -----Original Message----- From: Davie MacLeod [mailto:davie_54uk@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:46 AM To: Lori Fletcher; SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] George? Mackay of Tarboll of Rogart Torboll is a farm to the south of the river fleet. It is now part of Cambusmore estates and can be found on the map of area on road bearing right at the mound ending at bonar bridge. It is near rogart but Rogart is too the North of the river Fleet and on road to Lairg Hope this is a help and makes sense. Davie

Can anyone help me transcribe the name of the registrar at Durine, Durness? He was there from at least 1884 to 1888. It looks like Faquil Nielson. Thanks Claire Atkinson

Torboll is a farm to the south of the river fleet. It is now part of Cambusmore estates and can be found on the map of area on road bearing right at the mound ending at bonar bridge. It is near rogart but Rogart is too the North of the river Fleet and on road to Lairg Hope this is a help and makes sense. Davie

Hi Christine and thank you for such a quick response. The information I have comes from a diary of an ancestor written in the mid to late 1800's. It could be Torboll but I'm pretty sure it's an A. And I omitted the vitally necessary time frame! mid 1700's. The earlier Robertson's came from Ross and Cromarty but Francis was a schoolmaster of Tain and Minister at Clyne. I don't know if the Mackay's are related to him or his wife Jane nee Sutherland or even via one of their children. Yes please I would like to see the info on the Mackay/Robertson connection at Muie. Regards Lori Australia -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:13 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] George? Mackay of Tarboll of Rogart Tarboll of Rogart is a new one on me. Where did you get the name? Is it a very old document? Robertson is a very rare name in Rogart but there was a Mackay family with Robertson connections at Muie. Although not the names you mention. If you wish to see them let me know. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fletcher [mailto:loribyn@corplink.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:46 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] George? Mackay of Tarboll of Rogart Greetings all I've finally found a very distant connection to the Mackay family. Can anyone relate to the above Mackay's who had a relative named Margaret Robertson daughter of Rev Francis Robertson and Jane Sutherland? Regards Lori Australia ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ooooops - rectified. Thanks. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk [mailto:Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:30 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] Major Clunes (or Cluness) **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** a very minor detail: he fell off Brora bridge Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 26 March 2003 16:10 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] Major Clunes (or Cluness) Some information on Major Clunes - if you think you are related let me know and I can put you in touch with a descendant who lives in Australia. Thomas MURRAY and Christian MUNRO had the following children born at Embo, Dornoch (OPR): JAMES, born 13 December 1791; ELSPAT, born 3 February 1798 [died 4 March 1873 spinster] (DC); twin MARGARET, born 3 February 1798; twins HUGH and WILLIAM, born 6 March 1801 and CATHERINE, born 5 May 1803. In 1851, 1861 and 1871 Elspet was in Dornoch. In 1861 Margaret, was with her. Margaret's granddaughter, Mary MacMillan, was also with them. Margaret Murray would appear to be the Margaret who had an illegitimate daughter, Christian Clynes, who was born in Dornoch in 1827 and later baptised in Wick, Caitnness, in 1830. The entry in the Wick parish register states "Gordon Clunes from the parish of Loth in the County of Sutherland at present residing in this parish had by Margaret Murray in the parish of Dornoch in said County an illegitimate daughter born 29 January 1827 and baptised Christina." Gordon and Margaret also had a son, Alexander, born in 1824. Gordon Clunes later married a Betsy McPherson by whom he also had two further children. Gordon Clunes, a slater, died in Helmsdale on 14 February 1890. His death certificate states that he was the illegitimate son of Captain Gordon Clunes. Christian Clunes married Ewen MacMillan from Ross and the couple lived around Dornoch until they emigrated to Queensland, Australia, in 1854. "The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era." The first Cluness who lived at Crackaig, Loth, came from Ross-shire. He was factor to the Earl of Sutherland. His son, who succeeded him as factor, had two sons, Gordon and John. Gordon entered the army, and rose to the rank of colonel. He had three sons, Archibald, William and Gordon. Archibald died in the West Indies. William was major in the army. He was a tall, stout and handsome man. He retired from the army at quite an early age. He resided at Crackaig where he died in 1829. Gordon, youngest son of Colonel Cluness, was a captain in the army. He and his horse tumbled off Bonar Bridge and drowned in 1811. From this it would seem that the younger Gordon Clunes was the Captain who fathered the illegitmate Gordon Clunes who in turn fathered the children of Margaret Murray. Christine Northamptonshire, England -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Campbell Books [mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca] <mailto:[mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca]> Hello! Through my family research, I have found that my ancestors had crofts in the Strath of Kildonan on "Major Cluness' lot" . I have found one reference to this man in the biography of Patrick Sellar (regarding a letter about the barking of trees). I would be interested in learning more about him and exactly what his role was in relation to the Duke of Sutherland and the Kildonan Clearances. I found his name in correspondence between Angus Matheson and Lord Selkirk in March of 1815. The crofts concerned were at Auldbreach (I've found a brook named Allt Breac on maps) and tenanted by Angus' mother (referred to as Widow Matheson - who was she?) and another of her sons, Alexander Matheson and his family. I don't have the letters in front of me at this time, but I believe her daughter Helen and a man surnamed Polson are mentioned as living with her (her brother perhaps?). I think there is also mention of another daughter and her husband, also Polsons, living on the Major's lot (same one?) at nearby Torrish. I am pretty new to this genealogy thing, and I'd be grateful for any information. Elizabeth Campbell ecbooks@voyageur.ca <mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca> ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003

