I noted this paragraph with interest..... what a shame these entries were "corrected". How much easier would it have been to do our research with maiden names. Jenny Geraldton West Australia > It is also noted that married women and widows generally gave their > maiden name, but these were "corrected" asnd the Husband's surname given. >

Thanks for the info Christine on our memberships, and I shall happily send my money to Ron. But, as we grow, and we shall - let's get Visa? That way we don't have to write the cheque, get the envelope, stamp, go to the postal box. Just a suggestion that would make life easier - and I am sure increase membership as people do like the easy way.

A Christian MURRAY born in Loth parish married in Perth in November 1785 to an Alexander MATHESON (Mathewson). Have been unable to find anything on this Christian Murray - does anyone know her? Please reply direct to [email protected] if you can help. Many thanks. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Denise Many thanks. You have made one gentleman in New Zealand a very happy man. This is the second person this week we have been able to help simply through the generous giving of time from people based in Sutherland. Thanks to you all. For interest most of the other families at Torbreck in the 1841 were related to myself, Mackenzies, Mackays etc. In the 1841 census across the Dornoch and Rogart areas - and possibly across all of Sutherland for all I know - there were very many men missing! It is said locally that they objected to this first 'proper' count of people and the relevant questions so took to the heather for the night! I believe this to be true as in many instances they are all home in 1851! Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Denise A. Ferne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 November 2002 20:11 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SUT] 1841 census for Rogart (McREA) I've checked the 1841 Census in Rogart, but only found the one group of McRaes, at Torbreck. George McRae 35 ... Tenant ... N (not born in county) Helen do..... 35.............. Y (born in county) William do... 15 .............. Y Catherine do... 15 ............ Y Margaret do.... 13 ............ Y Marjory do..... 11 ............ Y Philip do.... 4 .............. Y Nehemiah(?) do. 2 .............. Y I counted 9 inhabited dwellings in Torbreck (the census totals 7 in this area) and 2 uninhabited properties. The Census was taken 6th June 1841, and Remarks in Rogart include the following: "About twenty of the inhabitants of this district were absent on the night of sixth of June, attending Preaching in the Parish of Kincardine, Ross-shire; their names are not given here. "The designation 'Tenant' which occurs so frequently in this parish denotes -Occupier of a few acres of land, and earning a subsistance, chiefly therefrom. This class might, with propriety, be included among Agricultural Labourers. It is also noted that married women and widows generally gave their maiden name, but these were "corrected" asnd the Husband's surname given. Hope this helps - let me know if you need more. I have noted Enumeration district, and Heads of neighbouring households. Regards Denise, Sutherland, Scotland ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Our Member's Interest's site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

I've checked the 1841 Census in Rogart, but only found the one group of McRaes, at Torbreck. George McRae 35 ... Tenant ... N (not born in county) Helen do..... 35.............. Y (born in county) William do... 15 .............. Y Catherine do... 15 ............ Y Margaret do.... 13 ............ Y Marjory do..... 11 ............ Y Philip do.... 4 .............. Y Nehemiah(?) do. 2 .............. Y I counted 9 inhabited dwellings in Torbreck (the census totals 7 in this area) and 2 uninhabited properties. The Census was taken 6th June 1841, and Remarks in Rogart include the following: "About twenty of the inhabitants of this district were absent on the night of sixth of June, attending Preaching in the Parish of Kincardine, Ross-shire; their names are not given here. "The designation 'Tenant' which occurs so frequently in this parish denotes -Occupier of a few acres of land, and earning a subsistance, chiefly therefrom. This class might, with propriety, be included among Agricultural Labourers. It is also noted that married women and widows generally gave their maiden name, but these were "corrected" asnd the Husband's surname given. Hope this helps - let me know if you need more. I have noted Enumeration district, and Heads of neighbouring households. Regards Denise, Sutherland, Scotland

POSH is now over one year old. It has been an exciting time during which we have achieved a great deal. For new comers to the list let me remind you of our airms. Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage is a group of people (mainly from this list) who are dedicated to the preservation of the old burial grounds in Sutherland. Many of those are now becoming very old with some stones fallen or broken. Many more have inscriptions which are becoming virtually impossible to read. All money raised by POSH is used to work with local heritage groups in the clearing, tidying and repair of graveyards. We have had great success with Clyne Kirkton and will continue to support them. We will also be moving into a different burial ground in the spring if all goes well. We are currently photographing every gravestone in the county. A huge task which is being carried out by members and willing local volunteers. We anticipate this task being completed by 2004. We will be compiling books on the gravestones, many with further genealogical detail and many, many photographs. The first of these, St. Andrew's Churchyard, Golspie, is now available in our POSH SHOP. Our web site www.sutherlandheritage.com has become one of the busiest Scottish genealogical sites on the web. Some weeks we are recording up to 800 visitors. Unfortunately this huge number is not resulting in benefits for POSH as most visitors only look at our graveyard inscriptions and then leave. As we have discussed on this list there has to be a benefit to POSH to enable us to continue the good work which we are doing. For this reason, your full committee, both in Britain and overseas, have agreed that from now we will move the inscriptions into our members area. We have now taken the inscriptions down and are busy preparing this new area. There will be many more inscriptions on show when the new area re-opens to members on the 1st January 2003. Our indexes to the inscriptions, POSH SHOP, etc., will remain in the public area. Our web master, Linda Brownridge, is currently working hard preparing everything. I feel sure you will all wish to join me in saying a huge thankyou to Linda who has given up many, many hours to look after our web site. As you all know we have been discussing a subscription rate for future membership of POSH in order that we raise the necessary funds to allow POSH to move forward. At our committee meeting in Edinburgh last weekend the annual rate for 2003 was agreed at £10 Sterling. However, in order to give all our loyal supporters and current members an advantage we also agreed that members of this list can join for the special price of £7.50 Sterling. This price is effective for those who pay before the 31st December 2002 via their local representative. After that date all subscriptions will be £10. So what do you get for your subscription? Membership gives you unlimited access to the graveyard inscription area on our web site, a useful members handbook which will be mailed to you as soon as your cheque is received, 20% discount on all purchases from the POSH SHOP plus the knowledge of knowing that every single penny is used to preserve our heritage. Our handbook contains articles by Malcolm Bangor-Jones, Reverend J Leslie Goskirk, minister of Lairg and Rogart plus many other interesting articles. It has a full list of our members interests plus many tips on researching. A very useful little book which has been financed by advertising from Sutherland companies. Your subscription can be made in your local currency. Please use the link below to convert to your local rate. Please check this on the day you write your cheque. http://www.xe.com/ucc/ Please send your cheque together with your full name and postal address plus your email address to the appropriate person named on our contact sheet at http://www.sutherlandheritage.com/contact.html . If you have any queries please email me on [email protected] or contact any committee member. For our friends in the USA please note that we now accept US dollar cheques sent to Ron Patrick in Canada. Full details on the contact page. Now a couple of pleasant extras!! At this time of year it is always difficult to know what to buy for Christmas gifts. This year what about a subscription to POSH? All our current members may purchase extra memberships at the same special price - £7.50. Think how happy you could make someone with this gift. If you wish to take up this special offer please say it is a gift when sending in your payment and we will enclose a special card with the members handbook. Sara Thomas has purchased and donated to POSH a CD, Cànan nan Gàidheal (The language of the Gael), sung by Catherine-Ann Macphee, CDTRAX 009. As we allocate membership numbers to those who pay subscription before 31st December we will put a ticket in the draw. The draw will be take place on 31st December and the winner will be informed immediately. Please also note that the current passwords which some of you have for our members area are now out of date. We will issue all those who subscribe a new password with their members handbook. May I suggest that you print this email and keep it handy. We look forward to receiving your subscriptions and assure you that as always every penny will be used to Preserve our Sutherland Heritage. Many thanks Christine Stokes, chairperson, England Iain Sutherland, Treasurer & membership secretary, England Grant Forsyth, Scotland Sheila Mackay, Scotland John Macdonald, Scotland Bill O'Brien, Scotland Angi Lamb, Scotland Ann Mackay, New Zealand Ron Patrick, Canada John McKay, Australia Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage www.sutherlandheritage.com Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

POSH MEMBERSHIP POSH is now over one year old. It has been an exciting time during which we have achieved a great deal. For new comers to the list let me remind you of our airms. Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage is a group of people (mainly from this list) who are dedicated to the preservation of the old burial grounds in Sutherland. Many of those are now becoming very old with some stones fallen or broken. Many more have inscriptions which are becoming virtually impossible to read. All money raised by POSH is used to work with local heritage groups in the clearing, tidying and repair of graveyards. We have had great success with Clyne Kirkton and will continue to support them. We will also be moving into a different burial ground in the spring if all goes well. We are currently photographing every gravestone in the county. A huge task which is being carried out by members and willing local volunteers. We anticipate this task being completed by 2004. We will be compiling books on the gravestones, many with further genealogical detail and many, many photographs. The first of these, St. Andrew’s Churchyard, Golspie, is now available in our POSH SHOP. Our web site www.sutherlandheritage.com <http://www.sutherlandheritage.com/> has become one of the busiest Scottish genealogical sites on the web. Some weeks we are recording up to 800 visitors. Unfortunately this huge number is not resulting in benefits for POSH as most visitors only look at our graveyard inscriptions and then leave. As we have discussed on this list there has to be a benefit to POSH to enable us to continue the good work which we are doing. For this reason, your full committee, both in Britain and overseas, have agreed that from now we will move the inscriptions into our members area. We have now taken the inscriptions down and are busy preparing this new area. There will be many more inscriptions on show when the new area re-opens to members on the 1st January 2003. Our indexes to the inscriptions, POSH SHOP, etc., will remain in the public area. Our web master, Linda Brownridge, is currently working hard preparing everything. I feel sure you will all wish to join me in saying a huge thankyou to Linda who has given up many, many hours to look after our web site. As you all know we have been discussing a subscription rate for future membership of POSH in order that we raise the necessary funds to allow POSH to move forward. At our committee meeting in Edinburgh last weekend the annual rate for 2003 was agreed at £10 Sterling. However, in order to give all our loyal supporters and current members an advantage we also agreed that members of this list can join for the special price of £7.50 Sterling. This price is effective for those who pay before the 31st December 2002 via their local representative. After that date all subscriptions will be £10. So what do you get for your subscription? Membership gives you unlimited access to the graveyard inscription area on our web site, a useful members handbook which will be mailed to you as soon as your cheque is received, 20% discount on all purchases from the POSH SHOP plus the knowledge of knowing that every single penny is used to preserve our heritage. Our handbook contains articles by Malcolm Bangor-Jones, Reverend J Leslie Goskirk, minister of Lairg and Rogart plus many other interesting articles. It has a full list of our members interests plus many tips on researching. A very useful little book which has been financed by advertising from Sutherland companies. Your subscription can be made in your local currency. Please use the link below to convert to your local rate. Please check this on the day you write your cheque. http://www.xe.com/ucc/ <http://www.xe.com/ucc/> Please send your cheque together with your full name and postal address plus your email address to the appropriate person named on our contact sheet at http://www.sutherlandheritage.com/contact.html . If you have any queries please email me on [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> or contact any committee member. For our friends in the USA please note that we now accept US dollar cheques sent to Ron Patrick in Canada. Full details on the contact page. Now a couple of pleasant extras!! At this time of year it is always difficult to know what to buy for Christmas gifts. This year what about a subscription to POSH? All our current members may purchase extra memberships at the same special price - £7.50. Think how happy you could make someone with this gift. If you wish to take up this special offer please say it is a gift when sending in your payment and we will enclose a special card with the members handbook. Sara Thomas has purchased and donated to POSH a CD, Cànan nan Gàidheal (The language of the Gael), sung by Catherine-Ann Macphee, CDTRAX 009. As we allocate membership numbers to those who pay subscription before 31st December we will put a ticket in the draw. The draw will be take place on 31st December and the winner will be informed immediately. Please also note that the current passwords which some of you have for our members area are now out of date. We will issue all those who subscribe a new password with their members handbook. May I suggest that you print this email and keep it handy. We look forward to receiving your subscriptions and assure you that as always every penny will be used to Preserve our Sutherland Heritage. Many thanks Christine Stokes, chairperson, England Iain Sutherland, Treasurer & membership secretary, England Grant Forsyth, Scotland Sheila Mackay, Scotland John Macdonald, Scotland Bill O’Brien, Scotland Angi Lamb, Scotland Ann Mackay, New Zealand Ron Patrick, Canada John McKay, Australia Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage www.sutherlandheritage.com <http://www.sutherlandheritage.com/> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

This looks like a wonderful collection of details. Everything you ever wanted to know about the Highlands. So much to learn, so little time! Ron Stouffville, Ontario Canada L4A 4J4 Preserving Our Sutherland Heritage www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Ian Morrison [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SUT] Fw: The Gaelic Society of Inverness ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Morrison Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:09 PM To: Ian Morrison Subject: The Gaelic Society of Inverness It's me again. The list of Transactions is at a different site: www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/leabharlann/l_luibh/tgsi.html Ian ______________________________ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02

OK, so what's a ground officer (please be gentle with me as the post is "proverbially delicate and sometimes embarrasing). My books give no answer, Cowper & Ross note but offer nothing extra. Who will tell me? Denise, Sutherland, Scotland

Ian Interesting, and a useful link or two tucked in there somewhere! Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Morrison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: [SUT] The Gaelic Society of Inverness > I to-day received a newsletter from the above society, of which I am a member, and it occurred to me that its "Transactions" might be a source of interest for some members of the list. The society was formed c.1871, I think, and the "Transactions" are papers or essays delivered by knowledgeable people on a wide variety of subjects, with a Scottish and mostly Highland flavour. > > The Transactions have been published in bound volumes since its inception. I do not think that past volumes could be bought from the society but they should be in large libraries, including University libraries, particularly any that have a Department of Scottish Studies. > > All of the titles of the Transactions are listed at their web-site www.gsi.org.uk > > I know this will not be accessible by many members but if you can access them, it is well worth the trouble. > > Ian in Oakville, Ontario, Canada > > > ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== > To check out previous messages > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Morrison Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:09 PM To: Ian Morrison Subject: The Gaelic Society of Inverness It's me again. The list of Transactions is at a different site: www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/leabharlann/l_luibh/tgsi.html Ian

On Monday this week I plodded my way through the 1910 editions of the Northern Times while in Edinburgh. Found this interesting obituary for a Donald Murray – what is most interesting is the reference to his job as ground officer! 6 Jan 1910 death notice Donald Murray at Poles, Dornoch died 2 Jan. Obituary Mr Donald Murray, farmer, Poles died Sunday last. Mr Murray on retiring from the Duke’s service at Ben Armine a few years ago took the small farm of Poles and the post of ground officer. No man filled this proverbially delicate and sometimes embarrasing position better. He was an elder in the United Free Church. His elder brother was Baillie Murray of Glasgow. He leaves a widow and large family. Buried at Golspie yesterday. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

In my earlier posting, I forgot to say that most (est. 95%) of the Transactions are in English. It will be apparent from the title. Ian

