Hi Fiona My Munro family came from the area you are researching - here is some data that may interest you. Donald MUNRO married Georgina McKAY in Tongue on 22/01/1826 - they had 7 children John,Jane Scobie, James, Johan, Lexy, and Kitty - 2 were christened at Tongue, 1 at Eddrachillis, 2 at Farr. Son James born in 1832 in Tongue married on 1.1.1857 in Eddrachillis, to Mina (nee CORBETT born 16 December 1837 in Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty- daughter of John CORBETT & Betsy or Elizabeth (PATERSON) - they lived in Achlyness overlooking Loch Inchard - James was a crofter. The house is still there in Achlyness and is the home of his great granddaughter. They had 6 boys, all born in Oldshoremore, George MUNRO born 6 February 1875, Donald MUNRO born 30 November 1857, James MUNRO born 19 September 1860, John MUNRO born 5 December 1863, Hugh born 16 January 1866, and another Hugh born 4 April 1870. George MUNRO went to school in Achylness, enlisted in the Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 17.12.1894 at age 19 yrs 9mths. Spent 7 1/2 years in army including 4 years in India and served in South Africa (Boer War Campaign) from December 1901 to June 1902. Back in Edinburgh mid 1902, he continued on the Reserve,he joined the Leith Police Force, Edinburgh where he was a constable. Discharged from the Black Watch Reserve in 1906 after completing 12 years in both army and Reserve. Awarded Queens South African medal. Augusina (Agnes) FRASER born 29.4.1878 in Achlyness,(her mother was a McKENZIE) lived near and went to school with George in Achlyness and later came to Edinburgh where she worked as a domestic and married George in 10.6.1903 in Edinburgh. They had 4 children in Edinburgh (Mina, Janet, Thomas, & Jemima) they decided to emigrate to New Zealand and George came to Wellington on his own in 1910 - his family (wife Agnes with children) went to Achlyness to live with his mother for 2 years until George sent for them to come to New Zealand. They eventually settled in Dunedin where they had 2 more children. He was a noted performer on the pipes and won New Zealand Piping Championships twice. His son Tom was also a New Zealand Champion piper. He was a foundation member of the Dunedin Scottish Society, official piper of the society for many years and was a very capable judge. George MUNRO is buried in the Andersons Bay Cemetery, Dunedin - he died on 13.2.1936.
Just a few Sutherland names from a passenger list I was looking at this evening for a ship named the "Lady Egidia" which sailed from Greenock 12 October 1860 and arrived at the Scottish settlement of Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand 26 Jan 1861 (one of my ancestors was on board also): Alex and Betsy McGREGOR, Dornoch Daniel McLEOD, Gruids, Lairg William McKAY, wife and 2 sons, Golspie Catherine MURRAY (residence not given, but appears directly below William McKAY and family above) Might be of interest to someone? Peter Grant London (ex Dunedin, New Zealand)
Thanks Rena Will look at these and adjust my refs. Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: I.L.Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:43 AM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Auld Kirk Burials Hi Christine, You're bang on in your identification of Donald MacKay and Catherine Bruce! I can add another child: George McKay was born 16 Aug. 1822. George married Frances Sutherland, 8 Jul 1847. (Frances was my g-grandfather's sister. She was born 29 May 1830, in Simcoe County.) They had 13 children, several of whom are buried with Catherine Bruce and Donald McKay. George died 15 May 1902 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Frances died in 1907. The Roderick McKay - Barbara Campbell connection, I fear, is a miss. This Roderick McKay appears to have been a child of George McKay and Isabella Matheson. The family came to the Red River in 1815, along with son Robert and daughter Roberta. According to the IGI, Roderick was born 7 Jan 1797. Roberta was born 18 Jan 1800 and Robert was born 20 Apr 1803. All births were in Kildonan. Their names appear on the Hadlow passenger list immediately before those of Donald McKay's family, suggesting a connection. The Bio for Donald seems a bit confused to me. I could unscramble the difficulties by guessing that Donald's parents were Isabella Matheson and George McKay. George, then, must have been buried in or near Winnipeg, Manitoba (not Hudson's Bay). The Seven Oaks massacre occurred near the Red River settlement, present-day Winnipeg. Does this agree with the information you have for Donald's father? Let me tidy this up. 1: George McKay and Isabella Matheson. 2: Donald McKay and Catherine Bruce 3: John McKay and Christina Sutherland 3: George McKay and Frances Sutherland 2: Roderick McKay and Jane McConkey 2: Roberta McKay 2: Robert McKay Since beginning this conjecture, I have found the original source of the Bio - it is from a Feb 7, 1908 article (my type-script is marked "Free Press") about John McKay. Here are the salient bits: "A memorable walk is still clear to his mind, when his father, Donald Mackay, took him across the fields and showed him the grave of his grandfather, who was buried close to nine of the men who had been killed in 1816 at the battle of Seven Oaks." (There actually were 21 men killed at the battle.) "In the spring of 1820 a party of the Selkirk settlers determined to abandon the settlement and set out for what was then known as Canada. The party consisted of about 30 white people, including Donald Mackay and his family. The boy, John Mackay, was then six years of age, and now, 88 years afterwards, the following names of members of that party are still clear in his mind. His grandmother, Elizabeth (sic) Matheson Mackay, his uncles, Robert and Roderick Mackay ..." By Jove, I think I've got it! Since there is a 12-year gap between Donald and Roderick, we're probably missing three (or more) children of Isabella Matheson and George McKay. Isabella, Roderick, wife, Jane McConkey, and Robert are buried together at the Auld Kirk. Regards, Rena >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 7/1/2001, 4:58:08 PM, "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote regarding RE: Auld Kirk Burials: > Rena > Could these two be those on your list? > K1521 RODERICK MACKAY married MARGARET CAMPBELL > Roderick in Birichen, Dornoch, and Margaret in Rearchar, Dornoch, married in > Dornoch on 27 February 1824 (OPR). They had the following children born in > Asdale, Dornoch, except their first child, Janet, who was born at Rearchar > (OPR): JANET, born 20 September 1825; ROBERT, born 2 March 1827 [died 4 May > 1828 Asdale] (OPR); FINLAY, born 16 March 1829 [died 2 March 1851 Asdale - > consumption] (OPR); JOHN, born 23 November 1830 [died 28 March 1851 Asdale - > fever] (OPR); JEAN, born 1 December 1832 and RODERICK, born circa 1833 [died > 22 January 1835 Asdale - smallpox] (OPR). (5/00) > K481/1 