I have a copy of the book, "History of the Highland Clearances" by Alexander MacKenzie (1883). I thought that some of you might find the following data of interest. Lyndall =========================== Population of all the Parishes in whole or in part in the County of Sutherland. Assynt 1801..........2419 1811..........2479 1821..........2803 1831..........3161 1841..........3178 1851..........2989 1871..........3006 1881..........2781 Clyne 1801..........1643 1811..........1639 1821..........1874 1831..........1711 1841..........1765 1851..........1933 1871..........1733 1881..........1812 Creich 1801..........1974 1811..........1969 1821..........2354 1831..........2562 1841..........2852 1851..........2714 1871..........2524 1881..........2223 Dornoch 1811..........2362 1821..........2681 1831..........3100 1841..........2714 1851..........2981 1871..........2764 1881..........2525 Durness 1801..........1208 1811..........1155 1821..........1004 1831..........1153 1841..........1109 1851..........1152 1871..........1049 1881............987 Eddrachillis 1801..........1253 1811..........1147 1821..........1229 1831..........1965 1841..........1699 1851..........1576 1871..........1530 1881..........1525 Farr 1801..........2408 1811..........2408 1821..........1994 1831..........2073 1841..........2217 1851..........2403 1871..........2019 1881..........1930 Golspie 1801..........1616 1811..........1391 1821..........1049 1831..........1149 1841..........1214 1851..........1529 1871..........1804 1881..........1556 Kildonan 1801..........1440 1811..........1574 1821............565 1831............257 1841............256 1851........*2288 1871..........1916 1881..........1942 *The lands of Helmsdale and others previously in the Parish of Loth were, about this time, added to Kildonan, which accounts for this large increase. It also accounts for the decrease in Loth. Lairg 1801..........1209 1811..........1354 1821..........1094 1831..........1045 1841............913 1851..........1162 1871............978 1881..........1355 Loth 1801..........1374 1811..........1330 1821..........2008 1831..........2234 1841..........2526 1851..........*640 1871............583 1881............584 Reay 1801..........2406 1811..........2317 1821..........2758 1831..........2881 1841..........2811 1851..........2506 1871..........2331 1881..........2191 Rogart 1801..........2022 1811..........2148 1821..........1986 1831..........1805 1841..........1501 1851..........1536 1871..........1341 1881..........1227 Tongue 1801..........1348 1811..........1493 1821..........1736 1831..........2030 1841..........2041 1851..........2018 1871..........2051 1881..........1929

Dear Franklin, I am looking for Mathesons from Pictou County. As I am a "newbie" to this I still need to get the birth date of my Great Grandfather James W. Matheson probably born between 1865-1880 and married Christina Frazer (or Fraser). My grandfather Clifford E. Matheson was born in 1907 in Poplar Hill Pictou County.I seem to have more information on my Grandmothers side the Falconers as I found a small box of photos. I'll post more when I have it Regards, Julie-Ann Matheson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklin Fiske" <ffiske@north.nsis.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: Sutherlands, Matheson > Help needed; > Birth, marriage,where intombed. > Christian MacKay w/o Alexander Matheson whose children were; John b 1784, Thomas b 1787, John b 1791, James b 1793, > Catherine b 1796. > Margaret MacKay w/o Alexander Sutherland whose child was b 1789. > They would be in the Dornock, Skelbo, Torboll area. > I live in the Pictou Co. area of Nova Scotia could look up the Sutherlands, Mathesons, Mackays in that area for any one interested. > Frank ffiske@nsis.com > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

The drop in population might not seem so much but if you compare it with a community of any size elsewhere in Britain, the 19th century saw an enormous %increase in the population as families were huge and infant and adult mortality rates were improved as hygiene and diet changed for the better. Some of these improvements would not have been so noticable up in an area like Rogart but instead of saying " the population dropped by 40% in 80 years" it would probably be more accurate to say" the population would have been 5 times higher by 1881 than in 1801 had it not been for the Clearances" . Of course people probably would have moved away South for better employment prospects anyway because of the fact that they couldn't buy their own land and had to put up with the nasty landlords. I have always wondered why my lot managed to stay put when so many were thrown out, but those statistics put it all in perspective.. in fact you had a fairly good chance of remaining provided you didn't annoy the folk in charge. Which is perhaps why my G-G-grandfather called one of his sons after the agent William Young just to keep on his good side. By the way Christine did you say something about the site being too quiet? Don't do that again!! Liz

A big Thank-You to everyone for the helpful information. Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: RE: Cemeteries in Dornoch > Hello Robin > Only two - > The Churchyard of St Barr's, Dornoch (Cathedral) and the Free Church > graveyard at Golf Road. > Christine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:30 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Cemeteries in Dornoch > > Hi Everyone > > Could anyone tell me what cemeteries there are in Dornoch? > > Thanks > Robin > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You > can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Greetings to all. This is a recycled query, originally sent to the Nova Scotia List (1998). Title Details: Cumha d'athair: Domhnull Sutherlan a bh'ann am Brora an Siorrachd Chatabh, agus a dh'eug sa' mhios Mhaigh 1863. Does anyone on the SUT list have the Gaelic? I would dearly love to know how this title translates into English. During a visit to the National Library of Scotland (on holiday from Canada), my husband and I found reference in the Sutherland Estate Papers to a Donald Sutherland who was a water bailiff at Brora, County Sutherland (sorry, I have no other details). I wonder if there could be any connection between this man and the man in the book's title. I will be grateful for any help at all with this one. This title is held by Glasgow University. The citation given on the excellent COPAC web site for UK university libraries is "Main Library; Celtic, JG120, SUT; No 1 of 8 pamphlets bound together". The COPAC web site (university research libraries in the UK and Ireland) for searches by author/title, periodical and subject is at http://copac.ac.uk/copac Does anyone know of a Canadian library source for this publication? Best wishes, Frances bishad@direct.ca

Hello I also have this book and others which show these population figures. I do not know what others think but I have often wondered if the figures have been 'doctored'! We all know how devastating the Clearances were but looking at the figures not so bad! Apart from Kildonan of course which was virtually emptied. In Rogart it was said "that the tenants were rooted out at will" yet looking at the figures it did not drop by much. Would like to hear other opinions on this subject. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Lyndall [mailto:lyfrah@goldweb.com.au] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:39 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUT- 19th century parish populations I have a copy of the book, "History of the Highland Clearances" by Alexander MacKenzie (1883). I thought that some of you might find the following data of interest. Lyndall =========================== Population of all the Parishes in whole or in part in the County of Sutherland. Assynt 1801..........2419 1811..........2479 1821..........2803 1831..........3161 1841..........3178 1851..........2989 1871..........3006 1881..........2781 Clyne 1801..........1643 1811..........1639 1821..........1874 1831..........1711 1841..........1765 1851..........1933 1871..........1733 1881..........1812 Creich 1801..........1974 1811..........1969 1821..........2354 1831..........2562 1841..........2852 1851..........2714 1871..........2524 1881..........2223 Dornoch 1811..........2362 1821..........2681 1831..........3100 1841..........2714 1851..........2981 1871..........2764 1881..........2525 Durness 1801..........1208 1811..........1155 1821..........1004 1831..........1153 1841..........1109 1851..........1152 1871..........1049 1881............987 Eddrachillis 1801..........1253 1811..........1147 1821..........1229 1831..........1965 1841..........1699 1851..........1576 1871..........1530 1881..........1525 Farr 1801..........2408 1811..........2408 1821..........1994 1831..........2073 1841..........2217 1851..........2403 1871..........2019 1881..........1930 Golspie 1801..........1616 1811..........1391 1821..........1049 1831..........1149 1841..........1214 1851..........1529 1871..........1804 1881..........1556 Kildonan 1801..........1440 1811..........1574 1821............565 1831............257 1841............256 1851........*2288 1871..........1916 1881..........1942 *The lands of Helmsdale and others previously in the Parish of Loth were, about this time, added to Kildonan, which accounts for this large increase. It also accounts for the decrease in Loth. Lairg 1801..........1209 1811..........1354 1821..........1094 1831..........1045 1841............913 1851..........1162 1871............978 1881..........1355 Loth 1801..........1374 1811..........1330 1821..........2008 1831..........2234 1841..........2526 1851..........*640 1871............583 1881............584 Reay 1801..........2406 1811..........2317 1821..........2758 1831..........2881 1841..........2811 1851..........2506 1871..........2331 1881..........2191 Rogart 1801..........2022 1811..........2148 1821..........1986 1831..........1805 1841..........1501 1851..........1536 1871..........1341 1881..........1227 Tongue 1801..........1348 1811..........1493 1821..........1736 1831..........2030 1841..........2041 1851..........2018 1871..........2051 1881..........1929 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Many thanks Zelda for Don Scott's address. Guess he will get some mail now. Christine -----Original Message----- From: George Matheson [mailto:DORNOCH@XTRA.CO.NZ] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:59 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Mathesons in Dornoch Hi Christine & other listers In reply to your enquiry re Clan Matheson Genealogist in New Zealand his name is - Don Scott,- email donaldscott@extra.co.nz I would be grateful for any information relating to the family of Alexander Matheson (c 1796 died 9 August 1859 at Evelix Dornoch) & Marion Murray (daughter of John Murray & Jane Mackay of Embo Dornoch) . Looking for - Isabel Matheson born 15.10.1832 at Achinchanter Alexander born 17.11. 1836 Betty/Betsy ( or maybe Elizabeth) born 14.4.1839 at Evelix died 24 December 1921, Camore, Dornoch I have some information on the others in the family John born 1828 Achinchanter married Ann Grant who went to Alma, Victoria, Australia Thomas born 1830 Achinchanter who married Catherine Murray went to N.Z in 1857 and settled near Dunedin, Otago (my husbands ggfather) Donald born 1835 at Achany, Creich who married (1) Ann MacDonald (2) Flora MacKenzie Regards Zelda Matheson ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

A while back there was a conversation about Gilchrist Square, Dornoch. I cannot remember who it was who had a relative after whom the square was named? I now have a map of Dornoch showing the square. If whoever emails me privately I will send a copy. Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Lyndall Very interesting information. Would the increase in population in Creich between 1811 and 1821 be due to workers in the Spinningdale factory? (I'm uncertain of my dates.) This would obscure any clearances going on in the hinterland. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndall" <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: SUT- 19th century parish populations Lyndall wrote > I have a copy of the book, "History of the Highland Clearances" by Alexander > MacKenzie (1883). I thought that some of you might find the following data > of interest. > Population of all the Parishes in whole or in part in the County of > Sutherland. .......... (extract) > Creich > 1801..........1974 > 1811..........1969 > 1821..........2354 > 1831..........2562 > 1841..........2852 > 1851..........2714 > 1871..........2524 > 1881..........2223

While on the surname MATHIESON / MATHISON , does anyone have any information on a Alexandrina(Lexy) MACKENZIE, born in Tongue, who married a William MATHISON of Baddenlock,Kildonan. Marriage probably in area of 1828. She was the daughter of Catherine and Donald MACKENZIE . She is listed in 1841 living in Farr with 5 children; that is if I have the correct MATHISON In 1851 she is still there farming 4 1/2 acres listed as a widow with 3 children 9 years and under. Any information re: these MATHISON s would be appreciated. Lee Heath , Florida

Can any body tell me how to find out info on the Scotch veterans thaat were in the big 1812 shuffle that were from the Sutherlandshire area. Thank you, Frank

How I wish that the Northern Times would come on line. You can read newspapers from most other Highland areas including the Northern Scot at Moray with its wonderful history section; you can read all the Lowland papers including the Edinburgh and Glasgow ones but you cannot read the one that really means most to us - The Northern Times. Does anyone know if they have plans to do this? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Carole McBeath [mailto:carole@mcbeath.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:01 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUT Newspaper articles Sorry it's taken so long to reply on this one, but I have only just discovered this source myself. I was looking for The Northern Ensign newspapers and have discovered two places , which may be of interest. The first is the Northern Highland Archives in Wick, the web -site is http://www.caithness.org/community/museums/nha/index.html the contact there is:- Brenda.Lees@highland.gov.uk, She was very helpful, they have the John O Groats Journal there also. You could also try the National Library of Scotland who also hold various newspapers at http://www.nls.uk/ The enquiry service will tell you if they have what you are looking for. Good Luck in your quest Carole McBeath (Glasgow) -----Original Message----- From: John McKay <jomac@ansonic.com.au> To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 22 March 2001 10:21 Subject: SUT Newspaper articles By accident found in a lecture transcript that my ancestor's brother Wm Paterson Mackay sent a letter from Adelaide Australia back to the "northern papers". When I went to check these for a full version, the letter could not be found, as the dates may have been incorrectly transcribed. Has anyone seen this and can they advise? Per below: - Prof Richards: WP Mackay sent a letter to papers in the north of Scot., (John O'Groats Journal, Inverness Courier), espousing the virtues of the new colony. (ref Prof Eric Richards article Highland Emigrants to SA in the 1850's which cites this letter of W.P.'s pg 8 & 9). Prof Richards states ... "Most of the attractions of the antipodes to a prospective Highland migrant, even before the gold fever, were encompassed in a letter written from Adelaide in 1847 by W.P. Mackay who had left Sutherland two years before. His letter was widely publicised in the northern newspapers. He wrote: The time has now arrived when emigrants from Caithness, Sutherland, Ross, Orkney and Zetland, may get a free passage from their own country if they choose ... [to] this country, which is replete with plenty. Here is no starvation, no seizing your goods for taxes, no begging for work, but plenty of good meat at 2d. per lb., bread 6d per loaf. The poorest Zetland fisherman, were he here, could actually live more sumptuously than the best gentry in these islands; for here, on 30s. per week (labourer's wages) a man may have meat every meal, bread cheaper and better than in all Scotland. He spoke glowingly, and for his readers incredibly, of peaches, figs, grapes, melons and wine in profusion. He spelt out the dream further: To the mechanics and farmers of Caithness I would say, take your ploughs, harrows, and farming implements, and tools and come here as quickly as possible. You, in a few years, will be independent. You may buy a section of 80 acres for £80, fence it in, build a house, plough, sow and reap. In a few years, yes, in one year, you may pay your family's expenses with the growth of wheat and potatoes. "You can worship as you think proper here. Religious sects of all kinds and persuasions are on an equal footing. Government will give them aid, if they petition, either for building churches or schools, and also aid teachers. Here are no taxes, the taxes being raised on goods imported." To the Highland Scot in the midst of famine, it must have sounded like paradisiacal music. But in reality it was a description rose-tinted by the current conditions of boom in South Australia, by a man who had landed on his feet and had some capital to give him a start. &c." Prof Richards. (Richards dates this letter as 1849 but says it appeared in 1848? Anyone come across this or know how I might find the full "letter". John McKay in Australia ______________________________ ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hello Robin Only two - The Churchyard of St Barr's, Dornoch (Cathedral) and the Free Church graveyard at Golf Road. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Robin VanBelleghem [mailto:robinvb@home.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:30 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Cemeteries in Dornoch Hi Everyone Could anyone tell me what cemeteries there are in Dornoch? Thanks Robin ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hello Frances As always what you put forward is a very good idea. However, I think this has to be a personal choice thing. We do not want to frighten folks away. Most people will have their sources recorded and if they do not come up on the list a quick email will normally bring them although there are a few people who prefer not to give source info or specific fact. We must respect those wishes also. For myself all my work has source codes on it. One of the most noticeable differences today from when I first started out is certificates! I own loads and loads! Used to be the only way to be sure until I learned that there are children in this world who cannot remember their own Mum's maiden name when they go to register her death!! You can't win. I rather like your idea of discussing new sources. This could be most useful to all. We have all learned so much from this list already. The Sutherland Estates book - brilliant. Many people also thought that the 1841 census was the first in Britain - we now know some of the 1811 survived. There was a census every ten years so what became of the 1821 and 31? The Hearth Tax lists of 1691 survived in many places also. Those of you with either my book on Murray Families or my CD will see frequent reference to the 1745 lists. These lists were drawn up in each parish and showed all the able bodied men born between 1680 and 1729. Well worth searching out. The Golspie list is included in the Golspie Story; The lists for Farr are in Population Lists of Strathnaver, Strathy & Strath Halladale, 1667 -1811, by Malcolm Bangor-Jones. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Frances Bishop [mailto:bishad@direct.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:57 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-SUT - Definition of "SCR"/research sources Hi Christine, Thanks for explaining that "SCR" is short for "Scottish Church Records". It's always a bonus to know which source is being quoted when a kind soul such as yourself posts family details to the list. We rely so heavily on the kindness of strangers. It would be great if everyone who shares information would tell us where they found the details they're quoting - and we did the same in return. That way, everyone would learn more about which sources are actually available. For instance, when baptismal or marriage information is posted to the list, a source note such as "OPR" or "old parish/parochial records" and the LDS film number, if applicable, could be added. I'm willing to get into the habit, when/if I am fortunate enough to have news of this kind to contribute <grin>. Most members of this list already indicate information that was taken from readily accessible sources such as the IGI, Scots Origins, the Family History Library Catalogue at www.familysearch.org and so on - for which I thank them! The Internet is a blessing, but sooner or later most of us must resort to doing our own research (those endless "hours in research rooms" that you mentioned <grin>). Sometimes we share information of unknown origins -- usually because we forgot to record the source when we were making our notes. To increase its value to fellow researchers, we could attach the words: "Source unknown". "Family Story" and "Personal Correspondence" would cover personal sources, which are inaccessible to fellow researchers (generally speaking). "Speculation" or a similar warning should be used for queries in which rough dates are given. Mind you, it's only a problem if someone else chooses to take the dates at face value, enter those dates into a database, then distribute them as fact. (Imagine the brick walls in store for the unwary!) Well, enough of my 'bright ideas' -- and a very long post. With best wishes to all, Frances ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Original message (FROM SCT-SUTHERLAND-D Digest: Volume 01 : Issue 74) >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:45:21 +0100 >From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: SUT - RE: Sutherland, MacKay, Matheson - "SCR" > >SCR = Scottish Church Records >These were what the LDS issued in the days before the IGI became >international. These were in the days when we had to sit for hours and >hours in research rooms hunting! Great days. >Christine > >-----Original Message----- >From: Frances Bishop [mailto:bishad@direct.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:37 PM >To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: SUT - RE: Sutherland, MacKay, Matheson - "SCR" > >Hello, Christine > >It's always good to see source details on genealogical mailing lists, but >sometimes I need help in deciphering abbreviations. > >In this case I recognize "OPR" as old parish/parochial records, but what is >"SCR"? > >Many thanks, >Frances > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Frank Wonder if any of this will help you. Firstly Christian Mackay and Alexander Matheson do not appear in the Graveyard inscription book in Dornoch. They will undoubtedly be buried in Dornoch but without a stone the chances of finding where are remote. There are more people buried without stones in Sutherland than with. I would love to be able to give you info on wealthy relatives in Sutherland but would struggle. These were crofting families who did not even own their own piece of land and in many cases survival alone was difficult. At Achavandra, Dornoch, there was a James Matheson who had a son Alexander. This Alexander Matheson married Jane Murray of Achvaich in 1793 and they had a son James, born 1807. This James Matheson married Helen Murray, daughter of Donald Murray and Elizabeth Gordon. James and Helen left Sutherland in 1858 and made their home in New Zealand. A large Matheson family in New Zealand flourishes today. As Achavandra, Achvaich, Skelbo, etc are all in the same area I would think your New Zealand cousins belong somewhere in this family. I cannot give you the name of my New Zealand contact as she has now gone into a care home and no longer wishes to deal with enquiries. Her successor as Clan Matheson Genealogist in New Zealand is a guy called Don something (Matheson?). If any of our New Zealand listers know who I mean perhaps his name will pop up and you can contact him. I have a very large amount of information with all sources etc on these families on my Murray Families CD. Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 3/7/01

Hi Robin, There are three cemeteries in Dornoch - Golf Course Road Cemetery, St. Barr's (at the Cathedral) and Proncynain which is the newest one. I and many others on the list have the pre 1855 Tombstone Inscriptions book so if you want someone looked up just ask. Sheila Mackay

Hi Everyone Could anyone tell me what cemeteries there are in Dornoch? Thanks Robin

Help needed; Birth, marriage,where intombed. Christian MacKay w/o Alexander Matheson whose children were; John b 1784, Thomas b 1787, John b 1791, James b 1793, Catherine b 1796. Margaret MacKay w/o Alexander Sutherland whose child was b 1789. They would be in the Dornock, Skelbo, Torboll area. I live in the Pictou Co. area of Nova Scotia could look up the Sutherlands, Mathesons, Mackays in that area for any one interested. Frank ffiske@nsis.com

Ron Am I right in thinking that Criech Parish, and specifically, Linsidemore, were in other hands by then? Is there any record of the sale of this part of the Estate? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Ronald Patrick" <rpatrick@niagara.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: RE: Sutherland Estate Papers > For the Sutherland Estate Papers they are in two volumes; the ISBN number > for the SET is as follows: > #9500260 3 4. > They cover the period 1802-1816 of the Sutherland Estate. > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk > [mailto:Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:09 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Sutherland Estate Papers > > > ********************************************************************** ****** > * > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > ********************************************************************** ****** > * > > The two volumes are available on the open shelves in the National Library of > Scotland, National Archives of Scotland, also the Inverness Reference > Library, and probably Dornoch. They turn up quite frequently in second hand > shops. > Malcolm > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Stokes > [mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 04 April 2001 14:47 > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Sutherland Estate Papers > > > ******************************************************************* > This email has been received from an external party and > has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. > > ******************************************************************* > > Hello > I know we touched on this subject before but did anyone > manage to find a > copy in the UK? > Sutherland Estate Papers by R J Adam? > Would be interested to know if there is a copy in the > National Library of > Scotland in Edinburgh or is there a copy in Sutherland? > Many thanks > Christine > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: > 3/7/01 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to > this list. You can do this at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access > to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11H B > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

From Vol 1,p.xii: "Outside the ancient earldom, the estate included all of Assynt, but in Creich, only Invershin and Achinduich, the remainder of this parish being divided between six independent proprietors." Then is gives as a note these six: Sir Charles Ross of Balnagown (Strathoykel) William Baillie (Rosehall) Robert McLeod of Cadboll (Inveran) Hugh Houston (Creich) Dugald Gilchrist (Ospisdale) George Dempster (Skibo) Hope this is of some interest. Ron Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario Canada L0S 1J0 -----Original Message----- From: Sara Thomas [mailto:Sethomas@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:31 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Sutherland Estate Papers Ron Am I right in thinking that Criech Parish, and specifically, Linsidemore, were in other hands by then? Is there any record of the sale of this part of the Estate? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Ronald Patrick" <rpatrick@niagara.com> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: RE: Sutherland Estate Papers > For the Sutherland Estate Papers they are in two volumes; the ISBN number > for the SET is as follows: > #9500260 3 4. > They cover the period 1802-1816 of the Sutherland Estate. > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk > [mailto:Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:09 AM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Sutherland Estate Papers > > > ********************************************************************** ****** > * > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > ********************************************************************** ****** > * > > The two volumes are available on the open shelves in the National Library of > Scotland, National Archives of Scotland, also the Inverness Reference > Library, and probably Dornoch. They turn up quite frequently in second hand > shops. > Malcolm > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Stokes > [mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 04 April 2001 14:47 > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Sutherland Estate Papers > > > ******************************************************************* > This email has been received from an external party and > has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. > > ******************************************************************* > > Hello > I know we touched on this subject before but did anyone > manage to find a > copy in the UK? > Sutherland Estate Papers by R J Adam? > Would be interested to know if there is a copy in the > National Library of > Scotland in Edinburgh or is there a copy in Sutherland? > Many thanks > Christine > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: > 3/7/01 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to > this list. You can do this at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access > to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11H B > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ______________________________