I to-day received a newsletter from the above society, of which I am a member, and it occurred to me that its "Transactions" might be a source of interest for some members of the list. The society was formed c.1871, I think, and the "Transactions" are papers or essays delivered by knowledgeable people on a wide variety of subjects, with a Scottish and mostly Highland flavour. The Transactions have been published in bound volumes since its inception. I do not think that past volumes could be bought from the society but they should be in large libraries, including University libraries, particularly any that have a Department of Scottish Studies. All of the titles of the Transactions are listed at their web-site www.gsi.org.uk I know this will not be accessible by many members but if you can access them, it is well worth the trouble. Ian in Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Thanks to Adair for the inscription from New Zealand. I am now collecting inscriptions for those buried overseas where the gravestone states native of Sutherland or native of Dornoch, etc. Also where it is known that the buried person was born in Sutherland. One day I hope to have a section on our web site for these important stones. If anyone has any of these with photographs if possible please send them to me. Thanks Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: G L & D A Genge [mailto:genge/[email protected]] Sent: 21 November 2002 08:02 To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Gunn grave Good morning listers, We have been going through old travel notebooks extracting and filing information. Erected to the memory of DONALD GUNN, Native of Sutherlandshire, who departed this life at Taieri Lake January 27 1857, aged 27 years. This grave is in the HAMILTONS CEMETERY, high up on the northern end of the Rock and Pillar Range in Central Otago, South Island, New Zealand. In the 1860's, gold was discovered in this area and Hamiltons was a thriving township up until the turn of the 19th century. Now there is nothing there except the gold tailings turned into a big lake (now a water resevoir), some old remnants of domestic gardens, and the cemetery which is surrounded by a magnificent dry stone wall and looks down over the vast Taieri Plain. The graves have been catalogued and the cemetery cleaned up. It was covered with ivy and periwinkle and nettles. We wish now we had written down more of the inscriptions as there were others from Sutherlandshire (we'll go back one day). This GUNN grave we did note and it may be of interest to someone. Cheers Adair --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Format: NAME, status; death month, day and place; sex; age [in years unless otherwise noted]; father's name and occupation; mother's maiden name [unless otherwise noted]; cause of death; burial place; informant. Archibald McNeill, registrar unless otherwise noted. Isabella McKAY, widow; Jan 16 at Scullomy; F; 86; Angus McKAY, tenant, deceased; Mary CLARK, deceased; general debility; Tongue; Angus McKAY, son. Catherine MORRISON, widow; Jan 18 at Skinnid; F; 87; McKENZIE, tenant, deceased; Ann McKAY; general debility; Ferry House; George McLEOD, son-in-law. George McKAY, teacher, married; Feb 6 at Achnurgh, Melness; M; 29; John McKAY, tenant; Mary McKAY; pulmonary consumption 18 months; Ferry House; Colin MacKAY, cousin. Barbara SUTHERLAND, pauper; Feb 7 at Strath, Melness; F; 71; Hector SUTHERLAND, deceased; Ann STEWART; general debility; Ferry House; John SUTHERLAND, brother. Hugh MUNRO, merchant; single; Mar 12 at Skerray; M; 42; Alexander MUNRO, deceased; Caroline McKAY; consumption, Torrisdale Burial; Murdoch McKAY, neighbour. [no first name] ROSS, Mar 9 at Kirkiboll, F; 25 days; no father listed; Robertina ROSS; sloughing of the tuteguments [?] over the chest 6 days; Tongue Burial; John ROSS, uncle. Jane CAMPBELL, widow, pauper; Mar 29 at Skerray; F; 80; ALexander McKAY, deceased; Jane McKAY, deceased; general debility; Torrisdale Burial; Donald SUTHERLAND, neighbour. Donald McKAY; Apr 16 at Midfield, Strath, Melness; M; 82; John McKAY, tenant, deceased; Mary, McKAY; general debility; Ferry House; Daniel MacKAY, son. Thomas McKAY; Apr 22 at Torrisdale, M; 57; Jaems McKAY, tenant, deceased; Merran [no maiden name], deceased; unknown, no medical attendant; Torrisdale Burial; Niel McKAY, son. Mary MORRISON, widow, pauper, May 10 at Island Roan; F; 87; Hugh McKENZIE, deceased; no mother recorded; general debility; Torrisdale; Angus MacDONALD, neighbour. Elizabeth ROSS, pauper, May 22 at Skerray; F; 67; John ROSS, deceased; Henrietta McKENZIE, deceased; the usual infirmities of old age, several years; Tongue Burial; James ROSS, nephew. William MCKAY, pauper; June 5 at Skinnid, Melness; M; 85; Roderick MCKAY, deceased; Catherine MCKAY; unknown, Ferry House; Angus MCKAY, son-in-law. Mary MATHESON, widow; Jun 10 at Blandy; F; 56; Hugh MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Betsy MORRISON, deceased; general debility; TOngue Burial; Donald MATHESON, son. Christina MCDONALD, widow; Jun 25 at Melness; F; 80; John MORRISON, tenant, deceased; Henrietta [no maiden name], deceased; general debility; Ferry House; Duncan ? neighbour [name unclear]. Sarah MCKAY, single; Jul 3 at Achtotty Lots, Skerray; F; 17; George McKAY, tenant; Mary MCKAY; unknown; Torrisdale Burial; George MCKAY, father. Hughina MATHESON, single; Aug 28 at Blandy, Tongue; F; 26; Angus MATHESON, deceased; Mary MCKAY, deceased; pulmonary consumption 6 months; Tongue Burial; Alexander MATHESON, brother. John MCKAY, married; Sep 11 at West Strathen, Melness; M; 66; Donald MCKAY, deceased; Sybella THOMSON, deceased; unknown; Ferry House; Colin MACKAY, cousin. Maria McNEILL, single; Sep 11 at Tongue; F; 7; Archibald McNEILL, parish schoolmaster and registrar; Mary FRASER; hypertrophy of the right lung, 6 months; Tongue Burial; Archibald MCNEILL, father. Augusina McBEATH, single; Sep 24 at Achtotty; F; 23; Alexander MCBEATH; Catherine MCKAY; unknown; Torrisdale Burial; Donald MCBEATH, brother. Janet MCKAY, pauper; Sep 23 at Torrisdale; F; 70; Angus MCKAY, deceased; Barbara MCKAY, deceased; unknown; Torrisdale Burial; Archibald McNEILL, inspector of the poor. John MCKAY, single; Oct 5 at Skerray; M; 18; George McKAY, tenant; Mary MCKAY, unknown; Torrisdale Burial; George MCKAY, father. Thomas MCKAY; Sep 28 at Achtotty, Skerray; M; 3 months; George MCKAY, tenant; Mary McKAY; unknown; Torrisdale Burial, George McKAY, father. Ann MACKAY, widow; Nov 10 at Scullomey; F; 60; Hugh MACKAY, tenant, deceased; Meran MACKAY; general debility; Tongue Burial; George MACKAY, son. Alexander MACKAY; Nov 22 at Torray, Skerray; M; 3 1/2; Donald MACKAY, labourer; Margaret MUNRO; unknown; Torrisdale Burial; William MUNRO, uncle. John MACINTOSH, tenant, widower; Nov 28 at Achtotty Lots, Skerray; M; 75; Donald MCINTOSH, deceased; Janet MCLEOD, deceased; general debility; Torrisdale, James ROSS, son-in-law. Betsy MACKAY, single; Nov 27 at Tubeg, Skerray; F; no age given; Niel MACKAY, tenant, deceased; Betsy MCKENZIE; unknown; Torrisdale Burial; William MCKAY, nephew. Hugh MCKAY, single; Dec 24 at Dalna??, Melness; M; 24; Hugh McKAY, tenant, deceased; Euphemia MCKAY; unknown, Ferry House; George SUTHERLAND, neighbour. George MCKAY, pauper, fatuous; Dec 27 at Modsary; M; 68; Donald MCKAY, tenant, deceased; Ann MCKAY, deceased; unknown; Torrisdale; John MATHESON, keeper. In a few weeks will provide 1861 and 1862 deaths for Tongue. Karen Kahaluu, Hawaii

Hi everyone, Back from our POSH meeting in Edinburgh. Will let you all know the outcome of what was a very good meeting very shortly. In the meantime does anyone have access to the 1841 census in Rogart? Am looking for any reference to the name McRae or Macrae. We know there was one at Torbreck but do not have the details. Grateful for any help. Thanks Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

I have found three apprentices from Sutherland in the Edinburgh Register of Apprentices 1583-1800: John MacKay/MacKae son of John M., Golspie, 1677 Hector Monro, son of Daniel M. in Sutherland, 1689 James Sutherland, son of William S. in Dornoch, 1644. N.B. These were found by searching for 'Sutherland', so could be others under 'Dornoch', 'Go(l)spie' etc.. For further details, see www.scotsfind.com and register! (Lots of other databases for your lost relatives.) Sara

Hi All Anyone looking for MacDonalds in Reay and Inverness in the 1700's on IGI files should check out "MacDond "as one minister appears to have abbreviated every entry. I have just found my family. Regards Derek

Hello, As I’ve just joined this list, may I ask if anyone out there has common links with my family listed below: Robert SUTHERLAND married Isabel (Bell) MACINTOSH on 7 Oct 1810 at St. Andrew’s, Golspie. They are both buried in the old kirkyard. Robert was a farm grieve at Dunrobin and at some time possibly lived at Dunbeath. His gravestone gives a date of death 4 Jun 1841 age 50 and his wife’s inscription gives her date of death 10 Dec 1862 aged 71. They had eleven children: John, Catharine, George, Donald, Margaret, Robert, Margaret, Isabel (Bell), Janet, unknown, & Nancy. Isabel married John McKenzie 7 Jan 1848 at Golspie and had 11 children and at least 65 grandchildren. John was an elder in the Free Kirk. There must be some relations out there ! Best wishes to all Phil 18 Nov 2002