Good Evening Would anyone be able to tell me…. If a child was born after the father had died, would he normally be left off the birth certificate. Would a person have too prove he/she was a widow/er before they could re-marry Thank you for any insight anyone may be able to offer. Marion Morpeth --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004

Good evening Marion, In post 1855 certificates the father although deceased is normally given . I have four relatives, all trawlermen, who were drowned prior to a birth and were shown simply as "deceased " . One then has to check death certificate to find date and cause of death. One death date was only found by checking the Poor Law records. These showed his wife asking for funds to feed her child due to her husband's death prior to the childs birth. In pre 1855 OPR births some parishes show "deceased" others give "lawful child of " giving both parents names. It is only possible to check back after finding the father's death.to confirm he was dead before the birth. Regards. John. John D.Stevenson, Edinburgh. johndee.ships@btinternet.com > > If a child was born after the father had died, would he normally be > left > off the birth certificate. > > Would a person have too prove he/she was a widow/er before they could > re-marry

Hello John I have the birth entry, and it doesn't mention the father in the father's details, only after the mothers name giving a name and date of marriage. The birth entry has illegitimate crossed, and a year later the mother is re married, and states widow. Yet I cannot find a death for him on the GRO. >Good evening Marion, In post 1855 certificates the father although deceased is normally given . I have four relatives, all trawlermen, who were drowned prior to a birth and were shown simply as "deceased " . One then has to check death certificate to find date and cause of death. One death date was only found by checking the Poor Law records. These showed his wife asking for funds to feed her child due to her husband's death prior to the childs birth. In pre 1855 OPR births some parishes show "deceased" others give "lawful child of " giving both parents names. It is only possible to check back after finding the father's death.to confirm he was dead before the birth. Regards. John.< --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004

Marion, Just we can brainstorm, do you have an idea what the name of the deceased husband/father was? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Morpeth" <mymorpeth@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [SCT-ROX] 1903 Birth Details/Marriage Details > Hello John > > I have the birth entry, and it doesn't mention the father in the > father's details, only after the mothers name giving a name and date of > marriage. The birth entry has illegitimate crossed, and a year later the > mother is re married, and states widow. Yet I cannot find a death for > him on the GRO. > > > >Good evening Marion, > In post 1855 certificates the father although deceased is normally given > . > I have four relatives, all trawlermen, who were drowned prior to a > birth > and were shown simply as "deceased " . One then has to check death > certificate to find date and cause of death. > One death date was only found by checking the Poor Law records. These > showed > his wife asking for funds to feed her child due to her husband's death > prior > to the childs birth. > In pre 1855 OPR births some parishes show "deceased" others give "lawful > > child of " giving both parents names. It is only possible to check back > after finding the father's death.to confirm he was dead before the > birth. > > Regards. > John.< > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004 > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >