Hi, I would also like to introduce myself to the list. My interests include the Munros from Dornoch, the MacKay's from Rogart and the Sutherlands also from the same area. I live in West Zorra, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada where a large number of Sutherlandshire people emigrated to following the Clearances. The settlement started about 1819 with William and Angus MacKay, brothers who made their way to Zorra because of land opening up in the township. William had been a Captain in the ninety-third Sutherland and Argyleshire Highland Regiment and at the close of the Peninsular War had been granted his discharge. Angus returned to Sutherland in about 1828 and hired a boat bringing back to Zorra many of his relatives that had been evicted by the Duke of Sutherland. The Munro's may have been on that original boat or they came shortly after. William MacKay was born in Rogart about 1794 and Angus MacKay about 1798. Their parents were George MacKay and Janet Gordon. George's parents were Angus and Isobel MacKay. Isobel at the age of 80 came on the boat in 1829 to Zorra but died within 3 months and was the first person buried in the Old Log Cemetery. Charles Munro married Ann Ross in Scotland and I believe that all their children were born in Canada. If anyone has connections to any of these families I would love to hear from you. Lynn Munro

Glen: I don't suppose you know what ship your MacDonalds and Bailies came over on in 1820? My Sutherlands came from Clyne in 1820 as well, and I'd love to know the ship. Might be the same one as yours. Cathy MacKenzie VIEW MY MACKENZIE LINEAGE: http://members.tripod.com/camack48/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Matheson" <jag.matheson@ns.sympatico.ca> > MacDonald - from Clyne to NS in 1820 (Alexander son of Adam) > Baillie (1) - from Scottary, Clyne to Earltown circa 1820

hi can anyone help me with this line Marion/Margaret KERR married alexander STEWART she died in Nedd assynt in 1896 aged 68 her parents were Norman Kerr and Marion McKenzie thanking u Michele

Hello all Am trying to locate parents of James McKay, said to be born in the Parish of Dornoch between the above dates. He emigrated to Canada in 1835 with the 71st Highland Light Infantry Regiment, married first a Mary Peck (who died in Odelltown Lower Canada (now Quebec)in 1845. Mary gave him two sons, Alexander born 1842 and James born 1845. James then remarried an Elizabeth Barbour in Woodstock, Ontario in 1849 and she had two children in Canada, Mary Grace born 1850 and Robert Barbour born 1852. Her parents were Robert Barbour and Mary Grace Barbour nee Orr. They were found in the 1861 census living in a Log cabin in East Zorra township, Oxford County. Ontario. Obviously the idea of becoming rich quick appealed because James brought his wife and children to Melbourne, Victoria Australia where more children were born Georgina Mitchell McKay in 1858, and William Stevenson McKay in 1859. They then travelled to Invercargill, New Zealand where my gg grandfather David William McKay was born in 1867. On James Rose McKay's death certificate in 1893 his father was stated to be Alexander McKay a blacksmith. The family bible states that Alexander McKay married an Anne Sutherland - that Alexander died in 1852 (where?) and Anne in 1826 (again where?). Can find no record of them on the IGI but they were listed as Methodists in Canada and later Baptists in NZ. Does James have any siblings? Regards from Christchurch, New Zealand Mary-Ann Farr

Sorry! I forgot to say that the Margaret Mackay I am looking for (who was married to Angus Newlands) was born 1864 in Sutherlandshire and died ca 1947 or 1948 and is buried in Torrisdale Cemetery. I was born and bred in Edinburgh but now live in British Columbia, Canada. Thanks. Malcolm Newlands, newlands@revelstoke.net

