Ach Well I do talk rubbish sometimes iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Thomson <thomson.p@mgmt.wits.ac.za> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: RE: [SUT] photographs OT Percy Shaw > Iain, and anyone else interested > Looks like Angi has something for us :- > " When the Yorkshire born inventor, Percy Shaw, .. " > "Unlike many inventors, Percy Shaw reaped the benefit of his idea during his > own lifetime. > Although he never married and never left his native Yorkshire, > he will always be remembered by many for his outstanding contribution to > road safety. " > Doesn't appear to have any Hungarian roots from these statements > Regards > Pam > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angi Lamb [mailto:angigael@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 25 May 2003 11:37 > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > Google came up with Percy Shaw > http://www.jenkins-ip.com/mym/spring2000/t_news01.htm > > Angi > -- > Angi Lamb > Portobello, Edinburgh > angigael@blueyonder.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > No, I think the inventor of cat's eyes was a Yorkshireman (it would be!) > but > > I can not remember the name. > > > > Donald Massey > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Iain, and anyone else interested Looks like Angi has something for us :- " When the Yorkshire born inventor, Percy Shaw, .. " "Unlike many inventors, Percy Shaw reaped the benefit of his idea during his own lifetime. Although he never married and never left his native Yorkshire, he will always be remembered by many for his outstanding contribution to road safety. " Doesn't appear to have any Hungarian roots from these statements Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: Angi Lamb [mailto:angigael@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 25 May 2003 11:37 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs Google came up with Percy Shaw http://www.jenkins-ip.com/mym/spring2000/t_news01.htm Angi -- Angi Lamb Portobello, Edinburgh angigael@blueyonder.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > No, I think the inventor of cat's eyes was a Yorkshireman (it would be!) but > I can not remember the name. > > Donald Massey > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Google came up with Percy Shaw http://www.jenkins-ip.com/mym/spring2000/t_news01.htm Angi -- Angi Lamb Portobello, Edinburgh angigael@blueyonder.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > No, I think the inventor of cat's eyes was a Yorkshireman (it would be!) but > I can not remember the name. > > Donald Massey > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Donald, You're right, of course. However, the 'rule' refers to *Scottish* customs, and not English or Welsh. Moreover, it refers to the 18th and perhaps early 19th centuries, and not, say, 1830 or later in Scotland. But there are all sorts of reasons why the custom was not followed in the early period. Even so, I've found it an enormous help, alerting me on several occasions to a 'missing' child, and pointing me towards the right parents. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: "Sara Thomas" <sethomas@btinternet.com>; <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming of Children > I hope nobody takes this too literally: the "rule" is never more tha a > guide, perhaps useful if one is not sure which of similarly named people is > likel;y to be the one one is researching. > > In my Scottish, Welsh and English ancestry, I have found as many exceptions > as follwers of the "rule." > > Donald Massey >

Actually my family followed the "rule" into the 20th century lol. Maryann Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming of Children > Donald, > You're right, of course. However, the 'rule' refers to *Scottish* > customs, and not English or Welsh. Moreover, it refers to the 18th and > perhaps early 19th centuries, and not, say, 1830 or later in Scotland. > But there are all sorts of reasons why the custom was not followed in > the early period. Even so, I've found it an enormous help, alerting me > on several occasions to a 'missing' child, and pointing me towards the > right parents. > Sara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> > To: "Sara Thomas" <sethomas@btinternet.com>; > <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] Naming of Children > > > > I hope nobody takes this too literally: the "rule" is never more tha > a > > guide, perhaps useful if one is not sure which of similarly named > people is > > likel;y to be the one one is researching. > > > > In my Scottish, Welsh and English ancestry, I have found as many > exceptions > > as follwers of the "rule." > > > > Donald Massey > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

No, I think the inventor of cat's eyes was a Yorkshireman (it would be!) but I can not remember the name. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads?

I hope nobody takes this too literally: the "rule" is never more tha a guide, perhaps useful if one is not sure which of similarly named people is likel;y to be the one one is researching. In my Scottish, Welsh and English ancestry, I have found as many exceptions as follwers of the "rule." Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > I've learnt something new from a book recently bought --- Eliz. > Haldane: 'The Scotland of Our Fathers', 1933 (a study of Scottish life > in the 19th century). She says (p. 31): The only exception to the > regular [naming] rule was when the male child was the first to be > baptized by a new minister, in which case he invariably received the > latter's name.'

