Hello all, Today I viewed the reel for Rogart at our local LDS centre. Is it possible that the records for this era (Late 1700's- middle 1800's) were rewritten, years ago? The reason I ask is that there was a set of records, fairly well kept, and then a second on what appeared to be on smaller paper that were quite poorly done and water damaged, with the same information. The records, of certain family members, started in 1795. There is a record of a William born to James Sutherland and Katherine Campbell,residing at Craggy Strath Brora(I believe this is the place) on April 8, 1795. The second record is for Duncan born to James Sutherland and Katherine Campbell, Dalreavoch, on February 26, 1797. Some questions then came to mind. Would it be reasonable to assume that this was the same couple(James and Katherine) living at different locations? How far apart are these locations? I know there was a daughter, but alas, there is no record for her. She was supposed to have emigrated with Duncan and their mother, Katherine, to Pictou County, Nova Scotia in 1831. I have no information for William. Can anyone shed some light on this? Donald Lee Sutherland, Hamilton, Ontario _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

I too would love to hear what others do as I still feel "so green" at my knowledge collection and storage. Must have a better look at Legacy - maybe I am missing something ! When I see names even remotely interesting now I am saving - just incase it becomes a lead at some later stage. I have created an Excel spreadsheet for this purpose and find it makes things easier when doing a search. Pam >>> <Epaxton@aol.com> 04/15/03 02:12pm >>> As I build up my records and data, I'm looking for advice/comment as to how others store theirs. I presently use the freeware from Ancestry.com and Legacy to keep my 'tree' up to date, but how does that compare with other systems? Does anyone have Family Tree or other systems? Is it good or better than the freeware? I've recently managed to obtain lots of family pics from cousins, so I eventually want to have some stored with my tree. Any views on that? Sorry if this is a little 'off-topic' edward ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I heartily recommend Legacy. It is one of the best, maybe even the best, programme available. I have tried many, Family Tree maker, generations etc., but this is the best. You can download free the basic programme at www.legacy.com There are upgrades available and well worth the small amount of money they cost. Edward can even save his photographs in Legacy and everything is there in the correct place. I even scanned in copies of birth certificates, etc. Regarding those who are not on your tree - this is more difficult - some people use Excel spreadsheets etc. I use my own method laid out in Microsoft Word. It is easy to update and can be read by most computers. Hope this helps. Will be interesting to see what others use. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Epaxton@aol.com [mailto:Epaxton@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:12 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] Storing records As I build up my records and data, I'm looking for advice/comment as to how others store theirs. I presently use the freeware from Ancestry.com and Legacy to keep my 'tree' up to date, but how does that compare with other systems? Does anyone have Family Tree or other systems? Is it good or better than the freeware? I've recently managed to obtain lots of family pics from cousins, so I eventually want to have some stored with my tree. Any views on that? Sorry if this is a little 'off-topic' edward ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003

Hi Everyone, >From the Old Parish Register 47/1 Dornoch Co of Sutherland I have the Birth details for Helen Sutherland, 18 June 1804, daughter of Alexr Sutherland and Marrion McKay from Pronsy. Does anyone know anything further about these parents or possible siblings. Regards, Judy. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Malcolm What a wonderful piece of information on Alexander Bannerman. As you can see below he did not emigrate after all. From a poor man he seems to have completed his life in a much better state. Sheila Mackay, Edinburgh, has this family on her own tree. She will be thrilled with this new information especially the link to Inchcape which is where her immediate family were. ALEXANDER BANNERMAN [c1820-9/8/1912] married SARAH GUNN [21/11/1825-13/9/1904] Alexander was born circa 1820 in Loth or Kildonan to John Bannerman crofter and Catherine Sutherland. Sarah was born at Fourpenny, Dornoch in 1825 daughter of Gilbert Gunn, mason and Helen Gray. Alexander and Sarah married at Pitfure, Rogart on 11 February 1848. They had the following children all born at West Helmsdale, Kildonan, except the youngest two who were born at East Langwell, Rogart: JOHN born circa 1849 [died 28 August 1928 Meigle Perthshire] [married firstly to Elizabeth Mollison and secondly to Jemima Meiklejohn]; GILBERT born 1851 [died May 1927 Wisconsin USA] [married Mary Julia Parrent]; WILLIAM born circa 1852 [died 29 April 1911 Glasgow] [married firstly to Mary Ann Mollison and secondly to Margaret Ferguson Hucheson]; CATHERINE born circa 1854 [died 31 March 1907 Blairmore Rogart] [married William Mackenzie]; ROBERT born 11 March 1856 [died 10 October 1936 Glasgow] [married Rachel Morrison]; DONALD born 12 February 1858; GEORGE GUNN born 18 December 1859 [died 21 February 1919 Hawick] [married Mary McBurnie Greenwood]; DAVID born 29 October 1861; HELEN GRAY born 6 September 1864 [died 26 August 1940 Bonar Bridge - a nurse and single]; ALEXANDER born 15 October 1866 [died 27 October 1945 Tain] [married Christina Margaret Ross]; CHRISTINA born 12 December 1868] [died 27 September 1881 Rogart] and THOMAS GUNN born 29 January 1872] [died 12 December 1935 Dundee] [married Jessie Ann Henderson]. In the 1851 census at West Helmsdale Alexander, shown as a crofter, and Sarah were at home with their children John and Gilbert. A Sarah Mackenzie, age 18, born in Rogart was their general servant and they had a nurse aged 12 years, Margaret Polson of Kildonan. In 1861 still in West Helmsdale Alexander was shown as a lotter of three acres. John and Gilbert were with him and Sarah plus Catherine, Donald and George. They now had a Margaret Sutherland of Kildonan as a domestic servant. The house had two rooms with windows. By 1871 the family were at East Langwell, Rogart having gone there in 1867, where Alexander was a crofter of 22 acres, ten of which were arable. He and Sarah had William, Catherine, Donald, George, David, Helen, Alexnader and Christina at home. This new house had four rooms with windows. Still at East Langwell in 1881 Alexander's holding had increased to fourteen acres arable and he was now shown as a farmer. With him and Sarah were their children Robert, Ellen, Alexander, Christina and Thomas. They had a visitor from Glasgow, a Walter Gunn aged 4 years. The house had grown to seven rooms with windows. In both the 1891 and 1901 census records at East Langwell Alexander was not at home. His wife Sarah was and in 1891 her son Alexander was with her and in 1901 her daughter Helen, son Alexander with his wife Christina and their children were with her. Around 1904 the family left East Langwell and returned to the Brora area. Alexander died in 1912. The 'Northern Times' printed an obituary which read: "It was with extreme regret we have to record the death under tragic circumstances of Mr Alexander Bannerman J.P., Clynemilton, Brora. Mr Bannerman was out for his usual walk on Friday morning last and made several calls on his way home, and while on the highway at the foot of his own farm, and walking along, was overtaken and run over by