Hi All, Just reposting my family interests. The first being the family of ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND. He was born February 1756 Golspie and in December 1785 married MARON MCKAY (MACKAY) in Dornoch. Maron died July 1830 at Birichen, Dornoch. They had the following children: David born 1785 Dornoch . James born 1790 Dornoch. John born 1791 Dornoch, Margaret born 1793 Dornoch. John born 1795 Dornoch. Helen born June 1804. (My gg grandmother) Kenneth born 1809. I have not yet been able to verify who their spouses were with the exception of Helen. The surnames I think may be possibilities are ROSS, MACKAY, GRANT, MATHESON, MCLEOD and MCDONALD. My other family is the family of ANGUS MUNRO and CHRISTINA GRAHAM. Angus was born September 1770 in Cromarty and married Christina Graham in 1787. Their first three children William 1788, Hector 1790, Hugh 1793 were all born in Ross & Cromarty . Their next son Donald was born c 1801 Sutherlandshire, but I can find no record of his birth. The next three children Margaret 1802 Dornoch, James 1805 Skibo Dornoch and Christian 1808 Cyderhall Dornoch. Spouse possibles for the above except Donald who married Helen Sutherland in 1826 Dornoch are ROSE, MANN, FRASER and MCKAY. If anyone has a connection with these families or any of the surnames mentioned I would like to hear from them. I know that Sutherland and Munro are very common names but I hope that someone may be able to at least let me know if I am on th right track. Regards, Judy. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi Amanda I see you are looking for someone in NZ who is researching the same name as you. Have you looked at the NZ Society of Genealogists site: http://www.genealogy.org.nz/ Select Resources Then Members Interests Good luck Mary-Ann Farr Christchurch, New Zealand

To add insult to injury here - on researching the NZ Death Indexes at the Registrar General's Office - all Mc and Mac names are spelled Mac e.g. McKay would appear as Mackay. I would have thought in the 1990's we would have paid more attention to detail. Mary-Ann Farr Jimfowler3@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 31/03/2001 20:34:48 GMT Daylight Time, robinvb@home.com > writes: > > << The last name in question is Jestings, at first we thought > the name was from Scotland but I am quite sure that it is not. While > searching the IGI the name Jestings come's up only 6 time's, but on the same > page of the IGI there are other name's that are quite similar but may have > some small spelling differences ie: Jestyn, Jesting, Gestin etc. There are > at least 30 variations to choose from, how does one go about finding the > original spelling. >> > > I have a similar situation in my direct family line of FOWLER which has at > least ten variations through the line both in spelling and pronounciation. As > most of the early records of any name will be phonetic attempts at best - > never forget that Shakespeare spelled his own name at least three different > ways and Robert Burns' father was William Burnes - there will be no correct > version as such only the version that any given clerk or minister chose to > use on any given day. It can be well into the nineteenth century , with the > increase in general literacy and education, before some spellings of surnames > settle down into what we might call the accepted or received version. The > simple answer I suppose would be to say that the earliest version you can > find is the original version and everything after that is a variation. > > I enjoy the challenge and the variety. This family history game wouldn't be > as much fun if our ancestors had all played by our rules. > > A' the best to you and yours > > Jim Fowler Gateshead UK > > http://members.aol.com/chieflymurder > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hugh Mc Farlane of Iona living Assynnt Mary Mc Farlane nee Lamont died assynt born kilmore Margaret Cameron == Lamont born Islay Angus LAMONT === School teacher Bunnessan/ Joseph Lamont Minister of Snizort Loch broom . Alexander Mc Farlane Born Assynt died Glasgow 1927. Son off Hugh . Anyone please??

Hi list, I have been reading the list for a few weeks and think it is time I posted some of my family from this area. Peter Murray b. Kildonan m. Mary Rose in abt.1792, daughter of William Rose and Marjorie Henderson, Mary was b. 1763 in Watten, Caithness. Son: Anderson Murray b. 1802 , Kildonan M. Esther Gunn, daughter of Donald Gunn and Esther Sutherland, their daughter Roberta Murray marr. John Murray son of William & ?. Their oldest son John Murray was my great grandfather, he married Christina Smith from Lerwick,Shetland Isles. John and Christina remained in the islands for the rest of their lives, they had four children. My question is this, John Murray who married Roberta is listed as a Chelsea Pensioner and as far as I can tell is dead by 1856, I have been unable to find his death, who his mother was and anything about his time in the service, so he is my brick wall. Any information at all would be welcome, and I would be glad to share what I have on the rest of this family, (which is quite a bit) with anyone looking for the same 'roots'. Catherine. p.s. I love this list, congratulations Linda and Christine.

Lyndall: Here's some Cluness info that I found in some writings of Rev. A.M. Sinclair which may have been printed in the Eastern Chronicle, New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, Canada(don't have any dates). Not sure if any of these are connected to yours or not but thought I would post them anyhow. "The first Cluness lived at Cracaig, in Loth, came from Ross-shire. He was factor to the Earl of Sutherland. His son, who succeeded him as factor, had two sons, Gordon and John. Gordon entered the army, and rose to the rank of colonel. He had three sons, Archibald, William and Gordon. Archibald died in the West Indies. William was major in the army. He was a tall, stout and handsome man. He retired from the army at quite an early age. He resided at Cracaif, where he died in 1829. Gordon, youngest son of Colonel Cluness, was a captain in the army. He fell from his horse at Bonar Bridge and was drowned." Another: "I was told that Angus McKay, Donald McKay, of the Woodhouse, Donald Bruce, Donald Douglas, John McLeod, Alexander Grant, and George, son of Major William Cluness, came to Pictou on the same ship. Donald Bruce came by the ship Harmony in 1822. This information I have from Hector H. Bruce - a man who has taken more interest than any one else in the history of Barney's River and to whom I feel very grateful for his efforts in collecting historical facts. His letters in the Eastern Chronicle in 1886 were exceedingly interesting." Cathy MacKenzie Halifax, NS VIEW MY GENEALOGY WEBSITE: http://members.tripod.com/camack48 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndall" <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > As there are many more people on this list now, I thought I'd ask if again > if anyone is seeking CLUNES from Loth or Helmsdale; particularly Gordon > CLUNES.

Good morning, Buried next to my gg-grandparents at the Auld Kirk in Bradford, Ontario, Canada, are ANGUS SUTHERLAND and his mother, ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND. I have no idea on whether there is a connection between our families, so this is a shot in the dark. ANGUS, his mother and a sister, BETSY came to Canada with Selkirk's settlers on the Prince of Wales in 1813. They came from Auchraich. The passenger list gives ELIZABETH's age as 60 (b. 1753). According to her tombstone inscription, she was a native of Sutherlandshire, who died 19 Feb. 1841 at age 90 (b. 1751). BETSY SUTHERLAND died on tuberculosis shortly after the ship landed in Canada. The passenger list gives her age as 18 (b. 1795). The passenger list gives ANGUS' age as 20 (b. 1793). According to the tombstone, ANGUS died 24 Mar 1885, aged 103 years (b. 1782). The Simcoe County Archives has a receipt for a money order that ANGUS and another man named (William???) Sutherland sent to Scotland. The recipient was CATHERINE SUTHERLAND. I did not copy the details, since I did not consider the possibility of a connection (nor the extent that I would succumb to genealogy). Does anyone know this family? With thanks, Rena

Hi Lyndall, Have you got the 1881 census because your Gordon is at Lillieshall Street, Helmsdale with his daughter Christina? Sheila Mackay

