Can anyone help Patti? Christine I have been struggling with Alexander and Anne Matheson for as long as I have known they have existed. Would (or could) someone please help me straighten these two people out - and put them on the road to greater understanding? Alexander (Bon Homme) Matheson was born in Helmsdale OR Lairg, Sutherlandshire around 1781. One lovely Thursday - 9 February 1805 - in Kildonan OR Authbreackachy Alexander took Anne Matheson for his bride. I THINK he found her in Gartymore, the Parish of Loth. She may even have been born there sometime around 1781. These two starstruck souls join forces to produce several possibilities - which we might call OFFSPRING or ISSUE. As far as I am concerned - they just produced HEADACHES! Introducing the Matheson Migraine Production. . . . . John 18 June 1797 Ann 1 July 1799 James 16 July 1802 **HUGH 12 Feb 1805 Katherine 4 April 1807 William 15 Mar 1807 George 21 Aug 1808 James 29 March 1809 **Angus 5 Sept 1810 **Katherine 3 July 1812 **John 28 Sept 1814 You can see there are some questionable birthdates in this mixture. I know you must be asking. . . . where DID all these children come from? Stumped? Me, too! But that isn't the BEST part of this saga. The Duke of Sutherland decided to clear out a few encumbrances. He suggested that the Matheson-Matheson show take their act on the road. Wisely, Ann and Alexander each grabbed a couple of children (the four above with the handy **s in front of their names)and got on a boat going to the Red River Settlement in Canada. A LOT of questions rise up in your mind, don't they!? Why didn't they take ALL of the children? Had the others DIED? Did they stay behind with family who did not leave for Canada? Did the left behind children NOT BELONG to Alexander and Ann? How will I EVER get this mess sorted out? (I am SO glad you asked that!) Does there happen to be a Matheson cousin out there who would like to step forward and put me (AND Alex and Ann!) on the path to inner peace and discovery? (Or out of our misery?) Do the words "eternally grateful" give you an idea how I would feel? I know I have asked a lot of questions, but I KNOW there are answers out there. Could some kind soul please point me to them? Patti - from the mountains of North America -- Patti Flynn Heimsness pattiflynn@gmx.net Sutherland Research Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Hello Frances I researched all the Murray Families of Sutherland a number of years ago and this family certainly proved difficult as you will read here. Perhaps together we can 'fix' it? 2-014 CATHERINE MURRAY married ALEXANDER CALDER [7/1/1817-17/7/1886] [1808-19/12/1886] Catherine was born at Cregnaclacul, 200 yards north of Aisdale, Creich, daughter of John Murray and Ann Matheson - see 4-142. She married Alexander, a tenant farmer at Achuan, on 19 December 1865 in Creich (IGI). Achuan was situated half a mile to the south of Cregnaclacul. It is likely that Alexander is the son of Robert Calder and Jean Mackay, tenants at Achuan. According to legend the Mackays were prominant around Bonar. The first Calder came there from Cawdor seeking refuge. He married a daughter of the local chief Mackay. Because of that union the Calders were given for all time the head of the cemetery at Creich as burial ground. As late as the 1970s that was still the case. Catherine and Alexander had the following children (CALDER): Robert, born 1852 [died 10 April 1920] (GY); Margaret, born 15 August 1857; Elspet Murray, born 27 February 1860 [died 1926 Oban - spinster] (IGI94/RLMK); male child, born and died 24 October 1866 Airdins (DC); Neil, born 26 December 1867 (IGI94); and his twin Donald (IGI94): John, born 22 April 1869 (IGI94); William, born 18 December 1872 (IGI94) and Jean, born 17 November 1874 [died 1908 Kentucky, U.S.A.] (IGI94). Catherine and her husband are buried at Creich (GY232/1&63) where Elspeth erected a gravestone in their memory. (editor's note: there are many discrepancies in this reference. According to what is recorded on the IGI Catherine had children before her marriage and continued to have them right up to nearly sixty years of age! This family was also researched by R L Mackay in the 1970s and his information is similar to that shown above. He also showed three more children: Helen, Anne and Andrewina. Neil, Donald and William shown above were not found by R L Mackay but did show up in the latest edition of the IGI. I now wonder if there were two couples named Catherine Murray and Alexander Calder? Certainly more research is needed.) Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Frances Della Moretta [mailto:dellamor@iinet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:54 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUT: CALDER, MURRAY at Bonar Bridge Looking for information about the following family - Alexander CALDER married Catherine MURRAY in 1865 Children Neil born 1867 Donald born 1867 (twins) John born 1869 William born 1872 Jane (Jean) born 1874 Jessie (Janet) born 1877 Neil and Donald went to America around 1882 and Neil returned to Scotland in 1893 then left again for Australia in 1894. Donald apparently stayed in America. I am not sure yet when Alexander was born or who his parents were. He died in 1888 at Bonar Bridge. Two sisters living with the family in the 1881 census lead me to believe his parents were Donald CALDER and Jean GUNN. The sisters names were Margaret (born c.1825) and Dolina (born c. 1830) I believe Catherine is the daughter of Niel MURRAY and Janet MUNRO of Bonar Bridge. If any one is researching the same family or has any information I would be very happy to here from you. Thanks, Fran ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

Hi Jim Someone has asked me if it is possible that George was married before he married Isabella Gray. Have you any information regarding this? The person in question is looking for the parents of William MacKay born, Dec 1789. Regards Robin ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

While perhaps not a "favourite" site in that sense, I was able to find particulars of the burial of several relatives (and to obtain a Commemoration print-out) The site's preamble says it contains service details of 1.7 million members of Commonwealth forces who died in the first and second world wars. Its address is http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf I mention it in case some members of the list are not aware of it. Ian

Under SUT:GIBSON, McDONALD, McKAY -- Jim Gibson wrote (in part): > >...Some years ago I copied all the McDONALDs in the Rogart OPR. The >earliest record was the birth of Donald to Donald McDONALD at Knockarthur >in 1768 with a further 12 births in the following 4 years. Then there was >a gap from 1772 to 1795. After that and until civil registration started >in 1855, there were a further 135 births recorded... Hello, Jim Do these baptismal registers contain the actual birth dates as well as the details of baptism (date of baptism, child's name, parents, residence of parents)? With thanks in advance, Frances

Hi All, I am wondering if there is anyone who could tell me of the newspapers operating in Caithness in the late 1800's and early 1900's. I have a very old newspaper clipping which indicates that my family of Doull's were in the news on various occassions because of their distinguished war serice in a number of arena's but there is no indication that I can read as to where this cutting was taken. At the bottom of the article they say that the photo's came courtesy of the "Aldershot News". How do I access old newspaper archives? TIA. Pat Rawlings

Here's mine :http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/ken.henderson Ken

Hi Christine, I'm not sure whether I understood your reply to Jim correctly, i.e. you were uncertain of Sir John's paternal grandfather? James Hunter in his book "A Dance Called America" has Hugh MacDonald being born in 1782 at Strathoykel to John MacDonald and Jean MacDonald. The IGI has a Hugh born 12 December 1782 to John MacDonald and Jean MacDonald at Rogart. There appear to have been several couples named John and Jean MacDonald but four possible siblings of Hugh are listed: Annie 8 Sept 1779; Isabella 1 Oct 1784; Alexander 20 Apr 1786; Jane 17 Jul 1789. Hunter also says that the family later moved to Dornoch. Hunter quotes as a source "'John A. MacDonald: The Young Politician" by D. Creighton, published in Toronto in 1952. Possibly you already knew this. Ian

Keep in touch Its a great idea. I'm often up in Brora in October. Grant

Lots of info on MacLeads and Mathersons Mail me with details of what you are looking for Grant

Looking for information about the following family - Alexander CALDER married Catherine MURRAY in 1865 Children Neil born 1867 Donald born 1867 (twins) John born 1869 William born 1872 Jane (Jean) born 1874 Jessie (Janet) born 1877 Neil and Donald went to America around 1882 and Neil returned to Scotland in 1893 then left again for Australia in 1894. Donald apparently stayed in America. I am not sure yet when Alexander was born or who his parents were. He died in 1888 at Bonar Bridge. Two sisters living with the family in the 1881 census lead me to believe his parents were Donald CALDER and Jean GUNN. The sisters names were Margaret (born c.1825) and Dolina (born c. 1830) I believe Catherine is the daughter of Niel MURRAY and Janet MUNRO of Bonar Bridge. If any one is researching the same family or has any information I would be very happy to here from you. Thanks, Fran

Here's my web site for my family searches (MURRAY/MUNRO) in Sutherland area. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sparrow Good hunting everyone. Heather Murray Canada

Hello all, My grandparents used to live in Brora at Stanley Cottage. I have happy memories out there of visits there when I was young. Anyone out there linking in to Macleod or Matheson families who were connected with Brora? My grandfather was a shemaker there from around the 1920s till his death. Kate Kate and David Ferris kate@globalnet.co.uk

Hi Jim Your family fascinates me. You gave a lot of info in your introduction but I wonder if you have dates to add to it? I know you wished me luck in sorting out the Macdonalds in Rogart but I am actually winning! I sorted out the Murrays and the Mackays and the Macdonalds are a much smaller lot but boy are they a secretive crowd! To cover a couple of points in your message - I am still convinced that Annabella Macdonald was born in Dornoch - it was quite normal, nearly traditional, for a child to be born at the mother's old home and frequently that child would be left there to be brought up. My own grandfather was born in his granny's croft at Torbreck and it now seems he lived there until grown enough to leave Rogart for Edinburgh. His parents lived at the other end of Strathfleet at Rhemusaig. The Major Macdonald is a John. Major John Macdonald died at Blarich, Rogart in 1792 aged 72. My information on him being the progenitor of all the Macdonalds in Rogart is from a Macdonald in Rogart! We had a great long chat about this just recently and the Macdonalds in Rogart are all convinced of this. I never put down local history which comes by word of mouth as there is always some truth in it. James Macdonald married to Barbara Mackay is the father of Norman Macdonald, who was known locally as Jimmy Norman, and a grandson of Alistair Norman Macdonald, another military man. Barbara Mackay came from Golspie and that is where this family first lived. There is much to add to this and if you could write me your email again with some dates on it we could tie a great deal up. Regarding Sir John A Macdonald I feel sure he did come off this Macdonald family but there is still a question mark over which of the brothers was his grandfather - I have my suspicions but like you struggling to prove. The Northern Times article was one of many which tried to determine who was the father of Hugh. You ask if people in Canada know his roots and I can assure you they do. Sir John was held in great esteem and many, many people are out there searching all wishing to be one of those Macdonalds. Most people visit the cairn to his memory in Dalmore during their visit. If you have not visited I can send you a photograph. I hope you enjoy our list and look forward to continuing this debate with you. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gibson [mailto:jasgibson@clear.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:15 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SUT:GIBSON,McDONALD,McKAY Hi Everybody, I did subscribe to the list last week but seemingly, for the reason Christine explained, my introduction didn't make it to the list. I'll try again. My name is James GIBSON, known as Jim. My grandfather, also James Gibson, left Golspie in 1884 at the age of 21, in company with his brother Norman, aged 17 to emigrate to New Zealand. They were sons of Hugh GIBSON (1829 - 1911) and Margaret McDONALD (1825 - 1906). Hugh was born in Evelix, Dornoch and Margaret in Knockarthur, Rogart. Hugh's parents were Thomas GIBSON (c1775 - 1841) and Isabella McKAY (c1893 - 1873) and Margaret's parents were Alexander McDONALD (c1797 - 1871) and Elizabeth or Betsy McKAY (1804 - 1866). NB. Most of these details were submitted on my behalf before I joined the list by Robin Van BELLEGHAM and Christine provided some information in return. Thank you Robin and Christine. In one of your messages Christine, you referred to Annabella MacDONALD recorded in the 1851 Census as living with her grandmother at Coul and born in Dornoch. You then said she may be the same Annabella McDONALD born to Alexander McDONALD and Elizabeth McKAY on 30 June 1841 in Rogart, but that it would be difficult to prove because of the differing birth places. However all Alexander and Elizabeth's 11 children, older and younger than Annabella, are listed in the OPR as being born in Knockarthur, Rogart. In the same 1851 Census, Annabella is not listed with the rest of her family at Knockarthur, obviously because she was living with her grandmother. I think grandma therefore got it wrong, when she had Annabella's birthplace recorded as Dornoch. Not absolute proof I agree Christine but good enough for me. You did say that you were trying to sort out the Rogart McDONALDs. Best of luck - it'll be quite a job because there a lot of them. Some years ago I recorded all the McDONALDs I could find in the Rogart OPR and promised myself that one day I'd try to sort them out. You may have motivated me to make a start. Robin, in a recent message to me, quoted Christine as saying, "There was a Norman McDONALD family in Rogart said to come from a Major McDONALD. Norman appears to be the son of a James McDONALD son of the Major." I am puzzled about this Major. Does anyone know his name. My g.g.g.grandfather was Norman McDONALD ie the above Alexander's father. Norman had another son, James married to Barbara McKAY. He was a sergeant, a veteran of the 93rd Regiment. One of their sons was a Norman McDONALD who lived most of his life at Torbreck, Rogart and another son was Lieut John McDONALD of the 1st Sutherland R.V. My g.g.g.grandfather, Norman had a brother John McDONALD and hi! s grandson, Sir John Alexander McDONALD became the first prime minister of the Canadian Federation. I wonder how many of listers living in Canada know that Sir John's roots are in Rogart. I have a transcript of an article written in 1923 in the "Northern Times" by a Colonel Gilbert GUNN in which attempts to sort out Sir John's forebears. They originated in Brecachadh, Knockarthur, Rogart. His father, Hugh lived in both Dalmore and Rovie, Strath Fleet and he owned shops in both places before moving to Glasgow. There he married Helen SHAW and it was in Glasgow that Sir John was born. Christine also referred to Thomas GIBSON, my g.g.grandfather who was a crofter at Camore, Evelix, Dornoch. I do not know where he was born. His mother's death is recorded at Evelix on 14 March 1824. No name was recorded, just Thomas GIBSON's mother who died old and blind. As Christine pointed out, Gibsons were rather thin on the ground in Sutherland - the name doesn't seem to belong there. There is a family legend which claims they came there as a result of a shipwreck at Portmahomack on the south side of Dornoch Firth. Does anyone know how this could be checked out. 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Iain A weekend in Sutherland at the time the heather is blooming, meeting you and others from the list? Count me in! Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Iain Sutherland [mailto:iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:46 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Sutherland My wife is of good Yorkshire stock (dare I say any different ) and is having great difficulty in tracing her Ancestors one of whom was accidentally killed in a Shotgun accident not 3 miles from Keighley where we live.She is gobsmacked to see the amount of information I have gained from this site long may it continue. There has been some private discussion about a possible weekend in Sutherland later this year perhaps based around Rogart & or Brora possibly a meeting could be arranged with Rogart Heritage Society and Brora Heritage over a long weekend The first step is to try and find out what interest there might be? If anybody is interested in a long weekend perhaps in October before half term (usually about 25th. onwards??) please let me know. IT IS ONLY AN IDEA NO PLANS ARE LAID IAIN ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

My wife is of good Yorkshire stock (dare I say any different ) and is having great difficulty in tracing her Ancestors one of whom was accidentally killed in a Shotgun accident not 3 miles from Keighley where we live.She is gobsmacked to see the amount of information I have gained from this site long may it continue. There has been some private discussion about a possible weekend in Sutherland later this year perhaps based around Rogart & or Brora possibly a meeting could be arranged with Rogart Heritage Society and Brora Heritage over a long weekend The first step is to try and find out what interest there might be? If anybody is interested in a long weekend perhaps in October before half term (usually about 25th. onwards??) please let me know. IT IS ONLY AN IDEA NO PLANS ARE LAID IAIN

As the letter which arrived this evening. May I suggest we totally ignore them. I tried to answer some of the previous ones to advise them not to write to this list but my emails were all returned as not known at the address given. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

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Hi Iain Taken me a while to manage to sort this out but I think I may have found the answer - at least it looks like it! The 1881 census shows James McBeath, age 36 born Clyne, cattle dealer with wife Margaret, age 38 born rogart at Achnagavish, Rogart with her Aunt Janet, age 76 and 'aunt' Christina age 60 also born in Rogart. I then turned to my Grant database and found this: Alexander Grant, died pre 1841, married Euphemia (Effie) Murray. They had children born at Achnagarrin, Rogart incluing Janet, born 27 December 1803 and Christina, born 1809. The 1841 shows Effie as a widow and an ag lab at Achnagarrin with her daughters Janet and Christina. These are obviously the aunts. I then went to look for the Alexander Sutherland and Christina Grant who are mentioned as parents of Margaret and lo and behold I found a couple of those names who had a daughter Margaret Sutherland, born 14 February 1840 in Rogart on the IGI. She would appear to be the only child this couple had - at least in Scotland. So it looks like the marriage certificate is correct and she is the daughter of Alex Sutherland and Christina Grant. On a marriage certificate a bride gives her own information to the registrar so you would think she would know. On her death certificate the info was given by someone else who got it wrong - happens all the time. The interesting thing is - is Christina Grant living with her in 1881 her mother? The aunt Janet is the first listed as head of household and she is an aunt - perhaps Christina was just dittoed! Worth a thought? Hope this helps. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Iain Sutherland [mailto:iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:06 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: McBeath My Great Grandfather was James McBeath born in 1845 the son of Neil McBeath.In 1871 James married Christina Sutherland the daughter of William Sutherland and Christina Sutherland m.s.Murray At Knockarthur on 08/09/1871. Christina died in 1874 and in 1879 on31/7 he married Margaret Sutherland the daughter of Alexander Sutherland and Christina Sutherland m.s. Grant. They had 2 children Neil 1881 and Margaret 1882. Margaret the wife died in 1916 and her death cert. at Inchomney Rogart and her Death cert. names parents William Sutherland and Christina m.s. Murray (the same as Christina wife no1) Our family seem to think that they were sisters? but the 3 certs. show different James details seem to tie in on each occasion. The 1881 census shows James at Achnaggarin with Margaret and son Neil and margarets aunts Janet and Christina Grant . Meanwhile at Loth ther was another James McBeath married to Catherine Reid my Maternal Grannies Auntie Help Iain ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01

My Mum (who was of good Highland stock ) always called my Brothers,sister and myself and I,ll type this as she pronounced it "Motch" or Motchkins" as a term of endearment or an announcement before a discussion as in " now then Motch" any ideas on it,s meaning ? Iain