I am researching the Munro family in Durness/Thurso and Ullapool. I have: Donald Munro (sailor) born Durness 1805 married Jean McKay 1828 in Durness. Jean was daughter of Hugh McKay (shepherd). Donald appears to have been the son of Alexander Munro (tailor) and Katharine Morrison but that has not been verified. The name Alexander is not present in any of his children. Children of Donald Munro Hugh Munro Peggy Munro James Munro Donald James Munro Izzy Johnson Munro Murdoch Munro James Munro born circa 1835 married Hughina Campbell - they were married in Durness in 1861 Jan but were living in Thurso by the 1861 census with Donald's wife who was "Former Wife of a sailor" Jean/Jane McKay Munro was living at 36 Shore Street Ullapool in the 1851 census and was "a sailors wife" Their daughter Peggy was married to Malcolm McLeod and lived in Ullapool in the 1851 census. Neither Donald Munro or James Munro were mentioned in neither census and have not yet been found for that year. James Munro was a master tailor and had a drapers shop in Thurso during the 1870's which I believe was called MUNRO & McKay his daughter Jane McKay Munro married Adam McKay Tailor and later lived in Talmine area. I have been unable to find out anymore about Donald Munro after his sons wedding in 1861 when he was alive I have been unable to find James Munro after his daughters wedding in Feb 1895 Can anyone help me find further details? I have quite a long listing of the Durness marriages and christenings between 1755 and 1840 (some pages missing) if anyone needs any info - please contact me.

I notice that there was another Donald Munro born in the Parish of Durness in 1805. Baptised at the West Moine Mission on Oct 14, 1805 was Donald Mackay Munro, son of James Munro and Mary Munro. No occupation given for the father, James. West Moine is east of the Town of Durness, the area in the vicinity of Loch Hope/Eriboll. I think. While the marriage of James Munro and Mary Munro is not recorded in my transcript of the Durness OPR, I do have some other extracts which show a marriage on Dec 20, 1804 and another on Dec 6, 1805. Ian in Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: eileen VASA Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:24 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUT] Donald Munro - Durness I am researching the Munro family in Durness/Thurso and Ullapool. I have: Donald Munro (sailor) born Durness 1805 married Jean McKay 1828 in Durness. Jean was daughter of Hugh McKay (shepherd). Donald appears to have been the son of Alexander Munro (tailor) and Katharine Morrison but that has not been verified. The name Alexander is not present in any of his children.

It's a Bank Holiday weekend in the U.K. again our last till August the weather is going to be that guaranteed mixture of wet & windy at least in Yorkshire so a good time to dig out all those names of Family Members to put on the list for help? Iain Membership Secretary POSH Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage A Resident of Keighley West Yorkshire www.sutherlandheritage.com member's interests in Sutherland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.html

I've learnt something new from a book recently bought --- Eliz. Haldane: 'The Scotland of Our Fathers', 1933 (a study of Scottish life in the 19th century). She says (p. 31): The only exception to the regular [naming] rule was when the male child was the first to be baptized by a new minister, in which case he invariably received the latter's name.' I hope this explains an odd name in somebody's family. I've got one example in my Fife line --- I thought the parents were trying to put things right with the minister! Sara