Greetings listers. This is my first post to the list although I have been a member for 2 weeks now. I have attached below a generation report from family tree maker, showing my Sutherlands. Starting in Dornoch, then to Nova Scotia and finally to New Zealand (via Australia) If anybody has any links or information about this family I would love to hear from you. My biggest brick wall is finding the Parents of my Angus Sutherland b. c. 1775. it seems the records for this time are missing. look forward to hearing from you. regards Keith Maynard Descendants of Angus Sutherland Generation No. 1 1. ANGUS4 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1775 in Proncy , Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland., and died 21 April 1841 in Black River, Pictou, Nova Scotia, Canada. He married ISABELLA GORDON 14 June 1811 in Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland., daughter of ROBERT GORDON and MARGARET MCKAY. Notes for ANGUS SUTHERLAND: Angus and Isabella along with young Margaret emigrated to Nova Scotia in 1812 aboard the brig "Ann Shields" they settled in a community called Plainfield, which is west of Scotsburn and east of West Branch. Children of ANGUS SUTHERLAND and ISABELLA GORDON are: 2. i. ROBERT5 SUTHERLAND, b. 1825, Pictou co., Nova Scotia, Canada; d. Dannevirke, New Zealand. 3. ii. MARGARET SUTHERLAND, b. 17 March 1812, Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland.; d. 1889, Antigonish, Nova Scotia.. iii. JOHN SUTHERLAND, b. Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. iv. MARY HELEN SUTHERLAND, b. Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; m. ALEXANDER MCKAY. v. CHRISTY SUTHERLAND, b. Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; m. JAMES GORDON. vi. BETSY SUTHERLAND, b. Nova Scotia. vii. JANE SUTHERLAND, d. Scotsburn, Nova Scotia, Canada. viii. CHRISTIAN SUTHERLAND, b. Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. 4. ix. CATHERINE (KITTY) SUTHERLAND, b. 1824, Plainfield, Nova Scotia, Canada; d. 26 November 1918, West Branch, Nova Scotia, Canada. 5. x. ANGUS SUTHERLAND, b. May 1820, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. 6. xi. ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND, b. 1827, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. xii. JEAN SUTHERLAND. Generation No. 2 2. ROBERT5 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1825 in Pictou co., Nova Scotia, Canada, and died in Dannevirke, New Zealand. He married MARY ANN WALKER 7 December 1858 in St Andrews Presbyterian Church, Melbourne, Australia, daughter of JOHN WALKER and ISABELLA RANDELS. Children of ROBERT SUTHERLAND and MARY WALKER are: 7. i. JOHN6 SUTHERLAND, b. 17 August 1862, Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; d. 30 August 1927, Mamaku, New Zealand. ii. ANGUS SUTHERLAND, b. October 1860, Collingwood, Melbourne, Australia. iii. ROBERT SUTHERLAND, b. 17 August 1862. iv. MARY ANNE SUTHERLAND. v. ISABELLA SUTHERLAND. 3. MARGARET5 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 17 March 1812 in Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland., and died 1889 in Antigonish, Nova Scotia.. She married ALEXANDER ROBERT SUTHERLAND 1830 in <Marshy Hope,Pictou County, Nova Scotia, Canada>. Children of MARGARET SUTHERLAND and ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND are: 8. i. GEORGE6 SUTHERLAND, b. 22 May 1831. ii. ISABEL SUTHERLAND, b. 20 June 1833. iii. MARION SUTHERLAND, b. 2 April 1835. iv. ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND, b. 22 May 1837. v. CHRISTY SUTHERLAND, b. 17 March 1845. vi. ROBERT SUTHERLAND, b. 29 March 1847. vii. ISABELL SUTHERLAND, b. 4 November 1849. viii. CATHERINE SUTHERLAND, b. 11 June 1854. 4. CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1824 in Plainfield, Nova Scotia, Canada, and died 26 November 1918 in West Branch, Nova Scotia, Canada. She married DUNCAN MURRAY, son of WILLIAM MURRAY and CATHERINE ROSS. Notes for DUNCAN MURRAY: Duncans Father, William Lived with Catherine and Duncan until he died at the age of 103. Children of CATHERINE SUTHERLAND and DUNCAN MURRAY are: 9. i. ANGUS6 MURRAY, b. 1854, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. ii. WILLIAM (BILLY THE SHEEP) MURRAY, b. 1856, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; m. MARGARET MURRAY. 10. iii. JOHN ROBERT MURRAY, b. 1858, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. 11. iv. CATHERINE MURRAY, b. 1861, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; d. West Branch, Nova Scotia, Canada. 12. v. ISABELLA MURRAY, b. 1865, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. vi. ALEXANDER MURRAY, b. 1867, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. Notes for ALEXANDER MURRAY: alexander moved to Idaho U.S.A and lived at Blackbore 13. vii. THOMAS GEORGE MURRAY, b. 1869, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; d. 1929, Four mile brook, Nova Scotia, Canada. 5. ANGUS5 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born May 1820 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. He married ANNIE HATCH 13 August 1864. Children of ANGUS SUTHERLAND and ANNIE HATCH are: i. JOHN H6 SUTHERLAND, b. 7 July 1867, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. ii. DANIEL SUTHERLAND, b. 5 July 1871, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. iii. MAUD SUTHERLAND, b. Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. 6. ALEXANDER5 SUTHERLAND (ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1827 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. He married CHRISTY SUTHERLAND 24 May 1866 in Rogers Hill, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, daughter of GEORGE SUTHERLAND and MARGARET MURRAY. Children of ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND and CHRISTY SUTHERLAND are: i. ANGUS H6 SUTHERLAND, b. 1867, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. ii. GEORGE R SUTHERLAND, b. 1869, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. iii. ISABELLA SUTHERLAND, b. 1871, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. iv. CATHERINE SUTHERLAND, b. 1871, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. v. DANIEL W SUTHERLAND, b. 1873, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. vi. MARGARET SUTHERLAND, b. 1859, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. Generation No. 3 7. JOHN6 SUTHERLAND (ROBERT5, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 17 August 1862 in Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, and died 30 August 1927 in Mamaku, New Zealand. He married ELIZABETH JANE DREW 15 September 1887 in Makotuku, Ormondville, New Zealand, daughter of GEORGE DREW and MARY WARDEN. Children of JOHN SUTHERLAND and ELIZABETH DREW are: 14. i. ETHEL MAY7 SUTHERLAND, b. 20 October 1888, Makotuku, Ormondville, New Zealand; d. 31 January 1964, Te Aroha, New zealand. 15. ii. JESSIE EMMA SUTHERLAND, b. 28 February 1892, Woodville, New Zealand.; d. 1962, Wellington, New Zealand. 16. iii. ROBERT ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND, b. 23 December 1896, Dannevirke, New Zealand; d. 7 March 1957, Auckland, New Zealand. iv. WILLIAM GEORGE SUTHERLAND, b. 24 March 1901, Dannevirke, New Zealand; d. Tauranga; m. ELIZABETH ANNE KARL, 22 October 1928, Mamaku New Zealand. CLARENCE JOHN SUTHERLAND, b. 21 September 1903, Dannevirke, Hawkes Bay, New Zealand; d. 6 June 1922, Mamaku New Zealand. 17. vi. DOROTHY SUTHERLAND, b. 1894, Dannevirke, New Zealand. 18. vii. NGIRA JEAN SUTHERLAND, b. 17 October 1911, Masterton New Zealand; d. 9 February 1986, Gisborne, New Zealand. viii. ELIZABETH (CISSIE) MARY SUTHERLAND, b. 20 October 1890, Matamata, New Zealand; m. ALEXANDER NICHOL. 19. ix. ANGUS FRED SUTHERLAND, b. Masterton, New Zealand; d. Gisborne, New Zealand. 8. GEORGE6 SUTHERLAND (MARGARET5, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 22 May 1831. He married MARGARET HUNTER 20 November 1860. Children of GEORGE SUTHERLAND and MARGARET HUNTER are: i. CATHERINE ISABEL7 SUTHERLAND, b. 17 September 1863. ii. BARBARA SUTHERLAND, b. 16 November 1861. iii. MARGARET SOPHIA SUTHERLAND, b. 31 October 1865. 9. ANGUS6 MURRAY (CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1854 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. He married BARBARA RITCHIE OR MACMILLAN. Children of ANGUS MURRAY and BARBARA MACMILLAN are: i. SPENCE7 MURRAY. ii. EARL MURRAY. iii. MADGE MURRAY. iv. ISOBEL MURRAY. 10. JOHN ROBERT6 MURRAY (CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1858 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. He married SARAH ROSS, daughter of JAMES ROSS and ISABELLE HARBOURNE. Children of JOHN MURRAY and SARAH ROSS are: i. HELEN7 MURRAY, m. WALTER MCKENZIE. 20. ii. JOHN R MURRAY, b. 1902, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia; d. 1979. iii. PAULINE C MURRAY, b. 1896. iv. MARGUERITA W MURRAY. 11. CATHERINE6 MURRAY (CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1861 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia, and died in West Branch, Nova Scotia, Canada. She married HENRY MARSHAL. Children of CATHERINE MURRAY and HENRY MARSHAL are: i. INFANT7 MARSHAL, b. 1879. ii. HENRY ALEXANDER MARSHAL. Notes for HENRY ALEXANDER MARSHAL: Henry Murray lived at Wallace, Idaho. 12. ISABELLA6 MURRAY (CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1865 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. She married WILLIAM BAILLIE, son of GEORGE BAILLIE and NANCY MACKAY. Children of ISABELLA MURRAY and WILLIAM BAILLIE are: 21. i. ANNA7 BAILLIE. ii. CATHERINE BAILLIE, m. MURRAY BAILLIE. 22. iii. MACK BAILLIE. iv. MURRAY BAILLIE, d. Vancouver, Canada. v. HATTIE BAILLIE. vi. JOHN BAILLIE. 13. THOMAS GEORGE6 MURRAY (CATHERINE (KITTY)5 SUTHERLAND, ANGUS4, ANGUS3, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1869 in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia, and died 1929 in Four mile brook, Nova Scotia, Canada. He married (1) MARY MACKENZIE, daughter of WILLIAM MACKENZIE and JANET MURRAY. He married (2) ELISABETH BAIN. Children of THOMAS MURRAY and MARY MACKENZIE are: 23. i. JENNY7 MURRAY, b. 1895; d. 1982. ii. IRENE MURRAY, b. 1892; d. 1924, West Branch, Nova Scotia, Canada. iii. DUNCAN MURRAY.

Just had to annouce this---this is my GGG Grandfather, the last entry you posted. I'm still searching for his ancestors and siblings. I do know that he had one sister Ann McKenzie who married William Sutherland and they emigrated to Barney's River, NS, in 1820. My William McKenzie married Catherine Sutherland in Scotland. Still trying to find her ancestors and siblings. William and Catherine emigrated to Barney's River in 1803. > Wm MACKENZIE at Barneys River in his 62nd year A native of Sutherlandshire. > Mackenzie obtained a pastor and a library for Barneys River P.O. 20 May > 1834 p 79 Cathy MacKenzie Halifax, NS VIEW MY GENEALOGY WEBSITE: http://members.tripod.com/camack48 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Mason" <liz@mason.ca> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:53 AM Subject: Pictou Co early marrs and deaths from newspapers > Another useful book from NS Archives - Marriages and Deaths from Pictou > County--too many to transcribe but here are a few MURRAY marriages and I > picked out some of the oldies with Hector/Sutherland connections from the > deaths. > Wm MACKENZIE at Barneys River in his 62nd year A native of Sutherlandshire. > Mackenzie obtained a pastor and a library for Barneys River P.O. 20 May > 1834 p 79

Oh well I have just proved that I really do make mistakes. I misread 1918 for 1818. I shall keep quiet in future Liz

Did you find a passenger list for the Ann Sheilds? if so where. Also 50 people will probably email you to point out the typo of Kitty dying before she was born! Glad to know others make mistakes Liz

In my line I have a Nelly (Helen) SUTHERLAND married to a Alexander MATHESON 19 Dec 1818 Dornoch This would mean she was 14 if she was yours born in 1804 which seems a tad young but I daresay legal in those days. Her first child that I found was born in a respectable 1825 but there maybe others before that. The children are all baptised in Dornoch Mary 22 Mar 1825 Alexander 25 May 1831 Janet 10 Oct 1835 Helen 16 Oct 1837 David 27 Feb 1838 Don't know if this helps Liz

Yes, Darthy, IGI does stand for Internation Genealogical Index. A very useful tool but one that needs careful checking back to source - normally old parish registers. You can find it at www.familysearch.com Christine -----Original Message----- From: Darthy [mailto:darthy@telusplanet.net] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:15 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet Hi All, I'm fairly new to genealogy, and would like to know what the IGI is in the last couple of messages? Is it International Genealogical Index? Thank you Darthy -----Original Message----- From: Robin VanBelleghem <robinvb@home.com> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: March 31, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet >Hi Christine > >I know this is an of the topic question and I'm sorry for it but I have >asked you this question because you are certainly quite knowledgeable about >genealogy >Sorry if my explanation of the name's and variations was hard to understand, >I just couldn't think of how to explain the problem, so I hope I get it >right this time. The last name in question is Jestings, at first we thought >the name was from Scotland but I am quite sure that it is not. While >searching the IGI the name Jestings come's up only 6 time's, but on the same >page of the IGI there are other name's that are quite similar but may have >some small spelling differences ie: Jestyn, Jesting, Gestin etc. There are >at least 30 variations to choose from, how does one go about finding the >original spelling. > >Thank-You >Robin > >-----Original Message----- >From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:03 PM >Subject: RE: Gosh it is quiet > > >>Do you mean the correct form of a name? Not clear what you mean - give >some >>examples? >>Christine >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] >>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:22 PM >>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet >> >>Hi All >> >>Your right Christine it is awfully quite, I'm still waiting and hoping some >>information will come through for me on Donald Gibson, and periodically I >>stick my nose in and try to help someone else. But I noticed there hasn't >>even been many people on the mailing list. Say Christine how do you find >out >>what an original last name is, if you there is about 30 different >variations >>of it. Any Idea's >> >>Robin >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:41 PM >>Subject: Gosh it is quiet >> >> >>>Hi list >>>We have even more new members on this list now. 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Hello Michelle You did not mention having seen the 1881 census so looked it up for you. I found your family in Assynt in 1881: Alexander Stewart, crofter, aged 60, born Assynt Wife Margaret, aged 52, born Assynt Son Donald, fisherman, age 30, born Assynt Son John, fisherman, age 25, born Assynt William, son, scholar, aged 16, born Assynt Son, Norman, scholar, aged 11, born Assynt I also had a look in the Graveyard Inscriptions at Nedd - no sign of Alexander and wife Margaret but may be some sons. Christine -----Original Message----- From: SeaWitched62@aol.com [mailto:SeaWitched62@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:48 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: stewart roll call ok figured i would join the roll call so here it goes my gt grandmother wa Mary Kelman Stewart born in 1888 at Nicholas Aberdeen Scotland daughter of John Stewart and Elizabeth Kelman so far i havent found any siblings for mary and i have been able to trace Johns death. John Stewart was born at Nedd Sutherland 1856 son of Alexander Stewart and Margaret Kerr....(siblings Donald, William, John,John, Margaret) I was unable to find any details of Alexanders birth but his death was in 1885 he was 72...son of Donald STewart and Janet Morrison he died at Nedd assynt Donald Stuart/Stewart born around 1787 the only info i have is from the 1841 for donald and it says he was born in this country...not much help grrrr he married Jannet Morrison in 1810 with that contract that i previously posted my brick wall is findin where donald was born and his parents...i have heard that all the Stewarts from Nedd were descended from one who came up from appin ...in the late 1770's ....but i have not yet been able to prove this ...any ideas of what i should do next ??? thankin u Michele ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Thank you Christine, I will search that site out too. I have been very fortunate in others sharing their research. I have Information from Pat Mccloy's research, and of course HBC, which he (Pat)also did a lot of research for. Have yet to check out Glen Bow Museum in Calgary. Darthy -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: April 1, 2001 2:59 AM Subject: RE: Gosh it is quiet >Yes, Darthy, IGI does stand for Internation Genealogical Index. A very >useful tool but one that needs careful checking back to source - normally >old parish registers. >You can find it at www.familysearch.com >Christine > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Darthy [mailto:darthy@telusplanet.net] >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:15 PM >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet > >Hi All, > >I'm fairly new to genealogy, and would like to know what the IGI is in the >last couple of messages? Is it International Genealogical Index? >Thank you >Darthy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robin VanBelleghem <robinvb@home.com> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: March 31, 2001 12:32 PM >Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet > > >>Hi Christine >> >>I know this is an of the topic question and I'm sorry for it but I have >>asked you this question because you are certainly quite knowledgeable about >>genealogy >>Sorry if my explanation of the name's and variations was hard to >understand, >>I just couldn't think of how to explain the problem, so I hope I get it >>right this time. The last name in question is Jestings, at first we thought >>the name was from Scotland but I am quite sure that it is not. While >>searching the IGI the name Jestings come's up only 6 time's, but on the >same >>page of the IGI there are other name's that are quite similar but may have >>some small spelling differences ie: Jestyn, Jesting, Gestin etc. There are >>at least 30 variations to choose from, how does one go about finding the >>original spelling. >> >>Thank-You >>Robin >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:03 PM >>Subject: RE: Gosh it is quiet >> >> >>>Do you mean the correct form of a name? Not clear what you mean - give >>some >>>examples? >>>Christine >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] >>>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:22 PM >>>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet >>> >>>Hi All >>> >>>Your right Christine it is awfully quite, I'm still waiting and hoping >some >>>information will come through for me on Donald Gibson, and periodically I >>>stick my nose in and try to help someone else. But I noticed there hasn't >>>even been many people on the mailing list. Say Christine how do you find >>out >>>what an original last name is, if you there is about 30 different >>variations >>>of it. Any Idea's >>> >>>Robin >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >>>To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:41 PM >>>Subject: Gosh it is quiet >>> >>> >>>>Hi list >>>>We have even more new members on this list now. They will be thinking it >>>>has gone to sleep! >>>>For those of us in Britain I read today that the 2001 census forms will >be >>>>delivered to us all soon. I also read somewhere that it would be a good >>>>idea to photocopy the completed form when you have filled it in and file >>it >>>>away with your birth certificates, etc. Save our descendants hunting for >>>us >>>>the way we hunt for our ancestors! >>>>Oh if only some of mine had done this!! >>>> >>>>Best wishes >>>>Christine >>>>chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk >>>> >>>>Highland Hearts >>>>http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>>>Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 >>>> >>>> >>>>==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >>>>You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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Robin, Not sure if you misread my email, but the first letter of Iestyn is an 'i' (not an 'l'); it's pronounced as if it were a 'Y' --- as in English 'yes-tin'. I have often wondered about that typical Armenian personal name ending '-ian' --- so now I know! The Welsh for 'son' is 'mab', earlier, 'map'. You'll have guessed that it's the P-Celtic (Welsh/Cornish/Breton) version of Q-Celtic (Scottish/Manx/Irish Gaelic) 'mac'. Best of luck in your search Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin VanBelleghem" <robinvb@home.com> To: "Sara Thomas" <sethomas@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 4:58 AM Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet Hi Everyone I checked on the IGI for Lestyn there was 2 of them from Wales there is a couple also of Jestyn and Jestin, they are exactly how you suggested Sara with the ap in them. So both you and Jim are most likely right, since the earliest version I can find is in Wales, this aught to be fun trying to link all these names together. I am of Armenian decent and it seems our last names are the same, they take the father's first name and add ian on the end of it [ian means son of] my last name was Humpartzoomian, it is pronounced Hum- part-zoom-ian but I've come across a lot of interesting variations of this one this one as well. And you right Jim it would take all the fun out of researching if it was easy. Thank-You for your suggestions. Regards Robin -----Original Message----- From: Sara Thomas <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: Robin VanBelleghem <robinvb@home.com> Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet >Don't wish to butt in, but I immediately thought of the Welsh name >Iestyn --- usually a first name, but with 'son of' in front (ap >Iestyn) becomes a surname. Any Welsh connection? >Sara

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Thomas" <Sethomas@btinternet.com> To: "Robin VanBelleghem" <robinvb@home.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet Don't wish to butt in, but I immediately thought of the Welsh name Iestyn --- usually a first name, but with 'son of' in front (ap Iestyn) becomes a surname. Any Welsh connection? Sara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin VanBelleghem" <robinvb@home.com> > To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet > > > > Hi Christine > > > > I know this is an of the topic question and I'm sorry for it but I > have > > asked you this question because you are certainly quite > knowledgeable about > > genealogy > > Sorry if my explanation of the name's and variations was hard to > understand, > > I just couldn't think of how to explain the problem, so I hope I get > it > > right this time. The last name in question is Jestings, at first we > thought > > the name was from Scotland but I am quite sure that it is not. While > > searching the IGI the name Jestings come's up only 6 time's, but on > the same > > page of the IGI there are other name's that are quite similar but > may have > > some small spelling differences ie: Jestyn, Jesting, Gestin etc. > There are > > at least 30 variations to choose from, how does one go about finding > the > > original spelling. > > > > Thank-You > > Robin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:03 PM > > Subject: RE: Gosh it is quiet > > > > > > >Do you mean the correct form of a name? Not clear what you mean - > give > > some > > >examples? > > >Christine > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] > > >Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:22 PM > > >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet > > > > > >Hi All > > > > > >Your right Christine it is awfully quite, I'm still waiting and > hoping some > > >information will come through for me on Donald Gibson, and > periodically I > > >stick my nose in and try to help someone else. But I noticed there > hasn't > > >even been many people on the mailing list. Say Christine how do you > find > > out > > >what an original last name is, if you there is about 30 different > > variations > > >of it. Any Idea's > > > > > >Robin > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> > > >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:41 PM > > >Subject: Gosh it is quiet > > > > > > > > >>Hi list > > >>We have even more new members on this list now. They will be > thinking it > > >>has gone to sleep! > > >>For those of us in Britain I read today that the 2001 census forms > will be > > >>delivered to us all soon. I also read somewhere that it would be > a good > > >>idea to photocopy the completed form when you have filled it in > and file > > it > > >>away with your birth certificates, etc. Save our descendants > hunting for > > >us > > >>the way we hunt for our ancestors! > > >>Oh if only some of mine had done this!! > > >> > > >>Best wishes > > >>Christine > > >>chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk > > >> > > >>Highland Hearts > > >>http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> > > >> > > >> > > >>--- > > >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >>Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 > > >> > > >> > > >>==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > > >>You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this > list. 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Hi all Just thought I would put my piece in seeing as we are talking about the census. At least historians are starting to see the value in the census returns in New Zealand. For the first time ever, they are telling people the forms will be kept for 100 years and then could be published. Anyone can ask that their details are not published - unlucky for someone. All previous years census in NZ have been destroyed. However, we have our electoral rolls - everyone over the age of 18, (used to be 21) have to register to vote and everytime you change your address at the post office your details are amended. This roll is published every 4 years so it is a very valuable source of info. Thats all from me for now. Regards Mary-Ann Farr

Do you mean the correct form of a name? Not clear what you mean - give some examples? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:22 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Gosh it is quiet Hi All Your right Christine it is awfully quite, I'm still waiting and hoping some information will come through for me on Donald Gibson, and periodically I stick my nose in and try to help someone else. But I noticed there hasn't even been many people on the mailing list. Say Christine how do you find out what an original last name is, if you there is about 30 different variations of it. Any Idea's Robin -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Gosh it is quiet >Hi list >We have even more new members on this list now. They will be thinking it >has gone to sleep! >For those of us in Britain I read today that the 2001 census forms will be >delivered to us all soon. I also read somewhere that it would be a good >idea to photocopy the completed form when you have filled it in and file it >away with your birth certificates, etc. Save our descendants hunting for us >the way we hunt for our ancestors! >Oh if only some of mine had done this!! > >Best wishes >Christine >chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk > >Highland Hearts >http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 > > >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01