Hi Judy, Now that i have had a look on the 1881 Census i except they your John Robson was born in Scotland. In 1881 he was living with his wife and family in Aspatria New Town, Aspatria, Cumberland , England' . John Robson Head Age 82 Ag/Lab Head Married Born Scotland. Jane Robson Wife Age 64 Domestic Servant Born Gilcrux, Cumberland, England. And Children and Grandchildren. James Robson Son Age 32 Coal Miner U/M Born Aspatria, Cumberland, England. John Robson Son Age 26 Coal Miner Born Aspatria, Cumberland, England. William Robson Grandson Age 10 Scholar Born Aspatria, Cumberland, England. Jane Weightman Granddaughter Age 11 Months Born Aspatria, Cumberland, England. Unfortunate as you say you do not know as to the name of John father the only way you are going to find this is to get hold of the Marriage certificate of John/ Jane who married in 1838. As they were married in England the marriage details will only give you John Robson Age, Occupation, where he was living at the time and the name of his father, and the father occupation no mother name on the English certificates. Another thing you can do is to get hold of the birth certificate of the first Andrew Robson, it is always said that the children were born at one of the parents houses this may tell you where John parents were living at the time. You an obtain the Birth and Marriage and Death certificates by going on to www.1837online.com By the way do you know of a Heather DeCarlo is she doing the same Robson as you. John.