Thanks for this information Pat. I want that book. Will have a look for it. Anyone seen it for sale in Scotland or England? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Moreau [mailto:pmoreau@mb.sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:35 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Recommended Book UPROOTED HEATHER, A Story of the Selkirk Settlers, by Wemyss Cavaick copyright 1967 - Mitchell Press Limited, Vancouver, Canada Back cover reads - Here, in an authentically depicted passage of Scottish and Canadian history, is the story of David and Jeannie Grant, who suffered the cruel ousting of the Sutherlands from their Highland crofts. Uprooted, they voyaged westward to a wild new home in search of land they could till and call their own. The author, a Canadian born in Scotland, devoted years to research before writing a book that now joins the library of worthy historical novels illustrative of Canada's beginnings. This novel is devoted to the story of the Sutherland crofters who were gathered up from their destitute position on the beaches when lands they had tilled became a deerpark. They took Lord Sekirk's offer to colonize and so, as the first brigade of an historic migration of settlers, they were pathfinders. I found this book a great read for those searching ancestors in Sutherland. Pat Moreau Winnipeg ROSS & MACKAY - Kildonan & Rogart MACPHERSON & MACKAY - Farr & Rogart SUTHERLAND, REID, MURRAY - Rogart ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hi Grant Be sure to let us all know the web site address as soon as it is up. I have info on all the Murrays in Clyne. Do you want a copy of those which have names of crofts? Let me know exactly what you are after? Christine -----Original Message----- From: croftergee [mailto:croftergee@clynelish.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 12:37 PM To: Christine Stokes; SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Exciting time on the list Hi all Listers, I am mainly researching SUTHERLAND, ANDERSON, MacLEOD, GRANT and BAILLIE from the parish of Clyne. Ive picked up a lot of info on the parish I am happy to share. Particularly interested in contact with people with old placenames fron before the clearances in their records. I am building a web site for genealogy of the parish which I hope to have up soon. Have found a relative from USA from this list plus a lot of useful info. Thanks again to Christine for this site. Grant --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hi, I was born near Earltown, Colchester County, Nova Scotia, an area almost entirely settled by Sutherland people between 1813 and 1840's. The few exceptions were from Kincardine, Ross; Moy, Inverness and some bordering areas of Caithness. My own Sutherlandshire ancestors were: Matheson - from Balblair, Golspie, cleared to Rogart in 1818 and came to NS in 1832. Matheson - from Leatty, Rogart to Nova Scotia in 1818 MacDonald - from Clyne to NS in 1820 (Alexander son of Adam) Baillie (1) - from Scottary, Clyne to Earltown circa 1820 Baillie (2) - from Dochfolly, Clyne to Earltown circa 1821 Anderson - Badnellan Ferguson - from Kilfeddermore, Clyne to Earltown in 1818 Graham - from Urachyl, Clyne to Earltown in 1820 Sutherland - from Rogart Parish to Pictou prior to 1820 MacPherson (1) Lived at Balblair, Golspie prior to 1818. May have originated in Durness MacPherson (2) Leatty, Rogart Sutherland - from Hellanan, Clyne to Earltown in 1821 MacDonald - from Creich and Lochbroom to Pictou County in 1801. Murray (1) - from eastern seaboard of Sutherland to Pictou Co. in 1773 Murray (2) - from Fleuchary, Dornoch to Pictou Co., in 1832. Glen Matheson Glenholme, Nova Scotia

Saw Mary Young's letter to the List and I am wondering what Mary has on the Mackay family of Skerray. My Grandmother was a Margaret Mackay who was married to Angus Newlands and they lived on the croft at 110 Modsary but we have never been able to find out who her parents were as Mackay is such a common name in that area. She had a brother Donald and a sister Chrissy or Christy Mackay. I know they had relatives all over that area. If anyone can help in any way with this "brick wall" I would be delighted to hear from them. Malcolm Newlands, newlands@revelstoke.net

Hi Do you know where Corbuie is then? Christine -----Original Message----- From: EUDVARHELYI@cs.com [mailto:EUDVARHELYI@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:06 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Ross/Murray/Sutherland/Sinclair I am not sure that Corshellach and Corbuie are the same. There is a Corshellach up behind Bonar Bridge (parish of Creich) and there was a family still living there when I was a child ('1929-1940) - I think they were Calders. Don't know if this is any help. Elspeth ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hi all Listers, I am mainly researching SUTHERLAND, ANDERSON, MacLEOD, GRANT and BAILLIE from the parish of Clyne. Ive picked up a lot of info on the parish I am happy to share. Particularly interested in contact with people with old placenames fron before the clearances in their records. I am building a web site for genealogy of the parish which I hope to have up soon. Have found a relative from USA from this list plus a lot of useful info. Thanks again to Christine for this site. Grant