DONALD MACKAY married CATHERINE BRUCE > In January 1814 Donald and Catherine had a son: JOHN, born in Kildonan. In > June 1815 they sailed on the ship "Hadlow" from Cromarty for Hudson's Bay, > Canada as Selkirk Settlers. Donald's father was buried in Hudson's Bay with > nine of the men who were killed in the Battle of Seven Oaks in 1816. In the > spring of 1820 a party of Selkirk settlers determined to abandon the > settlement and set out for what was then known as Canada. The party > consisted of about 30 whilte people including Doand Mackay and his family. > There was also his grandmother, Elizabeth Matheson; his uncles Roderick and > Robert Mackay; James Sutherland, his wife, their son James and daughter > Elizabeth; John Bannerman, his wife and two sons, Alexander and John; > Alexander Mackay, Adam Mackay and their widowed mother; George Ross, his > wife and son Benjamin; Alexander Murray and his son Alexander and James > Sutherland, a church leader in Kildonan. Eventually after much trecking > Donald Mackay and his family settled at West Gwillimbury, Simcoe county. > John Mackay later married Christina Sutherland, a child of the Kildonan > settlement. In 1870 they moved to Toronto where John Mackay died on 2nd > December 1908. "Robertson's Landmarks of Toronto, The Selkirk Settlement". > (6/01) > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rena Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:57 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Auld Kirk Burials > Hi, > The "Scotch Settlement" at Bradford, Ontario, Canada, attracted a number > of Sutherland natives who left Scotland during and following the > Clearances. Many of their descendants thoughtfully noted their > birth-places on their tombstones. Perhaps this information will help > others make connections to these families. Can anyone add any > information to these names? > SUTHERLAND, DONALD, died Nov. 22, 1885, Aged 92 yr., 11 mo,, 12 d., > Native of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. (My gg-grandfather). > Plot: R4P1 1/4 > SUTHERLAND, HENRY, died May 2, 1859, aged 72 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P1 2/4 > SUTHERLAND, ELIZABETH, died Feb. 19, 1841, aged 90 yr. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P1 3/4. > SUTHERLAND, ANGUS, died Mar 24, 1885, aged 103 yr. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. > ELSBY, wife of the above, died July 2, 1959, aged 72 yr. Plot: R4P1 4/4 > GUNN, WILLIAM, died Oct. 24, 1854, aged 60 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P2 1/2 > McBETH, CHARLES, died Nov. 22, 1883, aged 85 yr., > CHRISTENA, wife of the above, died July 29, 1885, aged 83 yr., Natives of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P3 1/2 > McBEATH, JANET, wife of ANDREW McBEATH, died July 26, 1838, aged 43 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P4 1/3 > McBEATH, ANDREW, died Feb. 28, 1864, aged 69 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P4 3/3 > McKAY, RODERICK, died Oct. 19, 1867, aged 68 yr., 10 mo. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 1/3. > McKAY, ISABELLA, wife of GEORGE McKAY, died Feb. 18, 1851, aged 95 yr. > Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 2/3 > McKAY, ROBERT, died May 30, 1856, in his 54th yr., Native of Co. > Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 3/3 > FRASER, WILLIAM, died May 11, 1885, aged 86 yr., 7 mo., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P7 2/4 > FRASER, SIMON, died May 4, 1881, aged 76 yr., 10 mo. > SUTHERLAND, BETSY, wife of the above, died Oct. 20, 1874, aged 66 yr., 5 > mo., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P8 1/2 > McKAY, ALEXANDER, died July 13, 1873, aged 72 yr., 2 mo., 13 d., Native > of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P1 > GUNN, JANET, wife of DONALD GUNN, died Sep. 15, 1828, aged 68 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Erected by her son GEORGE. Plot: > R5P3 2/4 > McBETH, WILLIAM, died Aug. 3, 1830, aged 40 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P3 4/4 > BANNERMAN, CHRISTINA, wife of GEORGE BANNERMAN, died Dec. 17, 1875, aged > 86 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 2/3 > BANNERMAN, GEORGE, died Feb. 10, 1859, aged 66 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 3/3. > McKAY, DONALD, died Mar. 21, 1847, aged 59 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 1/ 4. > McKAY, CATHERINE BRUCE, wife of the late DONALD McKAY, died Jun 24, 1872, > aged 94 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 4/4. > McKAY, JAMES, died Apr. 5, 1879, aged 85 yr., 10 mo., Native of Parish > of Kildonald (perhaps, Kildonan??), Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: > R10P1 4/5 > McKAY, CHRISTIANA, wife of JAMES McKAY, died Dec. 21, 1866, aged 70 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 5/5 > FRASER, WILLIAM, died Dec. 10, 1855, aged 53 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P2 1/6 > GUNN, HANNAH McBEATH, wife of ALEXANDER GUNN, died Mar. 24, 1830, aged 45 > yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 3/6 > GUNN, ALEXANDER, died Mar. 23, 1839, aged 70 yr., Native of of the > Parish of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 4/6 > SUTHERLAND, JOHN, died Apr. 13, 1877, aged 68 yr., A Native of Strath of > Kildonan, Scotland. > Rena > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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Jane (Jean) Calder, born 17 November 1874 in Creich parish daughter of Alexander Calder and Catherine Murray. Died 1908 Kentucky, USA. Anyone know anything about this lady? Did she marry? Anything? She had a brother Donald Calder who is also known to have emigrated to the States. Could they have both settled in the area of Kentucky? Can anyone advise how to go about searching for them? Many thanks Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01
Hi Christine, You're bang on in your identification of Donald MacKay and Catherine Bruce! I can add another child: George McKay was born 16 Aug. 1822. George married Frances Sutherland, 8 Jul 1847. (Frances was my g-grandfather's sister. She was born 29 May 1830, in Simcoe County.) They had 13 children, several of whom are buried with Catherine Bruce and Donald McKay. George died 15 May 1902 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Frances died in 1907. The Roderick McKay Barbara Campbell connection, I fear, is a miss. This Roderick McKay appears to have been a child of George McKay and Isabella Matheson. The family came to the Red River in 1815, along with son Robert and daughter Roberta. According to the IGI, Roderick was born 7 Jan 1797. Roberta was born 18 Jan 1800 and Robert was born 20 Apr 1803. All births were in Kildonan. Their names appear on the Hadlow passenger list immediately before those of Donald McKay's family, suggesting a connection. The Bio for Donald seems a bit confused to me. I could unscramble the difficulties by guessing that Donald's parents were Isabella Matheson and George McKay. George, then, must have been buried in or near Winnipeg, Manitoba (not Hudson's Bay). The Seven Oaks massacre occurred near the Red River settlement, present-day Winnipeg. Does this agree with the information you have for Donald's father? Let me tidy this up. 1: George McKay and Isabella Matheson. 