I am new to this list and would be interested to hear from anyone with information about Lachlan ROSS, grieve/bailiff for Alexander CLARKE at Eriboll, Durness. Lachlan was born in Kincardine, Ross in 1791 and died aged 88. His first wife was Anne FRASER (1791-1837) and his second wife was Hannah MATHER, born in 1815 at the height of the Clearances as the illegitimate daughter of Thomas MATHER (manager of a sheep farm who came from Northumberland) and Kit McKENZIE, thought to be in his employ. Lachlan and Hannah had 6 children (Lachlan had 5 from his first marriage) The eldest, John Clark ROSS (b.1841) and his younger brother William (b.1850) emigrated to Texas and founded Rossville in Atascosa County. Annie Fraser ROSS is our ancestor and moved to London after the death of Lachlan in 1879 to work in service for a Mary Elizabeth JONES. She later married Alexander MACKAY (also from Sutherland) and settled in Glasgow. Thomas died aged 15 and is buried with Lachlan and Hannah in Arnaboll Burial Ground I would be interested to hear from any descendants of the other two children James (bap.12 Aug 1844 Durness Free Church) Alexander Robert (born 23 Feb 1856 Eriboll Sue Mackay South Wales

This list is transcribed from "The Pictou Book" by George MacLaren pub 1954 . Reference # given for lists apply in N.S. Archives BETSY also called Hope by settlers June 10 1767 30? passengers frm Philadelphia. HECTOR Sept 15 1773 189 pass 18 children died 1 born DUNKFIELD 1791 most pass removed to Cape Breton and Antigonish (probably Catholic from west of Scotland) ? 1791 650 emigrants embarked in Glasgow SARAH 1801 frm Fort William 350 pass 50 smallpox deaths. DOVE 1801 frm Aberdeen 219 pass GOOD INTENT 1801 Aberdeen 3 months passage NORA 1801 frm Fort william 16 wks 500 pass 65 children die smallpox most go to Truro, PEI or C Breton ALEX 1801......... ? 1802 370 Island of Barra all R C's sent to Pictou Island then C B or Antigonish FAVOURITE 1803 frm Ullapool 500 pass arrived Aug 3 -- 5 weeks 3 days COMMERCE 1803 frm Glasgow ALEXANDER 1803 Lewis SIR PHILIP SYDNEY 1805 ANN SHIELDS 1812 frm Stornaway PRINCE WILLIAM 1815 (at least 123 from Sutherlandshire ( mostly McKay) according to Land Grant petition dated 30 Sept 1815) AURORA 1815 FRM LEITH 70 pass ELLEN 1815 frm Loch Laxford 156 pass GOOD INTENT 1816 Aberdeen HOPE 1817 Greenock EMITY 1817 FRANCES ANN 1817 frm Loch Broom 400 pass Norman McLeod came in this vessel. ROWENA 1818 PERSEVERANCE 1818 150 pass SPECULATOR 1819 23 pass frm Lochaber LOUISA 1819 frm Aberdeen 285 pass frm Tobermory 4 births ANN 1819 60 pass from Cromarty VICTORY 1819 settlers from Canna DUNLAP 1820 frm Tobermory 35 days THOMPSONS PACKET 1821 frm Dumfries 80 pass 30 days UNION 1822 frm Greenock 80 pass 48 days THOMPSONS PACKET 1822 frm Dumfries 133 pass 35 days HARMONY 1822 LOOK UP 1822 frm Dumfries 133 pass 35 days THETIS 1828 frm Greenock 30 pass CAROLINE 1828 frm Fort William 36 pass MERMAID 1829 with pass from Thetis which was wrecked off Cape Breton... no lives lost only all their baggage. HERO 1829 frm Greenock 157 pass going to Mining Companies NERO 1829 Greenock TWO SISTERS 1829 frm Clyde 30 pass CORSAIR 1830 frm Greenock 38 pass CORSAIR 1831 frm Cromarty 161 pass 49 days ROVER 1831 frm Cromarty 116 pass LORD BROUGHAM 1831 frm Inverness INDUSTRY 1831 frm Inverness 43 days MERCATOR 1832 frm Greenock 181 pass 30 days SYLVANUS 1832 frm Cromarty 196 pass 52 days CANADA 1832 frm Inverness 103 pass PHOENIX 1832 frm Greenock 132 pass CHARLOTTE KERR 1832 frm Glasgow/Tobermory 98 pass BLAGDON 1832 frm Cromarty JANE KEY 1833 frm Cromarty and Thurso 106 pass 46 days ZEPHER 1833 frm Inverness 51 pass 42 days ECONOMIST 1833 frm Leith 42 pass ROBERT & MARGARET frm Cromarty 66 pass CHARLOTTE KERR 1833 frm Islay CHARLES HOCKIN 1833 frm Glasgow 50 pass PHOENIX 1833 CHIEFTAIN 1834 frm Cromarty 119 pass WM HENRY 1834 frm Cromarty 102 pass MERCATOR 1834 frm Greenock 47 pass PARAGON 1835 frm Cromarty 100 pass ANN GRANT 1836 frm Greenock 11 pass ISABELLA April 1837 frm Greenock 190 pass ISABELLA July 1837 frm Greenock 24 pass ISABELLA 1838frm Greenock 37 adults ISABELLA 1839 frm Greenock 118 miners DEVERON 1840 frm Glasgow 140 pass chiefly from Sutherlandshire ISABELLA May 1840 frm Greenock 33 days 37 pass ISABELLA Aug 1840 frm Greenock with passengers OSPRAY 1840 66 pass LADY GREY 1841 135 pass.. 135 pass typhus aboard ship quarantined UNIVERSE 1841 frm Thurso 105 passengers CLEOSTRATUS 1842 frm Glasgow 64 pass 45 days LADY EMILY 1842 frm Loch Laxford 150 pass greater part land at Pictou SUPERIOR 1842 partial list of pass MG100 vol 167 #8 and #6 ISABELLA 1842 frm Glasgow 54 pass Lost in ice Cape North C.B. pass arrive via schooner in good health. EAGLE 1842 frm Glasgow few pass 45 days GEORGE 1843 frm Loch Laxford 307 pass malignant fever and dysentary aboard quarantined 3 months SPECULATOR 1847 ships fever ELLEN 22 May 1848 frm Loch Laxford 154 pass pass list RG1 vol 257 doc 110 HOPE 7 May 1848 frm Glasgow 136 pass List RG1 Vol 257 doc 99 LONDON 12 May 1848 frm Glasgow 33 pass 31 days pass list RG1 Vol 257, doc 104, 131 LONDON 1848 frm Glasgow 19 pass 38 days LULAN 25 Sept 1848 frm Glasgow 167 pass 40 days 3 small pox deaths 15 sick 30 families miners Pass list RG1 Vol 257 doc 167 SARAH BOTSFORD 1849 frm Glasgow 50 pass 39 days frm LIZ ( not the name of a ship!!)

Hi, I have a Rev. MacKenzie listed as minister of Assynt in 1820, if that helps Carolyn

Ritchie transcriptions contd. PL8 Murray Point cemetery James W MURRAY d. 1899 aged 99 wf Margaret d. 1892 aged 93 son James d. 1892 aged 53 Elizabeth d. 1866 aged 26 James MURRAY ---- ---- his son Robert d 1840 aged 9 J.W.Johnston d. 1860 aged 16 PN5 Ironbridge New Glasgow John FRASER Esq of McLellans Brook died July 31 1850 age 84 wf Jannet MURRAY dau of Walter MURRAY of Merigomish d Feb 1792 age 17 Walter MURRAY of Merigomish buried with Jannet no date or age given. PK1 Kenzieville Cemetary Angus MURRAY d. Dec 26 1858 aged 87 wf Elizabeth d Jun 11 1862 age 88 George BRUCE (1805-1900) wf Christy MURRAY (1810-1873) Grace MURRAY wf of Alex ROSS Snr d Oct 19 1868 age 52 Angus MURRAY (1833-1897) wf Mary A Robson (1849-1932) Alexander R MURRAY d June 4 1874 age 11 days son of Stewart MURRAY and wf Mary Liz

Hi Sheryl The closest I have is Christy MUNRO dau of Donald, christened 13 Nov.1794 Golspie. I have the monumental inscriptions for Sutherlandshire so if you can give me a little more detail I may find a record of her. If you find my John MUNRO b.c. 1795 Golspie I would be really excited. Cheers Lizzi in Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: sheryl sharp <sheryl@origin.net.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: MUNRO GOLSPIE > Hi gang, > dose anyone have a CHRISTINA MUNRO b: 1798 Golspie > Sutherland Scotland , would really love to now who her parents are. > thanks heaps > sheryl oz > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Hello Robin, Thank you for your offer. The children of Donald GRANT & Janet McKAY were Mary 1788-1870, John 1790-1809 and Colin c.1792-1871 (my g.g.g.grandfather.) As to Q1. in my message, with a bit of help from Christine and another look at the map of Sutherland I found Rosebank in Clashmore (in the Parish of Dornoch). Regards, Ray Wigraft rwigraft@melbpc.org.au Melbourne, Victoria Australia > HI > I looked in the IGI and the only Donald Grant and Janet McKay I could find > was this one, which sure does not come close to the one your looking for. > Donald GRANT > Sex: M > > Marriage(s): > Spouse: Janet MCKAY > Marriage: 10 Dec 1848 > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > But there is a Donald Grant who married a Janet Munro in 1786, are you sure > her maiden name was McKay. What were your Donald and Janet's children's > name's, maybe I can find them, and then at least you would have something to > work with. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Wigraft <rwigraft@melbpc.org.au> > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:37 PM > Subject: SUT: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836. Help!!!! > > > >Hello Listers, > > > >My g.g.g.g.grandparents, Donald GRANT & Janet GRANT (nee McKAY) are both > >recorded in the Dornoch Parochial Register as having died both on the same > >day, 27 September 1836. Donald age 89 of Palsy at Dornoch (Parish or Town) > >and > >Janet age 80 at Rosebank. > > > >I find that it is too much of a coincidence that they are recorded as both > >dying on the same day. > > > >Q1. Where is/was Rosebank > > > >Q2. Did anything unusual take place around that time eg. plague, famine, > >clearances etc. > > > >I am open for any suggestions please. > > > >Regards, > > > > Ray Wigraft rwigraft@melbpc.org.au > > Melbourne, Victoria > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You > can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > >============================== > >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > >

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** Kildonan manse was close to the church. In those days there were not such things as excavation reports. Some artefacts from early "digs" in Sutherland found their way into Museums - the Dunrobin Museum contains various artefacts as do the National Museums of Scotland in Edinburgh. The National Monuments Record at the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland should be able to point you in the right direction. You can search online at the Commission's site using CANMORE. The Record is arranged by current 1:10,000 map sheets, so you need to know the sheet reference number. Royal Commission pre-afforrestation survey of Kildonan only covered an area to the north of the church/manse. However, the brief publication does include maps of the remainder of the Strath. No sign of any cairn near the church. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Rena Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] Sent: 26 March 2001 01:23 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Kildonan Manse ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hi, Does anyone know the location of the Kildonan Manse in relation to the church and burial ground? Also, Rev. Donald Sage, in his book "Memorabilia Domestica or Parish Life in the North of Scotland" mentioned that a tumulus near the manse had been excavated in the years before he wrote his manuscript. (The manuscript was written around 1840.) Can someone tell me where I might find a report on the excavation, please? With thanks, Rena ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Liz, Where do you check the Ritchie Records? Kathleen plister@nbnet.nb.ca

I will check the Ritchie list of cemeteries on my next trip but I don't recall seeing a list from Three Brooks. I don't know what area of the county it is in and it is not on the old ( pre 1870 ) map I have on hand. I will check a current map as it has probably survived. Remember he only did 33 out of 150. Also some of those were just little clearings in the woods not adjacent to the church and used for the one or two families in the area. Keeping Grandpa in the barn until Spring when the grave could be dug was also standard practice, I believe. Once I establish the exact location I could see if records have survived in that area. Liz

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** Patrick Sellar did destroy his papers. The information about the Popes comes from the two published volumes of Sutherland Papers covering the period c1800 to 1816, edited by the late Robin Adam and published by the Scottish History Society). These volumes draw on the Sutherland Papers in the National Library of Scotland and also on documents in the Staffordshire Record Office in England. The chance of finding something about one of Sellar's shepherds in the Sutherland Papers is very very slim, particularly for the period you are interested in. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Eckerman [mailto:eckbob@juno.com] Sent: 24 March 2001 22:09 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Isabella MELVILLE ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hi Ronald Patrick, I thought someone on the list told me that Patrick Sellar, manager of Culmaily, destroyed his papers. If there are Culmaily papers I would like to know about them. Why? Because my 3rd great grandfather, Stephen Clark, herded sheep for Mr. Sellar from about 1820 to 1832. I would be most pleased to find anything about Stephen during his Culmaily/Golspie period, before he went to Quebec. Thanks, Bob Eckerman On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:18:10 -0500 "J. Ronald Patrick" <rpatrick@niagara.com> writes: > Hi Sheryl Vic Oz (?): > I would guess that Roberta was a daughter of the following Robert > Pope of > Loth? > > From the Sutherland Papers: (these two entries are notes of Patrick > Sellar) > Vol2 p6, note 1: > 'Robert Pope, tacksman of Navidale, received a wadset of Gartymore, > Achintou > and Liriboll on 27 September 1799'. > > Vol1, Table III, pp238-240: > Wadsets in existence in 1802 but redeemed before 1816: > #11. Gartymore (Loth); held in 1802 by Robert Pope, who disponed to > trustees > in 1808; redeemed in 1815. > > There was another Pope family in the area; I think a brother of > Robert Pope. > There are others who would recognize this family on the list. > Good luck, > Ron > Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sheryl sharp [mailto:sheryl@origin.net.au] > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:04 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Isabella MELVILLE > Hi All, > I have an Isabella MELVILLE, she is also my grt grandmother and she > has a > brother John. > This is my family of Melville's > John MELVILLE b: 1813 Wife Roberta POPE b: 1808 > children: Hector b: 1833, John b: 1835, Isabella b: 1837 > James b: 1840, Alexander b: 1842, Mary b: 1844, > Davidina b: 1847, William b: 1850, Charles b: 1853 > Loth Sutherland Scotland. > > sheryl vic oz > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. > You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & > Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Thought I would copy these two refs. Anything new here which may help? G157 DONALD GRANT married CATHARINE McKAY [born circa 1778] Donald, a smith at Embo, and Catharine (Kate) of Achlian? married on 6 February 1808 in Dornoch (OPR). They had the following children born in Dornoch (IGI): JOHN, born 2 June 1810; HECTOR, born 13 April 1812; ANDREW, born 1 May 1814; DONALD, born 12 May 1816; CHRISTIAN, born 12 May 1817; BARBARA, born 18 January 1821 [died 4 June 1821 whooping cough] (OPR); DONALD, born 28 September 1825 and WILLIAM, born 19 March 1828. G158 DONALD GRANT married 1.CATHERINE McKAY [born circa 1800] [died 9/10/1847] 2. JANE SUTHERLAND Donald in Fishertown, Embo, Dornoch, and Catherine (Kate) married on 4 February 1831 in Dornoch (IGI). They had the following children born in Dornoch (IGI): JOHANNA, born 11 January 1832 Embo [married Alexander Mackay - see Mackay Families K115] (OPR); WILLIAM, born 24 March 1834; ALEXANDER, born 6 June 1836; JANET, born 28 March 1839; HUGH, born 12 January 1841; WILLIAM, born 26 August 1843 [died 6 May 1845 Fishertown of Embo] (DC) and DONALD, born circa 1850 [married Margaret Mackay - see G183] (DC). In 1841 the family were recorded living in Fishertown. Catherine died in 1847 Donald then married Jane Sutherland on 22 December 1848 in Clyne (OPR). They had the following children born in Embo village, Dornoch: DONALD, born circa 1848; KATE, born circa 1849 [married William Mackay - see G099D]; CHRISTY, born circa 1851; ALEXANDER, born 1854 [died 16 October 1855 Embo - aged 1 year] (DC); JOHN, born 28 January 1857 (IGI) and KENNETH born circa 1860 (NC81). Living with the family in 1851 Donald's elder children Johanna and Hugh. In 1861 young Donald was a fisherman like his father. Three of the children attended school. The house had two rooms with windows. In 1881 Donald and Jane had their children, Catherine and Kenneth, a fisherman, living with them. Best wishes Christine chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Dunlop [mailto:marian@albedo.net] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:21 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836. Help!!!! Hi Robin My ggg grandfather was Donald GRANT . I Believe that he was married to Catherine MacKay . I do not have other details regarding this Donald. I do know through my research that a Donald GRANT married to Janet MACKAY,most of this family immigrated to Austraila . Christine has lots of information about Donald and Janet . I am still looking for info regarding Donald GRANT and Catherine MACKAY. marian ----Original Message----- From: Robin VanBelleghem <robinvb@home.com> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836. Help!!!! >HI >I looked in the IGI and the only Donald Grant and Janet McKay I could find >was this one, which sure does not come close to the one your looking for. >Donald GRANT > Sex: M > >Marriage(s): > Spouse: Janet MCKAY > Marriage: 10 Dec 1848 > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland >But there is a Donald Grant who married a Janet Munro in 1786, are you sure >her maiden name was McKay. What were your Donald and Janet's children's >name's, maybe I can find them, and then at least you would have something to >work with. > >Robin > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ray Wigraft <rwigraft@melbpc.org.au> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:37 PM >Subject: SUT: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836. Help!!!! > > >>Hello Listers, >> >>My g.g.g.g.grandparents, Donald GRANT & Janet GRANT (nee McKAY) are both >>recorded in the Dornoch Parochial Register as having died both on the same >>day, 27 September 1836. Donald age 89 of Palsy at Dornoch (Parish or Town) >>and >>Janet age 80 at Rosebank. >> >>I find that it is too much of a coincidence that they are recorded as both >>dying on the same day. >> >>Q1. Where is/was Rosebank >> >>Q2. Did anything unusual take place around that time eg. plague, famine, >>clearances etc. >> >>I am open for any suggestions please. >> >>Regards, >> >> Ray Wigraft rwigraft@melbpc.org.au >> Melbourne, Victoria >> Australia >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >>You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You >can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ >> >>============================== >>Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> > > >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > >============================== >9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists >http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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Hi, Does anyone know the location of the Kildonan Manse in relation to the church and burial ground? Also, Rev. Donald Sage, in his book "Memorabilia Domestica or Parish Life in the North of Scotland" mentioned that a tumulus near the manse had been excavated in the years before he wrote his manuscript. (The manuscript was written around 1840.) Can someone tell me where I might find a report on the excavation, please? With thanks, Rena

The pre 1855 Sutherland Mon. inscriptions show "No 88 Golspie St. Andrew JOHN MELVILLE d. 10/12/1884 age87 & widow ROBERTA POPE d 19/6 1857 age 48 Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Ronald Patrick <rpatrick@niagara.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: RE: Isabella MELVILLE > Hi Sheryl Vic Oz (?): > I would guess that Roberta was a daughter of the following Robert Pope of > Loth? > > From the Sutherland Papers: (these two entries are notes of Patrick Sellar) > Vol2 p6, note 1: > 'Robert Pope, tacksman of Navidale, received a wadset of Gartymore, Achintou > and Liriboll on 27 September 1799'. > > Vol1, Table III, pp238-240: > Wadsets in existence in 1802 but redeemed before 1816: > #11. Gartymore (Loth); held in 1802 by Robert Pope, who disponed to trustees > in 1808; redeemed in 1815. > > There was another Pope family in the area; I think a brother of Robert Pope. > There are others who would recognize this family on the list. > Good luck, > Ron > Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sheryl sharp [mailto:sheryl@origin.net.au] > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:04 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Isabella MELVILLE > Hi All, > I have an Isabella MELVILLE, she is also my grt grandmother and she has a > brother John. > This is my family of Melville's > John MELVILLE b: 1813 Wife Roberta POPE b: 1808 > children: Hector b: 1833, John b: 1835, Isabella b: 1837 > James b: 1840, Alexander b: 1842, Mary b: 1844, > Davidina b: 1847, William b: 1850, Charles b: 1853 > Loth Sutherland Scotland. > > sheryl vic oz > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Surprise, I found John Grant son of Donald and Janet in the IGI but no Colin or Donald and Janet, I wonder what happened to the other three. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Ray Wigraft <rwigraft@melbpc.org.au> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836.(Robin) >Hello Robin, > >Thank you for your offer. > >The children of Donald GRANT & Janet McKAY were Mary 1788-1870, John >1790-1809 and Colin c.1792-1871 (my g.g.g.grandfather.) > >As to Q1. in my message, with a bit of help from Christine and another look >at the map of Sutherland I found Rosebank in Clashmore (in the Parish of >Dornoch). > >Regards, > > Ray Wigraft rwigraft@melbpc.org.au > Melbourne, Victoria > Australia > > > > >> HI >> I looked in the IGI and the only Donald Grant and Janet McKay I could find >> was this one, which sure does not come close to the one your looking for. >> Donald GRANT >> Sex: M >> >> Marriage(s): >> Spouse: Janet MCKAY >> Marriage: 10 Dec 1848 >> Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland >> But there is a Donald Grant who married a Janet Munro in 1786, are you >sure >> her maiden name was McKay. What were your Donald and Janet's children's >> name's, maybe I can find them, and then at least you would have something >to >> work with. >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ray Wigraft <rwigraft@melbpc.org.au> >> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:37 PM >> Subject: SUT: Grant & McKay Deaths 1836. Help!!!! >> >> >> >Hello Listers, >> > >> >My g.g.g.g.grandparents, Donald GRANT & Janet GRANT (nee McKAY) are both >> >recorded in the Dornoch Parochial Register as having died both on the >same >> >day, 27 September 1836. Donald age 89 of Palsy at Dornoch (Parish or >Town) >> >and >> >Janet age 80 at Rosebank. >> > >> >I find that it is too much of a coincidence that they are recorded as >both >> >dying on the same day. >> > >> >Q1. Where is/was Rosebank >> > >> >Q2. Did anything unusual take place around that time eg. plague, >famine, >> >clearances etc. >> > >> >I am open for any suggestions please. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> > Ray Wigraft rwigraft@melbpc.org.au >> > Melbourne, Victoria >> > Australia >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >> >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You >> can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ >> > >> >============================== >> >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> > >> >> > > >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Peter, it was only recently that I found out that Finlay (and yes I have one in my tree, but he's a Mackay) is commonly known as Philip and I am sure a previous lister made reference to it. Christine would probably be able to locate the exact one. John McKay Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: peter_dillon <peter_dillon@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: James MCDONALD bap 21 March 1809 > Hi Listers > > In the IGI is an entry for James MCDONALD supposedly baptised to Hugh > MCDONALD & Elizabeth ANDERSON at Rogart parish on 21 March 1809. > > The entry is WRONG. > > I saw microfilm of the register in 1988 and the name of the father was in > fact extremely difficult to decipher. His name was much scribbled upon and > it was most likely Philip but could also have been Finlay and even Ralph. > No way was it Hugh! the transcriber must have been on something. The > location of the parents in Rogart > parish was Dalnessie. I asked the LDS to do something about the entry some > time ago but nothing has been done. > > Given the name of the mother, the father is most likely Finlay MCDONALD who > was also known as Philip. Finlay MCDONALD & Elizabeth ANDERSON are my > great-great-great-grandparents. > > They had further issue in Rogart parish in 1811 (William) and 1817 (Janet). > Earlier issue were born Laig parish. > > There is no substitute for viewing actual registers. Don't rely on the IGI > even if it says it is parish register data. > > Peter DILLON > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

I seem to have started something rolling with ISABELLA MELLVILLE the one I have married GEORGE ROSS & had a daughter MARGARET ROSS in about 1813 if ISABELLA had a brother JOHN ROSS in about 1810 surely his offspring would be ROSS & ISABELLA MELVILLE 1836? would be from a different family or was she a relative help?? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Sutherland <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Exciting time on the list > My SUTHERLAND ancestors :-JOHN SUTHERLAND died1855? lived at Lady,s Loch > Brora he married HENRIETTA MACKAY 1778 d 10/02/1860 > at Lady,s Loch had a son JOHN SUTHERLAND in 1812 he died on22/91893 in > CLYNE he was a lotter and carter in February 1859 he married JANET(JESSIE) > BANNERMAN aged 24 he was 47 JESSIE,S parents were ALEXANDER BANNERMAN > &ROBERTA MUNRO m. Clyne 11/8/1826. ROBERTA,S parents JAMES MUNRO & ELSPET > SUTHERLAND. ALEXANDER & ROBERTA also had a son JAMES & a daughter > ELSPET.JOHN SUTHERLAND my Great grandad and JANET(JESSIE ) had the following > children all at Lady,s Loch? HENRIETTA 1/8/1861, ALEXANDRINA 3/12/1863, > JOHAN 22/9/1866 & sons JAMES 21/5/1869 & DONALD 10/11/1871 (my Grandad) > Donald lived in Brora all his life and was a Stonemason he died in 1937. On > 5/6/1908 Donald married MARGARET MACBEATH of Rogart daughter of JAMES > MACBEATH & MARGARET SUTHERLAND who married 30/7/1879at Lairg they also had a > son NEIL MACBEATH on 28/3/1881. JAMES MACBEATH was the son of NEIL MACBEATH > b 1807? at Riasg & MARGARET ROSS b/1813? her parents were GEORGE ROSS & > ISABELLA MELVILLE. DONALD SUTHERLAND & MARGARET MACBEATH still have > relatives in Brora.Any help in expanding my list or putting "flesh to bones > would be appreciated" Iain---- Original Message ----- > From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:06 PM > Subject: Exciting time on the list > > > > Hello all list members > > Thought you would like to know that we now have over 150 subscribers on > this > > list. > > As many of these are recent I thought it would be a good idea to > reintroduce > > ourselves to each other. > > This list is already becoming known as a fun, succesful and very helpful > > place to be. > > Couple of points to make life fair for everyone - when replying to the > list > > (unless it is a private answer) please remember to use your REPLY TO ALL > key > > and not simply reply. This allows everyone to see your answer and keeps > > conversation flowing. A number of people have commented to me that they > > never see the answers! > > We have had a large number of succesful matches on this list - nice for > > folks to know. > > For the newcomers, welcome. I look after this list - not brilliantly but > do > > my best. > > I am a Scot born and bred in Edinburgh and live in England. My father was > > the first of his family to be born away from the family home in Rogart. > > My Murray family came from Rhemusaig which is geographically in Rogart but > > comes under Dornoch parish. My Mackenzies are from Achillie and Torbreck, > > Rogart; my Mackays from Torbreck, Kinnauld and Achillie, Rogart. I am > > interested in all families in the Rogart, Dornoch and Golspie areas. > > I have lots of info on Murrays, Mackays, Mackenzies, Grants, Gordons, > Duffs > > and numerous other names and am happy to do look ups for you. > > > > Best wishes > > Christine > > chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk > > > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You > can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Hi Marla, Rhonda, There is a IAGenWeb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajones/scotch/scotch.htm that hosts a segment dedicated to the Scotch Grove (Iowa) Pioneers. This group moved down from the Red River Settlement in 1837. JOHN SUTHERLAND, CATHERINE GRANT's eldest son was a member of this party. The story was written by JOSEPHINE SUTHERLAND and, in most respects, is well-researched. However, it includes some wonderful myths about CATHERINE GRANT and her children, "Little JANET" (Rhonda's ancestor) and ALEXANDER that you might find amusing. When reading this, bear in mind that, as Marla stated, Catherine and her children (except John) came to Ontario in 1815. The events described are historical facts. They occurred after the family left the colony. Catherine Grant did not take part in them. When I have encountered stories that contain incorrect information, I have sometimes wondered whether it would have been better if nothing was written. Repeatedly, I have been surprised to find a wealth of information buried in them. I was sent a copy of this story when I first began researching the family. I had not made a firm connection from my known ancestor, DONALD SUTHERLAND to CATHERINE GRANT until I noted Josephine Sutherland's comment about her correspondence with MARY BRADEN, Catherine's granddaughter. That was a key clue. I did know that Donald's daughter, MARY had married JAMES BRADEN. I had found a firm link between my Bradford, Ontario family and the Scotch Grove family. I learned that Catherine Grant had lived with Donald's family until her death. There are no records of her death and burial, no tombstone but I am fairly certain that she is buried in the same plot as my gg-grandparents. Regards, Rena >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 3/24/2001, 10:33:07 PM, "Manson" <manson@revelstoke.net> wrote regarding Re: CATHERINE GRANT: > Hi Rhonda > I have a bit on Catherine Grant. > Catherine Grant was listed as age 46 when she came over on the 1813 > expedition on the ship Prince of Wales. Her husband died of typhoid fever 2 > Sept. 1813 and the remaining family and passengers wintered at Churchill in > sub-zero weather with few rations. The eldest three children snowshoed from > Churchill to York Factory in April 1814. Catherine and her youngest > Alexander joined them on 25 Aug 1814. Catherine went east to West > Gwillimbury, ON with her sons Donald & Alexander on 16 June 1815. > Hope this helps. It is taken from The Lord Selkirk Association of Rupert's > Land 1812 - 1997 Book. > Marla Manson > > I am new to this list. My 4th great grandmother is Catherine > > GRANT/Sutherland wife of John SUTHERLAND who with their family emigrated > to > > Churchill,Canada in 1813 on the Prince of Wales. > > Much has been written on John and his sons John,John,George and Alexander > on > > the same boat but I cannot find a word on their brave mother Catherine > Grant. > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Hi Ian Thanks for the information unfortunately I already had that and it here I have hit a black hole. Its the information on the William and Jane who were married on 30 Mar 1831 that has me stumped as I don't know where they came from or what they were doing so far north as Ogilvie is not a name that is usually associated with Sutherland. Williams grandson another William moved down to morayshire circa 1890 and the family have been there ever since. If you have any info from Durness that could poss help I would be most greatful. Regards Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Morrison" <ianmorrison@msn.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:16 AM Subject: Re: Exciting time on the list > Hi Tom, > The IGI lists the marriage of William Ogilvie and Jane Ogilvie on 30 Mar 1831. It also lists two children: > Jane Anne Ogilvie, christened 7 May 1832 at Tongue; and > John Ogilvie, christened 27 Feb 1834 at Tongue. > Regards, Ian Morrison > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Macpherson > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:45 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Exciting time on the list > > > > > > > Hi, Everyone, I am taking up Christine's suggestion and explaining my > interests. My great great and my gt gt gt grandfather on my mother's side > were from Durness in Sutherland. John Ogilvie and his wife Jessie McIntosh > who lived in Durness and were married in Tongue 10/3/1864. John's father > William Ogilvie married Jane Ogilvie but I have no further information > about William & Jane. Any information abouth them would be greatly > appreciated. The Ogilvies then moved south to Morayshire where they have > been to this day. Why they were up in Sutherland is a mystery to me and has > baffled the rest of the family. I am the only one in the family who has > ventured into the realm of genealogy and as a result the other members of > the family are waiting with baited breath on my discoveries. > > Regards > > Thomas Ogilvie MacPherson > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html<br clear=all><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p> > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

My Sutherland connection is William SUTHERLAND, born about 1761 He emigrated from Balnavaliach, Sutherlandshire, with the third party of Selkirk Settlers in 1815. He was accompanied by his wife Isabella, age 50, and ftheir four youngest children; Jeremiah (15), Helen (12), Ebeneezer ( 11), and Donald (7). Alexander born about 1790 in Balnavaliach Parish, Kildonan, Scotland William Jr., born about 1792 in Balnavaliach Parish, Kildonan, Scotland died 1813 Katherine born about 1793 in Balnavaliach Parish, Kildonan, Scotland Barbara born about 1795 in Balnavaliach Parish, Kildonan, Scotland Ann born about 1796 in Balnavaliach Parish, Kildonan, Scotland. Kildonan Parish records in Scotland list the christening of William Jr. and Ann. My line Ann SUTHERLAND married John "Cheney" GUNN ( son of Alexander & Christiana GUNN on 29 May 1814 in Knockfin, Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. They emigrated to Canada in 1823 and went to Kildonan, Red River Settlement, Manitoba, Canada I am trying to find information of William & Isabella and their eldest children, Also any info on John & Ann. Does anyone know of an online map where I can find Balnavaliach? Thanks Marla Manson

Hi gang, dose anyone have a CHRISTINA MUNRO b: 1798 Golspie Sutherland Scotland , would really love to now who her parents are. thanks heaps sheryl oz