I have a survey map (undated) of part of the area. It shows Corshellach - which is on the Balblair property (where I grew up). It is spelled Coirshellach on the map but I think it is the same place. Adjacent to it, less than a mile away is Coire Buidhe and there is small hill there called Cnoc a' Choire Bhuidhe. This could be Corbuie - I'm sure you know better than I do - the pronunciation is almost the same. I remember the Coirshellach house but that is as far as I go. Elspeth

Sorry, but there is no ISBN number for this book. I found it in a second-hand book shop several years ago. Here are some other books: ON THE CROFTERS' TRAIL, In search of the Clearance Highlanders, by David Craig Hardback ISBN 0 224 02750 6 Paperback ISBN 0 224 03225 9 WOMEN OF RED RIVER by W. J. Healy, Being a book written in 1923 from the recollections of women surviving from the Red River era (Selkirk Settlers) Hardcover ISBN 0-919566-58-8 Paperback ISBN 0-919566-57-X Reprints from 1977 have an index. CANADA'S HERITAGE IN SCOTLAND, By Ged Martin and Jeffrey Simpson ISBN 1-55002-049-8 Includes a chapter on Rogart under Highland Region as well as many others. Pat Winnipeg ---------- >From: MCLEOD MARY <mhm45@home.com> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Recommended Book >Date: Sun, Mar 18, 2001, 10:49 AM > > Pat: > If you actually have a copy of the book, perhaps you could give us the > ISBN number found on the book somewhere. Sometimes it's with the > copyright information & sometimes on the back cover. This is the best > imformation to have when you want to order a book. > Molly Mcleod in Toronto > > Patricia Moreau wrote: >> >> UPROOTED HEATHER, A Story of the Selkirk Settlers, by Wemyss Cavaick >> copyright 1967 - Mitchell Press Limited, Vancouver, Canada >> >> Back cover reads - >> >> Here, in an authentically depicted passage of Scottish and Canadian history, >> is the story of David and Jeannie Grant, who suffered the cruel ousting of >> the Sutherlands from their Highland crofts. Uprooted, they voyaged westward >> to a wild new home in search of land they could till and call their own. >> >> The author, a Canadian born in Scotland, devoted years to research before >> writing a book that now joins the library of worthy historical novels >> illustrative of Canada's beginnings. >> >> This novel is devoted to the story of the Sutherland crofters who were >> gathered up from their destitute position on the beaches when lands they had >> tilled became a deerpark. They took Lord Sekirk's offer to colonize and so, >> as the first brigade of an historic migration of settlers, they were >> pathfinders. >> >> I found this book a great read for those searching ancestors in Sutherland. >> >> Pat Moreau >> Winnipeg >> >> ROSS & MACKAY - Kildonan & Rogart >> MACPHERSON & MACKAY - Farr & Rogart >> SUTHERLAND, REID, MURRAY - Rogart >> >> ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >> You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You > can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You > can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Pat: If you actually have a copy of the book, perhaps you could give us the ISBN number found on the book somewhere. Sometimes it's with the copyright information & sometimes on the back cover. This is the best imformation to have when you want to order a book. Molly Mcleod in Toronto Patricia Moreau wrote: > > UPROOTED HEATHER, A Story of the Selkirk Settlers, by Wemyss Cavaick > copyright 1967 - Mitchell Press Limited, Vancouver, Canada > > Back cover reads - > > Here, in an