Sara All that research into to ships finally paid off !!! Pam >>> "Iain Sutherland" <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> 05/22/03 10:03pm >>> I,m tremblin fair tremblin I thought the welsh were bad enough but Attila ooh heck Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: [SUT] Cheer up, everybody! [Off-topic] > Thought I'd share with you the news that I'm descended from Attila the > Hun. This is through a connection in my Craigie branch (Perthshire) > with the Drummond family. > > A cousin has sent a photocopy of a marvellous old book on the > Drummonds. Lots of fascinating info: e.g. Attila 'died on the night > of his marriage to the fair Ildica at the age of 124'. > > If that's not a warning to us all, harken to the fate of a descendant > of his, Sybilla, who died by eating 'a portion of her sister's > breakfast' --- that'll teach her! (She obviously forgot the Drummond > motto, which is "Gang Warily".) > > Sara > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I,m tremblin fair tremblin I thought the welsh were bad enough but Attila ooh heck Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: [SUT] Cheer up, everybody! [Off-topic] > Thought I'd share with you the news that I'm descended from Attila the > Hun. This is through a connection in my Craigie branch (Perthshire) > with the Drummond family. > > A cousin has sent a photocopy of a marvellous old book on the > Drummonds. Lots of fascinating info: e.g. Attila 'died on the night > of his marriage to the fair Ildica at the age of 124'. > > If that's not a warning to us all, harken to the fate of a descendant > of his, Sybilla, who died by eating 'a portion of her sister's > breakfast' --- that'll teach her! (She obviously forgot the Drummond > motto, which is "Gang Warily".) > > Sara > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thought I'd share with you the news that I'm descended from Attila the Hun. This is through a connection in my Craigie branch (Perthshire) with the Drummond family. A cousin has sent a photocopy of a marvellous old book on the Drummonds. Lots of fascinating info: e.g. Attila 'died on the night of his marriage to the fair Ildica at the age of 124'. If that's not a warning to us all, harken to the fate of a descendant of his, Sybilla, who died by eating 'a portion of her sister's breakfast' --- that'll teach her! (She obviously forgot the Drummond motto, which is "Gang Warily".) Sara

If he was Ladislo Biro - tho somehow me thinks not !! Maybe Percy Shaw 1934 from Yorkshire no less !! Nancy there is an interesting article on biros to be found on http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa101697.htm It's amazing what comes up if you search - inventor biro pens Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: Iain Sutherland [mailto:iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk] Sent: 21 May 2003 09:17 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > It was invented by a Hungarian chap called Biro! > (chap = bloke, guy, fellow) > Sara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iain Sutherland" <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > Sorry this is a brand name for a ball point pen used by many folk to > > describe any ball point > > Iain > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nancy Greig <nancy.brian@sympatico.ca> > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 4:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > > > > Excuse my ignorance......but what is 'biro'? Hope to get at a ton > of > > photos > > > marked if I get some spare time??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Nancy Sutherland Greig..... In a finally hot and sunny Ontario! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jenny MacKay" <jabol@wn.com.au> > > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > > > > > > > If you are going to write on the backs of your photographs, > please don't > > > use > > > > biro. There are special photo labelling pencils to use that are > a very > > > soft > > > > lead and do not indent or harm your photos. Ink has been known > to leak > > > > through and destroy the very faces we have tried to preserve. > > > > > > > > I'm a Creative Memories consultant here in Western Australia and > I hold > > > > classes and workshops on teaching people how to preserve their > precious > > > > memories. I'm sure there are consultants out there in the UK and > > elsewhere > > > > who would be only too willing to teach you too. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > Jenny MacKay > > > > Geraldton West Australia > > > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > > > > A lesson here for today! We should all ensure we do write on > the back > > > of > > > > > photographs when sending them to friends and relatives. > > > > > I also have photographs of family weddings etc where I can > only > > > recognise > > > > my > > > > > own immediate family, granny, etc. I often look at these > trying to > > guess > > > > who > > > > > is who. > > > > > > > > > > Christine > > > > > Northamptonshire, England > > > > > www.highlandhearts.com > > > > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > > email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > > To check out previous messages > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sorry, Iain, I was out of the bar for a few moments when that came up in the pub quiz. > Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? > Iain

