Whilst on the trail of Kinlochbervie forebears of my wife's, I noted details of an 1831 petition from the inhabitants of Eddrachillis to the Marquis of Stafford for which most of the text was provided in "A History of the Highland Clearances..." by Eric Richards. Hoping many personal names might be mentioned, I sent away to the Stafford Record Office for a copy of the original document. Unfortunately no personal names were given but the text itself is interesting and I provide a transcript below. I would be interested to hear from others on the list with an interest in this area. Peter Grant London / New Zealand _____________________________ Address: February 9th 1831 Edderachylles Petition to Marquis of Stafford (Trentham Hall, London) Text: Eddrachillis February 9th 1831 To the Most Noble the Marquis of Stafford The Petition of the Inhabitants of the Parish of Eddrachillis in the County of Sutherland. Humbly sheweth That your Petitioners have been urged by necessity to apply to your Lordship's Commissioner for a reduction of Rent, and not having received any satisfactory answer they are compelled as a last resource to apply to your Lordship. That more than two thirds of the Parish in which your Petitioners reside have been laid waste by the Sheep farming System, in consequence of which the part inhabited is over crowded with the surplus Population. That your Petitioners formerly paid their rents by rearing Cattle and by fishing, but now that ten families occupy the place formerly inhabited by one, the rearing of Cattle was rendered impracticable, and the fishing which at all times is precarious has this year in a great measure failed. That your Petitioners are prevented from improving the little land they Cultivate, not only by not having leases of it, but above all by being prohibited from using the Sea-ware [sic] on the Coast for manure. That in consequence of these hardships there are not in this parish nine families which can be Supported for nine months by the produce of their lands, that the young men of the Parish though much attached to their Superiors and to their country are compelled by these grievances to emigrate to Foreign lands, but before they reluctantly leave their native Soil they deem it their duty to make their case known to your Lordship. May your Lordship therefore be pleased to grant them such a redress to these grievances as may enable them still to continue in their native Parish, and your Petitioners will ever pray. P.S. your Lordship will be pleased to direct the answer to this Petition to the Session Clark [sic] of this Parish.

I need help with the following family. Catherine McIntosh of Inchverry House in Tongue married James MacKay a tailor in 1849. They had a family of four. ( Catherine was a widow as her husband William McIntosh had died, and she had 3 living children from this marriage). I need birthdates for Catherine and James MacKay's children Murdock @1852, John @1854, Flora @ 1856 married Joseph Munroe, and William @1860. Murdock MacKay married a Christina about 1880 in Tongue, and had a daughter Christina there. This family immigrated to Canada in 1884. The IGI does not give the marriage for Murdock and Christina or the daughter, Christina's birth date. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carol (McIntosh) Small

Just wanted to say "thank you" to ksp (Karen) for the above Deaths in Tongue. My husband found his Grandfather's brother - Robert's death 14 years of age in those deaths. Thank you so much Karen. Jessie Newlands. B.C. Canada.

Format: Name, profession, status; date [all 1863] and place of death; sex; age [in years unless otherwise stated]; father's name and profession; mother's maiden name [unless otherwise stated]; cause of death; informant. [note, place of burial not provided in 1863] Registrar Archibald McNeill unless otherwise noted. Augusina Sutherland, domestic servant, single; Jan 1at Strathan, Melness; F; 25; Hugh Sutherland, tenant and fisherman; Catherine McDonald; Phthysis pulmonalis 18 months; George [appears to be McGerard], brother-in-law. Catherine McKay, married, pauper; Jan 28 at Talmine, Melness; F; 99; no father listed; Barbara McKay, deceased [maiden name not specified as such]; debility, Donald McKay, son. Margaret McKay, widow, Jan 26, Skinnid, Melness; F; 73; Hugh Sutherland, tailor & tenant, deceased; Elizabeth McKay, deceased; General debility; Hugh McKay, son. See reg of corrected entries Vol 1, pg 13, March 3rd: No name; Feb 1, found outter rocks Island Roan; M; abt 28; informant Donald McKay, fisherman from Island Roan. Donald McKay, shoemaker, married; Feb 3 at Torrisdale; M; 84; George McKay, labourer, deceased; no mother named; general debility; Hugh McKay, neighbor. See Reg of corrected entries, Vol 1; pg 14; Mar 3rd: No name; Feb 20th, body found floating in the Kyle of Tongue opposit the Ferry House; M; informant Robert Munro, ferryman. Bell Morrison, married; Mar 3 at Lubinvoulin, Melness; F; 68; William Gordon, tenant, Deceased; Catherine McKay, deceased; General debility; John Cameron, nephew. See reg of Corrected entries Vol 1, page 15, Apr 6th: No name; Mar 7; body found floating near the landing place in Island Roan; M; informant Donald McKay, fisherman. Christy McKay, widow, pauper; Mar 8 at Borgie; F; 86; William McKay, labourer, deceased; Barbara McKay, deceased; general debility; Neil McKay, son. George MacDonald, fisherman, married; Mar 17 at Island Roan; M; 56; Hugh Macdonald, fisherman, deceased; Henrietta McLeod, deceased; unknown; Hugh MacDonald, son. Robert Newlands, single; Mar 21 at Modsary [?]; M; 14; Robert Newlands, parochial schoolmaster Tongue, deceased; Grace Forbes; Gastrie fever 6 weeks; John Newland, brother. Catherine McKay, pauper; Mar 28 at Midtown, Melness; F; 74; Roderick McKay, labourer, deceased; no mother listed; unknown; William McLeod, son-in-law. Jane Rankin, married; Mar 7 at Talmine, Melness; F; 26; George McKay, labourer, deceased; Margaret Murray; Obscure disease of brain, 10 weeks; Margaret Murray, mother. Jane McKay, single; Apr 1 at Lubinvoulin [?], Melness; F; 16; Hugh McKay, tenant & joiner; Ann Campbell; unknown; George Sutherland, neighbor. Catherine Gunn, pauper, widow; Apr 13, Skinnid, Melness; F; 85; John McKay, deceased; Janet McKay, deceased; general debility; Donald G....[Gunn?], nephew. John Brims; single; Apr 20 at House of Tongue; M; 2; Daniel Brims, gardener; Mary Jane Cassie; epileptic convulsions 36 hours; Daniel Brims, father. Margaret Campbell, pauper, widow; Apr 23 at Dalcharn; F; 73; WIlliam McIntosh, tenant, deceased; Christy McPherson, deceased; jaundice 2 months; Margaret Campbell, daughter-in-law. Mary Ross; pauper, single; Apr 26 at Strath, Tongue; F; 69; Andrew Ross, tenant, deceased; Betty Ross, deceased; diarrhoea acting on a debilitated system; Peter MacKay, brother-in-law. Isabella Campbell, widow; May 9 at Coldbacky; F; 72; Walter MaKay, tenant, deceased; Catherine [no maiden name designated], deceased; general debility; Walter Campbell, son. Isabella McKay, married; May 15 at Moin [?] House; F; 60; Archibald McLean, deceased; Ann Crabb, deceased; Phthysis palmonalis 2 yrs; Geo. McKay, husband. Jane Macpherson, single; May 26 at Skinnid, Melness; F; 8 months; Murdo Hugh Macpherson, fisherman; Catherine Ross; unknown; Catherine Macpherson, mother. rest to follow.

Browsing the internet and stumbled over this page: http://members.shaw.ca/justgen/genscot.htm certainly got a good number of sites mentioned which will help in research. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002

Searching for any information on: Lieut. David SUTHERLAND.....Dornoch OPR (deaths) reads: "May 14 1835 Lieut. David Sutherland, Dornoch, aged 76 cause of death Palsey." He was born 1759...and was the son of Angus Sutherland and ?......he had at least one brother we know of...Kenneth Sutherland who married Christian ROSS....thusly descending to today..... any further information on where he may have lived at the time of his death (perhaps Sutherland Estate Papers?....) or further on his parents, would be appreciated. (Just a note, he was the brother of my Christian Sutherland who married Hugh Leslie, the procurator fiscal of Dornoch....) Thankyou, its nice to be back.... Theresa Coleman

Thumbing through one of my latest book purchase last night I found a very interesting piece as the son of highland folk I was brought up with a fair understanding of what happened ( I mean fair an understanding not an opinion) but I found the following facts helped my understanding "some figures do exist for 1819.Prepared by Suther (Estate Factor) these indicate that out of 3,331 tenants and subtenants evicted, 2304 were re-settled on the estate, 889 settled elsewhere in Sutherland or in neighbouring counties and only 83 emigrated .Information was not available for the remaining 57." While only one year is referred to this proves to me how important the Work of this list is and how useful the work of POSH is each of the 83 people may have left Relatives in Sutherland who may be buried in Sutherland, I personally have learnt a lot about my relatives (most of whom stayed in Sutherland ) through POSH and I would encourage anyone who has not looked at www.sutherlandheritage.com to look at the Site and consider purchasing the Graveyard c.d. which Bill and Christine have donated many hours of work to. to read about family is one thing to see tangible evidence on a photo is quite exciting . Iain Membership Secretary POSH Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage A Resident of Keighley West Yorkshire www.sutherlandheritage.com member's interests in Sutherland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.html

This handbook which includes a list of all names being researched is nearly complete. The absolute deadline to include any further names is 31st October. If you have not yet sent yours then please do so as soon as possible. I need: Surname being researched Where Time scale Your full name, mailing address and email address. If you have a web site you may include that also. If you have any queries then please ask me. Thanks as always. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

Hi Eileen, I can confirm that the parents of Donald Sutherland b. 1792 [died 16 Jan 1879] were John Sutherland/Elspeth Bruce. And the parents of his wife Margaret Sutherland b.1790 [died 15 Jan 1873] were William Sutherland/Margaret Sutherland. I also have info. on Magaret Sutherland who married Neil Mackay [my G G Grandparents] and Catherine Sutherland who married John Murray [John was a son of my other G G Grandparents William Murray and Catherine McLeod]. I'll email you privately with more info. your distant relative, Isabella Fife, Scotland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Jefferies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: [SUT] Sutherland, Mackay-Doll,Clyne > Hello List members, > I have been lurking in the background of this list > for almost six months learning so much about the > area.It is now time to post my interests! > I must reiterate my thanks to all.I received some > names of cousins still living in Scotland courtesy of > Isabella McGregor. Using that info, I posted a message > on the Brora web site asking anyone with knowledge of > my family to contact me and within a month had > received emails from two cousins still living in > Brora!!A huge thank you to Ronnie Mackay who provides > the services there in Brora! Highly recommended > website! > As luck would have it a lot of research has been done > for me already! I am related to most of you;Isabella, > Ron Patrick and more I am sure! > My cousin has told me that we are descended from: > > (my great grands)- > James SUTHERLAND who married Annie MACKAY 10 July 1894 > in Loth. She was the daughter of Isaac and Sophie > MACKAY. > > James(one of 9 children) is the son of > John SUTHERLAND (1822-1904) and Elspeth MACKAY > (1824-1911). > other children are: > George(1845) + Jean BANNERMAN m.2 July 1868 > Donald(1846-1879) + ???--- 3 children > William +???--Nellie, Katy, William are their children > John(1856)+ Catherine SUTHERLAND m.26 July 1884-to > Ontario > Hugh(5 mar 1857)+ Annie MACKENZIE > Annie+ ??? GUNN?? > Kate(1859-1927) + Tom MOFFATT-- m.at Dumfries > Helen(1863) + Donald MACKAY(S/O Isaac and Sophie > MACKAY) > > > > John was the son of Donald b.1792 and Margaret b. 1789 > SUTHERLAND buried in Clyne Kirkton (CK1) > I suspect his parents were John SUTHERLAND and Elspet > BRUCE of the Doll.(Awaiting death cert from Amanda to > confirm this.) > > I have learned through the resources available on this > list and at POSH that Donald had two more children; > > Margaret SUTHERLAND(1805?) who married Neil MACKAY. > The parents of Alexander MACKAY who married Jane > MURRAY.(b.1834) > > and > > Catherine SUTHERLAND b.23 Aug 1820 who married John > MURRAY.Their children were Andrew, William,Donald, > William,& Catherine MURRAY. > > Does anyone know these folks? Any additional > information is greatly appreciated! I will gladly > share anything I have, of course. > > Waiting in anticipation > Kind Thanks to All, > > Eileen Jefferies > Bobcaygeon, Ontario, Canada > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Pat, how do you spell your grandmother's surname. I remember some time back checking for my MacKay family and they weren't there, or so I thought, then found by trial and error I had to put a space in between the 'c' and the 'k' for searching. Most Mc or Mac names are done the same way. Hope this helps. Jenny MacKay Geraldton WA > My grandmother (born in Scotland) was in London in 1881. I have a copy > from the film. Yet, she does not show on the LDS Online Census version. > > Pat > Winnipeg > >

From the 1881 CD: At South Side Beauly, Kilmorack - Colin CAMERON age 37, unmarried, bory Urray, R&C, labourer. His mother Catherine McLEAY, age 83, widow, born Contin, R&C, His sister Isabella CAMERON, age 39, unmarried, born Urray, R&C, domestic servant. At Leanissic Kilmorack Finlay McLEAY, age 49, unmarried born Kilmarack, general labourer, His sister Isabella McLEAY, age 53, unmarried, domestic servant, born Urray, R&C. At South Side, Beauly in the home of James and Williamina McLean was a Flora McLEAY, age 26, unmarried, servant, born Urray, R&C. That is all the McLeay's at Kilmorack. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Cook [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 October 2002 23:32 To: Christine Stokes Subject: RE: [SUT] LDS 1881 Census online Yhink all the McLeays I know about had either left Scotland or died, but would be interested to know if there were any McLeays in Kilmorack?(Inverness) Thanks Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: Christine Stokes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 24 October 2002 4:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SUT] LDS 1881 Census online Just a reminder if you struggle to get on to this site. I and others on this list have a copy of the 1881 census for all of Scotland. Happy to look up if you know name, rough idea of age and city or town they may be living in. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 October 2002 18:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [SUT] LDS 1881 Census online The following comes from the Ayrshire list with all due credit to June in Ogden, Utah: NB There has been a flurry of emails re this, the conclusion being that the Scottish 1881 census details are not yet on this site, but people born in Scotland and living in other parts of the UK are included: Good luck......edward, Limpsfield, Surrey It looks as though the US & Canadian 1880 census and the 1881 British Census are now on-line at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc h_census.asp I could not get past the index of the surname I was looking at, but I'm sure it is either because of the number of people who are trying to access it right now, or because it was just put up. Their news bulletin about the censuses was dated the 23rd of October, so it must be very new. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/News/frameset_news.asp?PAGE=Press/2002- 10-23_Census.asp Hopefully it will link the people within each household. I wonder, though, if we can do an advanced inquiry and find the misspellings, etc., or "browse through the neighborhood." Have a great day, and please let me have a chance on it too! :) June in Ogden Utah ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

Hello all just added 2 more books to my collection The Leviathan Of Wealth The Sutherland Fortune in the Industrial Revolution by Eric Richards The Sutherland Clearances 1806-1820 an introduction by David Forbes It will be interesting to read these and see what they contain Iain Membership Secretary POSH Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage A Resident of Keighley West Yorkshire www.sutherlandheritage.com member's interests in Sutherland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.html

We have today put up a new area on the web site named “In Memorium”. You will find it on the index page. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

If you have queries about in-patients in mental institutions in the past, there are four NHS Board Archivists covering Scotland, one of whom might be able to help. I know that the archivist based at the Crighton Royal Hospital DFS has been extremely helpful. I could send all four up-to-date addresses as an attachment if anyone's interested. (Constantly updated Norton Antivirus in place.) Let me know off-list. Sara (Wales)

Just a reminder if you struggle to get on to this site. I and others on this list have a copy of the 1881 census for all of Scotland. Happy to look up if you know name, rough idea of age and city or town they may be living in. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 October 2002 18:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [SUT] LDS 1881 Census online The following comes from the Ayrshire list with all due credit to June in Ogden, Utah: NB There has been a flurry of emails re this, the conclusion being that the Scottish 1881 census details are not yet on this site, but people born in Scotland and living in other parts of the UK are included: Good luck......edward, Limpsfield, Surrey It looks as though the US & Canadian 1880 census and the 1881 British Census are now on-line at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc h_census.asp I could not get past the index of the surname I was looking at, but I'm sure it is either because of the number of people who are trying to access it right now, or because it was just put up. Their news bulletin about the censuses was dated the 23rd of October, so it must be very new. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/News/frameset_news.asp?PAGE=Press/2002- 10-23_Census.asp Hopefully it will link the people within each household. I wonder, though, if we can do an advanced inquiry and find the misspellings, etc., or "browse through the neighborhood." Have a great day, and please let me have a chance on it too! :) June in Ogden Utah ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

Hello List members, I have been lurking in the background of this list for almost six months learning so much about the area.It is now time to post my interests! I must reiterate my thanks to all.I received some names of cousins still living in Scotland courtesy of Isabella McGregor. Using that info, I posted a message on the Brora web site asking anyone with knowledge of my family to contact me and within a month had received emails from two cousins still living in Brora!!A huge thank you to Ronnie Mackay who provides the services there in Brora! Highly recommended website! As luck would have it a lot of research has been done for me already! I am related to most of you;Isabella, Ron Patrick and more I am sure! My cousin has told me that we are descended from: (my great grands)- James SUTHERLAND who married Annie MACKAY 10 July 1894 in Loth. She was the daughter of Isaac and Sophie MACKAY. James(one of 9 children) is the son of John SUTHERLAND (1822-1904) and Elspeth MACKAY (1824-1911). other children are: George(1845) + Jean BANNERMAN m.2 July 1868 Donald(1846-1879) + ???--- 3 children William +???--Nellie, Katy, William are their children John(1856)+ Catherine SUTHERLAND m.26 July 1884-to Ontario Hugh(5 mar 1857)+ Annie MACKENZIE Annie+ ??? GUNN?? Kate(1859-1927) + Tom MOFFATT-- m.at Dumfries Helen(1863) + Donald MACKAY(S/O Isaac and Sophie MACKAY) John was the son of Donald b.1792 and Margaret b. 1789 SUTHERLAND buried in Clyne Kirkton (CK1) I suspect his parents were John SUTHERLAND and Elspet BRUCE of the Doll.(Awaiting death cert from Amanda to confirm this.) I have learned through the resources available on this list and at POSH that Donald had two more children; Margaret SUTHERLAND(1805?) who married Neil MACKAY. The parents of Alexander MACKAY who married Jane MURRAY.(b.1834) and Catherine SUTHERLAND b.23 Aug 1820 who married John MURRAY.Their children were Andrew, William,Donald, William,& Catherine MURRAY. Does anyone know these folks? Any additional information is greatly appreciated! I will gladly share anything I have, of course. Waiting in anticipation Kind Thanks to All, Eileen Jefferies Bobcaygeon, Ontario, Canada ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

My grandmother (born in Scotland) was in London in 1881. I have a copy from the film. Yet, she does not show on the LDS Online Census version. Pat Winnipeg > Just a reminder if you struggle to get on to this site. I and others on > this list have a copy of the 1881 census for all of Scotland. Happy to > look > up if you know name, rough idea of age and city or town they may be > living > in. > > Christine > Northamptonshire, England > www.highlandhearts.com > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 23 October 2002 18:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SUT] LDS 1881 Census online > > The following comes from the Ayrshire list with all due credit to June > in > Ogden, Utah: > NB There has been a flurry of emails re this, the conclusion being that > the > Scottish 1881 census details are not yet on this site, but people born > in > Scotland and living in other parts of the UK are included: Good > luck......edward, Limpsfield, Surrey > > > It looks as though the US & Canadian 1880 census and the 1881 British > Census are now on-line at: > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc > h_census.asp > > I could not get past the index of the surname I was looking at, but I'm > sure > it is either because of the number of people who are trying to access it > right now, or because it was just put up. Their news bulletin about the > censuses was dated the 23rd of October, so it must be very new. > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/News/frameset_news.asp?PAGE=Press/2002- > 10-23_Census.asp > > > Hopefully it will link the people within each household. I wonder, > though, > if we can do an advanced inquiry and find the misspellings, etc., or > "browse > through the neighborhood." > > Have a great day, and please let me have a chance on it too! :) > > June in Ogden Utah > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > Please visit our NEW POSH web site at > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The following comes from the Ayrshire list with all due credit to June in Ogden, Utah: NB There has been a flurry of emails re this, the conclusion being that the Scottish 1881 census details are not yet on this site, but people born in Scotland and living in other parts of the UK are included: Good luck......edward, Limpsfield, Surrey It looks as though the US & Canadian 1880 census and the 1881 British Census are now on-line at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp I could not get past the index of the surname I was looking at, but I'm sure it is either because of the number of people who are trying to access it right now, or because it was just put up. Their news bulletin about the censuses was dated the 23rd of October, so it must be very new. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/News/frameset_news.asp?PAGE=Press/2002-10-23_Census.asp Hopefully it will link the people within each household. I wonder, though, if we can do an advanced inquiry and find the misspellings, etc., or "browse through the neighborhood." Have a great day, and please let me have a chance on it too! :) June in Ogden Utah

You are welcome; I'm so glad it was useful - a small repayment for all the help you give others. D. ------- Outgoing mail certified virus-free by Norton AntiVirus ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Stokes <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:50 AM Subject: RE: [SUT] Alexander Calder > Diane > Many, many thanks for this. Debra is related and a wonderful find. > > Christine > Northamptonshire, England > www.highlandhearts.com > www.sutherlandheritage.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: bgeddes [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 18 October 2002 15:13 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SUT] Alexander Calder > > Christine Stokes: The following message is posted on > http://boards.ancestry.com. I searched for "calder ontario" and many > messages came up. This is #38: > > Would any of you recognize Ann GRANT (b. abt 1810) from Sutherland, parents > unknown to me, who married Alexander CALDER (b. about 1800) from Inverness. > After marriage and first child, Isabelle, this family emigrated to Ontario, > Canada. After 3 more children by Alexander in Canada, he dies. Then Ann > GRANT possibly remarries a John SUTHERLAND in Ontario. > > Posted on Jan. 22, 2001 by Debra Schaub at [email protected] > > Diane Geddes > Michigan USA > > ------- > Outgoing mail certified virus-free by Norton AntiVirus > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 > > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

***************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. ***************************************************************************** short notice in 1895 Nov 2 Highland News but taken from Celtic Monthly Malcolm Dundee, Scotland Mr Hugh Bannerman of Southport. Born Helmsdale 3rd son of late James Bannerman merchant. Hugh went to Ireland in 1851 where apprentice in large drapery establishment. 1860 Liverpool where partner in Sutherland & Co, silk mercers in Bond Street. Partnership dissolved in 1870 when opened similar house in "fashionable watering place of Southport" - Sutherland & Bannerman. Now sole partner. A pioneer of Presbyterianism in Southport. "His ancestors were, for generations, settled as tacksmen at Dalhalmy, on the lovely Strath of Kildonan, his grandfather, after having lost a leg in the service of king and country, being one of the victims of the Sutherland Clearances." "...remains a staunch Highlander... annual visit to his native village, where his two sisters reside."