Hi Robin There was a Norman Macdonald family in Rogart said to come from a Major Macdonald who is buried in Rogart. Norman Macdonald appears to be the son of a James Macdonald son of the Major. Now it is said locally that all the Macdonalds in the old kirkyard in Rogart are of the same family but this is hard to prove. Descendants were known as the Jimmy Normans; the Willie Normans, etc. Norman is absolutely not a common name in Sutherland so I think your Norman must have some sort of link with this Rogart family. Wish I could think of a way to advise you but I have been struggling for ages myself trying to sort out all these Rogart Macdonalds. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:27 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Helping a Friend Hi Christine I checked for Norman as father like you said, the IGI website said I either had to have the first name of the mother or the childs name typed in. I next did a search for Alexander fathers name Norman, and came up with no Alexander McDonald born in Sutherland. According to what I found on Norman McDonald he should have been in Golspie for quite awhile, thats if the information is true. Here it is Norman McDonald b. abt 1749 in Golspie, married Janet Gunn Dec 13 1774 in Golspie. This is according to the IGI, and I have not found any other birth record for a Norman in all of Scotland that even comes close in the IGI. Thanks Again Robin --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robin > Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to > www.streetmap.co.uk > Put in Dornoch and tick UK place > When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left > and you will come to > Evelix. > > Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie > did not think mothers > very important and so up until the early 1800s only > fathers are shown on the > registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the > father and search ALL you > should see the children born to him. Norman > Macdonald is not a common name > so you should get a good idea. Only way to check > they are his children is to > follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all > born in the same place > or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they > are there with their > children. > > How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look > him up on some lists I > have here. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Helping a Friend > > Hi Christine > > This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where > Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, > so > I am confused now, which according to my husband is > nothing new. > The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married > in > 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned > on the IGI. Is that unusual? > > Thanks Again > Robin and my friend Jim > --- Christine Stokes > <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > > I have information o > > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA > GRAY > > [1764-24/5/1834] > > [c1776-27/5/1860] > > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and > (Isobel/Bell) > > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > > Isabella is the daughter of > > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > > had the following > > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > > October 1796 Rearchar > > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error > on > > this families > > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or > Margaret, > > born 31 January 1802 > > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > > - see note below; > > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > > February 1809 Pronsy [married > > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > > Rogart] [married > > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born > 14 > > May 1815 Balvraid; > > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > > Mackay died in 1834 and > > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > > Thomas and Mary. There seems > > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > > George and Isabella Mackay, > > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at > Coul, > > the house was referred > > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 > years, > > had nine acres of land. > > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all > unmarried, > > were with her. There > > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > > 7, born in Dornoch, with > > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > > and a widow. Her son in > > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death > certificate > > as the informant. > > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > > mentioned above, may be the > > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > > Mackay, who had the only child > > of this name born at that time. However, the > census > > states she was born in > > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > > Alexander Macdonald and > > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, > born > > 28 June 1827; John, born > > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, > born > > 14 November 1833; > > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June > 1836; > > Thomas, born 23 January > > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > > > Christine > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Van Belleghem > > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Helping a Friend > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > > 27 Aug > > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > > list] > > > > wife of Thomas > > > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch > Parish, > > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. > Cawmore, > > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Isabella > > > > James McKAY and > > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 > dp. > > Evelix, > > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, > Dornoch, > > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > > 1911 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas > Gibson] > > > > wife of Hugh > > > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > > Knockarthur, > > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Margaret > > > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > > Parish, > > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > > 1871 dp. > > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. > 4 > > Jul 1866 > > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > > parents of Alexander > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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There was a Norman Macdonald family in Rogart said to come from a Major Macdonald who is buried in Rogart. Norman Macdonald appears to be the son of a James Macdonald son of the Major. Now it is said locally that all the Macdonalds in the old kirkyard in Rogart are of the same family but this is hard to prove. Descendants were known as the Jimmy Normans; the Willie Normans, etc. Norman is absolutely not a common name in Sutherland so I think your Norman must have some sort of link with this Rogart family. Wish I could think of a way to advise you but I have been struggling for ages myself trying to sort out all these Rogart Macdonalds. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:27 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Helping a Friend Hi Christine I checked for Norman as father like you said, the IGI website said I either had to have the first name of the mother or the childs name typed in. I next did a search for Alexander fathers name Norman, and came up with no Alexander McDonald born in Sutherland. According to what I found on Norman McDonald he should have been in Golspie for quite awhile, thats if the information is true. Here it is Norman McDonald b. abt 1749 in Golspie, married Janet Gunn Dec 13 1774 in Golspie. This is according to the IGI, and I have not found any other birth record for a Norman in all of Scotland that even comes close in the IGI. Thanks Again Robin --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robin > Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to > www.streetmap.co.uk > Put in Dornoch and tick UK place > When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left > and you will come to > Evelix. > > Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie > did not think mothers > very important and so up until the early 1800s only > fathers are shown on the > registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the > father and search ALL you > should see the children born to him. Norman > Macdonald is not a common name > so you should get a good idea. Only way to check > they are his children is to > follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all > born in the same place > or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they > are there with their > children. > > How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look > him up on some lists I > have here. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Helping a Friend > > Hi Christine > > This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where > Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, > so > I am confused now, which according to my husband is > nothing new. > The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married > in > 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned > on the IGI. Is that unusual? > > Thanks Again > Robin and my friend Jim > --- Christine Stokes > <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > > I have information o > > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA > GRAY > > [1764-24/5/1834] > > [c1776-27/5/1860] > > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and > (Isobel/Bell) > > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > > Isabella is the daughter of > > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > > had the following > > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > > October 1796 Rearchar > > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error > on > > this families > > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or > Margaret, > > born 31 January 1802 > > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > > - see note below; > > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > > February 1809 Pronsy [married > > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > > Rogart] [married > > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born > 14 > > May 1815 Balvraid; > > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > > Mackay died in 1834 and > > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > > Thomas and Mary. There seems > > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > > George and Isabella Mackay, > > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at > Coul, > > the house was referred > > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 > years, > > had nine acres of land. > > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all > unmarried, > > were with her. There > > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > > 7, born in Dornoch, with > > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > > and a widow. Her son in > > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death > certificate > > as the informant. > > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > > mentioned above, may be the > > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > > Mackay, who had the only child > > of this name born at that time. However, the > census > > states she was born in > > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > > Alexander Macdonald and > > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, > born > > 28 June 1827; John, born > > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, > born > > 14 November 1833; > > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June > 1836; > > Thomas, born 23 January > > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > > > Christine > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Van Belleghem > > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Helping a Friend > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > > 27 Aug > > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > > list] > > > > wife of Thomas > > > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch > Parish, > > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. > Cawmore, > > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Isabella > > > > James McKAY and > > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 > dp. > > Evelix, > > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, > Dornoch, > > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > > 1911 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas > Gibson] > > > > wife of Hugh > > > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > > Knockarthur, > > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Margaret > > > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > > Parish, > > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > > 1871 dp. > > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. > 4 > > Jul 1866 > > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > > parents of Alexander > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Might be worth trying Golspie High School to see if it has a copy. The school had a few good old books at one time but I don't know if that was one. Interesting that it appears on the net from France. Ive heard of this book though I've never seen a copy. Something in the far reaches of my memory (not the most reliable of things) makes me think that decendants of one of the contributers was mentioned as being still in Golspie. This I assume was picked up on the net> Grant