the foremost of two cars from Clynelish on their way to John O'Groats. Mr Bannerman was caught by the mudguard and knocked down, receiving fatal injuries, his hat was found on one side of the road and his staff on the other. When aid waas rendered it was found that life was extinct, and it is presumed that death was instantaneous. The deceased had reached the patriarchal age of ninety two years. Mr Bannerman was a native of Helmsdale and went to Langwell, Rogart, in 1867. During his residence in Rogart the deceased took a very prominent part in the land agitation in that district and throughout the county. He was familiar and popular at all political meetings and he always attended the Highland Land League Conference as delegate for the Parish of Rogart. After the passing of the Education Act of 1872 Mr Bannerman was elected to the School Board of Rogart of which he was Chairman until he left for Brora eight years ago. He was repeatedly elected to the Parochial Board and was a member of the Parish Council. He was for many years President of the Liberal Association and for a considerable period Vice President of the County Liberal Association. The funeral of Mr Bannerman took place on Monday. There was a large turnout of farmers and crofters..... a funeral service was conducted at his house . . . the coffin was carried to Brora Railway Station and conveyed by the 11 o'clock train to Rogart where a very large number of parishioners were awating to convey the remains to the churchyard at Rogart, the burial place of the family." Information supplied by Sheila Mackay Edinburgh. Jerry and Maggie Mackay, Virginia, USA, are researching this family. If anyone reading this links to this family please ask me for email addresses for Sheila and Maggie. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk [mailto:Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:01 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] 1863 emigrants John Macdonald and Alexander Bannerman West Helmsd ale **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. **************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** 1863 Mar 6 Reports by John R Forbes ground officer on emigrants (nos refer to crofts) "No. 139 John McDonald Wr. Helmsdale - Intending to Emigrate to the Cape of Good hope John McDonald aged 39 - & his wife 40 - has a Lot of 4 acres - 2 of which is new land rent £4 1 4 full vallue The dwelling House is good altho out of repair inside - he was a widower with 2 of a famly [sic] & She the widow of the former Tenant had 2 Children they have one of ther Own, which makes a famly of 5 - 3 Girls & 2 Boys The Eldest is 13 & the Youngest One yr. They are allways hard up & unable to pay there rent at the proper time. There House is poorly furnished & they have but one cow & no horse. They are all Strong and Healthy & likely to do well" "No. 108 Alex Bannerman Wr. Helmsdale Intending to Emigrate to the Cape of Good Hope This man Pays £4 1 4 former rent £2 Extent of land 31/2 acres - 2 of which is new partly improved by himself the rest by the Father, who came from Ulbisdale Strath of Kildonan, & was one of the old Sutherland Fencibles - died in 1847 - his son married in 1848 a daughter of the late Gilbert Gunn's Inchkep Rogard they have 8 of a famly 7 Boys and one Girl from 14 years old to one year - he is a labourer or Carter by trade, but never Can get Steady Employment & Altho poor is a very active intiligent [sic] & hard working man and a thorough Loyal Subject being the nearly first who Entered his name in the Hl. V. A [Helmsdale Volunteer Artillery] - he has been for some time in Charge of the wood in the Strath The Lot is at full value & the Houses are old & worthless, his Stock is an old Horse & cow. There is an Elder Sister of His who lives on the premises & does not go with them. His age 39 yrs her Ae 32" Weeks later transpired that there was a lack of colonial funds: severe drought, crops suffered, revenue short. Emigrants must remain for present. [Not known if ever emigrated.] ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003

As I build up my records and data, I'm looking for advice/comment as to how others store theirs. I presently use the freeware from Ancestry.com and Legacy to keep my 'tree' up to date, but how does that compare with other systems? Does anyone have Family Tree or other systems? Is it good or better than the freeware? I've recently managed to obtain lots of family pics from cousins, so I eventually want to have some stored with my tree. Any views on that? Sorry if this is a little 'off-topic' edward

******************************************************************************************************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************* 1863 Mar 6 Reports by John R Forbes ground officer on emigrants (nos refer to crofts) "No. 139 John McDonald Wr. Helmsdale - Intending to Emigrate to the Cape of Good hope John McDonald aged 39 - & his wife 40 - has a Lot of 4 acres - 2 of which is new land rent £4 1 4 full vallue The dwelling House is good altho out of repair inside - he was a widower with 2 of a famly [sic] & She the widow of the former Tenant had 2 Children they have one of ther Own, which makes a famly of 5 - 3 Girls & 2 Boys The Eldest is 13 & the Youngest One yr. They are allways hard up & unable to pay there rent at the proper time. There House is poorly furnished & they have but one cow & no horse. They are all Strong and Healthy & likely to do well" "No. 108 Alex Bannerman Wr. Helmsdale Intending to Emigrate to the Cape of Good Hope This man Pays £4 1 4 former rent £2 Extent of land 3½ acres - 2 of which is new partly improved by himself the rest by the Father, who came from Ulbisdale Strath of Kildonan, & was one of the old Sutherland Fencibles - died in 1847 - his son married in 1848 a daughter of the late Gilbert Gunn's Inchkep Rogard they have 8 of a famly 7 Boys and one Girl from 14 years old to one year - he is a labourer or Carter by trade, but never Can get Steady Employment & Altho poor is a very active intiligent [sic] & hard working man and a thorough Loyal Subject being the nearly first who Entered his name in the Hl. V. A [Helmsdale Volunteer Artillery] - he has been for some time in Charge of the wood in the Strath The Lot is at full value & the Houses are old & worthless, his Stock is an old Horse & cow. There is an Elder Sister of His who lives on the premises & does not go with them. His age 39 yrs her Ae 32" Weeks later transpired that there was a lack of colonial funds: severe drought, crops suffered, revenue short. Emigrants must remain for present. [Not known if ever emigrated.]

I use Family Tree Maker version 10 & love it. It is totally user friendly & has space for 15 pictures for each person. You can put in photos of the person or any scanned image (i.e. marriage certificates, pages from books etc). It is very easy to crop pictures if you just want to include one person from a group shot. You can print out trees with a picture of each individual, do a slideshow of pictures, etc. I started with version 3 many years ago after using PAF & find Family Tree Maker just keeps getting better with each new version. I just started out a friend who wants to start genealogy with Family Tree Maker & she had no experience at all & loves it & has her little tree full of pictures & notes already. Margaret in wet, wet, wet North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Epaxton@aol.com To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:12 AM Subject: [SUT] Storing records As I build up my records and data, I'm looking for advice/comment as to how others store theirs. I presently use the freeware from Ancestry.com and Legacy to keep my 'tree' up to date, but how does that compare with other systems? Does anyone have Family Tree or other systems? Is it good or better than the freeware? I've recently managed to obtain lots of family pics from cousins, so I eventually want to have some stored with my tree. Any views on that? Sorry if this is a little 'off-topic' edward ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Here is some information on this family. ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND [born 2/1756] married MARION MACKAY [died 22/7/1830] There is an entry for a marriage between Marion and Alexander on 29 December 1785 at Dornoch (IGI). However, as this is after the date of the first children's births I wonder if there is an error here. Maron or Marion died at Birichen, Dornoch, on 22 July 1830. This death is shown on the Old Parish Register and names her as Maron, wife of Alexander Sutherland. (editor's note: some of these children appear born too close together - we must assume that these are either baptism dates or there were two couples in Dornoch with the same names). Marion and Alexander had the following children born or christened in Dornoch (SCR/OPR): James SUTHERLAND, born 13 January 1782; David SUTHERLAND, born 16 December 1785; James SUTHERLAND, born 21 November 1790; John SUTHERLAND born 11 April 1791; Margaret SUTHERLAND, born 19 February 1793; James SUTHERLAND, born 24 May 1795; John SUTHERLAND, born 26 July 1795; Helen SUTHERLAND, born 16 June 1804 [married Donald Munro] Kenneth SUTHERLAND, born 29 January 1809. DONALD MUNRO married HELEN SUTHERLAND Donald was born in Dornoch son of Angus Munro and Christian Graham. Helen Sutherland was born in Dornoch daughter of Alexander Sutherland and Marion Mackay. She and Donald married in Dornoch on 17 January 1826. Donald and Helen had five children, two daughters born in Golspie, then a daughter and son born in Clyne and another son born at Lochiver. Donald and his family all emigrated to Australia in 1837. A member of this list in Queensland has further information on this family. I will send you her email address privately. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Brian Wiles [mailto:jrog44@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:01 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] SUTHERLAND /MCKAY FAMILY Hi Everyone, >From the Old Parish Register 47/1 Dornoch Co of Sutherland I have the Birth details for Helen Sutherland, 18 June 1804, daughter of Alexr Sutherland and Marrion McKay from Pronsy. Does anyone know anything further about these parents or possible siblings. Regards, Judy. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003

