Hi, Edward, Nothing wrong with your memory! There is a long tradition of Orkney ships trading up and down the west coast of Scotland. My father often mentioned them coming into Loch Broom. They were called FLOATING shops ( accent on floating ), possibly to distinguish them from shops that didn't!! In some west highland communities there are families with Orkadian names whose forebears arrived in connection with the floating shops. It's never mentioned in the local histories "down here ", but I believe there is quite a lot of info to be found in Orkney. Must dig sometime. Regards, Fraser MacKenzie, Sutherland.

There are a number of recent messages on the guest book at Highland Hearts (www.highlandhearts.com) which may be of interest to some on this list. Perhaps an opportunity to find a cousin! A descendant of John Sutherland and Christian McBeth is asking where is Balvalaich? Can anyone help? Message number 55. Message number 54 is seeking ROSS from Eddrachillis and message number 49 is a descendant of the Watson family from Golspie. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Noticed some lovely new photos on Northern Sights http://www.northernsights.net/ Judy

I want to make sure I have at least a reference to books/booklets etc. to do with Sutherland which have been written or edited by people on the list. E.g. Christine, could you remind me of yours? (Sorry to pick on you first!) Sara

I feel sure I speak for us all when I say how sorry we are that this wonderful old man has now passed on. You are very lucky to have had someone like him in the family. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: L Sutherland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 November 2002 21:03 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SUT] Eighty Eight Hello all, Just to inform all that Colin Campbell Sutherland, my uncle died this morning. He was the gg grandson of John Sutherland and Janet Campbell who emigrated in 1831 from Dornoch to Earltown, Nova Scotia. Colin was a fourth generation woodworker. He served with the North Nova Scotia Highlanders in World War Two as a piper. Some of his training was at Edinburgh Castle. In Northern Nova Scotia, Colin was well known for his excellent fiddling with the telltale Scottish flavour. Much of our family history survived thanks to his memory. He had many accomplishments, but perhaps his greatest was the saving of several North Nova's lives during the closing days of the war. Colin was modest about this heroic event and the story only came to light during the last year. He always told the family he would live to be eighty eight. And he did just that. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

No, I am not looking for information but a real live today person who actually lives in or near Sutherland, New South Wales. There is a large Celtic gathering there next summer which would be an ideal place for POSH to be launched on to the local scene but would be better if we had a person. Having said all that it would be interesting to know the background to the place - do you have that? Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: L Sutherland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 November 2002 14:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SUT] NEW SOUTH WALES Hello all, Christine, are you looking for information on the origin of Sutherland, New South Wales? Donald Lee Sutherland, Hamilton, ONtario _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Our Member's Interest's site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Over the years I have carried out quite a bit of research into this family and now believe that John Sutherland was a son of William Sutherland and his wife Janet Campbell of Rogart. Janet was born in January 1773 at Knockarthur, Rogart, daughter of Alexander Campbell of Knockarthur. There is no way now to prove any of the above. The old Parish Register does not include sufficient detail. I have corresponded with descendants in Canada and feel that the above is as close to the truth as is possible now. Having said that I keep looking! Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: L Sutherland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 November 2002 14:42 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SUT] Eight Eight, Correction Hello all, Regarding a reply from Donald Campbell: I should have stated that Colin Campbell Sutherland was the ggrandson Of John Sutherland and Janet Murray who emigrated to Nova Scotia in 1831. We believe John's mother to be a Janet Campbell. Her sister was Katherine Campbell. Katherine's grave is in Earltown, next to her son Duncan Sutherland who also came out in 1831. The Campbell sisters had two brothers, Donald and Duncan Campbell who both came to Nova Scotia with rather large families. Records for Donald indicate he emigrated from Clyne. While Duncan Campbell had children born in Rogart at Dalbain, Tannachy, Inischemy, and Knockarthur. There is some evidence to suggest that John SUtherland and his cousin Duncan originated in or near Dalreavoch. We have a published book on this matter entitled "Donald Campbell, Duncan Campbell and "Coach" Sutherlands: Sutherlandshire to Pictou County" by Joan Bourque Campbell, published in 1987. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Our Member's Interest's site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

In the event of this happening to anyone again please forward the offending email direct to me. I am able to put a bar on all offending mail via Rootsweb. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: L Sutherland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 November 2002 15:02 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SUT] Caution Just a note of caution, I received an email as a forward using one of the regular subscribers names with an invitation to click on a link as a money making scheme. I recommend you avoid opening such forwards as they do not have the regular RE:[SUT] in the subject. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Please visit our NEW POSH web site at www.sutherlandheritage.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