Was that the same one who invented Cats Eyes for roads? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > It was invented by a Hungarian chap called Biro! > (chap = bloke, guy, fellow) > Sara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iain Sutherland" <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > Sorry this is a brand name for a ball point pen used by many folk to > > describe any ball point > > Iain > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nancy Greig <nancy.brian@sympatico.ca> > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 4:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > > > > Excuse my ignorance......but what is 'biro'? Hope to get at a ton > of > > photos > > > marked if I get some spare time??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Nancy Sutherland Greig..... In a finally hot and sunny Ontario! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jenny MacKay" <jabol@wn.com.au> > > > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > > > > > > > If you are going to write on the backs of your photographs, > please don't > > > use > > > > biro. There are special photo labelling pencils to use that are > a very > > > soft > > > > lead and do not indent or harm your photos. Ink has been known > to leak > > > > through and destroy the very faces we have tried to preserve. > > > > > > > > I'm a Creative Memories consultant here in Western Australia and > I hold > > > > classes and workshops on teaching people how to preserve their > precious > > > > memories. I'm sure there are consultants out there in the UK and > > elsewhere > > > > who would be only too willing to teach you too. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > Jenny MacKay > > > > Geraldton West Australia > > > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > > > > A lesson here for today! We should all ensure we do write on > the back > > > of > > > > > photographs when sending them to friends and relatives. > > > > > I also have photographs of family weddings etc where I can > only > > > recognise > > > > my > > > > > own immediate family, granny, etc. I often look at these > trying to > > guess > > > > who > > > > > is who. > > > > > > > > > > Christine > > > > > Northamptonshire, England > > > > > www.highlandhearts.com > > > > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > > email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > > To check out previous messages > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I'm also interested in these records and also anything relating to nearby Keoldale Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Randall" <rrandall1@vtown.com.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: [SUT] Estate Books? Balnakeil > I'm after some advice yet again.... > > My Ewan McMILLAN was foxhunter to Mr Dunlop 1811. > Mr Dunlop was the manager of Balnakeil Estate. > > In 1816 he was a shepherd at Arnaboll - not sure if this was a > different estate, or he merely changed residence after getting > married the year before (lived Shinness) > > How does one access these records? [if they exist] > ?write to Estate or > ?visit Edinburgh / pay a researcher > ?anything online, free or pay-to-view > > ALL comments gratefully received! > > Thanks, > ChristineR > Vic Australia > > ______________________________

Oops Sorry Nancy, that just came out being a common word used around here for "ball point pens" as others have explained. Do make sure you are storing your photos in archival safe photo albums that use page protectors made of polypropylene. The protectors protect the photos was finger prints, dust, spillages and the like. The albums need to be lignin free (natural substance in wood that turns paper yellow), acid free (most paper contains acid) and buffered to prevent migration of acid through the pages if adding memorabilia to your album, eg theatre tickets, newspaper cuttings etc. Also write your memories down with your photos. Obviously if they are old historic ones, you may not know the Who, When, Where, What and Why, but at least write these details down with your current photos as one day they will be historic too. Cheers Jenny Geraldton WA > Excuse my ignorance......but what is 'biro'? Hope to get at a ton of photos > marked if I get some spare time??? > > Thanks, > > Nancy Sutherland Greig..... In a finally hot and sunny Ontario! >

Hi Nancy, funny how one is suprised when a word that is in common usuage in one's own country isn't known everywhere else! "Biro" is a ball-point pen - I think it known thus because this was the brandname of the first ones here. Goodluck with your photos - but dont use ink! ChristineR Vic Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Greig <nancy.brian@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > Excuse my ignorance......but what is 'biro'? Hope to get at a ton of photos > marked if I get some spare time??? > > Thanks, > > Nancy Sutherland Greig..... In a finally hot and sunny Ontario! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny MacKay" <jabol@wn.com.au> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [SUT] photographs > > > > If you are going to write on the backs of your photographs, please don't > use > > biro. There are special photo labelling pencils to use that are a very > soft > > lead and do not indent or harm your photos. Ink has been known to leak > > through and destroy the very faces we have tried to preserve. > > > > I'm a Creative Memories consultant here in Western Australia and I hold > > classes and workshops on teaching people how to preserve their precious > > memories. I'm sure there are consultants out there in the UK and elsewhere > > who would be only too willing to teach you too. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jenny MacKay > > Geraldton West Australia > > > > ---------------- > > > > > A lesson here for today! We should all ensure we do write on the back > of > > > photographs when sending them to friends and relatives. > > > I also have photographs of family weddings etc where I can only > recognise > > my > > > own immediate family, granny, etc. I often look at these trying to guess > > who > > > is who. > > > > > > Christine > > > Northamptonshire, England > > > www.highlandhearts.com > > > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > email rhemusaig@tiscali.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > To check out previous messages > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >