Hi Everyone I just found out that it is possible that my Donald Gibson of Dornach is not related to Thomas Gibson of Dornach after all. I have to Thank everyone who helped me with this search I really appreciated all your help, no wonder we could not find a connection. But my search still has to go on but obviously in a different direction but at this moment I don't know which way to go, so I'll have to think on it. A special Thank you goes out to Christine, you are absolutely invaluable. Thank you Robin

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** At least one member of the Clarke family went out westwards but I am not aware of any information relating to a connection with a Jones family. There are no family papers for the Clarkes and it is unlikely that you will turn up much in the Sutherland Papers about people working for the Clarkes. The Sutherland Papers contain much about the Clarkes themselves, however. Evander MacIver was factor for the Scourie district of the Sutherland estate from 1846 to 1895. He encouraged many people to emigrate. He wrote a rather tedious volume revealingly entitled Memoirs of a Highland Gentleman (1905). Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Sue Mackay [mailto:sue.mackay@virgin.net] Sent: 19 April 2001 13:23 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUT: Alexander CLARKE of Eriboll ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Can anybody give me more information about Alexander CLARKE of Eriboll, and whether or not he had any connection with a JONES family with lands in Demerera, presumably a sugar plantation in British Guyana? Our family goes back to Annie Fraser ROSS, daughter of Lachlan ROSS and Hannah MATHER. I have in my possession a solid gold signet ring which belonged to Annie, and is beautifully inscribed AFR, then on the reverse the dates 14 Feb 1867, 28 June 1872, 4 May 1879. I now know that these are the dates of death of her younger brother Thomas, her mother and her father, all of whom are buried in Arnaboll Burial Ground. I have not been able to see the grave as yet, but A.S.Cowper gives the MI as Lachlan Ross, native parish of Kincardine, Ross-shire, faithful servant more than 50 years in family Clarkes of Eriboll, d. Thurso 4:5:1879 aged 88. Wife Ann Fraser d.Eriboll 1837 aged 46, second wife Hannah Mather d Eriboll 28:6:1872 aged 57, children Isabella 1829 12, Thomas 14:2:1867 15 Annie's brother James had married and moved to Thurso by 1879 (probably where Lachlan died) and her brothers John Clark ROSS and William Fraser Mather ROSS (the former was the eldest son and presumably given the name Clark as a mark of respect) had emigrated to the USA, so Annie would have been suddenly on her own. She next appears in 1881 on the census as a domestic servant with Mary Elizabeth JONES, born Demerera 'with landed property' in Paddington, London. The following year, in 1882, Annie married Alexander McKAY, a policeman from Tongue, Sutherland. The marriage took place in London and was witnessed by a William Henry JONES. Annie and Alexander settled in Glasgow and called their daughter Mary Elizabeth Jones McKAY. I now speculate that after the death of her father somehow the CLARKE family found her the job in London, and as the family had very little money it seems likely that either Alexander CLARKE or Mary JONES gave her the ring that I now have so that she could remember her family far away in Sutherland if she couldn't visit the grave. Would there be estate papers for Eriboll - if so, where? I would also like to know more about an Evander McIVER. John Clark ROSS (who founded Rossville in Texas) named one of his sons Evander McIver ROSS, supposedly after a mentor who had helped him get established as a blockade runner during the US Civil War and eventually emigrate to Texas. Sue Mackay ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Can anybody give me more information about Alexander CLARKE of Eriboll, and whether or not he had any connection with a JONES family with lands in Demerera, presumably a sugar plantation in British Guyana? Our family goes back to Annie Fraser ROSS, daughter of Lachlan ROSS and Hannah MATHER. I have in my possession a solid gold signet ring which belonged to Annie, and is beautifully inscribed AFR, then on the reverse the dates 14 Feb 1867, 28 June 1872, 4 May 1879. I now know that these are the dates of death of her younger brother Thomas, her mother and her father, all of whom are buried in Arnaboll Burial Ground. I have not been able to see the grave as yet, but A.S.Cowper gives the MI as Lachlan Ross, native parish of Kincardine, Ross-shire, faithful servant more than 50 years in family Clarkes of Eriboll, d. Thurso 4:5:1879 aged 88. Wife Ann Fraser d.Eriboll 1837 aged 46, second wife Hannah Mather d Eriboll 28:6:1872 aged 57, children Isabella 1829 12, Thomas 14:2:1867 15 Annie's brother James had married and moved to Thurso by 1879 (probably where Lachlan died) and her brothers John Clark ROSS and William Fraser Mather ROSS (the former was the eldest son and presumably given the name Clark as a mark of respect) had emigrated to the USA, so Annie would have been suddenly on her own. She next appears in 1881 on the census as a domestic servant with Mary Elizabeth JONES, born Demerera 'with landed property' in Paddington, London. The following year, in 1882, Annie married Alexander McKAY, a policeman from Tongue, Sutherland. The marriage took place in London and was witnessed by a William Henry JONES. Annie and Alexander settled in Glasgow and called their daughter Mary Elizabeth Jones McKAY. I now speculate that after the death of her father somehow the CLARKE family found her the job in London, and as the family had very little money it seems likely that either Alexander CLARKE or Mary JONES gave her the ring that I now have so that she could remember her family far away in Sutherland if she couldn't visit the grave. Would there be estate papers for Eriboll - if so, where? I would also like to know more about an Evander McIVER. John Clark ROSS (who founded Rossville in Texas) named one of his sons Evander McIver ROSS, supposedly after a mentor who had helped him get established as a blockade runner during the US Civil War and eventually emigrate to Texas. Sue Mackay

I am interested in any information about Thomas MATHER. He was born in Northumberland and married Jane CRAWFORD on 9 June 1805 (Northumberland IGI, unverified) Shortly afterwards he moved to Sutherland Durness Parish Register gives: Births 1806: Thomas Mather, shepherd in Balmnaceil...& Janet Crawford both from Northumberland, Edward 12 November After Edward came John (1809), James (1811) and then 1814: Thomas Mather, shepherd in Balamulich...& Janet Crawford, Margaret 5 April Almost 9 months to the day after Margaret was born, Hannah MATHER was 'born in adultery' at Balamulich to Thomas MATHER and Kit McKENZIE. Kit was 31, hardly a naive maiden, and Hannah was given the name MATHER and in later years had her cousin John MATHER register the death of her son, so she was openly acknowledged. I think she must have been the housekeeper or some such to whom Thomas turned when his wife was temporarily 'inavailable'!! 9 months later again Janet produced another legitimate son! Hannah's marriage OPR entry lists her father as Thomas MATHER, shepherd of Kerscaig, and her death certificate says her father was the 'manager of a sheep farm'. Does anyone recognise the names as I would like to know who Thomas' employer was and whether there would be any estate records. I have no idea where or when he died. Sue Mackay

My Donald Gunn was 69 years old when he left Scotland for the Selkirk Settlement in Manitoba, Canada on the second load of immigrants bound for that place. They sailed from Dornoch. The Prince of Wales passenger list says he was a shoemaker. He and his children who were part of the group who left Manitoba for Elgin. county, and the Talbot Settlement in Ontario are my ancestors. Later in Elgin co., no less than 4 Donald Gunns are to be found who are first cousins -- to confuse matters further, there were 2 Donald A Gunns. However, there was a different Donald Gunn who remained at the Red River Settlement. He was reputed to be a botonist and went on to be one of the first members of the Manitoba Legislature. I'm typing this from memory which is why it's so sketchy. Hope it helps. Joan Wilton

Cheryll, You may well be right, the Esther Gunn I am interested in was born on 24th April, 1807, Kildonan, to Donald Gunn and Esther Sutherland. She married Anderson Murray on 25 Feb, 1830 in Loth, Esther died in 1839 and is buried in Loth cemetary. I have no information on her parents other than their names, so far have been researching the Murrays. If you know for sure that the Donald Gunn that Rena was talking about is a different one, then I will have to look again for her parents. Thanks for taking the time to let me know, you may have saved me a lot of repeat research. Catherine

Hi Angi, I have not followed-up my MacKay ancestors, mainly because Durness is in "MacKay country" and distinguishing between MacKays with the same christian name seemed a daunting task. However, my gg grandmother was Henrietta (Henny) MacKay b.1824 to John MacKay and Flora ?? (probably Flora Sutherland, who had a daughter Henny McKay on Jan 14, 1824. Siblings: Christian c. 16 Sept 1819 and Isobell c. 20 August 1821. John and Flora married June 2, 1815 in Durness.) My Henny MacKay married Donald Morrison in Durness, September 24, 1843 and they are buried at Balnakeil. By 1891, they were living on a croft at Lerin, where my cousin now lives. Ian Morrison ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Lamb Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:40 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: My family interests - Durness Dear all, MACKAY/ MACKENZIE/ SUTHERLAND 1750-1900 Durness Please get in touch if there any overlapping interests. I have a copy of the 1891 census for Durine & Smoo & Sangomore. Angi Lamb ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB<br clear=all><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p>

Thankyou for this Rena. Fascinating. Here is a little bit of info on the George Gordon who married Harriet Mackay: GEORGE GORDON [1765-1822] married HARRIOT MACKAY [1766-1848] The Reverend George Gordon was the minister in Loth for 27 years. He is a son of Adam Gordon in Loth. Harriot Mackay was from Lairg. She is the daughter of Reverend Thomas Mackay of Lairg and his wife Margaret Montgomery. George and Harriot married in Lairg on 22 October 1798. They had at least two children: MARGARET, born 1803 [died 1829] [married James Anderson] and THOMAS, born 5 January 1808 Loth. Reverend George Gordon is buried in Loth. We do have a descendant of this family as a list member. If anyone relates contact me for his address. Rena, you also mention a Macdonald, violinist, died Goslpie, widow of Mr Gordon - anything further on them? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Rena Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:06 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Memorabilia Domestica, Chapter 8 Chapter VIII. Boyhood. 1789-1800. UF = Unnamed Female UM = Unnamed Male MACTHOMAIS, JAMES, Sage's father's principal farm servant. He married UF, MARSAL Their sons, MACTHOMAIS, THOMAS, the eldest son, lived Kinbrace, married GORDON, JANET, one of Sage's father's servants. MACTHOMAIS, JOHN, the second son, A daughter was not named. Other domestics at the Kildonan manse included GUNN, ROBERT, from Costally, died in Spanish campaigns. GUNN, ADAM, from Costally. Their mother, UF, ANNABEL was a daughter of 'IAN THAPAIDH' aka 'JOHN HAPPAY', target of ROB DONN'S satire. Kildonan elders: BAIN, RORY, lived Killearnan. His eldest daughter BAIN, UF married ROSS, JOHN, the miller, "cake-and-pudding wooer" of MACKAY, EPPY, the house keeper at the manse. MACKAY, DONALD, by his first wife, had a son, MACKAY, GEORGE, a catechist, lived Liriboll. His second wife was POLSON, MARION, Sage's brother's nurse. They had three sons and a daughter: MACKAY, PETER, Sage's brother's foster-brother. MACKAY, ANGUS. MACKAY, JOHN MACKAY, ISOBEL. GORDON, JOHN BANNERMAN (or MACDONALD), ALEXANDER, lived Ulbster. Son and daughter, not named. FRASER, HUGH, an old man, lived Halgary. SUTHERLAND, JAMES "Buidh", native of Loth, went to Selkirk's Red River Colony. ----------------------------- MACPHERSON, JOHN, the kirk officer GUNN, Donald, his assistant. SUTHERLAND, DONALD ("Donald Dalbhait"), lived Dalbhait. GRANT, JOHN, a parish notable. MACCULLOCH, UM, minister of Loth MACKENZIE, HUGH, minister of Tongue MACLEOD, DONALD, the school master at Kildonan. MACPHERSON, EVAN, of Ruthven, a teacher sent by "Society in Scotland for Propagating Christian Knowledge in the Highlands and Islands" to Kildonan, settled at Caen. MURRAY, ALEXANDER, lived at Turaidh, a sub-tenant of BAIGRIE, UM, Captain, and of Baigrie's predecessor SUTHERLAND, UM, Major, of Midgarty. Murray's wife was a sister of CORBET, BARBARA, Sage's nurse. Their two daughters MURRAY, BARBARA married MACKAY, ROBERT, a native of Clyne. MURRAY, JANET married MACKAY, UM, younger brother of MACKAY, WILLIAM in Ascaig, one of the kirk elders. He went to Latheron, Caithness, where he died in 1843. Buried at Mid-Clyth. Had a family of 10; three sons and two daughters emigrated to Canada. MACKAY, EDWARD and MACKAY, JOSEPH, founded Mackay Brothers in Montreal. MACKAY, DONALD, went into business with his nephew, GORDON, UM, in Toronto. Their sister, MACKAY, EUPHEMIA married MACKAY, ANGUS of Grubmore, Strathnaver. Her three sons, MACKAY, HUGH MACKAY, JAMES and MACKAY, ROBERT continued the business. WEMYSS, WILLIAM, of Wemyss, Major-General CLUNESS, GORDON, Major, of Cracaig. BRUCE, DONALD, the Countess' ground-officer. MACDONALD, MURDO, Rev. of Durness. His daughter, MACDONALD, UF ("Fiddlag"), a violinist, died Golspie, was the widow of GORDON, UM. Their only daughter, GORDON, PEGGY. KEITH, UM, (A minister in Golspie, perhaps? ) GORDON, UM, of Navidale, moved to Edinburgh. POPE, ALEXANDER, minister of Reay His brother, POPE, PETER, tacksman of Gartimore. Peter's sons POPE, WILLIAM, returned from West Indies. POPE, ROBERT, lived Navidale, also leased Tiribol and Dallangal. He married SUTHERLAND, ROBERTA (Miss Bertie) GORDON, GEORGE, minister of Loth, successor to MacCulloch. His father, GORDON, ADAM, tacksman of Rhenevy, Strathnaver, Farr. His uncle, GORDON, CHARLES of Pulrossie. George married MACKAY, HARRIET, daughter of MACKAY, THOMAS, minister of Lairg, Sage's grand-uncle. George's servant, UM, "Gillie ROY". GORDON of Carrol, lived Kintradwell, parish of Loth. URQUHART, ALEXANDER, missionary of Achness BAIGRIE, ROBERT, son of Capt, Baigrie, died West Indies. His mother died 1798. 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Hi Lyndall Are the Alexander & Christian McBeth/ MacBeth/McBeath families of Sutherlandshire on the CD? I would buy it also if my GUNN & SUTHERLAND families are there. I would like to have an order form for this CD so will have to contact Highland Heart. Marla in BC Canada

Charles I notice you used the old Highland-Hearts with a hyphen! The address nowadays is www.highlandhearts.com No one is 'locked out' so try this link and see if you get in. Details of the CD are in Christine's Family Tree section. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Eckerman [mailto:eckbob@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:02 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SUT - data resource Hi Lyndall, Well, right now I'm locked out of Highland-Hearts for some reason but I will contact Christine and order the CD. I guess I am doing that right now, come to think of it... Any way, I want to thank you for leading me to this CD. I just hope this will be the key that opens up the trail back in time on my 3ggrandparents. This ole world is getting smaller and smaller. You in "Canbra" are helping me in Florida, USA, contact Christine in Scotland about a CD which contains data on my ancestors. Wonderful! And I have several cousins in Canada who will welcome this news. If you see my uncle, Robin Eckermann, wandering around in Canberra [he lives there, too] say hello to him for me. That would surprise him. Thanks again, Bob Eckerman Christine, could you send me ordering info on that CD? Thanks On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:13:33 +1000 "Lyndall" <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> writes: > Hello Bob, > You'll be pleased to know that the CD does contain > an entry > for your Euphemia DOUGLAS and Stephen CLARK. > > In my previous posting on this subject, I think that I omitted to > mention > that MACKENZIE families also feature. > > I say...go for it! I'm sure that you will have no regrets. :o) > > Lyndall > Canberra, Oz. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Hi Lyndall...or whoever else on the list that can give me an > answer, > > I would buy this CD in a minute if Euphemia Douglas, born about > 1792 "in > the Orkney Islands" who married Stephen Clark in about 1816 [no > later > than 1817], was on that CD. Why? One, I'm desperate for a clue and > two, > seven of their kids were born in Golspie. Maybe they went "home" to > Golspie from England until 1832 before sailing to Quebec. No, I > don't > know their parents' names. I would be forever indebted if someone > would > peep into that CD and give me a sign. > > Thanks, Bob Eckerman > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:39:02 +1000 "Lyndall" > <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> > writes: > Hello everyone, > Tuesday's post brought me something wonderful > - > a copy of the CD, "Families of Sutherland - a Genealogical Study" > > This CD is packed with info; in addition to raw data about > members > of the GRANT, ANDERSON, GORDON, DUFF, DOUGLAS, and, > of course, MURRAY families, there are lots of interesting personal > snippets about individuals. In addition, there are maps and > articles > about the more general history of Sutherland. > > I have so far only spent a couple of hours happily exploring this > CD > and have much more to explore. > > Please note that I have no connection with this product; I am > merely a very satisfied user, who believes that I have received > excellent value for money. If any of you are interested in > learning > more, I think that there is a link on Christine's Highland Hearts > site. > Otherwise, you could get in touch with Christine direct. > > Lyndall > Canberra, Oz > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01

Malcolm Can you confirm that these two volumes are in the National Library? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk [mailto:Malcolm.Bangor-Jones@scotland.gsi.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:33 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Alexander MATHESON **************************************************************************** * This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. **************************************************************************** * The Ross of Balnagown collection is not only large, it contains large sections which are uncatalogued, especially the earlier material. However, one Mr McGill did produce 2 volumes of documents in about 1909 and 1911 titled Old-Ross-shire. They draw on the Balnagown Papers and also Tain documents and include material which has now disappeared. The volumes contain a mine of information on the N Highlands. Apart from some legal material, there is, as far as I'm aware, no Matheson of Ardross archive. It appears that papers were destroyed. The family has, of course, no link with earlier Ardross families. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 18 April 2001 19:14 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Alexander MATHESON ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hello Theresa Welcome to the list. Virtually everything you require should be in the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh or at the Scottish Record Office. I know of no where on the internet where you can access any of these items. Perhaps some other list member can suggest different? Christine -----Original Message----- From: T.Knapp [mailto:theresa.knapp@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:48 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Alexander MATHESON I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get info. from/on the following: 1. Ross of Balnagown papers 2. printed indices to Deeds and Sasines (ca 70 vols, published, SRO) 3. Alexander Matheson, Esq. of Ardroos, was MP for Ross and Cromartie 19th Century 4. William Fraser, The Earls Cromartie Their Kindred, County and Correspondance, 2vols. Edinburgh 1876, vol 1, p xxiv, vol 11, pg 168 5. letter from Alexander Grant of Grant to the second Earl of Cromartie, from Castle Grant, 13 march 1714....refers to the Laird of Ardross and his wife. thankyou for any suggestions, no matter how small. Theresa. ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01

Hi folks At the risk of becoming boring on this virus issue I am posting this email which has come in from one of our members. It is vitally important that we all understand DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS. Ensure your virus checker is up to date. Most, if not all the companies like Norton, etc. have already put out an update on this virus. If you do not have a virus checker then please, please, go get one. There is a very good absolutely free one at http://www.grisoft.com Christine Dear Christine, Unfortunately, this particular virus is one which RootsWeb subscribers *should* be worried about! Although the virus cannot be transmitted via RootsWeb itself, it can be (and IS being) transmitted to subscribers via the infected system of another subscriber. The virus picks up addresses from unread e-mails and replies to them using the same subject line and has the same message in the body, plus the phrase "please look to attachment". Today it arrived at my place in response to a message which I had posted to the Sussex-plus list. Fortunately, I was on the alert and immediately deleted the thing. There have been postings from people who have been caught on the Genanz list, the Aus-Qld list, and, of all places, on the Virus-discussion list! It is very apparent that many RootsWeb subscribers have caught this evil thing. Here's the page from the Symantec site which explains just how insidious this virus is: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/pf/w32.badtrans.13312@mm.html McAfee also has a full description of this latest nasty as, I'm sure, will all the anti virus companies. Rather than telling people not to panic, I think that it would be more advisable to suggest to people NOT to open any attachments and to ensure that their AV is right up to date. Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** The Ross of Balnagown collection is not only large, it contains large sections which are uncatalogued, especially the earlier material. However, one Mr McGill did produce 2 volumes of documents in about 1909 and 1911 titled Old-Ross-shire. They draw on the Balnagown Papers and also Tain documents and include material which has now disappeared. The volumes contain a mine of information on the N Highlands. Apart from some legal material, there is, as far as I'm aware, no Matheson of Ardross archive. It appears that papers were destroyed. The family has, of course, no link with earlier Ardross families. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 18 April 2001 19:14 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Alexander MATHESON ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hello Theresa Welcome to the list. Virtually everything you require should be in the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh or at the Scottish Record Office. I know of no where on the internet where you can access any of these items. Perhaps some other list member can suggest different? Christine -----Original Message----- From: T.Knapp [mailto:theresa.knapp@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:48 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Alexander MATHESON I am wondering if anyone knows where I can get info. from/on the following: 1. Ross of Balnagown papers 2. printed indices to Deeds and Sasines (ca 70 vols, published, SRO) 3. Alexander Matheson, Esq. of Ardroos, was MP for Ross and Cromartie 19th Century 4. William Fraser, The Earls Cromartie Their Kindred, County and Correspondance, 2vols. Edinburgh 1876, vol 1, p xxiv, vol 11, pg 168 5. letter from Alexander Grant of Grant to the second Earl of Cromartie, from Castle Grant, 13 march 1714....refers to the Laird of Ardross and his wife. thankyou for any suggestions, no matter how small. Theresa. ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Hello Bob, You'll be pleased to know that the CD does contain an entry for your Euphemia DOUGLAS and Stephen CLARK. In my previous posting on this subject, I think that I omitted to mention that MACKENZIE families also feature. I say...go for it! I'm sure that you will have no regrets. :o) Lyndall Canberra, Oz. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Lyndall...or whoever else on the list that can give me an answer, I would buy this CD in a minute if Euphemia Douglas, born about 1792 "in the Orkney Islands" who married Stephen Clark in about 1816 [no later than 1817], was on that CD. Why? One, I'm desperate for a clue and two, seven of their kids were born in Golspie. Maybe they went "home" to Golspie from England until 1832 before sailing to Quebec. No, I don't know their parents' names. I would be forever indebted if someone would peep into that CD and give me a sign. Thanks, Bob Eckerman On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:39:02 +1000 "Lyndall" <lyfrah@goldweb.com.au> writes: Hello everyone, Tuesday's post brought me something wonderful - a copy of the CD, "Families of Sutherland - a Genealogical Study" This CD is packed with info; in addition to raw data about members of the GRANT, ANDERSON, GORDON, DUFF, DOUGLAS, and, of course, MURRAY families, there are lots of interesting personal snippets about individuals. In addition, there are maps and articles about the more general history of Sutherland. I have so far only spent a couple of hours happily exploring this CD and have much more to explore. Please note that I have no connection with this product; I am merely a very satisfied user, who believes that I have received excellent value for money. If any of you are interested in learning more, I think that there is a link on Christine's Highland Hearts site. Otherwise, you could get in touch with Christine direct. Lyndall Canberra, Oz

Rick Thankyou for this. But still everyone be very careful. Do not open any attachments unless you are absolutely certain you know where they came from. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Sundancer [mailto:Sundancer555@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:30 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Robin's virus I can confirm this as well. Being List owner of clan-mackenzie-l@rootsweb.com, I also know that Roots web does lot allow attachments for this very reason. So the virus did not come through the list. Rick McKenzie Melucci ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Robin's virus > Please do not panic. Rootsweb mailing lists cannot pass virus. > Christine > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/01

Just a note to let everyone pay attention...I have received 8 e-mails this afternoon from Linda Walker...perhaps not intentional..and maybe she is not aware.....but they all had viruses attached.....Becareful out there!

Hello everyone, Tuesday's post brought me something wonderful - a copy of the CD, "Families of Sutherland - a Genealogical Study" This CD is packed with info; in addition to raw data about members of the GRANT, ANDERSON, GORDON, DUFF, DOUGLAS, and, of course, MURRAY families, there are lots of interesting personal snippets about individuals. In addition, there are maps and articles about the more general history of Sutherland. I have so far only spent a couple of hours happily exploring this CD and have much more to explore. Please note that I have no connection with this product; I am merely a very satisfied user, who believes that I have received excellent value for money. If any of you are interested in learning more, I think that there is a link on Christine's Highland Hearts site. Otherwise, you could get in touch with Christine direct. Lyndall Canberra, Oz

Dear all, MACKAY/ MACKENZIE/ SUTHERLAND 1750-1900 Durness Please get in touch if there any overlapping interests. I have a copy of the 1891 census for Durine & Smoo & Sangomore. Angi Lamb

Is anyone out there familiar with the MACKAY family line...the one I am searching for starts: 1. John Gordon 1576-1615 13th Earl of Sutherland + Agnes (Anne) Elphinstone -1617 2. Jane Gordon + Hugh Mackay, of Farr-1614 3. Donald Mackay 1590-1614 4. John Mackay 4. Charles Mackay, of Sandwood 3. John Mackay, of Dirlot and Strathy + Agnes Sinclair 4. James Mackay, of Kirtomy + Jane Fraser 5. John Mackay, of Kirtomy + Elizabeth Sinclair 6. Capt. James Mackay, of Burgy 6. (1) John Mackay, of Kirtomy/Burgiebeg + Fraser (2nd wife) of (1) John Mackay, of Kirtomy/Burgiebeg; + Jane Mackay 7. William (James) Mackay 8. the oilman Mackay 1729-1799 8. Christian Mackay * 8. Jane Mackay + James Gordon 9. (2) Christian (Christina) Gordon + Donald Sutherland of Meikleferry d.1798 10. Spencer Sutherland 10. Kenneth Sutherland 10. Angus Sutherland 10. Christina Sutherland 10. Janet Sutherland (2nd husband) Capt. George Munro 10. James Munro 10. Mary Munro 10. Isabella Munro 9. John Gordon 9. Alexander Gordon 9. Robert Gordon 9. Joseph Gordon 3. Mary Mackay + Sir Hector Munro, of Fowlis if anything sounds familiar...please contact me.

Chapter VIII. Boyhood. 1789-1800. UF = Unnamed Female UM = Unnamed Male MACTHOMAIS, JAMES, Sage's father's principal farm servant. He married UF, MARSAL Their sons, MACTHOMAIS, THOMAS, the eldest son, lived Kinbrace, married GORDON, JANET, one of Sage's father's servants. MACTHOMAIS, JOHN, the second son, A daughter was not named. Other domestics at the Kildonan manse included GUNN, ROBERT, from Costally, died in Spanish campaigns. GUNN, ADAM, from Costally. Their mother, UF, ANNABEL was a daughter of 'IAN THAPAIDH' aka 'JOHN HAPPAY', target of ROB DONN'S satire. Kildonan elders: BAIN, RORY, lived Killearnan. His eldest daughter BAIN, UF married ROSS, JOHN, the miller, "cake-and-pudding wooer" of MACKAY, EPPY, the house keeper at the manse. MACKAY, DONALD, by his first wife, had a son, MACKAY, GEORGE, a catechist, lived Liriboll. His second wife was POLSON, MARION, Sage's brother's nurse. They had three sons and a daughter: MACKAY, PETER, Sage's brother's foster-brother. MACKAY, ANGUS. MACKAY, JOHN MACKAY, ISOBEL. GORDON, JOHN BANNERMAN (or MACDONALD), ALEXANDER, lived Ulbster. Son and daughter, not named. FRASER, HUGH, an old man, lived Halgary. SUTHERLAND, JAMES "Buidh", native of Loth, went to Selkirk's Red River Colony. ----------------------------- MACPHERSON, JOHN, the kirk officer GUNN, Donald, his assistant. SUTHERLAND, DONALD ("Donald Dalbhait"), lived Dalbhait. GRANT, JOHN, a parish notable. MACCULLOCH, UM, minister of Loth MACKENZIE, HUGH, minister of Tongue MACLEOD, DONALD, the school master at Kildonan. MACPHERSON, EVAN, of Ruthven, a teacher sent by "Society in Scotland for Propagating Christian Knowledge in the Highlands and Islands" to Kildonan, settled at Caen. MURRAY, ALEXANDER, lived at Turaidh, a sub-tenant of BAIGRIE, UM, Captain, and of Baigrie's predecessor SUTHERLAND, UM, Major, of Midgarty. Murray's wife was a sister of CORBET, BARBARA, Sage's nurse. Their two daughters MURRAY, BARBARA married MACKAY, ROBERT, a native of Clyne. MURRAY, JANET married MACKAY, UM, younger brother of MACKAY, WILLIAM in Ascaig, one of the kirk elders. He went to Latheron, Caithness, where he died in 1843. Buried at Mid-Clyth. Had a family of 10; three sons and two daughters emigrated to Canada. MACKAY, EDWARD and MACKAY, JOSEPH, founded Mackay Brothers in Montreal. MACKAY, DONALD, went into business with his nephew, GORDON, UM, in Toronto. Their sister, MACKAY, EUPHEMIA married MACKAY, ANGUS of Grubmore, Strathnaver. Her three sons, MACKAY, HUGH MACKAY, JAMES and MACKAY, ROBERT continued the business. WEMYSS, WILLIAM, of Wemyss, Major-General CLUNESS, GORDON, Major, of Cracaig. BRUCE, DONALD, the Countess' ground-officer. MACDONALD, MURDO, Rev. of Durness. His daughter, MACDONALD, UF ("Fiddlag"), a violinist, died Golspie, was the widow of GORDON, UM. Their only daughter, GORDON, PEGGY. KEITH, UM, (A minister in Golspie, perhaps? ) GORDON, UM, of Navidale, moved to Edinburgh. POPE, ALEXANDER, minister of Reay His brother, POPE, PETER, tacksman of Gartimore. Peter's sons POPE, WILLIAM, returned from West Indies. POPE, ROBERT, lived Navidale, also leased Tiribol and Dallangal. He married SUTHERLAND, ROBERTA (Miss Bertie) GORDON, GEORGE, minister of Loth, successor to MacCulloch. His father, GORDON, ADAM, tacksman of Rhenevy, Strathnaver, Farr. His uncle, GORDON, CHARLES of Pulrossie. George married MACKAY, HARRIET, daughter of MACKAY, THOMAS, minister of Lairg, Sage's grand-uncle. George's servant, UM, "Gillie ROY". GORDON of Carrol, lived Kintradwell, parish of Loth. URQUHART, ALEXANDER, missionary of Achness BAIGRIE, ROBERT, son of Capt, Baigrie, died West Indies. His mother died 1798. GORDON, JOHN, footman at Midgarty.