2: Donald McKay and Catherine Bruce 3: John McKay and Christina Sutherland 3: George McKay and Frances Sutherland 2: Roderick McKay and Jane McConkey 2: Roberta McKay 2: Robert McKay Since beginning this conjecture, I have found the original source of the Bio it is from a Feb 7, 1908 article (my type-script is marked "Free Press") about John McKay. Here are the salient bits: "A memorable walk is still clear to his mind, when his father, Donald Mackay, took him across the fields and showed him the grave of his grandfather, who was buried close to nine of the men who had been killed in 1816 at the battle of Seven Oaks." (There actually were 21 men killed at the battle.) "In the spring of 1820 a party of the Selkirk settlers determined to abandon the settlement and set out for what was then known as Canada. The party consisted of about 30 white people, including Donald Mackay and his family. The boy, John Mackay, was then six years of age, and now, 88 years afterwards, the following names of members of that party are still clear in his mind. His grandmother, Elizabeth (sic) Matheson Mackay, his uncles, Robert and Roderick Mackay ..." By Jove, I think I've got it! Since there is a 12-year gap between Donald and Roderick, we're probably missing three (or more) children of Isabella Matheson and George McKay. Isabella, Roderick, wife, Jane McConkey, and Robert are buried together at the Auld Kirk. Regards, Rena >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 7/1/2001, 4:58:08 PM, "Christine Stokes" <chris@northants26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote regarding RE: Auld Kirk Burials: > Rena > Could these two be those on your list? > K1521 RODERICK MACKAY married MARGARET CAMPBELL > Roderick in Birichen, Dornoch, and Margaret in Rearchar, Dornoch, married in > Dornoch on 27 February 1824 (OPR). They had the following children born in > Asdale, Dornoch, except their first child, Janet, who was born at Rearchar > (OPR): JANET, born 20 September 1825; ROBERT, born 2 March 1827 [died 4 May > 1828 Asdale] (OPR); FINLAY, born 16 March 1829 [died 2 March 1851 Asdale - > consumption] (OPR); JOHN, born 23 November 1830 [died 28 March 1851 Asdale - > fever] (OPR); JEAN, born 1 December 1832 and RODERICK, born circa 1833 [died > 22 January 1835 Asdale - smallpox] (OPR). (5/00) > K481/1 DONALD MACKAY married CATHERINE BRUCE > In January 1814 Donald and Catherine had a son: JOHN, born in Kildonan. In > June 1815 they sailed on the ship "Hadlow" from Cromarty for Hudson's Bay, > Canada as Selkirk Settlers. Donald's father was buried in Hudson's Bay with > nine of the men who were killed in the Battle of Seven Oaks in 1816. In the > spring of 1820 a party of Selkirk settlers determined to abandon the > settlement and set out for what was then known as Canada. The party > consisted of about 30 whilte people including Doand Mackay and his family. > There was also his grandmother, Elizabeth Matheson; his uncles Roderick and > Robert Mackay; James Sutherland, his wife, their son James and daughter > Elizabeth; John Bannerman, his wife and two sons, Alexander and John; > Alexander Mackay, Adam Mackay and their widowed mother; George Ross, his > wife and son Benjamin; Alexander Murray and his son Alexander and James > Sutherland, a church leader in Kildonan. Eventually after much trecking > Donald Mackay and his family settled at West Gwillimbury, Simcoe county. > John Mackay later married Christina Sutherland, a child of the Kildonan > settlement. In 1870 they moved to Toronto where John Mackay died on 2nd > December 1908. "Robertson's Landmarks of Toronto, The Selkirk Settlement". > (6/01) > Christine > Highland Hearts > http://www.highlandhearts.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rena Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:57 PM > To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Auld Kirk Burials > Hi, > The "Scotch Settlement" at Bradford, Ontario, Canada, attracted a number > of Sutherland natives who left Scotland during and following the > Clearances. Many of their descendants thoughtfully noted their > birth-places on their tombstones. Perhaps this information will help > others make connections to these families. Can anyone add any > information to these names? > SUTHERLAND, DONALD, died Nov. 22, 1885, Aged 92 yr., 11 mo,, 12 d., > Native of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. (My gg-grandfather). > Plot: R4P1 1/4 > SUTHERLAND, HENRY, died May 2, 1859, aged 72 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P1 2/4 > SUTHERLAND, ELIZABETH, died Feb. 19, 1841, aged 90 yr. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P1 3/4. > SUTHERLAND, ANGUS, died Mar 24, 1885, aged 103 yr. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. > ELSBY, wife of the above, died July 2, 1959, aged 72 yr. Plot: R4P1 4/4 > GUNN, WILLIAM, died Oct. 24, 1854, aged 60 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P2 1/2 > McBETH, CHARLES, died Nov. 22, 1883, aged 85 yr., > CHRISTENA, wife of the above, died July 29, 1885, aged 83 yr., Natives of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P3 1/2 > McBEATH, JANET, wife of ANDREW McBEATH, died July 26, 1838, aged 43 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P4 1/3 > McBEATH, ANDREW, died Feb. 28, 1864, aged 69 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P4 3/3 > McKAY, RODERICK, died Oct. 19, 1867, aged 68 yr., 10 mo. Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 1/3. > McKAY, ISABELLA, wife of GEORGE McKAY, died Feb. 18, 1851, aged 95 yr. > Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 2/3 > McKAY, ROBERT, died May 30, 1856, in his 54th yr., Native of Co. > Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 3/3 > FRASER, WILLIAM, died May 11, 1885, aged 86 yr., 7 mo., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P7 2/4 > FRASER, SIMON, died May 4, 1881, aged 76 yr., 10 mo. > SUTHERLAND, BETSY, wife of the above, died Oct. 20, 1874, aged 66 yr., 5 > mo., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P8 1/2 > McKAY, ALEXANDER, died July 13, 1873, aged 72 yr., 2 mo., 13 d., Native > of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P1 > GUNN, JANET, wife of DONALD GUNN, died Sep. 15, 1828, aged 68 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Erected by her son GEORGE. Plot: > R5P3 2/4 > McBETH, WILLIAM, died Aug. 3, 1830, aged 40 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P3 4/4 > BANNERMAN, CHRISTINA, wife of GEORGE BANNERMAN, died Dec. 17, 1875, aged > 86 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 2/3 > BANNERMAN, GEORGE, died Feb. 10, 1859, aged 66 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 3/3. > McKAY, DONALD, died Mar. 21, 1847, aged 59 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 1/ 4. > McKAY, CATHERINE BRUCE, wife of the late DONALD McKAY, died Jun 24, 1872, > aged 94 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 4/4. > McKAY, JAMES, died Apr. 5, 1879, aged 85 yr., 10 mo., Native of Parish > of Kildonald (perhaps, Kildonan??), Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: > R10P1 4/5 > McKAY, CHRISTIANA, wife of JAMES McKAY, died Dec. 21, 1866, aged 70 yr., > Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 5/5 > FRASER, WILLIAM, died Dec. 10, 1855, aged 53 yr., Native of > Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P2 1/6 > GUNN, HANNAH McBEATH, wife of ALEXANDER GUNN, died Mar. 24, 1830, aged 45 > yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 3/6 > GUNN, ALEXANDER, died Mar. 23, 1839, aged 70 yr., Native of of the > Parish of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 4/6 > SUTHERLAND, JOHN, died Apr. 13, 1877, aged 68 yr., A Native of Strath of > Kildonan, Scotland. > Rena > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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Rena Could these two be those on your list? K1521 RODERICK MACKAY married MARGARET CAMPBELL Roderick in Birichen, Dornoch, and Margaret in Rearchar, Dornoch, married in Dornoch on 27 February 1824 (OPR). They had the following children born in Asdale, Dornoch, except their first child, Janet, who was born at Rearchar (OPR): JANET, born 20 September 1825; ROBERT, born 2 March 1827 [died 4 May 1828 Asdale] (OPR); FINLAY, born 16 March 1829 [died 2 March 1851 Asdale - consumption] (OPR); JOHN, born 23 November 1830 [died 28 March 1851 Asdale - fever] (OPR); JEAN, born 1 December 1832 and RODERICK, born circa 1833 [died 22 January 1835 Asdale - smallpox] (OPR). (5/00) K481/1 DONALD MACKAY married CATHERINE BRUCE In January 1814 Donald and Catherine had a son: JOHN, born in Kildonan. In June 1815 they sailed on the ship "Hadlow" from Cromarty for Hudson's Bay, Canada as Selkirk Settlers. Donald's father was buried in Hudson's Bay with nine of the men who were killed in the Battle of Seven Oaks in 1816. In the spring of 1820 a party of Selkirk settlers determined to abandon the settlement and set out for what was then known as Canada. The party consisted of about 30 whilte people including Doand Mackay and his family. There was also his grandmother, Elizabeth Matheson; his uncles Roderick and Robert Mackay; James Sutherland, his wife, their son James and daughter Elizabeth; John Bannerman, his wife and two sons, Alexander and John; Alexander Mackay, Adam Mackay and their widowed mother; George Ross, his wife and son Benjamin; Alexander Murray and his son Alexander and James Sutherland, a church leader in Kildonan. Eventually after much trecking Donald Mackay and his family settled at West Gwillimbury, Simcoe county. John Mackay later married Christina Sutherland, a child of the Kildonan settlement. In 1870 they moved to Toronto where John Mackay died on 2nd December 1908. "Robertson's Landmarks of Toronto, The Selkirk Settlement". (6/01) Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Rena Singleton [mailto:rena@pathtech.org] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:57 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Auld Kirk Burials Hi, The "Scotch Settlement" at Bradford, Ontario, Canada, attracted a number of Sutherland natives who left Scotland during and following the Clearances. Many of their descendants thoughtfully noted their birth-places on their tombstones. Perhaps this information will help others make connections to these families. Can anyone add any information to these names? SUTHERLAND, DONALD, died Nov. 22, 1885, Aged 92 yr., 11 mo,, 12 d., Native of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. (My gg-grandfather). Plot: R4P1 1/4 SUTHERLAND, HENRY, died May 2, 1859, aged 72 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P1 2/4 SUTHERLAND, ELIZABETH, died Feb. 19, 1841, aged 90 yr. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P1 3/4. SUTHERLAND, ANGUS, died Mar 24, 1885, aged 103 yr. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. ELSBY, wife of the above, died July 2, 1959, aged 72 yr. Plot: R4P1 4/4 GUNN, WILLIAM, died Oct. 24, 1854, aged 60 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P2 1/2 McBETH, CHARLES, died Nov. 22, 1883, aged 85 yr., CHRISTENA, wife of the above, died July 29, 1885, aged 83 yr., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P3 1/2 McBEATH, JANET, wife of ANDREW McBEATH, died July 26, 1838, aged 43 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P4 1/3 McBEATH, ANDREW, died Feb. 28, 1864, aged 69 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P4 3/3 McKAY, RODERICK, died Oct. 19, 1867, aged 68 yr., 10 mo. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 1/3. McKAY, ISABELLA, wife of GEORGE McKAY, died Feb. 18, 1851, aged 95 yr. Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 2/3 McKAY, ROBERT, died May 30, 1856, in his 54th yr., Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 3/3 FRASER, WILLIAM, died May 11, 1885, aged 86 yr., 7 mo., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P7 2/4 FRASER, SIMON, died May 4, 1881, aged 76 yr., 10 mo. SUTHERLAND, BETSY, wife of the above, died Oct. 20, 1874, aged 66 yr., 5 mo., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P8 1/2 McKAY, ALEXANDER, died July 13, 1873, aged 72 yr., 2 mo., 13 d., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P1 GUNN, JANET, wife of DONALD GUNN, died Sep. 15, 1828, aged 68 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Erected by her son GEORGE. Plot: R5P3 2/4 McBETH, WILLIAM, died Aug. 3, 1830, aged 40 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P3 4/4 BANNERMAN, CHRISTINA, wife of GEORGE BANNERMAN, died Dec. 17, 1875, aged 86 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 2/3 BANNERMAN, GEORGE, died Feb. 10, 1859, aged 66 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 3/3. McKAY, DONALD, died Mar. 21, 1847, aged 59 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 1/ 4. McKAY, CATHERINE BRUCE, wife of the late DONALD McKAY, died Jun 24, 1872, aged 94 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 4/4. McKAY, JAMES, died Apr. 5, 1879, aged 85 yr., 10 mo., Native of Parish of Kildonald (perhaps, Kildonan??), Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 4/5 McKAY, CHRISTIANA, wife of JAMES McKAY, died Dec. 21, 1866, aged 70 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 5/5 FRASER, WILLIAM, died Dec. 10, 1855, aged 53 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P2 1/6 GUNN, HANNAH McBEATH, wife of ALEXANDER GUNN, died Mar. 24, 1830, aged 45 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 3/6 GUNN, ALEXANDER, died Mar. 23, 1839, aged 70 yr., Native of of the Parish of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 4/6 SUTHERLAND, JOHN, died Apr. 13, 1877, aged 68 yr., A Native of Strath of Kildonan, Scotland. 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Fiona, I would be more than happy to contribute the little I have. What specific details would you like? Presumably only details of the people born there and the next generation? Are you researching for a thesis, or for a local history publication? Also from your knowledge of the area, can I ask if you (or any other listers) know where "CEANSALIC" in Eddrachillis is??. It appears in a 1783 marriage entry in the Durness registers. Peter Grant London (ex NZ) -----Original Message----- From: Fiona [mailto:fiona@balchrick.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 01 July 2001 11:45 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Sandwood, Sutherland Hello everyone. As a newcomer to your site, I am absolutely fascinated and wonder if anyone can help me. I am researching the crofting community of the Sandwood estate (Eddrachillis parish) in NW Sutherland from about 1700 to the present day. The current estate comprises the hamlets of Oldshoremore, Oldshorebeg, Drumnaguie, Blairmore, Polin, Balchrick, Droman & Shegra. Kinlochbervie is to the south and Cape Wrath 12 miles north, past Sandwood Bay. I know that ships sailed from Loch Laxford - the Ellen in 1815, Lady Emily 1842, George 1843 & the Ellen 1848, also the Sirius which may have had emigrants from this area aboard. Has anyone found ancestors from the area and would be willing to share them with me? I would really appreciate any information. Many thanks Fiona ______________________________
The wizard of Oz?? and the little people? I think you'll find that's what it is Kate At 12:32 01/07/01 +0100, Sara Thomas wrote: >Iain, >I wonder if you had a reply to this query? I've no familiarity with >Gaelic endearments, having learnt the little I know rather late in >life. >Something spelt 'motch' would be spelt 'moit' or 'moid' with no accent >in Gaelic --- I take it 'motch' had a short 'o' as in 'scotch'? If >long, the 'o' would have a grave accent on it. It could be the >vocative of 'mod' or 'mot' but then the 'm' would turn to a 'v' sound, >spelt 'mh' ! I remember 'brog' - 'shoe' with a long 'o', vocative 'a' >bhroig!' = 'O shoe!' from the grammar books! Here the 'b' has become >'bh' pronounced 'v'. Anyway, no suitable word suggested itself. >Much more likely to me, but less satisfactory to you, perhaps, is that >it's a Scots word. I know one's naturally tempted to think of >'munchkins', but there *is* a Scots word 'motch' to nibble daintily', >so there could be a mouse endearment connection here. >Let me know if you learn anything > >Sara > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Iain Sutherland" <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> >To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:10 PM >Subject: Gaelic?? > > >> My Mum (who was of good Highland stock ) always called my >Brothers,sister and myself and I,ll type this as she pronounced it >"Motch" or Motchkins" as a term of endearment or an announcement >before a discussion as in " now then Motch" any ideas on it,s meaning >? Iain >> >> >> ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >> You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. >You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ >> >> ============================== >> Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >> Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >> >> > > >==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== >You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > Kate and David Ferris kate@globalnet.co.uk
Hi, The "Scotch Settlement" at Bradford, Ontario, Canada, attracted a number of Sutherland natives who left Scotland during and following the Clearances. Many of their descendants thoughtfully noted their birth-places on their tombstones. Perhaps this information will help others make connections to these families. Can anyone add any information to these names? SUTHERLAND, DONALD, died Nov. 22, 1885, Aged 92 yr., 11 mo,, 12 d., Native of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. (My gg-grandfather). Plot: R4P1 1/4 SUTHERLAND, HENRY, died May 2, 1859, aged 72 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P1 2/4 SUTHERLAND, ELIZABETH, died Feb. 19, 1841, aged 90 yr. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P1 3/4. SUTHERLAND, ANGUS, died Mar 24, 1885, aged 103 yr. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. ELSBY, wife of the above, died July 2, 1959, aged 72 yr. Plot: R4P1 4/4 GUNN, WILLIAM, died Oct. 24, 1854, aged 60 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P2 1/2 McBETH, CHARLES, died Nov. 22, 1883, aged 85 yr., CHRISTENA, wife of the above, died July 29, 1885, aged 83 yr., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P3 1/2 McBEATH, JANET, wife of ANDREW McBEATH, died July 26, 1838, aged 43 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P4 1/3 McBEATH, ANDREW, died Feb. 28, 1864, aged 69 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P4 3/3 McKAY, RODERICK, died Oct. 19, 1867, aged 68 yr., 10 mo. Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 1/3. McKAY, ISABELLA, wife of GEORGE McKAY, died Feb. 18, 1851, aged 95 yr. Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 2/3 McKAY, ROBERT, died May 30, 1856, in his 54th yr., Native of Co. Sutherland, Scotland. Plot: R4P6 3/3 FRASER, WILLIAM, died May 11, 1885, aged 86 yr., 7 mo., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R4P7 2/4 FRASER, SIMON, died May 4, 1881, aged 76 yr., 10 mo. SUTHERLAND, BETSY, wife of the above, died Oct. 20, 1874, aged 66 yr., 5 mo., Natives of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot R4P8 ½ McKAY, ALEXANDER, died July 13, 1873, aged 72 yr., 2 mo., 13 d., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P1 GUNN, JANET, wife of DONALD GUNN, died Sep. 15, 1828, aged 68 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Erected by her son GEORGE. Plot: R5P3 2/4 McBETH, WILLIAM, died Aug. 3, 1830, aged 40 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R5P3 4/4 BANNERMAN, CHRISTINA, wife of GEORGE BANNERMAN, died Dec. 17, 1875, aged 86 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 2/3 BANNERMAN, GEORGE, died Feb. 10, 1859, aged 66 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R6P6 3/3. McKAY, DONALD, died Mar. 21, 1847, aged 59 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 1/ 4. McKAY, CATHERINE BRUCE, wife of the late DONALD McKAY, died Jun 24, 1872, aged 94 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R7P4 4/4. McKAY, JAMES, died Apr. 5, 1879, aged 85 yr., 10 mo., Native of Parish of Kildonald (perhaps, Kildonan??), Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 4/5 McKAY, CHRISTIANA, wife of JAMES McKAY, died Dec. 21, 1866, aged 70 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P1 5/5 FRASER, WILLIAM, died Dec. 10, 1855, aged 53 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. Plot: R10P2 1/6 GUNN, HANNAH McBEATH, wife of ALEXANDER GUNN, died Mar. 24, 1830, aged 45 yr., Native of Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 3/6 GUNN, ALEXANDER, died Mar. 23, 1839, aged 70 yr., Native of of the Parish of Kildonan, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. R10P2 4/6 SUTHERLAND, JOHN, died Apr. 13, 1877, aged 68 yr., A Native of Strath of Kildonan, Scotland. Rena
Iain, I wonder if you had a reply to this query? I've no familiarity with Gaelic endearments, having learnt the little I know rather late in life. Something spelt 'motch' would be spelt 'moit' or 'moid' with no accent in Gaelic --- I take it 'motch' had a short 'o' as in 'scotch'? If long, the 'o' would have a grave accent on it. It could be the vocative of 'mod' or 'mot' but then the 'm' would turn to a 'v' sound, spelt 'mh' ! I remember 'brog' - 'shoe' with a long 'o', vocative 'a' bhroig!' = 'O shoe!' from the grammar books! Here the 'b' has become 'bh' pronounced 'v'. Anyway, no suitable word suggested itself. Much more likely to me, but less satisfactory to you, perhaps, is that it's a Scots word. I know one's naturally tempted to think of 'munchkins', but there *is* a Scots word 'motch' to nibble daintily', so there could be a mouse endearment connection here. Let me know if you learn anything Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Sutherland" <iain_sutherland@totalise.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Gaelic?? > My Mum (who was of good Highland stock ) always called my Brothers,sister and myself and I,ll type this as she pronounced it "Motch" or Motchkins" as a term of endearment or an announcement before a discussion as in " now then Motch" any ideas on it,s meaning ? Iain > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >
Hello everyone. As a newcomer to your site, I am absolutely fascinated and wonder if anyone can help me. I am researching the crofting community of the Sandwood estate (Eddrachillis parish) in NW Sutherland from about 1700 to the present day. The current estate comprises the hamlets of Oldshoremore, Oldshorebeg, Drumnaguie, Blairmore, Polin, Balchrick, Droman & Shegra. Kinlochbervie is to the south and Cape Wrath 12 miles north, past Sandwood Bay. I know that ships sailed from Loch Laxford - the Ellen in 1815, Lady Emily 1842, George 1843 & the Ellen 1848, also the Sirius which may have had emigrants from this area aboard. Has anyone found ancestors from the area and would be willing to share them with me? I would really appreciate any information. Many thanks Fiona
Hi Iain, I have just come back from holiday and discovered your e-mail about your clan. As I may have mentioned before I'm not sure if we are linked but in your last message I would like to know more about your NEIL MCBEATH, father of JAMES. I have a NEIL MCBEATH, born 1817 in Dingwall, Ross & Cromarty son of THOMAS MCBEATH & JANET MATHESON of Kildonan I have been unable to trace a marriage or death so far for Neil, he certainly does not appear with his parents in the 1841 census. Hope you can help Carole McBeath Iain wrote: My Great Grandfather was James McBeath born in 1845 the son of Neil McBeath. In 1871 James married Christina Sutherland the daughter of William Sutherland and Christina Sutherland m.s.Murray At Knockarthur on 08/09/1871. Christina died in 1874 and in 1879 on31/7 he married Margaret Sutherland the daughter of Alexander Sutherland and Christina Sutherland m.s. Grant. They had 2 children Neil 1881 and Margaret 1882. Margaret the wife died in 1916 and her death cert. at Inchomney Rogart and her Death cert. names parents William Sutherland and Christina m.s. Murray (the same as Christina wife no1) Our family seem to think that they were sisters? but the 3 certs. show different James details seem to tie in on each occasion. The 1881 census shows James at Achnaggarin with Margaret and son Neil and margarets aunts Janet and Christina Grant . Meanwhile at Loth ther was another James McBeath married to Catherine Reid my Maternal Grannies Auntie Help Iain
Hi Zelda Great to hear from someone from my home town of Dunedin, New Zealand!! I lived my first 25 years in Dunedin until 1990 when I finished university and went to my first law job up in Wellington. Was raised in Doon St, Waverley, Dunedin. Dad, Fergus Grant, died at 48 and 8 years later Mum married Tom O'Connell (one of the O'Connells from Macraes) who died 4 yrs later. Mum is now living in "pensioner-ville" (as my sister and I call it!!) in St Kilda, Dunedin. Where are you living? Down to business!! I have not seen any mention of Corbets in Eddrachillis before 1783, but this does not mean to say I have looked very hard. As you probably know, there is a dearth of records. Nonetheless, here are a few interesting notes: Durness Marriage Registers (published by Scottish Record Society): 18 Dec 1783 John CORBET in Ceansalic, Eddrachillis and Marion Mackay alias nin Dhonilvoy herdman in Shinniss. National Library of Scotland - Gordon-Cumming Papers General Deposit 175 6 Oct 1731 General Service of Jean Bayne, wife of Donald Mackay in Kilestrom of Eddrachillis as heir portioner of provision to the deceased Alexander Corbat sometime of Arboll her grandfather on her mothers side (Jean being only child procreate between Alexander Bayne farm servant at Mill of Inch and Margaret Corbat daughter procreat between the said Alexander Corbat and his wife Elizabeth Bayne). Next entry allows the following to be re-constructed: Alex Corbat = Elizabeth Bayne / Christian Corbat = Colin Mackenzie of Saunachan / Roderick Mackenzie of Saunachan (eldest lawful son) / Christian Mackenzie (heir as well as Jean Bayne above) = Alexander Mackenzie in Blairnibie in Strathconnon. Also found an Eddrachillis Corbet in the discharge records of the Chelsea Pensioners at PRO Kew: WO97/1113: Private Donald Corbet b parish of Adrogha (sic - Eddrachillis) in or near the town of Caithness in the county of Sutherland; enlisted in First Royal Regiment of Veterans at Naas in county of Kildare on 25 Dec 1821 age 36 for unlimited service. Prior Service in 93rd Foot 13 years 238 days and then First Veteran Battn 4 yrs 21 days. Total service 18 yrs+. Discharged 8 Apr 1826 in consequence of disbandment .Conduct good . signed x. Aged about 40 years, 57, brown hair, blue eyes, fair complexion, by trade a labourer. Discharge given under seal at Athlone this 24 Apr 1826. Family: wife and 2 children. Future residence Castletown, Co. Cork. And his first discharge records WO97/1015: Stamped at Royal Hospital, Kilmainham 28 Nov 1821 This is to certify that Private Donald Corbet born in the parish of Addrachilis in or near the town of Dornoch in the county of Sutherland enlisted in this Regiment at Addrachilis in Sutherland 16 Mar 1808 at age 21 for limited service. Service: 93rd Highlanders 16 Mar 1808 8 Nov 1821 = 13 yrs 238 days. That by the authority of the Adjutant Generals circular letter dated at Dublin 27 Aug 1821 he is hereby discharged in consequence of being supernumary to the establishment. Badly wounded at New Orleans 8 Jan 1815 by a grape shot which lodged in his right thigh and was extracted. Conduct has been but indifferent but from his having been seriously wounded before (-) on 8 Jan 1815. I beg leave to recommend him. Signed x his mark. 35 years of age, 56, brown hair, grey eyes, fresh complexion, labourer. Given under my hand at Ennis this 8 Nov 1821 It is very annoying that the parish registers don't start until about 1809/10 or so - just after the time that Alexandrina/Alexina/Lexy Corbet was born at Oldshoremore. The Oldshoremore Corbets appeared to be a fairly tight-knit bunch in any event; I recollect there were only a few families of Corbets from 1809/10? and they were either at Oldshoremore or Oldshorebeg. They must all be the same bunch - perhaps John Corbet/Marion Mackay (mentioned above were the progenitors???) I note you have a Murdoch and an Alexandrina in your family - they are Oldshoremore Corbet names. Alexandrina Corbet (Morag's ancestor) was born Oldshoremore c1808, married Neil Matheson at Eddrachillis 1833, and had John, Elizabeth, Hugh, Dolina and Neil (plus possibly some others - Neil Matheson Sr was a journeyman mason so the kids were born from Eddrachillis to various places in Caithness to Stornoway (Morag's ancestor Neil in 1852). Do you have any references to Corbets from records etc? I might be able to dig out my extracts of Corbets from the Eddrachillis OPRs if you do not have them already? Look forward to hearing from you. Peter Grant London UK -----Original Message----- From: George Matheson [mailto:DORNOCH@XTRA.CO.NZ] Sent: 21 June 2001 02:28 To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New lister interests- Matheson-Corbett family Hi Peter Great to see your name appear on this list - sometime ago I found a message of yrs when you still lived in NZ - old address was a chartered accountant address - but by that time you had taken flight to parts overseas so am anxious to see if your family might have a link to mine My mother in law - Mina Matheson came from Edinburgh but had family connectons in Oldsmoreshore Her mother was Williamina (Mina) Corbert and she married James Munro and they lived at Achlyness overlooking Loch Inchard - incidentally the house is still there in Achlyness. Willamina's parents were John Corbett and Betty (Betsy) Paterson married at Fodderty on 23 December 1830 Believe their childlren to be: John, Elizabeth, Alexandrina, Ann, Isabella, Williamina and Murdoch. My Alexandrina born 10 February 1844. It would be great to hear from you - any info gratefully received Regards Zelda Matheson, Dunedin, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Morag Godfrey-Grant & Peter Grant <morag&peter@godfrey-grant.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: New lister interests > Hi I'm a new lister, Peter Grant of London UK (on working holiday from New > Zealand). Was around on various Rootsweb lists last year before leaving for > a 7 month holiday. Started the holiday with the delightful experience of > taking my wife's NZ-resident Scottish-born mother back to Nairn for the > first time since she emigrated with her parents as a 16 yr old 40 years ago! > It was great. Spent a week or so in Sutherland, and that part of the west > coast of the Highlands is one place that really reminds me of the part of NZ > I'm from. We just love the Assynt area. > Interests: > MATHESON Hugh b abt 1780 Shinness, Lairg, SUT, d 1817 Eadar a'Chalda, > Assynt, ground officer for the Sutherland Estate at the time of the > evictions (!), m Janet McBEATH (b 1784 Wick, d 1857 Torbreck, Assynt). > Children: Neil MATHESON (in Eddrachillis then Stornoway), William MATHESON > (in Scourie), Donald MATHESON (in Torbreck, Assynt), George MATHESON > (unknown) and Hughina MATHESON (m Lachlan MACDONALD, Lochinver, Assynt). > CORBETT Alexandrina (Lexy) b abt 1808 Oldshoremore, Eddrachillis, SUT. > TAYLOR in Kinbrace, Kildonan, SUT 1860s onwards. > GRANT in Grimachary, Kildonan, SUT 1780s onwards. > Look forward to hearing from anyone with interests in these areas. > > Peter Grant > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. 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Well Isabella, I had no idea you were so gifted. I love the ode to George Mackay - made me laugh for ages. If I was a poet I would respond similarily but I just came back in from being at a wedding and brain is not in gear!! Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Isabella McGregor [mailto:isabella@mcgregori.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:40 PM To: SCT-SUTHERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Mackay An Ode to Old Uncle George. With heartfelt thanks to Christine. Without Christine's help my long lost relatives would still be --- long lost. I was searching for old uncle George I knew not where he'd gone Some said he moved to Glasgow With a girl from Cambuslang. I searched the Glasgow records Until my head was birling And finally discovered He had wed the girl in Stirling. I found he had some daughters And his daughter Jean got wed She was betrothed in Cambuslang But her father now was dead. So now to the death register It's going to take me ages I gaily type in George Mackay And up came forty pages. (it felt like that anyway) Try this one here, and that one there, It's taking all my time And always with the same result The George just wasn't mine. By now I'm tearing out my hair I'm almost in hysteria When Christine finds this info.--- He had died out in Nigeria. Many thanks Christine, Isabella. ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== You may, at times, wish to check out previous messages to this list. You can do this at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01
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An Ode to Old Uncle George. With heartfelt thanks to Christine. Without Christine's help my long lost relatives would still be --- long lost. I was searching for old uncle George I knew not where he'd gone Some said he moved to Glasgow With a girl from Cambuslang. I searched the Glasgow records Until my head was birling And finally discovered He had wed the girl in Stirling. I found he had some daughters And his daughter Jean got wed She was betrothed in Cambuslang But her father now was dead. So now to the death register It's going to take me ages I gaily type in George Mackay And up came forty pages. (it felt like that anyway) Try this one here, and that one there, It's taking all my time And always with the same result The George just wasn't mine. By now I'm tearing out my hair I'm almost in hysteria When Christine finds this info.--- He had died out in Nigeria. Many thanks Christine, Isabella.
Hi list Back from Edinburgh where we spent a fascinating day plodding through old copies of the Northern Times in my bid to clear up the mystery of Sir John. While away Jim refers to a message from Cathy Wagner on the subject of another Major McDonald I do not seem to have that message. The archive seems to be down. Help! Someone forward me a copy please, please. Thanks Christine Highland Hearts http://www.highlandhearts.com/ <http://www.highlandhearts.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 5/17/01
I have recieved my Golspie Story and am thrilled. Off for some R&R in Tonga tomorrow so will open it then and expect a great read. Thank you Christine Lizzi
I hate to mention it but I have just received a message purporting to come from Jim Gibson which is 53kb long and has an "exe" attachment. Jim, could you check for virus ? Thanks, Ian
Hi Christine, Many thanks for your message 26 June. I'm very grateful for all your efforts trying to sort out my Sutherland forebears. As Cathy said, "What a girl eh!!" Sorry I missed out the dates. Here they are :- My g.grandparents were Hugh GIBSON b 7.12.1829 at Evelix, Dornoch, d 14.3.1911 at Golspie and Margaret McDONALD b 1.11.1825 at Knockarthur, Rogart, d 21.12.1906 at Golspie. They were married 19.12.1852 at the Free Church Manse,Rogart. (by the way they were both buried at Dornoch Cemetery, not Golspie. I have visited their grave.) Hugh's father was Thomas GIBSON b c1775 somewhere in Sutherland, d 27.8.1841 at Camore, Dornoch. His mother was Isabella McKAY b c1793 in Dornoch, d 4.10.1873 at Camore. Thomas and Isabella were married 8 July 1820 at Dornoch. I don't know where they were buried. Margaret's father was Alexander McDONALD b c1797 at Rogart, d 10.9.1871 at Knockarthur. Her mother was Elizabeth (Betsy,Betty) McKAY bap 29.5.1804 at Proncy, Dornoch, d 4.7.1866 at Knockarthur. I don't know when and where they married or where they were buried. Alexander was a younger brother of Sergt James McDONALD, who you mentioned as being married to Barbara McKAY from Golspie. Alexander and James were sons of Norman McDONALD and Janet GUNN, who were married in Golspie on 13.12.1774. Birth and death dates unknown. I note you added Alistair to Norman's name - I haven't come across that before. You talked about the number of articles which tried to determine who was Sir John A.McDONALD's grandfather. That surprises me considering that his official biography states that his grandfather was John McDONALD married on 18.8.1778 to Miss Jean McDONALD of Rogart ( no relation). They had a large family including Hugh, the father of Sir John, who was born in Rogart on 12.12.1782. The family later moved to Dornoch where John owned a shop near the Cathedral. Hugh began work as an apprentice in his father's shop. On reaching his majority he set out for Glasgow and later to Canada with all his family in 1820. I see Ian MORRISON's message 27 June confirms much of this. None of this however ties in with the other story about Hugh which claims he owned shops at Dalmore and Rovie in Strath Fleet. You mentioned a cairn at Dalmore and this would seem to support this story. ( No, I haven't visited this cairn although I must have passed close to it and yes, I would certainly like a photo of it.) There is another theory however, which suggests that this Hugh of Strath Fleet may have been Sir John's g.grandfather ie John's father. To add to the confusion I did find in the Rogart OPR a birth entry " Paul son of Hugh McDONALD in Rovie bap 7.9.1771." Colonel Gilbert GUNN claims that Sergt James McDONALD was a nephew of John, Sir John's grandfather. If that is correct my g.grandmother Margaret McDONALD would have been a second cousin of Sir John. In 1881 I called on David GIBSON, my father's first cousin of Golspie, just before David died. He of course was a grandson of Margaret and he farmed at Rovie Farm in Strath Fleet for 20 years from 1928. He always claimed he was related to Sir John. Christine, does all this make me sound like those good McDONALD descendants you mentioned in Canada, out there searching and trying to establish a connection to Sir John. You'd be right. Thanks for the information about the major. I was somewhat surprised to see that he was the progenitor of all the Rogart McDONALDs. He must have been a busy lad. Some years ago I copied all the McDONALDs in the Rogart OPR. The earliest record was the birth of Donald to Donald McDONALD at Knockarthur in 1768 with a further 12 births in the following 4 years. Then there was a gap from 1772 to 1795. After that and until civil registration started in 1855, there were a further 135 births recorded. That doesn't include those not recorded, such as my Alexander. Thank you to Cathy Wagner, who has come up with another Major McDONALD. If he was born, as she says, about 1785 - 95, then he belongs to the same generation as the families of John (Sir John's grandfather) and Norman and may in fact belong to one of those two families. Once again I've rabbited on at great length. Sorry. I'll try to be briefer next time. Yes Christine I certainly am enjoying the list and also look forward to more debate and particularly more enlightenment. Jim