Thanks Robert I will look out for these books Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Sutherland <rsuth02@earthlink.net> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: [SUT] BOOKS > Iain, > I'm currently reading "From Rebel To Hero, The Image of the Highlander 1745-1830" by Robert Clyde, 1995, Tuckwell Press Ltd. and I've recently completed: "Highland Clans & Tartans" by R.W. Munro, 1977, Crescent Books Ltd. and "James IV A Renaissance King" by Ruth Blackie, Graham Donaldson & Douglas McKenzie, 1996. I've enjoyed each of these so far, so maybe you would also? > > Robert > > Robert Sutherland > Seattle, Washington, USA > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On the subject of books, I got an interesting book about Patrick Sellar in the Dornoch book shop last summer. It was written by his g-granddaughter(?) in an effort to shed a better light on him. I am sorry I cannot remember the author's name - perhaps someone else knows the book. I left it with a friend in Sutherland and cannot make the reference. The thing that impressed me most was the extraordinary speed with which he travelled from Morayshire up to Loch Fleet and back - going most of the way on foot. Elspeth

Format: Name, marital status, rank or profession; date and place of death; sex; age in years; father; mother [maiden name]; cause of death; informant. Janet McLEOD, pauper, widow of James McLEOD; Feb 2 at Skinnid, Melness; F; 82; Alexander MCLEOD, tenant, deceased; Bell NICOL, deceased; general debility; George MCLEOD, son. George MACKAY, single; Feb 1 at Tubeg, Skerray; M; 53 days; Alexander MACKAY, labourer; Janet MCKAY; unknown; Alexander MACKAY, father. Charles MCKAY, pauper, wodower of Betty MCKAY; Feb 13 at Torrisdale; M; 82; Angus MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Barbara MCKAY, deceased; general debility; James MCKAY, son-in-law. John SUTHERLAND, labourer, married to Christy GUNN; Feb 13 at Skinnid, Melness; M; 78; Hector SUTHERLAND, tenant, deceased; Ann STEWART, deceased; unknown; Hugh GOW, son-in-law. Eric MCKAY, single; Mar 4 at Tubeg, Skerray; M; 8; Donald McKAY, labourer; Janet CAMPBELL; unknown; John McKAY, uncle. Angusina MUNRO, single; Mar 13 at Skinnid; F; 21; Donald MUNRO, small tenant; Merran McKAY; supposed consumption; Duncan MUNRO, cousin. Margaret MACINTOSH, pauper, widow of George MACKINTOSH; Apr 6 at Inchverry; F; 95; William SUTHERLAND, tenant, deceased; general debility; John MCKENZIE, neighbour. Donald MCKAY, mason, married to Ann CAMPBELL; Apr 10 at Achnabat, Skerray; M; 63; Angus McKAY, tenant, deceased; disease of heart; Walter CAMPBELL, neighbour. Donald SUTHERLAND, labourer, single; May 1 at Strathan, Melness; M; 32; John SUTHERLAND, labourer; Mary McKAY; phthisis pulmonalis; David MACKAY, uncle. Catherine MCKAY, widow of John MCKAY; May 16 at Achtotty, Skerray; F; 94; Donald MCLEOD, tenant, deceased; Janet MCKAY, deceased; unknown; George MCKAY, son. William McKAY, labourer, single; May 27 at Scullomy; M; 41; Angus MCKAY, tenant deceased; Grace MCKAY, deceased; phthisis pulmonalis; Charles MCKAY, uncle. John MCKAY, pauper, single; Jun 8 at Clashaidy, Skerray; M; 74; Donald MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Christina GUNN, deceased; bronchitis, asthma [?], heart disease; George ?, brother-in-law. Hector MCKAY, tenant, married to Margaret McKAY; Jun 12 at Scullomy, Tongue, M; 86; Hector MCKAY, tenant, decesaed; Barbara MCKAY, deceased; general debility; Alex MACKAY, nephew. Ann McKAY, pauper, single; May 29 at Braetongue; F; 74; Alexander MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Mary ?, deceased; unknown; Mary McKAY, niece. William McKENZIE, pensioner, married to Janet McKAY; Jun 18 at Deanside; M; 83; Donald MCKENZIE, tenant, deceased; Catherine McKAY, deceased; asthma and bronchilis, heart disease; John MCKENZIE, son. Barbara DONNELLY, single; Jul 2 at Braetongue; F; 2; William DONNELLY, hawker; Elizabeth ANDERSON; hydrocophalus; William DONNELLY, son. Angus MCKAY, small crofter, married to Betty MCINTOSH; Jul 5 at Achtotty Lots, Skerray; M; 70 1/2; Robert MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Catherine MCINTOSH, deceased; unknown; Donald MACKAY, son. George McKAY, shoemaker, single; Jul 6 at Torrisdale; M; 67; Donald McKAY, shoemaker, deceased; Barbara MCKAY [deceased scratched through]; unknown; Murdoch McKAY, neighbour. Hugh MUNRO, pensioner, widower of Betty McKENZIE; Jul 31 at Talmine, Melness; M; 84; John MUNRO, tenant, deceased; Janet MCKAY, deceased; general debility; James MUNRO, brother. Sinclair BARNETSON, pointsman on the railway, single; Aug 1 at Melness; M; 20; John BARNETSON, ploughman; May ANGUS; consumption; John BARNTETSON, father. William MCKAY, fisherman, single; Aug 13 at Skinnid, Melness; M; 28; Robert MCKAY, pensioner; Georgina SUTHERLAND, deceased; consumption; Peter McKAY, neighbour. Isabell MCKAY, married to Robert McKAY, fisherman; Aug 14 at Portvasgo, Melness; F; 40; Hugh CLOUSTON, fisherman, Isabella ?; child bed; William MCKAY, son. Robert MCKAY, pensioner, widower of Georgina SUTHERLAND; Nov 1 at Skinnid, Melness; M; 80; Robert MACKAY, tenant deceased; Besie ?, deceased; general debility; George MACKAY, son. Jane MCDONALD, married to John MCDONALD, tenant; Nov 1 at Hyshbacky; F; 78; Robert GORDON, tenant,d eceased; Barbara ?, deceased; general debility; John MCDONALD, husband. Christina MCKAY, pauper, single; Nov 2 at Rhitongue; F; 87; John MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Mary INNIS, deceased; general debility; Mary MCKAY, sister. Marion MCLEOD, pauper, widow of Marinus MCLEOD; Nov 16 at Tubeg, Skerray; F; 82; Neil MCKAY, labourer, deceased; Elizabeth MCKAY, deceased; general debility; Magnus MCKAY, neighbour.

Many of you will remember our dear friend Willie Gunn who died last year. Willie was a very active member of the POSH committee and for many years a member of Clyne Heritage Society. The Society has erected a memorial plaque to Willie in the centre of Brora at Capaldi’s car park by the bee-holes. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003

I also bought the Trial of Patrick Sellar by Ian Grimble expecting it to be about the trial but interesting nonetheless. Another view on an old subject well written. I find the Statistical Accounts fascinating. I did a comparison on Rogart between all three Statistical Accounts and found little real basic change but a fascinating insight into how three different writers viewed the parish. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Iain Sutherland [mailto:iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 8:48 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] BOOKS I am always interested in books about the Highlands and have recently bought "The Trial Of Patrick Sellar by Ian Grimble" this is an excellent book perhaps miscalled as I expected a book about his Trial which it is not but I would still recommend it . Another buy has been " The Third Statistical Account Of Sutherland " done in 1988 yet to be read. What are other List members reading or what books would you recommend about Sutherland or the Highlands? Iain Membership Secretary POSH Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage A Resident of Keighley West Yorkshire www.sutherlandheritage.com member's interests in Sutherland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.html ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003

I am always interested in books about the Highlands and have recently bought "The Trial Of Patrick Sellar by Ian Grimble" this is an excellent book perhaps miscalled as I expected a book about his Trial which it is not but I would still recommend it . Another buy has been " The Third Statistical Account Of Sutherland " done in 1988 yet to be read. What are other List members reading or what books would you recommend about Sutherland or the Highlands? Iain Membership Secretary POSH Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage A Resident of Keighley West Yorkshire www.sutherlandheritage.com member's interests in Sutherland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.html

Iain, I'm currently reading "From Rebel To Hero, The Image of the Highlander 1745-1830" by Robert Clyde, 1995, Tuckwell Press Ltd. and I've recently completed: "Highland Clans & Tartans" by R.W. Munro, 1977, Crescent Books Ltd. and "James IV A Renaissance King" by Ruth Blackie, Graham Donaldson & Douglas McKenzie, 1996. I've enjoyed each of these so far, so maybe you would also? Robert Robert Sutherland Seattle, Washington, USA

Adair: More Polsons to fit in somwhere in this huge family.... Descendants of Hugh Polson 1 Hugh Polson b: Abt. 1846 in Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland d: Bef. 1919 in Helmsdale, Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland .. +Jemima Ross b: Abt. 1848 in Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland m: 15 September 1871 in Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland d: Bef. 1919 in Helmsdale, Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland .......... 2 John Polson b: Abt. 1875 in Stafford St., Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland .......... 2 Margaret Polson b: Abt. 1877 in Stafford St., Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland .......... 2 Johan Polson b: Abt. 1880 in Stafford St., Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland .......... 2 Hugh Polson b: 2 October 1886 in Helmsdale, Kildonan Parish, Sutherland, Scotland d: Abt. 1928 in London, England? ............... +Jane MacKay b: 31 May 1892 in Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland m: 20 March 1919 in St Andrews Scottish Episcopal Church, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, Scotland d: 3 January 1966 in Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland Burial: Helmsdale Cemetery with her mother and stepfamily CHANGE MY EMAIL TO: jrpatrick@sympatico.ca "Ancestors Plant Trees to Shelter Future Generations" really-big-mail to: 150 Burkholder St., Stouffville, Ontario Canada L4A 4J4 Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage www.sutherlandheritage.com *************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. **************************************************************************** * -----Original Message----- From: G L & D A Genge [mailto:genge@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 12:10 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] Bannerman/Allan I have found out more about my great grandfather's youngest brother William Polson from my research on scotspeople. However there are still some gaps. William was born about 1852. He married Ann Allan (sic) on 23 June 1876 in Leith, Edinburgh where they were both working. I managed to view their marriage entry. They were both born in Sutherland according to the marriage entry and the census schedules for 1881, 1891 and 1901. William and Ann came back to live with his parents at Marrel and later owned the croft after Flora's death. The eldest two of their children were born in Edinburgh. According to her marriage entry, Ann was the daughter of Sinclair Allan and Mina Bannerman. Sinclair is described as a mason. They were married in Loth Parish, Sutherland on 16 July 1847. Mina may well be short for Williamina. William and Ann's eldest daughter was known as Minnie. Does anyone recognise this family? Did Ann have siblings? Hope someone can help. Adair Aotearoa / New Zealand --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/03

I have found out more about my great grandfather's youngest brother William Polson from my research on scotspeople. However there are still some gaps. William was born about 1852. He married Ann Allan (sic) on 23 June 1876 in Leith, Edinburgh where they were both working. I managed to view their marriage entry. They were both born in Sutherland according to the marriage entry and the census schedules for 1881, 1891 and 1901. William and Ann came back to live with his parents at Marrel and later owned the croft after Flora's death. The eldest two of their children were born in Edinburgh. According to her marriage entry, Ann was the daughter of Sinclair Allan and Mina Bannerman. Sinclair is described as a mason. They were married in Loth Parish, Sutherland on 16 July 1847. Mina may well be short for Williamina. William and Ann's eldest daughter was known as Minnie. Does anyone recognise this family? Did Ann have siblings? Hope someone can help. Adair Aotearoa / New Zealand

I have downloaded two census sheets from the scotspeople website. These are the names of families from Marril (sic) in the Kildonan District who appear on either side of my interests. Hopefully it helps someone out. No 61 Daniel Sutherland, Head, Married, 67, Farmer, b. Larnark,Glasgow, speaks Gaelic and English Janet Sutherland,Wife, Married, 68, b. Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English Rose Sutherland, Dau, Single, 28, Domestic Servant, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic& English No 62 Alexander McLeod, Head, Widower, 68,Farmer, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English David McLeod, Son, Single, 26, Farm Servant, b. Sutherland,Kildonan Catherine McLeod, Dau, Single, 19, storekeeper, b.Sutherland,Kildonan No 63 (My family) William Polson, Head, Married, 48, Crofter, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English Ann Polson, Wife, 47, b. Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English (Ann's maiden name was Allen - she was the daughter of Mina Bannerman and Sinclair Allen) Jessie Polson, Dau, Single, 22, Domestic servant, b.Edinburgh, speaks Gaelic and English Lizzie Polson, Dau, Single, 16, Domestic servant, b.Sutherland,Kildonan,speaks Gaelic and English William Polson, Son, Single, 13, Scholar, b.Sutherland,Kildonan Sinclair Polson, Son, Single, 11, Scholar, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, No 64 Elizabeth McLeod, Head, Single, 80, Retired Crofter, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic&English No 65 James Palmer, Head, Married, 50, Crofter and Bootmaker, b.Edinburgh Elspeth Palmer, Wife, 49, b. Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English Helen B. Palmer, Dau, Single, 21, Housemaid, b.Edinburgh Robinson S. Palmer, Son, Single, 17, Clerk, b.Edinburgh John Palmer, Son, Single, 16, Scholar, b.Edinburgh Hugh S. Palmer, Son, Single, 13, Scholar, b.Edinburgh George B. Palmer, Son, Single, 8, Scholar, b.Sutherland,Kildonan No 66 George Bannerman, Head, Married, 52, Farmer, b.Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English Mary Bannerman, Wife, 45, b. Sutherland,Kildonan, speaks Gaelic and English Kate Bannerman, Dau, Single, 16, Domestic servant, b.Sutherland,Kildonan Barbara Bannerman, Dau, Single, 13, Scholar, b.Sutherland,Kildonan Dina Bannerman, Dau, Single, 12, Scholar, b.Sutherland,Kildonan I'll post the other sheet later. I hope I have translated the ages correctly. They are crossed through on the census sheet. William and Ann had three other older daughters. I found Minnie working in Roxburgh, but not sure about Ann and Flora at this stage. Adair Polson-Genge Aotearoa / New Zealand

My great-grandfather John ROSS was born at Durness and christened there in 1844. In the 1851 Census he was living with his parents Alexander ROSS and Barbara CAMPBELL at Sangomore. After a lifetime as a police constable in Leith, he returned to Durness, died at Sangomore in 1918, and is buried (I think) in the Balnakiel cemetery. Is there any way of finding out: 1) just where in Durness he was born 2) just where in Sangomore the family was living in 1851, and 3) just where in Durness he spent his retirement years? Or is it a case of the town's name being all the detail available? Finally, how can I verify that he is buried in Balnakiel cemetery, and how can I locate the position of his grave, if there is no headstone? I sense that my questions demonstrate a considerable lack of understanding about the whole situation, so please bear with me! John Ross Albury NSW Australia