authentically depicted passage of Scottish and Canadian history, > is the story of David and Jeannie Grant, who suffered the cruel ousting of > the Sutherlands from their Highland crofts. Uprooted, they voyaged westward > to a wild new home in search of land they could till and call their own. > > The author, a Canadian born in Scotland, devoted years to research before > writing a book that now joins the library of worthy historical novels > illustrative of Canada's beginnings. > > This novel is devoted to the story of the Sutherland crofters who were > gathered up from their destitute position on the beaches when lands they had > tilled became a deerpark. They took Lord Sekirk's offer to colonize and so, > as the first brigade of an historic migration of settlers, they were > pathfinders. > > I found this book a great read for those searching ancestors in Sutherland. > > Pat Moreau > Winnipeg > > ROSS & MACKAY - Kildonan & Rogart > MACPHERSON & MACKAY - Farr & Rogart > SUTHERLAND, REID, MURRAY - Rogart > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hello Linda I have some information on the Murray side of your family. I researched this family a number of years back while putting together my book on Murray Families in Sutherland. Briefly, Margaret Murray was born 15 September 1826 at Corshellach, Creich, daughter of Alexander Murray and Helen Murray of the same place. She and Alexander, a tenant at Corbuie, married as you say in 1853. They had the following Ross children, all born at Corbuie: Isabella, born and died 6 January 1855; Alexander, you know about; Donald, born 28 October 1857; Margaret born 12 December 1859, died 1860; and her twin Helen, died also in 1860; Robina, born 2 March 1861, died April 1861; Mary, born 11 September 1863; James, born 20 December 1865, died 1866; Murdoch, born 15 September 1867. In 1881 Margaret Murray was shown on the census as a widow, farming seven acres. Her daughter, Mary, was with her plus son Murdo. Margaret's mother Ellen, 92 and blind, was also with them. Ellen Murray died later that same year. Margaret's parents were also at Corbuie and Corshellach - I think it is the same place. They had nine children - will email you full details. Helen Murray was born 11 December 1800 daughter of Robert Murray and Margaret Murray of Langwell, Rogart. I will send you details of this family also. Hope this helps. Sorry can't help you on the Ross side. Best wishes Christine chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Linda Jordan [mailto:ljordan1@airmail.net] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 7:20 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ross/Murray/Sutherland/Sinclair Hi: Looking for info on my grandfather's family. 1. Alexander ROSS, married Margaret MURRAY, 09 Jan 1853, Creich. Children: Alexander (my great grandfather), Isabella, Helen, Margaret, Robina, James, Murdo. I think Helen & Margaret were twins. 2. Alexander ROSS, born in Creich, 19 Mar 1856, married Jane SUTHERLAND on 26 Dec 1879, Dalchork, Lairg. Children: John, Margaret Henderson, Alexander, Mary, Donald (my grandfather), Peter & Barbara. Alexander, was married to Mary Sinclair also, I believe. I think Jane SUTHERLAND died when Barbara (b. abt 1892) was a baby. 3. Jane SUTHERLAND's parents: John Sutherland & Margaret Henderson. Of course these first names and surnames have to be the most common names in this part of Scotland, which doesn't make finding any of them any easier. Linda Jordan from Bedford, TX (between Dallas/Ft. Worth) ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

> Hi, Everyone, I am taking up Christine's suggestion and explaining my interests. My great great and my gt gt gt grandfather on my mother's side were from Durness in Sutherland. John Ogilvie and his wife Jessie McIntosh who lived in Durness and were married in Tongue 10/3/1864. John's father William Ogilvie married Jane Ogilvie but I have no further information about William & Jane. Any information abouth them would be greatly appreciated. The Ogilvies then moved south to Morayshire where they have been to this day. Why they were up in Sutherland is a mystery to me and has baffled the rest of the family. I am the only one in the family who has ventured into the realm of genealogy and as a result the other members of the family are waiting with baited breath on my discoveries. Regards Thomas Ogilvie MacPherson

I again listers I am pleased to announce that 36 minute after my initail possting I recieved a reply form none other than the list host who happens to be research ing my same MACKENZIE line!! Now that doesn't happen very often! My name is Rebecca (Becs) and I live in Invercargill, New Zealand. My interest in Sutherland is MACKENZIE and this is my partner's grandma's family. She is still with us and will be very pleased when I pass on my news. I have been doing my own family history since I was 13 (I am now going on 24) but I wish I could have started ten years earlier as most my great grandparents and one great great grandfather were still alive until I was ten! No one else in my family was interested in genealogy before me so no one asked then any questions before they passed away. :( I have no other interests in Sutherland unfortunately but the rest of my research ranges from Shetland Islands to Aberdeen, Isle of Skye, various counties in England and Glamorgan Wales. My partners maternal grandfather was from Northern Ireland and that will be my biggest challenge yet. In new Zealand my families went to every possible area and then somehow met up in Wanganui in the North Island in the last three generations. So we were a gypsie lot which makes it all very interesting as I have learnt a lot about a lot of places and history. Well that's me, I hope I haven't gone on too much, but I love genealogy and all the helpful people I have met. Becs

I am not sure that Corshellach and Corbuie are the same. There is a Corshellach up behind Bonar Bridge (parish of Creich) and there was a family still living there when I was a child ('1929-1940) - I think they were Calders. Don't know if this is any help. Elspeth

Hi: Looking for info on my grandfather's family. 1. Alexander ROSS, married Margaret MURRAY, 09 Jan 1853, Creich. Children: Alexander (my great grandfather), Isabella, Helen, Margaret, Robina, James, Murdo. I think Helen & Margaret were twins. 2. Alexander ROSS, born in Creich, 19 Mar 1856, married Jane SUTHERLAND on 26 Dec 1879, Dalchork, Lairg. Children: John, Margaret Henderson, Alexander, Mary, Donald (my grandfather), Peter & Barbara. Alexander, was married to Mary Sinclair also, I believe. I think Jane SUTHERLAND died when Barbara (b. abt 1892) was a baby. 3. Jane SUTHERLAND's parents: John Sutherland & Margaret Henderson. Of course these first names and surnames have to be the most common names in this part of Scotland, which doesn't make finding any of them any easier. Linda Jordan from Bedford, TX (between Dallas/Ft. Worth)

Hi everyone, I was born in Edinburgh and lived there until 1954 when I emigrated to Canada. I now live near Toronto. My MORRISON ancestors lived in Lerin, Durness and I have traced my roots as far back as the OPR goes. However, I still listen-in, hoping that some relative will post an interest and help complete some branches of our tree. I have a copy of a transcript of the Durness Parish Register from 1764 to 1814. This has more detail than the IGI, i.e occupations and in many cases aliases (gaelic patronymics , e.g. MacUilleamMacUisdeanMhicEachainRuaidh, i.e son of William son of Hugh son of Hector-the-red.) This allows you to confirm the line of descent, which is useful in Durness at least because there are for example many many Hugh Morrisons. If anyone would like the Durness P R checked during this period, I would be glad to do so. Good hunting, Ian Morrison ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Stokes Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:07 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Exciting time on the list Hello all list members Thought you would like to know that we now have over 150 subscribers on this list. As many of these are recent I thought it would be a good idea to reintroduce ourselves to each other. This list is already becoming known as a fun, succesful and very helpful place to be. Couple of points to make life fair for everyone – when replying to the list (unless it is a private answer) please remember to use your REPLY TO ALL key and not simply reply. This allows everyone to see your answer and keeps conversation flowing. A number of people have commented to me that they never see the answers! We have had a large number of succesful matches on this list – nice for folks to know. For the newcomers, welcome. I look after this list – not brilliantly but do my best. I am a Scot born and bred in Edinburgh and live in England. My father was the first of his family to be born away from the family home in Rogart. My Murray family came from Rhemusaig which is geographically in Rogart but comes under Dornoch parish. My Mackenzies are from Achillie and Torbreck, Rogart; my Mackays from Torbreck, Kinnauld and Achillie, Rogart. I am interested in all families in the Rogart, Dornoch and Golspie areas. I have lots of info on Murrays, Mackays, Mackenzies, Grants, Gordons, Duffs and numerous other names and am happy to do look ups for you. Best wishes Christine chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2<br clear=all><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p>