The Scotland Free Census Project is part of the larger UK Free Census project (aka FreeCEN) that aims to transcribe all UK 19th century census returns to create an on-line 'free-to-view' database. The project was launched in April 2002 and to date has 6 active county projects and another 12 due to be underway by the end of the year. Each county project is beginning with the 1841 census returns and will move on to other years at the discretion of the county organizer. I am currently trying to recruit organizers for all open counties, including Sutherland. Organizers are responsible for recruiting and supervising a team of volunteers to transcribe their assigned county. To be an organizer, you just need some time, a computer and access to a microfilm or microfiche reader. All other materials are supplied by FreeCEN, including software, microfilm/fiche, and plenty of advice and instruction. If you are interested in organizing a project for Sutherland or another county, please contact me at [email protected] More information on the project can be found at http://www.speakeasy.org/~jgribble/scotland.html Thank you, Jennifer Gribble Scotland Recruiter & Ayrshire Coordinator UK FreeCEN Project http://www.speakeasy.org/~jgribble/scotland.html

Final and last word on the current virus. It is coming through despite Rootsweb's efforts to stop it. The virus is I-worm/Keywo As members of this list you owe it to others to ensure that you are using a good virus catcher. If you do not have one go to grisoft and get the FREE one. I use it and it works. If you already have it and have not updated it please DO IT NOW. Hopefully that will be the last we hear of this virus on this list. Thanks Christine www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/2002

Just to explain, the new URL is: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk NOT .com! this brings up advertising. Working on the info we gathered on visits to NAtional Archives, there is so much there I despair of ever ffinding all the useful material. Will send on what we sort out to Christine. regards, Ann Mackay

Wonderfully useful info.Thanks Cathy, regards Ann Mackay

Only got time to list those in front of me before leaving for work. Will go into book case in the evening. Be a good idea later for folks to write a review of the books? Which are useful, which are not? The Statistical Account of Scotland, Sutherland and Caithness, 1799 Sutherland Monumental Inscriptions, pre 1855, edited by Cowper & Ross, first published by Scottish Genealogical Society, late 1980s. Last reprint 1999. Sutherland Estate Management 1802-1816, Published by Scottish History Society, 1972 Firthlands of Ross and Sutherland, edited by John R. Baldwin, published by The Scottish Society for Northern Studies, 1986. (includes Land Assessments and Settlement History in Sutherland and Easter Ross, Malcolm Bangor-Jones). A History of Lairg, Lesley Ketteringham, Published 1997 by The Byre, Lairg. The Province of Strathnaver, edited by John R. Baldwin, published by the Scottish Society for Northern Studies. (includes From Clanship to Crofting, Landownership, Economy and the Church in the Province of Strathnaver, Malcolm Bangor-Jones). Some Helmsdale Memories, JRD Campbell, 1998, Published by Helmsdale Heritage Society. Fastwords, Westwords, New Writing from Sutherland, a collection of writings by the members of the East Sutherland Writers Group, 1997. Includes the poem Bonnie Rogart, Johan I Grant. The Day Book of William Macdonald, Merchant of Lairg 1812-1818, by Lelsey Ketteringham for the Lairg History Society. Published 2000. Tracing Scottish Ancestors, Rosemary Bigwood, Published by Harper Collins, 1999 Christine www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/2002

I think this is a brilliant idea. I will create a full list of book holdings if you each post which books you have. Bound to be duplicates but would be good if there was a 'library' in each country. Christine www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Grant [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 October 2002 20:35 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SUT] New Zealand Scottish Genealogy This posting has made me think about books etc in a wider context. Anyone support the idea of a "library" of books, film, maps etc held by members that they might be willing to share or at least make checks from? Between us we must have a lot of items that would be of interests to others. Grant ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/2002

Hi all Some time ago.....I remember ....there being talk of Sutherland people in Zorra twp., Ontario I have a list here of men that held property in Zorra twp in 1892 I will list their names and ages.....for you all, I only copied the surname with start of ""M"" and I will only list on here common M surnames of Sutherland If anyone wants ....another surname looked up I will be more than happy to accomodate ** Iain take note of the ONE....MCBEATH on the list!! MURRAY, Robert living Tavistock age 49 MURRAY, Neil living Tavistock age not listed MATHESON, James living Innerkip age 49 MATHESON, Joseph living Innerkip age 48 MC COLL Hugh living Innerkip age 44 MURRAY, George J. living Cassel age 21 or 29 MCDONALD, William, living Cassel , blacksmith age 55 MURRAY, Andrew living Walmer age 24 MCDONALD , John living Walmer, blacksmith age36 MURRAY W.? H., living Tavistock, Cutter age 24 MURRAY, Alexander living Tavistock , Carpenter age 91 MCDONALD, Finlay living Woodstock, farmer age 41 MCDONALD, Hugh living Woodstock age 39 McKAY, John living Woodstock age 69 McKAY, D. G. living Hickson, Clerk and treasurer age 53 McKAY, Alex, farmer living Hickson age 24 MCKAY, Durgwall? living Tavistock age 73 MCKAY, John living Tavistock age 44 MCKAY, Alex age 23 living Tavistock MCKAY, James living Tavistock age 57 MCKAY, Stephen living Tavistock age 22 MCKENZIE , John living Strathallan, Well digger age 53 MUNROE, Robert living Strathallan,, labourer age 33 MCDONALD, Joseph living Cassel age 27 MCBEATH, David living Innerkip, gentleman age 74 *** MATHESON Adam McColl, farmer age 41 living Innerkip MCLEAN, Robert farmer no age listed living Innerkip MUNROE, MRS. Jessie living Woodstock no age listed MCKAY John S. living Woodstock , Barrister age 41 MURRAY, Robert Sr. living Woodstock age 60 or 68 MURRAY William living Woodstock age 34 MURRAY, Robert Jr. living Woodstock age 24 MURRAY James W. living Woodstock age 23 MCDONALD, John living Woodstock age 35 MCKAY Andrew living Woodstock age 39 MURRAY, George A. living Woodstock, farmer age 32 MURRAY, Robert living Woodstock , farmer age 70 MCLEOD, George living ????, farmer age 31 MCKAY, John living S.Zorra farmer age 75 MCKAY, James living S.Zorra farmer age 30 MURRAY, A.C. living Hickson age 73 MATHESON, Donald linving Bernnington no age listed MURRAY, George living Hickson age maybe 32? MURRAY Arthur living Hickson age27 MURRAY, Peter living Hickson age 85 MURRAY, William living Hickson age 35 MURRAY, George living Hickson age 42 MURRAY, Donald living Tavistock age 38 MATHESON, Alex living Maplewood age 24 MCLEOD, Mary Ann living Woodstock no age listed MCLEOD, Anni living Woodstock no age listed ** both girls listed as spinsters MCLEOD, William living Braumar age 50 MCKAY, Alex G. living Braumar age41 MCKENZIE, John living Braumar age54 MCKAY, John S. living Braumar age50 MORRISON, George living Braumar age 49 MORRISON, Alex living Braumar age 22 MCDONALD, Jane living Braumer age 82 MURRAY, john living Hickson age 44 MCDONALD, David S. living Braumar age 52 MCKAY William living Braumar age 24 MCKAY, Robert living Braumar age 37 MCKAY, Donald living Braumar age 27 MCKAY, John living Braumar age 25 MUNROE , Hugh living Braumar age 68 MUNROE, Peter living Braumar age 25 MUNROE, Hugh Jr. living Braumar age 22 MCDONALD, Hugh living Braumar age 41 MCDONALD, Danial or Dariah living Braumar age 38 MCKAY, Alex S. living Woodstock age 49 MURRAY, Robert living Tavistock age 49 MURRAY, Neil living Tavistock no age listed MATHISON, James living Innerkip age 49 MATHISON, Joseph living Innerkip age 48 MCCOLL, Hugh living Innerkip age 44 Now folks this is just the one year...there are many more years or at least a few...on the film if anyone needs anyone followed up It also reveals....(if the film isnt too hazy at that point...) what lot and concession they lived on ...how many cattle they had...how many acres If indeed someone has someone on the list ...or another name needed looked up on this land record film, I will be happy to fill in more information on that person for them Cathy

I am amazed at how much people know and can share with each other. Keep it up......... I am also amazed at how many place names were brought with the people:the same names keep repeating, all around the world...... -- Elizabeth Cook Melbourne, Australia

Does someone have an online map of the parishes of Sutherland? or point us to one in a book? Thanks -- Elizabeth Cook Melbourne, Australia

Excellent idea there is a lot of information available via list members perhaps people could post there Resources to the List? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [SUT] New Zealand Scottish Genealogy > This posting has made me think about books etc in a wider context. > Anyone support the idea of a "library" of books, film, maps etc held by > members that they might be willing to share or at least make checks from? > Between us we must have a lot of items that would be of interests to others. > > Grant > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to Cathy Wagner I received a copy of the 1851 census pages for Lady's Loch today in the post There is an Alexander Bruce aged 82 born Clyne and his Wife Janet aged 70 also born in Clyne relatives perhaps? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret and Darren Gaven <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:00 AM Subject: [SUT] Re list...Kildonan/Loth/Helmsdale > I too am a bit too busy, especially right now & don't get to contribute as much as I would like to the group, but I enjoy it very much & feel I have come to know a number of people from their postings. My dream is to get to Sutherland one day & do some sleuthing. In the meantime, I continue to search from Canada for my elusive Bruces, Hendersons & Mathesons from Kildonan/Loth/Helmsdale. I am particularly searching for the wife of William Bruce born abt 1791 in Kildonan. William was still alive at the time of the 1851 census, but his wife had died before. They had 4 children, William, Esther, Peggy & Betsy. Also searching for the parents of Gordon Henderson who married Christian Bruce (on the other side of the family) Mar 12, 1824 in Loth. Their children were John, George & Gordon. Actually, I'm looking for lots more, but that is a good start. Many thanks in advance. > > Margaret Gaven [email protected] > North Vancouver > British Columbia, Canada > researching Brownscombe, Rendle, Gould, King & > Pittwood (Devon), Pinnell/Pennell (Brinkworth, Wiltshire), Guest > (Tipperary, Ireland), McRoberts & Hardy (Ireland), Green (Norfolk), > Case (England), Henderson, Bruce & Matheson (Helmsdale, Kildonan & Loth, Sutherland, Scotland), Woolley (Ontario, Canada via New > Jersey, U.S.A. from England), Thompson (Ontario, Canada via Mass. U.S.A. from England) > & many more > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Folks I have set up some new pages on my website www.cmy.org.uk with photographs and transcripts of a few gravestones in the Tongue Parish ceneteries. Some of these memorials are included in my own research, others have been photographed for members of the Tongue List - some just because I like them! Most people on these stones were born, lived and died in Tongue Parish. The pictures have been heavily compressed. If you want to make a print of "your" stone, or study the wording in more detail - just ask, and I'll send you a better file. Grateful for your input on layout, the search facility, etc. Good luck with your research. Mary Young

This posting has made me think about books etc in a wider context. Anyone support the idea of a "library" of books, film, maps etc held by members that they might be willing to share or at least make checks from? Between us we must have a lot of items that would be of interests to others. Grant

I have a parish map of Sutherland. If anyone wants a copy mail me Grant

Did you know there is a Melbourne, Derbyshire, England? Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > I am also amazed at how many place names were brought with the > people:the same names keep repeating, all around the world...... > Elizabeth Cook > Melbourne, Australia

Well I tried Mary but all I get is a page of advertising for services I do not want. This is frustrating, Ann Mackay

Perhaps they are still sewing them on ? Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Thomas <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: Fw: [SUT] Ref OUR WEB SITE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sara Thomas" <[email protected]> > To: "Christine Stokes" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:02 AM > Subject: Re: [SUT] Ref OUR WEB SITE > > > Christine > I don't know why you're complaining. I've been on a list called > 'Military Buttons' for yonks and haven't ever seen a single > message ---- not even one from me! (oops) > Sara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Stokes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:22 AM > Subject: [SUT] Ref OUR WEB SITE > > > You wrote > This list has gone so quiet that I am now receiving private emails > asking if we have closed down the mailing list! > .... > > > > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have been trying to track my Hamilton family and have hit a dead end. I am looking for any information on James HAMILTON born around 1786 in Clyne. He married Ann CAMERON from Golspie and their first son Robert was baptised in Clyne 28 February 1814. They then must have made a move to Caithness where all there other children were born. James died in 1851 in Bower. I can find no record of either his birth or his marriage. Can anyone advise me on likely sources of information (beyond the Scotlandspeople web site which I have thoroughly searched). Many Thanks Cathy Goodwin ([email protected])

Thanks Ann for this. Found it right away. Pat On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 04:14 PM, Ann Mackay wrote: > Just to explain, the new URL is: > www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk > > NOT .com! this brings up advertising. > > Working on the info we gathered on visits to NAtional Archives, there > is so much there I despair of ever ffinding all the useful material. > Will send on what we sort out to Christine. > regards, Ann Mackay > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Just had a look at the new Golspie inscriptions site-absolutely delightful! and so much work. -a donation to POSH is on the way. Many thanks Lizzi ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Stokes <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: [SUT] GOLSPIE INSCRIPTIONS > Golspie inscriptions are now up on our web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > You will notice that this time we have not added in all the email addresses > of descendants. Where there is a descendant to contact simply email us at > [email protected] and we will forward your email. > This is done solely to protect you all from junk mail. (have had a few > problems with this recently). > > Christine > www.highlandhearts.com > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 19/09/2002 > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Our Member's Interest's site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >