Whilst activity on the list is low, you might like to read how an action for libel was resolved in Melrose 270 years ago. The following are extracts from the Session Minutes for Melrose in 1733. Happy reading Rob Taylor 1st Meeting This day Mr. Gavin Elliot, session clerk, gave in a lybel against Nicol Bowar, portioner of Newtown, the tenor whereof follows, complains Mr Gavin Elliot, schoolmaster and session clerk of Melrose, on Nicol Bowar, portioner of Newtown, that whereas the said Nicol sent yesterday to the complainer a pacquet of letters dated 30 Mar last with a scrape of a letter therein inclosed which the said Nicol alleges reflects on him and averrs was sent by the complainer, which pacquet being directed to the complainer is stufft with the most inhumane, stupid, brutal, nonsensical, foolish, venomous and scurrilous expressions. As that the complainer is void of all virtue and everything that is good, filled with everything that is hatefull and abominable, giddy brained, below an ass, camel, jackmidding, montebank, merry Andrew, &c., and that it is not at all consistent he should serve this Court in the capacity of clerk, which the complainer conceives reflects very much on the session in gen! eral, as well as upon the complainer in particular; and though the substance of this pacquet is competent for the civil magistrate, yet the complainer judges, what so directly levels against the wisdom and prudence of the session in choosing and continuing him as clerk is specially to be reprehended by them; and further, that the drift of such foul opprobrious language is to be adverted to as tending to weaken the authority and credite of a teacher who should form and mould youth to the hopes of succeeding ages. The complainer cannot but take notice of the epethets given him upon the back of one of the said Nicol's letters; such as reverend, wise philosopher, learned Grecian and none such for arithmetick, with an hotch potch of nonsensical ribaldry, more like the product of a distracted brain, that ought to be hissed to Bedlam, or some other place competent for such, than of one who enjoys the conversation of sober and serious persons. Mr. Elliot having consigned 2s. 6d. wa! s removed. Laird Marr chosen clerk pro tempore. Nicol Bowar being cite d was called and compeared and owns the letters whereupon the lybel is founded to be his. The session finds the said lybel proven by the said letters. Mr. Elliot was called in and interrogate if the said scrape sent to him within Nicol's pacquet was his, denyed the same, which the defender offers to prove by witnesses, viz., Wm. Tutup, servant to John Cochran, shoemaker in Newtown, and Wm. Dickson, son to Wm. Dickson, smith in Darnick. The session adjourns this affair till to-morrow eight days. 2nd Meeting This day appointed for enquiring into that affair of Nicol Bowar and Mr. Elliot. The said Mr. Elliot compeared and Nicol being called on, compeared not. An excuse was offered for him, to wit, this his grandmother lying a corpse he could not wait on the session this day. The session sustain this excuse. Mr. Elliot was removed and the session after some thought called Wm. Dickson, who compearing declared that he wrote that letter sent to Nicol Bowar, and that nobody else whatsoever advised him to it or had an hand in it, that he was very sorry he should have delivered the same on the Sabbath day, and that no other is chargeable with the said letter. He was dismissed. The session also dismissed Wm. Tutup as wanting no evidence further than the said William Dickson had made. Mr. Elliot was called in and this intimate to him, and the session appoint Sabbath first as their next meeting, whereunto the said Nicol Bowar is ordered to be cited. 3rd Meeting Nicol Bowar being called, compeared and being informed of William Dickson's declaration, was asked if he was sorry for his offence to Mr. Elliot. Answered he could not say he was, since he believed the letter he received had come from him. After much pains taken by the minister, he said he was sorry, but in such an indifferent, unpleasant way, as was not at all satisfying to the session. He is however dismissed for the time, and the sederunt closed with prayer. 4th Meeting This day the session considering Nicol Bowar's behaviour last day, order him to be cited to the session this day eight days. The sederunt closed with prayer. 5th Meeting Nicol Bowar was this day called, and compeared, and professed his sorrow for giving such an offensive letter to Mr. Elliot, and promised that he should do no such thing in time coming. He was sharply rebuked and dismissed.

hi Roy, You have me stumped then! The definition states that 2 half cousins will only share 1 grandparent (as opposed to full cousins who share 2 grandparents). Is it possible that the half-cousin is the result of an extra-marital relationship - since you said that there were no multiple marriages? Or is it likely that they just stated their relationship incorrectly on the certificate? I am assuming that the informant is a relation that, until now, you were unfamiliar with. Is there any way of tracking down the common ancestor that would possibly make this clearer? Its a good puzzle though :-) Clare Roy G. Perkins wrote: >Hi Clare, > >Would it were so easy but there are no multiple marriages and as I said in >my original note, they share the same surname. > >Regards > >Roy > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Clare Fowler" <clare@juggler.demon.co.uk> >To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:08 PM >Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] RELATIONSHIPS. > > > > >>hi Roy >> >>Apparently... >> >>A half cousin is easy - instead of the cousins sharing two grandparents, >>they only have one in common., due to remarriage, etc. The respective >>children would be half-siblings to each other, their children half-cousins >>and so on. >> >> >> >>I had never heard of one either! Thank you Google!! >> >>Cheers, >> >>Clare >> >> >>Roy G. Perkins wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi All, >>> >>>I've recently received some information about a death in my family some >>>years ago which puzzles me. I don't wish to reveal the name of that >>> >>> >person > > >>>for fear of embarassing the living descendants. However the good offices >>> >>> >of > > >>>John Murray have given me new information and I'm still puzzled. The >>>informant of the death of this poor lady is described as her 'Half >>> >>> >Cousin'; > > >>>what could that mean?? >>>Step-cousin seems unlikely as they share the same surname, my money so >>> >>> >far > > >>>is on 2nd cousin but are there any other ideas? >>> >>>Regards >>> >>>Roy >>> >>> >>> >>>==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >>>ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not >>> >>> >try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > >>>============================== >>>You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from >>>http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >>Stand firm and sure >>For Jethart's here >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > > >==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >The ROXBURGH NAMES list is updated every three months and all members recieve approx two weeks notice of each update. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Clare, Would it were so easy but there are no multiple marriages and as I said in my original note, they share the same surname. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Fowler" <clare@juggler.demon.co.uk> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] RELATIONSHIPS. > hi Roy > > Apparently... > > A half cousin is easy - instead of the cousins sharing two grandparents, > they only have one in common., due to remarriage, etc. The respective > children would be half-siblings to each other, their children half-cousins > and so on. > > > > I had never heard of one either! Thank you Google!! > > Cheers, > > Clare > > > Roy G. Perkins wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > >I've recently received some information about a death in my family some > >years ago which puzzles me. I don't wish to reveal the name of that person > >for fear of embarassing the living descendants. However the good offices of > >John Murray have given me new information and I'm still puzzled. The > >informant of the death of this poor lady is described as her 'Half Cousin'; > >what could that mean?? > >Step-cousin seems unlikely as they share the same surname, my money so far > >is on 2nd cousin but are there any other ideas? > > > >Regards > > > >Roy > > > > > > > >==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > >ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > > >============================== > >You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > >http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > Stand firm and sure > For Jethart's here > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

hi Roy Apparently... A half cousin is easy - instead of the cousins sharing two grandparents, they only have one in common., due to remarriage, etc. The respective children would be half-siblings to each other, their children half-cousins and so on. I had never heard of one either! Thank you Google!! Cheers, Clare Roy G. Perkins wrote: >Hi All, > >I've recently received some information about a death in my family some >years ago which puzzles me. I don't wish to reveal the name of that person >for fear of embarassing the living descendants. However the good offices of >John Murray have given me new information and I'm still puzzled. The >informant of the death of this poor lady is described as her 'Half Cousin'; >what could that mean?? >Step-cousin seems unlikely as they share the same surname, my money so far >is on 2nd cousin but are there any other ideas? > >Regards > >Roy > > > >==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > >============================== >You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from >http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > >

Hi All, I've recently received some information about a death in my family some years ago which puzzles me. I don't wish to reveal the name of that person for fear of embarassing the living descendants. However the good offices of John Murray have given me new information and I'm still puzzled. The informant of the death of this poor lady is described as her 'Half Cousin'; what could that mean?? Step-cousin seems unlikely as they share the same surname, my money so far is on 2nd cousin but are there any other ideas? Regards Roy

Interested in hearing from anyone who has Broomfield's originally from the Ednam/Kelso area. Alex Broomfield, Ontario, Canada.

I too am interested in emigration from the port of Leith. I am told that many families left Bewcastle and area in Cumberland to travel to leith and then to S. Ontario Canada. I am particularly interested in William Telford born about 1809 and married Mary Blaylock in 1832 at KirkAndrews Upon Eske and sailed with family from Leith arriving at Hamilton Ontario about 1858. Don Telford ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN STEVENSON" <johndee.ships@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] Assisted Scottish emigration to NSW 1837-1841 > > > > > > > 'Lady Kennaway' sailed from Leith 19/04/1838, arrived NSW 12/08/1838 > > 'Catherine Jamieson' sailed from Leith 23/6/1838, arrived NSW > > 19/01/1839 'Hero' sailed from Leith 7/5/1839, arrived NSW 26/9/1839 > > 'Charlotte' sailed from Leith 18/8/1839, arrived NSW 19/1/1840 > > 'Isabella Watson' sailed from Leith and arrived NSW 20/9/1840 > > Good morning Philip, > If you give me your email address will pass on what I have re above. > regards. > John. > > John D. Stevenson, > Trinity Research Services, > Scottish Maritime History Research. > Edinburgh. > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you're interested in the Border area have you considered joining our 'sister-list' SCT-BERWICK ? > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Could half cousin refer to a child of a former husband of an aunt. To children of a second husband they would be half siblings, and real cousins would be half cousins.. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy G. Perkins" <roygraham@perkins9617.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] RELATIONSHIPS. > Hi All, > > I've recently received some information about a death in my family some > years ago which puzzles me. I don't wish to reveal the name of that person > for fear of embarassing the living descendants. However the good offices of > John Murray have given me new information and I'm still puzzled. The > informant of the death of this poor lady is described as her 'Half Cousin'; > what could that mean?? > Step-cousin seems unlikely as they share the same surname, my money so far > is on 2nd cousin but are there any other ideas? > > Regards > > Roy > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

I am researching assisted emigration from Scottish ports to NSW between 1837 and 1841 for a university project. In this period both a 'bounty' scheme and a 'government chartered' assistance scheme operated . A number of ships sailed from Leith in this period with emigrants from Roxburgh and other border areas including my ancestor William Smith and his family from Jedburgh on the 'Hero' in May 1839. I am seeking information from any researchers who have details of any of the emigrants on the 5 vessels below or other vessels to NSW from Scottish ports in this period. I am particularly interested in any details on the emigrants' backgrounds in Scotland or their occupations and movements after arrival in NSW to see if there was any difference between the characteristics of the emigrants on the two schemes. I am happy to exchange any details, passenger lists etc with other researchers. 'Lady Kennaway' sailed from Leith 19/04/1838, arrived NSW 12/08/1838 'Catherine Jamieson' sailed from Leith 23/6/1838, arrived NSW 19/01/1839 'Hero' sailed from Leith 7/5/1839, arrived NSW 26/9/1839 'Charlotte' sailed from Leith 18/8/1839, arrived NSW 19/1/1840 'Isabella Watson' sailed from Leith and arrived NSW 20/9/1840 Phillip

> > > 'Lady Kennaway' sailed from Leith 19/04/1838, arrived NSW 12/08/1838 > 'Catherine Jamieson' sailed from Leith 23/6/1838, arrived NSW > 19/01/1839 'Hero' sailed from Leith 7/5/1839, arrived NSW 26/9/1839 > 'Charlotte' sailed from Leith 18/8/1839, arrived NSW 19/1/1840 > 'Isabella Watson' sailed from Leith and arrived NSW 20/9/1840 Good morning Philip, If you give me your email address will pass on what I have re above. regards. John. John D. Stevenson, Trinity Research Services, Scottish Maritime History Research. Edinburgh.

the same map reference I have just given you for Drygrange also shows a boathouse just over the river from Darnick. Sheil could be as in sheiling, a hut. Judy ---------- >From: "Robin Taylor" <robin.taylor2@ntlworld.com> >To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Boatshiell - What or Where is it? >Date: 06, Mon Sep, 2004, 8:36 am > > I wonder if someone can solve this mystery in Melrose. > > What or where is 'Boatsheill' ? > Is it an occupation or a place?, a Google search reveals nothing > > Recorded in Melrose are the following on my MERCER line - > > Melrose - Register of baptisms > 7 October 1678 George Mercer, Boatshiell, a son named James; w. James > Wauch, Andro Mercer. > > Services of Heirs, Roxburghshire. 1636-1847. > General Service of John Mercer, writer in Melross, to his father George > Mercer, Boatsheil, portioner of Darnick > > General Service of George Mercer, Boatshiell, younger of Darnick, to his > granduncle Andrew Mercer, Boatshiell > > Thanks for any help > Rob > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > Roxburghshire: Home of Hermitage Castle and the Liddesdale 'limmers' > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Rob Go to www.nls.uk, choose digital library and then maps. You want the 1770 map of Roxburghshire by Matthew Stobie - top LH section. cheers Judy ---------- >From: "Robin Taylor" <robin.taylor2@ntlworld.com> >To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Drygrange Boathouse, Melrose >Date: 03, Fri Sep, 2004, 7:40 am > > In 1772 Robert MARR & Peggy WILLIAMSON had a daughter Elizabeth born in > Drygrange Boathouse in Melrose. > > Does anyone know of this location or anything about it? > > Many thanks > Rob > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try > Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi there, I have hit a brick wall with Thomas Best HAY my GGG Grandfather. I have a note of his marriage to Ann(a) Murray in Hawick on 17th May 1871. I have details of his death in Glasgow in 1901, but can find no record of his birth. I believe his parents, James Hay and Margaret Best, were also married in Hawick in 1844, and from working out dates from census records, etc., Thomas would have been born around 1846. In fact, I can't find records of any children for James HAY and Margaret BEST. Do any of these names sound familiar to anyone? Many thanks in advance. Clare

I wonder if someone can solve this mystery in Melrose. What or where is 'Boatsheill' ? Is it an occupation or a place?, a Google search reveals nothing Recorded in Melrose are the following on my MERCER line - Melrose - Register of baptisms 7 October 1678 George Mercer, Boatshiell, a son named James; w. James Wauch, Andro Mercer. Services of Heirs, Roxburghshire. 1636-1847. General Service of John Mercer, writer in Melross, to his father George Mercer, Boatsheil, portioner of Darnick General Service of George Mercer, Boatshiell, younger of Darnick, to his granduncle Andrew Mercer, Boatshiell Thanks for any help Rob

Hi List: I am new to the list. I am researching William Elliot born circ 1779 in Hawick who married Margaret Scott and emigrated to Canada. He is my GGGrandfather. I have much information on the family in North America but very little from Scotland. Any info would be greatly appreciated and would gladly exchange what might be of interest to you. Helen

--=======9CB6F46======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4A15225E; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robon If you look on the Web for Drygrange there is quite a selection of sites. I have found some of my Neils lived there at the same time as your folk.. Drygrange is between the viaduct over the Tweed at Leaderfoot and Earlston on the main road through Jedburgh to Edinburgh. The boathouse would have been on the Tweed. You will find out a lot on the web. Marion --=======9CB6F46======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4A15225E Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.749 / Virus Database: 501 - Release Date: 01/09/04 --=======9CB6F46=======--

Have a look at the maps in the online library at www.nls.uk. I think you will find Drygrange a little to the north and east of Melrose. There was an estate there, Mr Tod of Drygrange, altho that might be a little later. The boathouse could be to take wealthy people out on to the Tweed, or simply for local people who were fishing for a living. I dont think there was a ferry at that part of the river and that point in time, could be wrong though. Judy ---------- >From: "Robin Taylor" <robin.taylor2@ntlworld.com> >To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Drygrange Boathouse, Melrose >Date: 03, Fri Sep, 2004, 7:40 am > > In 1772 Robert MARR & Peggy WILLIAMSON had a daughter Elizabeth born in > Drygrange Boathouse in Melrose. > > Does anyone know of this location or anything about it? > > Many thanks > Rob

Hi Rob, Have you checked the Statistical Accounts for Scotland? http://edina.ac.uk/statacc/ You might not find quite what you are looking for, but these accounts, written 1791-1799, and again in 1845, make very interesting reading. The Genuki Roxburghshire Gazetteer mentions Drygrange Boathouse and Drygrange Flybridge. See http://www.vivdunstan.clara.net/genuki/ROX/gazetteer/D.html Nancy McLaughlin Loburn, NZ Westmorland Will Abstracts : http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~enzedders/westmorland/ Kirkby Stephen Parish Registers: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~enzedders My ORTON Archive: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~enzedders """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Taylor" <robin.taylor2@ntlworld.com> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] Drygrange Boathouse, Melrose > In 1772 Robert MARR & Peggy WILLIAMSON had a daughter Elizabeth born in > Drygrange Boathouse in Melrose. > > Does anyone know of this location or anything about it? > > Many thanks > Rob > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not > try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Judy, I have a John Robson born in Newcastleton, ROX in 1799. If he is related, he would have to have been a nephew or great-nephew to Helen. I haven't been able to verify his birth. That's how it's listed on Family Search. I understand a lot of the records from that time have been lost. But you never know what we will find. Keep in touch. Judy Dawe (jld), Saginaw, MI

Rob Sorry I can't help you with your query but do you know much about your MARRs? I have an Andrew Robert MARR m Mary Scott DODS in 1875. Mary was from Berwickshire but the MARRs were from Midlothian. Elaine At 08:40 AM 3/09/2004 +0100, you wrote: >In 1772 Robert MARR & Peggy WILLIAMSON had a daughter Elizabeth born in >Drygrange Boathouse in Melrose. > >Does anyone know of this location or anything about it? > >Many thanks >Rob > > >==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not >try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Elaine www.vprojects.net