Hi Christine I checked for Norman as father like you said, the IGI website said I either had to have the first name of the mother or the childs name typed in. I next did a search for Alexander fathers name Norman, and came up with no Alexander McDonald born in Sutherland. According to what I found on Norman McDonald he should have been in Golspie for quite awhile, thats if the information is true. Here it is Norman McDonald b. abt 1749 in Golspie, married Janet Gunn Dec 13 1774 in Golspie. This is according to the IGI, and I have not found any other birth record for a Norman in all of Scotland that even comes close in the IGI. Thanks Again Robin --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robin > Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to > www.streetmap.co.uk > Put in Dornoch and tick UK place > When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left > and you will come to > Evelix. > > Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie > did not think mothers > very important and so up until the early 1800s only > fathers are shown on the > registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the > father and search ALL you > should see the children born to him. Norman > Macdonald is not a common name > so you should get a good idea. Only way to check > they are his children is to > follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all > born in the same place > or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they > are there with their > children. > > How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look > him up on some lists I > have here. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Helping a Friend > > Hi Christine > > This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where > Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, > so > I am confused now, which according to my husband is > nothing new. > The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married > in > 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned > on the IGI. Is that unusual? > > Thanks Again > Robin and my friend Jim > --- Christine Stokes > <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > > I have information o > > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA > GRAY > > [1764-24/5/1834] > > [c1776-27/5/1860] > > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and > (Isobel/Bell) > > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > > Isabella is the daughter of > > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > > had the following > > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > > October 1796 Rearchar > > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error > on > > this families > > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or > Margaret, > > born 31 January 1802 > > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > > - see note below; > > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > > February 1809 Pronsy [married > > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > > Rogart] [married > > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born > 14 > > May 1815 Balvraid; > > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > > Mackay died in 1834 and > > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > > Thomas and Mary. There seems > > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > > George and Isabella Mackay, > > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at > Coul, > > the house was referred > > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 > years, > > had nine acres of land. > > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all > unmarried, > > were with her. There > > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > > 7, born in Dornoch, with > > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > > and a widow. Her son in > > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death > certificate > > as the informant. > > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > > mentioned above, may be the > > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > > Mackay, who had the only child > > of this name born at that time. However, the > census > > states she was born in > > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > > Alexander Macdonald and > > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, > born > > 28 June 1827; John, born > > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, > born > > 14 November 1833; > > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June > 1836; > > Thomas, born 23 January > > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > > > Christine > > Highland Hearts > > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Van Belleghem > > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Helping a Friend > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > > 27 Aug > > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > > list] > > > > wife of Thomas > > > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch > Parish, > > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. > Cawmore, > > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Isabella > > > > James McKAY and > > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 > dp. > > Evelix, > > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, > Dornoch, > > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > > 1911 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas > Gibson] > > > > wife of Hugh > > > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > > Knockarthur, > > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > > > parents of Margaret > > > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > > Parish, > > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > > 1871 dp. > > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. > 4 > > Jul 1866 > > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > > > parents of Alexander > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

Hi I remember reading in the newspaper last year about a bowling club in Melbourne whos members decided to sell their greens which were prime real estate. They changed their mind when it was found that James Munro the former Premier of Victoria had given them the land but inserted a clause that if the land was ever sold the money was to go to his descendents. Regards Colin

Hi Robin Evelix is in Dornoch parish. If you go to www.streetmap.co.uk Put in Dornoch and tick UK place When map of Dornoch comes up keep moving to the left and you will come to Evelix. Unfortunately the parish register keepers in Golspie did not think mothers very important and so up until the early 1800s only fathers are shown on the registers. If you put in Norman Macdonald as the father and search ALL you should see the children born to him. Norman Macdonald is not a common name so you should get a good idea. Only way to check they are his children is to follow it through the OPRs and see if they were all born in the same place or look at the 1841 census records in the hope they are there with their children. How long do you think he was in Golspie? I can look him up on some lists I have here. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:42 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Helping a Friend Hi Christine This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, so I am confused now, which according to my husband is nothing new. The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married in 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned on the IGI. Is that unusual? Thanks Again Robin and my friend Jim --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > I have information o > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA GRAY > [1764-24/5/1834] > [c1776-27/5/1860] > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and (Isobel/Bell) > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > Isabella is the daughter of > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > had the following > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > October 1796 Rearchar > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error on > this families > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or Margaret, > born 31 January 1802 > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > - see note below; > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > February 1809 Pronsy [married > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > Rogart] [married > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born 14 > May 1815 Balvraid; > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > Mackay died in 1834 and > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > Thomas and Mary. There seems > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > George and Isabella Mackay, > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at Coul, > the house was referred > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 years, > had nine acres of land. > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all unmarried, > were with her. There > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > 7, born in Dornoch, with > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > and a widow. Her son in > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death certificate > as the informant. > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > mentioned above, may be the > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > Mackay, who had the only child > of this name born at that time. However, the census > states she was born in > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > Alexander Macdonald and > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, born > 28 June 1827; John, born > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, born > 14 November 1833; > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June 1836; > Thomas, born 23 January > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Helping a Friend > > Hi Everyone > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > 27 Aug > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > list] > > wife of Thomas > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch Parish, > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. Cawmore, > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Isabella > > James McKAY and > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 dp. > Evelix, > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > ------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, Dornoch, > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > 1911 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas Gibson] > > wife of Hugh > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > Knockarthur, > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Margaret > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > Parish, > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > 1871 dp. > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. 4 > Jul 1866 > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > parents of Alexander > > Norman McDONALD b. bp. m. 13 Dec > 1774 d. dp. > and > Janet GUNN b. bp. d. dp. > > parents of Elizabeth McKay > > George McKAY b. bp. m. 16 Feb 1793 d. > dp. > and > Isabel GRAY b. bp. d. dp. > > If anyone knows anything about these families, > please > contact me a rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk > > Thank you > Robin > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous > messages to this list. 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Lizzi Yes, I have the book! Let me know what you'd like to know, and I'll do my best to answer you, off-line perhaps. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "lizzi bell" <lizzibell@bigpond.com.au> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: GOLSPIE BOOK > I have found a book which I think is about Golspie and before I pay a huge price for this wonder if anyone has heard of it. > > 'Golspie-Contributions to its Folklore' by Edward Williams Byron Nicholson. > > Lizzi > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11H B > > >

I have found a book which I think is about Golspie and before I pay a huge price for this wonder if anyone has heard of it. 'Golspie-Contributions to its Folklore' by Edward Williams Byron Nicholson. Lizzi

Hi Christine This is great, Thank you. Can you tell me where Evelicks is? The IGI has it as ROC and Sutherland, so I am confused now, which according to my husband is nothing new. The IGI has Norman McDonald and Janet Gunn married in 1774 in Golspie, but there are no children mentioned on the IGI. Is that unusual? Thanks Again Robin and my friend Jim --- Christine Stokes <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Robin > I have information o > K713 GEORGE MACKAY married ISABELLA GRAY > [1764-24/5/1834] > [c1776-27/5/1860] > George of Craigyaclishie?, Rogart, and (Isobel/Bell) > in Evelicks, Dornoch, > married in Dornoch on 16 February 1793 (OPR). > Isabella is the daughter of > Alexander Gray and Mary Ross (DC). George and Bell > had the following > children born in Dornoch (IGI/OPR): PETER, born 30 > October 1796 Rearchar > [died 8 June 1844 Rogart - note there is an error on > this families > gravestone regarding Peter's age]; MARY or Margaret, > born 31 January 1802 > Pronsy; ELIZABETH (Betty), born 29 May 1804 Pronsy > - see note below; > ROBERT, born 29 May 1806 Pronsy; JANE, born 5 > February 1809 Pronsy [married > Donald Mackenzie - see Mackenzie Families E227] > (OPR/MC); THOMAS, born 6 > February 1812 Pronsy [died 11 July 1867 Inchomnie, > Rogart] [married > Catherine Mackay - see K1544] (DC); WILLIAM, born 14 > May 1815 Balvraid; > MARY, born 5 October 1818 Skelbo [died 21 January > 1902 Rhilochan, Rogart] > [married William Mackay - see K1705] (DC). George > Mackay died in 1834 and > is buried in Rogart. In 1841 at Coul, Rogart, > Isabella Mackay, widow, was a > tenant, living with her children, Peter, Jane, > Thomas and Mary. There seems > to have also been two grandchildren in the home, > George and Isabella Mackay, > aged 10 years and 5 years. In 1851, still at Coul, > the house was referred > to as I. Gray's House. Isabella, now aged 63 years, > had nine acres of land. > Her children, Jane, Thomas and Mary, all unmarried, > were with her. There > was also a granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, age > 7, born in Dornoch, with > them. Isabella died at Inchomnie in 1860, a tenant > and a widow. Her son in > law, Donald Mackenzie, signed the death certificate > as the informant. > Notes: The granddaughter, Annabella Macdonald, > mentioned above, may be the > daughter of Alexander Macdonald and Elizabeth > Mackay, who had the only child > of this name born at that time. However, the census > states she was born in > Dornoch, so difficult to prove this is her. > Alexander Macdonald and > Elizabeth Mackay had the following children > (MACDONALD) born in Rogart > (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825; Isabel, born > 28 June 1827; John, born > 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, born > 14 November 1833; > Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June 1836; > Thomas, born 23 January > 1839; Annabella, born 30 June 1841. > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Van Belleghem > [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Helping a Friend > > Hi Everyone > > A friend has asked me if I could put his family > surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. > > > Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. > 27 Aug > 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, > Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my > list] > > wife of Thomas > > Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch Parish, > Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. Cawmore, > Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Isabella > > James McKAY and > Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 dp. > Evelix, > Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > ------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, Dornoch, > Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar > 1911 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas Gibson] > > wife of Hugh > > Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. > Knockarthur, > Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. > Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland > > parents of Margaret > > Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart > Parish, > Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep > 1871 dp. > Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and > Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. 4 > Jul 1866 > dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland > > parents of Alexander > > Norman McDONALD b. bp. m. 13 Dec > 1774 d. dp. > and > Janet GUNN b. bp. d. dp. > > parents of Elizabeth McKay > > George McKAY b. bp. m. 16 Feb 1793 d. > dp. > and > Isabel GRAY b. bp. d. dp. > > If anyone knows anything about these families, > please > contact me a rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk > > Thank you > Robin > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous > messages to this list. 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Well there is no doubt he was a Scot!! Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Sutherland [mailto:majec@netconnect.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:26 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: James Munro Hi I remember reading in the newspaper last year about a bowling club in Melbourne whos members decided to sell their greens which were prime real estate. They changed their mind when it was found that James Munro the former Premier of Victoria had given them the land but inserted a clause that if the land was ever sold the money was to go to his descendents. Regards Colin ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Found out this much: NICHOLSON, Edward W.B. (ed.) Golspie. Contributions to its folklore by Annie and Bella Cumming, Jane Stuart, Willie W. Munro, Andrew Gunn, Henri J. MacLean, and Minnie Sutherland (when pupils of Golspie School) London: D. Nutt, 1897 xvi-352pp. Illus. Music + 14 plates (some photogravure) + fldg. litho. map. Gilt pict. cloth (ex-library). Available on the internet from France at £28 sterling plus postage! Too much for an old book. Perhaps there is a copy in Golspie library? Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** This is an old book - 19th century from memory - and has I think been mentioned before. One should not pay too much for a second hand copy. It has some interesting material but is definitely not a history of Golspie. For that one should buy the late Margaret Grant's book and booklet. Malcolm Bangor-Jones -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 13 June 2001 12:10 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: GOLSPIE BOOK ******************************************************************* This email has been received from an external party and has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************* Hi Lizzi I have not heard of this book - is there a publisher? If so and if it is in Sutherland I will try to find out more for you. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lizzi bell [mailto:lizzibell@bigpond.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:49 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GOLSPIE BOOK I have found a book which I think is about Golspie and before I pay a huge price for this wonder if anyone has heard of it. 'Golspie-Contributions to its Folklore' by Edward Williams Byron Nicholson. Lizzi ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi, Those of you who have ancestors associated with the world of entertainment may be interested in my extraction project. The Scotland Region - Highlands extracts of the 'Entertainers on the 1881 Census' are now on my Web site. The URL for anyone interested is - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie Regards, Dave Jassie - List Administrator for - THEATRE-UK-L NIR-ARMAGH-L JASSIE-L list.admin@ntlworld.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/ - THEATRE-UK Web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm/ - ARMAGH Web site Greetings from Lincoln, England

Hi Lizzi I have not heard of this book - is there a publisher? If so and if it is in Sutherland I will try to find out more for you. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lizzi bell [mailto:lizzibell@bigpond.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:49 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GOLSPIE BOOK I have found a book which I think is about Golspie and before I pay a huge price for this wonder if anyone has heard of it. 'Golspie-Contributions to its Folklore' by Edward Williams Byron Nicholson. Lizzi ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Hello Christine, The final sentence from the extract from the Grolier Encyclopeadia says that James MUNRO did marry: "He married in 1853 Jane Macdonald, and had a family of four sons and three daughters." Unfortunately, there is nothing about all those children in the entry. Lyndall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: RE: [A.G.R. ] Fw: James Munro Premier Vic > Hi > Taken me a while but I think I have found the birth of the James Munro who > became Premier of Victoria, Australia. > He was christened in Dornoch on 13th January 1832, son of Hector Munro and > Sarah Mann. > His siblings were: Mary, born 17th November 1817; Hector, born 11th July > 1819; Donald, born 3rd August 1821; William, born 16th May 1824 and Betsy, > born 1833. > Does anyone know if James Munro married and had children? > Did he use Hector or Sarah for children's names? > Like Lyndall would be lovely if someone could 'claim' him! > > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/

The following extract form the book "The Land Boomers" by Michael Cannon was sent to me some years ago. I am interested in a Donald Munro and his brother John who lived in Melbourne. They were cousins of my Gt Grandfather and were from Lairg. Melbourne 1880's onwards James Munro claimed descent form a baronet of the same name. Was born in Scotland in 1832. Became printer by trade. At 21 married Jane MacDonald in Edinburgh & had 4 sons & 3 daughters. Emigrated toVictoria 1858 - became printer. James was a teetoller, started Real Estate Bank, Federal Bank and rose to become Premier of Victoria. Depositors invested 2 million sterling and when the bubble burst Munro hastily had himself appointed Agent General in London and fled the Colony. Later returning to face creditors & Insolvency Court. His son Donald became prominent in Victorian Land boom. Had a successful auctioneer - estate agency with Baillieu - Munro & Baillieu - lots of noices for land sales with their names in the better parts of Melbourne. They too went broke. Donald Munro resigned in 1887 just before he went broke but had to face the courts. Alexander another son appointed Manager of one of his fathers companies. son in law Robert Wallam? Balding also in one of their companies. Pam cook Christchurch, NZ

Hi Grant Can you confirm Wemyss Cavaick's real name? Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: croftergee [mailto:croftergee@clynelish.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:09 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Interesting Book I was at Cavaick last weekend visiting my lifelong friend Richard Bremner a decendant of "Wemyss Cavaick" who still lives in the family home. I remember "Wemyss" visiting his homeland when I was a small boy. To extend on Isabellas point about Cavaick (various spelling as is so often the case in the Highlands) being close to Brochrobbie and Badnellan is correct. Brochrobbie was generally seen as the area below Cavaick close to the river. The most easterly house in Badnellan is just above Cavaick. Ive seen some overlap in Brochrobbie, Badnellan and Cavaick when checking records. Grant ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Here is some information on Elizabeth Mackay married to Alexander Macdonald: K609/1 ELIZABETH MACKAY married ALEXANDER MACDONALD [29/5/1804-4/7/1866] Elizabeth is the daughter of George Mackay and Isabel Gray - see K713. She married Alexander Macdonald, son of Norman Macdonald and Janet Gunn of Rogart. Alexander and Elizabeth had the following children (MACDONALD) born in Rogart (IGI): Margaret, born 7 November 1825 Knockarthur, Rogart [died 21 December 1906 Golspie] [married Hugh Gibson - see K837A]; Isabel, born 28 June 1827; John, born 3 June 1829; George, born 18 July 1831; Robert, born 14 November 1833; Janet, born 24 June 1836; Norman, born 24 June 1836; Thomas, born 23 January 1839 and Annabella, born 30 June 1841. Robin Van Bellegham is currently researching this family. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin Van Belleghem [mailto:rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Helping a Friend Hi Everyone A friend has asked me if I could put his family surmames on the Sutherland list, so here it is. Thomas Gibson b. around 1780 m. 8 Jul 1820 d. 27 Aug 1841 dp. Evelixmuir, Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland[this is the same Thomas Gibson from my list] wife of Thomas Isabella McKAY b. Circa 1793 bp. Dornoch Parish, Sutherland, Scotland d. 4 Oct 1873 dp. Cawmore, Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland parents of Isabella James McKAY and Isabella ROSS b. bp. d. 16 Jan 1825 dp. Evelix, Dornoch, Sutherlandshire, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------- Hugh GIBSON b. 7 Dec 1829 bp. Evelix, Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland m. 19 Dec 1852 d. 14 Mar 1911 dp. Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland[son of Thomas Gibson] wife of Hugh Margaret McDONALD b. 1 Nov 1825 bp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland d. 21 Dec 1906 dp. Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland parents of Margaret Alexander McDONALD b. Circa 1797 bp. Rogart Parish, Sutherlandshire, Scotland m. d. 10 Sep 1871 dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherland, Scotland and Elizabeth (Betsy, Betty) McKAY b. bp. d. 4 Jul 1866 dp. Knockarthur, Rogart, Sutherlandshire, Scotland parents of Alexander Norman McDONALD b. bp. m. 13 Dec 1774 d. dp. and Janet GUNN b. bp. d. dp. parents of Elizabeth McKay George McKAY b. bp. m. 16 Feb 1793 d. dp. and Isabel GRAY b. bp. d. dp. If anyone knows anything about these families, please contact me a rvanb2001@yahoo.co.uk Thank you Robin ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Can anyone tell me where this is or was? Sometimes referred to as Cluranch or Cluranich. Cannot find it on my map. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

I was at Cavaick last weekend visiting my lifelong friend Richard Bremner a decendant of "Wemyss Cavaick" who still lives in the family home. I remember "Wemyss" visiting his homeland when I was a small boy. To extend on Isabellas point about Cavaick (various spelling as is so often the case in the Highlands) being close to Brochrobbie and Badnellan is correct. Brochrobbie was generally seen as the area below Cavaick close to the river. The most easterly house in Badnellan is just above Cavaick. Ive seen some overlap in Brochrobbie, Badnellan and Cavaick when checking records. Grant