I am sorry - I have this bad habit of thinking everyone knows what our money is called. It is UK Pounds. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Christine Randall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 November 2002 22:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [SUT] ?sterling Hi Christine, What is pounds sterling ..... ? United kingdom pounds? Just checking. ChristineR Vic Australia >annual rate for 2003 was agreed at £10 Sterling. However, in order to give >all our loyal supporters and current members an advantage we also agreed >that members of this list can join for the special price of £7.50 Sterling. >This price is effective for those who pay before the 31st December 2002 via >their local representative. >Your subscription can be made in your local currency. Please use the link >below to convert to your local rate. Please check this on the day you write >your cheque. >http://www.xe.com/ucc/ ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== To check out previous messages http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SCT-SUTHERLAND-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Kia Ora all from "Down Under"...... I would like to make known my special thanks to Christine for her assistance, and also specially to Denise A. Ferne in Sutherland for their generous help in finding info., on the Torbreck Census 1841, on my behalf. Thankyou both. You have set my fears that I was on the wrong track to rest, as well as given me vital confirmaion details on my Grt.Grt. Grand parents and family. Your assistance is very much appreciated . Sincerely, Peter D.McRae (Te Awamutu, New Zealand). [email protected]

Hello again, We visited Sutherland in 1993. Lynn, Sandy, Aimée, and I were the only Sutherlands in Sutherland! Our recollection is that it was named for one of Captain James Cook's crew who died within sight of land. His name was Forbie Sutherland, from the Orkneys I believe. There is a plaque to tell this and information on Captain Cook's having landed. If I am correct, it is claimed that Forbie was the first white person to be interred in Australia. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Just a note of caution, I received an email as a forward using one of the regular subscribers names with an invitation to click on a link as a money making scheme. I recommend you avoid opening such forwards as they do not have the regular RE:[SUT] in the subject. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Christine, What is pounds sterling ..... ? United kingdom pounds? Just checking. ChristineR Vic Australia >annual rate for 2003 was agreed at £10 Sterling. However, in order to give >all our loyal supporters and current members an advantage we also agreed >that members of this list can join for the special price of £7.50 Sterling. >This price is effective for those who pay before the 31st December 2002 via >their local representative. >Your subscription can be made in your local currency. Please use the link >below to convert to your local rate. Please check this on the day you write >your cheque. >http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Hello all, Regarding a reply from Donald Campbell: I should have stated that Colin Campbell Sutherland was the ggrandson Of John Sutherland and Janet Murray who emigrated to Nova Scotia in 1831. We believe John's mother to be a Janet Campbell. Her sister was Katherine Campbell. Katherine's grave is in Earltown, next to her son Duncan Sutherland who also came out in 1831. The Campbell sisters had two brothers, Donald and Duncan Campbell who both came to Nova Scotia with rather large families. Records for Donald indicate he emigrated from Clyne. While Duncan Campbell had children born in Rogart at Dalbain, Tannachy, Inischemy, and Knockarthur. There is some evidence to suggest that John SUtherland and his cousin Duncan originated in or near Dalreavoch. We have a published book on this matter entitled "Donald Campbell, Duncan Campbell and "Coach" Sutherlands: Sutherlandshire to Pictou County" by Joan Bourque Campbell, published in 1987. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hello all, Christine, are you looking for information on the origin of Sutherland, New South Wales? Donald Lee Sutherland, Hamilton, ONtario _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Hi Do we have a member of POSH or at least a friend of POSH who lives in the area of Sutherland, New South Wales? Would love to hear from you if so. Thanks Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

Regarding Visa - this is something we did look into and it will happen in due course. However the cost to POSH of using credit cards is too expensive at this stage. Sorry about this. Hope that trip to the mail box is worthwhile. Christine Northamptonshire, England www.highlandhearts.com www.sutherlandheritage.com -----Original Message----- From: Maggiemc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 November 2002 15:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [SUT] Posh Membership Thanks for the info Christine on our memberships, and I shall happily send my money to Ron. But, as we grow, and we shall - let's get Visa? That way we don't have to write the cheque, get the envelope, stamp, go to the postal box. Just a suggestion that would make life easier - and I am sure increase membership as people do like the easy way. ==== SCT-SUTHERLAND Mailing List ==== Our Member's Interest's site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~suthlist/index.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/2002

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Hello all, Just to inform all that Colin Campbell Sutherland, my uncle died this morning. He was the gg grandson of John Sutherland and Janet Campbell who emigrated in 1831 from Dornoch to Earltown, Nova Scotia. Colin was a fourth generation woodworker. He served with the North Nova Scotia Highlanders in World War Two as a piper. Some of his training was at Edinburgh Castle. In Northern Nova Scotia, Colin was well known for his excellent fiddling with the telltale Scottish flavour. Much of our family history survived thanks to his memory. He had many accomplishments, but perhaps his greatest was the saving of several North Nova’s lives during the closing days of the war. Colin was modest about this heroic event and the story only came to light during the last year. He always told the family he would live to be eighty eight. And he did just that. Donald Lee Sutherland _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

I have just remembered two stories my grandmother told me as a child which I thought would be of interest, altho' my memory may not be perfect. When she lived in Achmelvich as a child, their local 'supermaket' was a sailing ship that periodically came round the coast to trade (barter I recollect) with the locals. The ship came from Stromness I believe. She said they would trade eggs, chickens, fish, etc for 'luxuries' like tea. Are there any records of this that anyone might know about? Can anyone confirm how accurate this tale might be? A second story I recall, was how the landowner's cart would come round at election time to take the men away to vote, and how they were told who to vote for. Again, any comments or corrections will be most welcome. Regards edward Limpsfield, Surrey