From Memorabilia Domestica "Colonel Cluness was the lineal descendant------- had 3 sons and 5 daughters ----Major William Cluness was giant of a man -------he was among the first who took extensive sheep farms in th parish of Kildonan ----- from the lower part of the Strath toCnoc-an -Eirreannaich on the boundaries of Caithness,constituted the store farm ---- he never married and died in 1829." about 1&1/2 pages about this family Hope this helps Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Campbell Books <ecbooks@voyageur.ca> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: [SUT] Major Clunes (or Cluness) > Hello! > I'm new to the list and this is my first posting - hope I'm doing this > right (I didn't... this is a resend)! > > Through my family research, I have found that my ancestors had crofts in > the Strath of Kildonan on "Major Cluness' lot" . I have found one > reference to this man in the biography of Patrick Sellar (regarding a > letter about the barking of trees). I would be interested in learning > more about him and exactly what his role was in relation to the Duke of > Sutherland and the Kildonan Clearances. I found his name in > correspondence between Angus Matheson and Lord Selkirk in March of 1815. > The crofts concerned were at Auldbreach (I've found a brook named Allt > Breac on maps) and tenanted by Angus' mother (referred to as Widow > Matheson - who was she?) and another of her sons, Alexander Matheson and > his family. I don't have the letters in front of me at this time, but I > believe her daughter Helen and a man surnamed Polson are mentioned as > living with her (her brother perhaps?). I think there is also mention > of another daughter and her husband, also Polsons, living on the Major's > lot (same one?) at nearby Torrish. > > I am pretty new to this genealogy thing, and I'd be grateful for any > information. > > Elizabeth Campbell > ecbooks@voyageur.ca > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Greetings all I've finally found a very distant connection to the Mackay family. Can anyone relate to the above Mackay's who had a relative named Margaret Robertson daughter of Rev Francis Robertson and Jane Sutherland? Regards Lori Australia

******************************************************************************************************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************* a very minor detail: he fell off Brora bridge Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 26 March 2003 16:10 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] Major Clunes (or Cluness) Some information on Major Clunes - if you think you are related let me know and I can put you in touch with a descendant who lives in Australia. Thomas MURRAY and Christian MUNRO had the following children born at Embo, Dornoch (OPR): JAMES, born 13 December 1791; ELSPAT, born 3 February 1798 [died 4 March 1873 spinster] (DC); twin MARGARET, born 3 February 1798; twins HUGH and WILLIAM, born 6 March 1801 and CATHERINE, born 5 May 1803. In 1851, 1861 and 1871 Elspet was in Dornoch. In 1861 Margaret, was with her. Margaret's granddaughter, Mary MacMillan, was also with them. Margaret Murray would appear to be the Margaret who had an illegitimate daughter, Christian Clynes, who was born in Dornoch in 1827 and later baptised in Wick, Caitnness, in 1830. The entry in the Wick parish register states "Gordon Clunes from the parish of Loth in the County of Sutherland at present residing in this parish had by Margaret Murray in the parish of Dornoch in said County an illegitimate daughter born 29 January 1827 and baptised Christina." Gordon and Margaret also had a son, Alexander, born in 1824. Gordon Clunes later married a Betsy McPherson by whom he also had two further children. Gordon Clunes, a slater, died in Helmsdale on 14 February 1890. His death certificate states that he was the illegitimate son of Captain Gordon Clunes. Christian Clunes married Ewen MacMillan from Ross and the couple lived around Dornoch until they emigrated to Queensland, Australia, in 1854. "The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era." The first Cluness who lived at Crackaig, Loth, came from Ross-shire. He was factor to the Earl of Sutherland. His son, who succeeded him as factor, had two sons, Gordon and John. Gordon entered the army, and rose to the rank of colonel. He had three sons, Archibald, William and Gordon. Archibald died in the West Indies. William was major in the army. He was a tall, stout and handsome man. He retired from the army at quite an early age. He resided at Crackaig where he died in 1829. Gordon, youngest son of Colonel Cluness, was a captain in the army. He and his horse tumbled off Bonar Bridge and drowned in 1811. From this it would seem that the younger Gordon Clunes was the Captain who fathered the illegitmate Gordon Clunes who in turn fathered the children of Margaret Murray. Christine Northamptonshire, England -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Campbell Books [mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca] <mailto:[mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca]> Hello! Through my family research, I have found that my ancestors had crofts in the Strath of Kildonan on "Major Cluness' lot" . I have found one reference to this man in the biography of Patrick Sellar (regarding a letter about the barking of trees). I would be interested in learning more about him and exactly what his role was in relation to the Duke of Sutherland and the Kildonan Clearances. I found his name in correspondence between Angus Matheson and Lord Selkirk in March of 1815. The crofts concerned were at Auldbreach (I've found a brook named Allt Breac on maps) and tenanted by Angus' mother (referred to as Widow Matheson - who was she?) and another of her sons, Alexander Matheson and his family. I don't have the letters in front of me at this time, but I believe her daughter Helen and a man surnamed Polson are mentioned as living with her (her brother perhaps?). I think there is also mention of another daughter and her husband, also Polsons, living on the Major's lot (same one?) at nearby Torrish. I am pretty new to this genealogy thing, and I'd be grateful for any information. Elizabeth Campbell ecbooks@voyageur.ca <mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca>

Some information on Major Clunes - if you think you are related let me know and I can put you in touch with a descendant who lives in Australia. Thomas MURRAY and Christian MUNRO had the following children born at Embo, Dornoch (OPR): JAMES, born 13 December 1791; ELSPAT, born 3 February 1798 [died 4 March 1873 spinster] (DC); twin MARGARET, born 3 February 1798; twins HUGH and WILLIAM, born 6 March 1801 and CATHERINE, born 5 May 1803. In 1851, 1861 and 1871 Elspet was in Dornoch. In 1861 Margaret, was with her. Margaret's granddaughter, Mary MacMillan, was also with them. Margaret Murray would appear to be the Margaret who had an illegitimate daughter, Christian Clynes, who was born in Dornoch in 1827 and later baptised in Wick, Caitnness, in 1830. The entry in the Wick parish register states "Gordon Clunes from the parish of Loth in the County of Sutherland at present residing in this parish had by Margaret Murray in the parish of Dornoch in said County an illegitimate daughter born 29 January 1827 and baptised Christina." Gordon and Margaret also had a son, Alexander, born in 1824. Gordon Clunes later married a Betsy McPherson by whom he also had two further children. Gordon Clunes, a slater, died in Helmsdale on 14 February 1890. His death certificate states that he was the illegitimate son of Captain Gordon Clunes. Christian Clunes married Ewen MacMillan from Ross and the couple lived around Dornoch until they emigrated to Queensland, Australia, in 1854. "The Clunes clan in Sutherland all descend from Clunes of Neilston near Cromarty. They suffered terrible losses from Rebel troops in 1746 but, surviving financial difficulties in the 1750s, they later successfully made the transition from Highland tacksmen to large farmers in the post Clearance era." The first Cluness who lived at Crackaig, Loth, came from Ross-shire. He was factor to the Earl of Sutherland. His son, who succeeded him as factor, had two sons, Gordon and John. Gordon entered the army, and rose to the rank of colonel. He had three sons, Archibald, William and Gordon. Archibald died in the West Indies. William was major in the army. He was a tall, stout and handsome man. He retired from the army at quite an early age. He resided at Crackaig where he died in 1829. Gordon, youngest son of Colonel Cluness, was a captain in the army. He and his horse tumbled off Bonar Bridge and drowned in 1811. From this it would seem that the younger Gordon Clunes was the Captain who fathered the illegitmate Gordon Clunes who in turn fathered the children of Margaret Murray. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Campbell Books [mailto:ecbooks@voyageur.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:42 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] Major Clunes (or Cluness) Hello! I'm new to the list and this is my first posting - hope I'm doing this right (I didn't... this is a resend)! Through my family research, I have found that my ancestors had crofts in the Strath of Kildonan on "Major Cluness' lot" . I have found one reference to this man in the biography of Patrick Sellar (regarding a letter about the barking of trees). I would be interested in learning more about him and exactly what his role was in relation to the Duke of Sutherland and the Kildonan Clearances. I found his name in correspondence between Angus Matheson and Lord Selkirk in March of 1815. The crofts concerned were at Auldbreach (I've found a brook named Allt Breac on maps) and tenanted by Angus' mother (referred to as Widow Matheson - who was she?) and another of her sons, Alexander Matheson and his family. I don't have the letters in front of me at this time, but I believe her daughter Helen and a man surnamed Polson are mentioned as living with her (her brother perhaps?). I think there is also mention of another daughter and her husband, also Polsons, living on the Major's lot (same one?) at nearby Torrish. I am pretty new to this genealogy thing, and I'd be grateful for any information. Elizabeth Campbell ecbooks@voyageur.ca ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003

I have now found the term 'antenuptial fornication' in a quote from a parish record. All you Scots speakers will be more familiar with the term 'hochmagandy' as in the phrase: 'ye cannae beat a bit of the old hochmagandy' (Collins Gem Scots Dictionary) Sara

> Hi Kay , > > I printed off several sheets of Melville births & marriages from the IGI > yesterday and a George MELVILLE and Margaret GRANT had a son, Hector on 13th > June, 1869 in Clyne. C110453 is the batch number. > > Cheers, > Dorothy on Vancouver Island searching for MELVILLEs, McKAYs , CLUNES. Others > through marriage with MELVILLEs - MURRAYs, SUTHERLANDs , BREMNERs , HENSONs > , WILLIAMSONs etc. > > > All E-mails checked by AVG anti virus programme > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Henderson" <kenderson@bigfoot.com> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:02 AM > Subject: [SUT] Fw: queiries > > 3 .Does any one have information about the Melville Family- George > Melville and Margaret Grant Married 2nd Fed 1855. I understand that Margaret > came from Kildonan, any information would be gratefully received > > > > ______________________________ >

Hello! I'm new to the list and this is my first posting - hope I'm doing this right (I didn't... this is a resend)! Through my family research, I have found that my ancestors had crofts in the Strath of Kildonan on "Major Cluness' lot" . I have found one reference to this man in the biography of Patrick Sellar (regarding a letter about the barking of trees). I would be interested in learning more about him and exactly what his role was in relation to the Duke of Sutherland and the Kildonan Clearances. I found his name in correspondence between Angus Matheson and Lord Selkirk in March of 1815. The crofts concerned were at Auldbreach (I've found a brook named Allt Breac on maps) and tenanted by Angus' mother (referred to as Widow Matheson - who was she?) and another of her sons, Alexander Matheson and his family. I don't have the letters in front of me at this time, but I believe her daughter Helen and a man surnamed Polson are mentioned as living with her (her brother perhaps?). I think there is also mention of another daughter and her husband, also Polsons, living on the Major's lot (same one?) at nearby Torrish. I am pretty new to this genealogy thing, and I'd be grateful for any information. Elizabeth Campbell ecbooks@voyageur.ca

Tarboll of Rogart is a new one on me. Where did you get the name? Is it a very old document? Robertson is a very rare name in Rogart but there was a Mackay family with Robertson connections at Muie. Although not the names you mention. If you wish to see them let me know. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fletcher [mailto:loribyn@corplink.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:46 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUT] George? Mackay of Tarboll of Rogart Greetings all I've finally found a very distant connection to the Mackay family. Can anyone relate to the above Mackay's who had a relative named Margaret Robertson daughter of Rev Francis Robertson and Jane Sutherland? Regards Lori Australia ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003